From Jenda at operamail.com Thu Jan 3 14:13:47 2002 From: Jenda at operamail.com (Jan Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:49 2004 Subject: APM: Server's down, session's ... up? Radsi cesky .... bude. Snad. Message-ID: <3C3618B7@operamail.com> Omlouvam se ale z duvodu za ktere az tak uplne nemuzu byl prague.pm.org prez svatky dole. Uz sice bezi ale DNSko je jeste spatne nastavene. Snad uz to zitra bude v poradku. Nefungoval mi ani mail, takze nevim jestli jste sem nekdo neco psal. Kazdopadne pokud souhlasite zajdu zitra zamluvit na pondeli do Doby a sejdeme se znovu tam v pondeli v sedm. ---------- I'm sorry but due to some problems not really caused by me the prague.pm.org server as well as my mail was down over the christmas and new years eve. The server is up again, but the IP address has changes so I have to get it changed. Hope it'll be all right tomorow again. I did not get any email since 21st so I don't know if anyone sent anything here, but if you all agree I'll book a table (or two?) in Doba for Monday 7th, 7pm. Sorry, Jenda ------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail has been sent to you courtesy of OperaMail, a free web-based service from Opera Software, makers of the award-winning Web Browser - http://www.operasoftware.com ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From pgl at mini.instinct.org Mon Jan 7 05:23:59 2002 From: pgl at mini.instinct.org (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:49 2004 Subject: APM: so, uhm... Message-ID: <20020107112359.GA73829@mini.instinct.org> ... is anyone else going tonight? is anyone else reading their email? :) - peter. -- This is *probably* not the signature you are looking for. Move along. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From short at ucw.cz Mon Jan 7 06:13:11 2002 From: short at ucw.cz (Jan Kratochvil) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:49 2004 Subject: APM: so, uhm... In-Reply-To: <20020107112359.GA73829@mini.instinct.org> References: <20020107112359.GA73829@mini.instinct.org> Message-ID: <20020107131311.A7239@short.ucw.cz> On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 12:23:59PM +0100, Peter Lowe wrote: > ... is anyone else going tonight? is anyone else reading their email? :) I plan to do so. I hope we won't be both chatting there alone... :-) Lace --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rsta at bach.cz Mon Jan 7 06:46:05 2002 From: rsta at bach.cz (Radomir Starostik) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:49 2004 Subject: APM: so, uhm... In-Reply-To: <20020107112359.GA73829@mini.instinct.org> References: <20020107112359.GA73829@mini.instinct.org> Message-ID: <5614341131.20020107134605@bach.cz> > ... is anyone else going tonight? is anyone else reading their email? :) > - peter. I hope I'll come, but it depends on the trains from Olomouc :-) Radek Staroštík --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From fatvamp at hj-computers.de Mon Jan 7 07:44:57 2002 From: fatvamp at hj-computers.de (Your Friend) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:49 2004 Subject: APM: so, uhm... In-Reply-To: <20020107112359.GA73829@mini.instinct.org>; from pgl@mini.instinct.org on Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 12:23:59PM +0100 References: <20020107112359.GA73829@mini.instinct.org> Message-ID: <20020107144457.A26089@hj-computers.de> On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 12:23:59PM +0100, Peter Lowe wrote: > ... is anyone else going tonight? is anyone else reading their email? :) I plan to do so, but got to bed at 2am and woke up at 6am, so probably you?ll have to carry me upstairs after the event. :-} Ciao Rico --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rsta at bach.cz Tue Jan 8 02:18:25 2002 From: rsta at bach.cz (Radomir Starostik) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:49 2004 Subject: APM: deutschland Message-ID: <481865552.20020108091825@bach.cz> Ahoj, adresa na ten workshop v n?mecku je http://www.perlworkshop.de/2002/ Radek Staro?t?k --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From fatvamp at hj-computers.de Tue Jan 8 08:51:47 2002 From: fatvamp at hj-computers.de (Your Friend) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:49 2004 Subject: APM: deutschland In-Reply-To: <481865552.20020108091825@bach.cz>; from rsta@bach.cz on Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 09:18:25AM +0100 References: <481865552.20020108091825@bach.cz> Message-ID: <20020108155147.A6007@hj-computers.de> On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 09:18:25AM +0100, Radomir Starostik wrote: > Ahoj, > adresa na ten workshop v n?mecku je > http://www.perlworkshop.de/2002/ Mozna bych tam i jel. Svym autem, ale asi ne sam, pokud by se teda nasli zajemci a slozili by sme na benzin (zere mi to hodne), tak bych si to nejak zaridil. Ciao Richard --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rsta at bach.cz Tue Jan 8 09:06:53 2002 From: rsta at bach.cz (Radomir Starostik) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:49 2004 Subject: APM: deutschland In-Reply-To: <20020108155147.A6007@hj-computers.de> References: <481865552.20020108091825@bach.cz> <20020108155147.A6007@hj-computers.de> Message-ID: <10126373513.20020108160653@bach.cz> >> Ahoj, >> adresa na ten workshop v n?mecku je >> http://www.perlworkshop.de/2002/ > Mozna bych tam i jel. Svym autem, ale asi ne sam, pokud by se teda > nasli zajemci a slozili by sme na benzin (zere mi to hodne), tak bych > si to nejak zaridil. Ja bych to bral, kdybychom jeli jen dva na kolik by to asi prislo ? Pokud bychom se domluvili, musime zavcas objednat ubytovani. Radek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From fatvamp at hj-computers.de Tue Jan 8 12:19:02 2002 From: fatvamp at hj-computers.de (Your Friend) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:49 2004 Subject: APM: deutschland In-Reply-To: <10126373513.20020108160653@bach.cz>; from rsta@bach.cz on Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:06:53PM +0100 References: <481865552.20020108091825@bach.cz> <20020108155147.A6007@hj-computers.de> <10126373513.20020108160653@bach.cz> Message-ID: <20020108191902.A6974@hj-computers.de> On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:06:53PM +0100, Radomir Starostik wrote: > > Mozna bych tam i jel. Svym autem, ale asi ne sam, pokud by se teda > > nasli zajemci a slozili by sme na benzin (zere mi to hodne), tak bych > > si to nejak zaridil. > > Ja bych to bral, kdybychom jeli jen dva na kolik by to asi prislo ? > Pokud bychom se domluvili, musime zavcas objednat ubytovani. Hruby odhad: 4500,- Kc na benzin. 50% a opotrebovani auta bych nesl ja. :-) mohli by sme jet az 4, a cesta by trvala tak 7 hodin. Rad bych uz vyrazil v utery. Ciao Richard --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rsta at bach.cz Wed Jan 9 01:58:56 2002 From: rsta at bach.cz (Radomir Starostik) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:49 2004 Subject: APM: deutschland In-Reply-To: <20020108191902.A6974@hj-computers.de> References: <481865552.20020108091825@bach.cz> <20020108155147.A6007@hj-computers.de> <10126373513.20020108160653@bach.cz> <20020108191902.A6974@hj-computers.de> Message-ID: <89737941.20020109085856@bach.cz> >> > Mozna bych tam i jel. Svym autem, ale asi ne sam, pokud by se teda >> > nasli zajemci a slozili by sme na benzin (zere mi to hodne), tak bych >> > si to nejak zaridil. >> >> Ja bych to bral, kdybychom jeli jen dva na kolik by to asi prislo ? >> Pokud bychom se domluvili, musime zavcas objednat ubytovani. > Hruby odhad: 4500,- Kc na benzin. > 50% a opotrebovani auta bych nesl ja. :-) > mohli by sme jet az 4, a cesta by trvala tak 7 hodin. Rad bych uz > vyrazil v utery. Ja se teda prihlasim. Snazim se rezervovat ubytovani. Na prvni mail mi odpovedeli, ze jsou jeste volna mista, dalsi mail ohledne podrobnosti zustava zatim bez odpovedi. Radek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Tue Feb 12 07:36:42 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:49 2004 Subject: APM: Re: BOUNCE prague-pm@pm.org: Non-member submission from [Richard Jelinek ] In-Reply-To: <200202112052.g1BKqN913015@mail.pm.org> Message-ID: <3C69287A.17684.294B0B1C@localhost> > Ahoj, > > nema nekdo nahodou tel. Kontakt nebo adresu na Radka? > Zitra mame jet na ten Perl-Workshop a nemuzu se s nim spojit. > > -- > best regards, > > Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek Ja ne. Nevim, jestli ti prislo varovani, ze byl ten mail bloknutej ale vypada to, ze ne. Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain. I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Mon Feb 25 07:34:16 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:49 2004 Subject: APM: Meeting today Message-ID: <20020225143416.A15440@hj-computers.de> Hi. (fresh from my new account @ our pm.org ML) Who is going to the meeting today? I'd like not to be alone there. :-) -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1658523 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From short at ucw.cz Mon Feb 25 07:50:16 2002 From: short at ucw.cz (Jan Kratochvil) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:50 2004 Subject: APM: Meeting today In-Reply-To: <20020225143416.A15440@hj-computers.de> References: <20020225143416.A15440@hj-computers.de> Message-ID: <20020225145016.A23797@short.ucw.cz> Hi, On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 02:34:16PM +0100, Richard Jelinek wrote: ... > Who is going to the meeting today? I'd like not to be alone there. :-) AFAIK it was always first workday Monday in the month but the current Monday really isn't the first one in this month. Maybe you should get a vacation - - even the animal knows when it is completely worn down. :-) I was missing on the last meeting so the meeting policy may have changed but at least it really isn't yet updated on the web. Lace --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Mon Feb 25 08:01:15 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:50 2004 Subject: APM: Meeting today In-Reply-To: <20020225145016.A23797@short.ucw.cz>; from short@ucw.cz on Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 02:50:16PM +0100 References: <20020225143416.A15440@hj-computers.de> <20020225145016.A23797@short.ucw.cz> Message-ID: <20020225150115.C15440@hj-computers.de> On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 02:50:16PM +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 02:34:16PM +0100, Richard Jelinek wrote: > ... > > Who is going to the meeting today? I'd like not to be alone there. :-) > > AFAIK it was always first workday Monday in the month but the current Monday > really isn't the first one in this month. Maybe you should get a vacation - > - even the animal knows when it is completely worn down. :-) Oh shit. :-) You're right. Well and you're completedly right about the worn out thing. I just managed to get a s.r.o. within one week and now need to get furniture, computers, rooms, cat5-cabel installation within one week also. Furthermor I'm writing on my PhD exposee and need to have this finished within one week also. So I guess I'm a little bit worn out... But while I'm at it. Did Radek already write something about the Perl Workshop we attended? If not I could give a brief summary here. -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1658523 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Tue Feb 26 17:37:54 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:50 2004 Subject: APM: Perl Workshop 4.0 Summary Message-ID: <20020227003754.A30346@hj-computers.de> Hi, let me give you a short summary of the Perl Workshop 4.0 that took place in St. Augustin near Bonn from 13.2. to 15.2. this year. Radek pointed me to this event and while he seemed from the beginning very interested to attend it, I was in a "why not"-mood. We finally managed in the last moment to synchronize us to get to this event and departed 12.2. to St. Augustin. It took us about 9 hours to get to St. Augustin from Prague. Later in the evening there was a first informal meeting in our hotel where we met the first perl hackers. It quickly turned out, that most of them really use Perl for what - well - most of Perl hackers use it for: small Q&D programs, system administration, web-programming. I was surprised to see there mainly "End-Users" i.e. programmers and no project managers. I was a little bit dissapointed, that there were no developers that were working on large-scale projects in Perl. I would like to give now my subjective impression about the tutorials I've attended. (For comparation have a look at http://www.perlworkshop.de/2002/times.epl): Codegenerierung with perl (in German) - Michael Rachow is a very sympathic, calm and handsome :-) man that tried to talk about codegeneration with perl. In my opinion, it was very low-tech what he talked about. Basically he showed some of the Macro-Features you can run on text datasets with Jeeves (the one from advanced perl programming) - The auditorium quickly agreed on the fact, that Jeeves is just a nice technology demo, but that there are far better tools to accomplish this task. (e.g. Swig) Extreme Perl (in English) - Ok. This was my first time when I heard (and saw) Damian Conway talking, thinking and perling. Man this guy is exceptional. With "Extreme Perl" Damian wanted to show some of Perls possibilities that are very powerful, he also wanted to win a obfuscation contest. What was this talk about? It was about a program called SelfGOL. If you think, you are a perl guru and understand this language, have a look at this: http://www.f0.am/cgi-bin/view/Libarynth/SelfGOL - The 90 minutes he explained this program seemed like 20 minutes to me and I was pretty paralyzed after this talk. mod_perl 2.0 (in german) - Gerald Richter is said to be one of the best programmers in the Perl Community. That may be (haven't verified), but he is not a very talented speaker. And probably I'm not *that* interested in mod_perl, so the whole talk was more like a slideshow of the new features of this module and a overview of what will come soon/next. pVoice (in english) - Jouke Visser has a handicapped daughter and wrote a set of programs, that help her to communicate with the help of special input devices (head and feet-driven) that are attached to a notebook (on which perl is running the pvoice application). http://www.pvoice.org/ P5EE - Perl 5 Enterprise Environment (in German) - Gerald talked about the need to have some equivalent thing to J2EE and presented the P5EE project. While there is no doubt, that such a project would greatly improve acceptance of perl in the enterprise environment, one has to say, that this project is nowhere near a enterprise-capable state. If there will not be a bunch of companies taking P5EE development in their hands (and products) I predict, that this project won't see much success. Programming Latin (in English) - Damian again. Basically he showed very extensively, most of the time amusing, but in its full width also sometimes tiredning the Lingua::Latina::Perligata module. In short: How to program in Latin. The most interesting technology behind this is the Filter-Module of perl as well as a stack-based parser Damian needed to get the parsing of the position independent gramar of Perligata done. ---> In the evening many attendees met in Castle Birlinghoven, where they had some dinner in decent atmosphere. The dinner was sponsored by O'Reilly. One impression I got from the first day was, that Perl is - I thank for this insight to Damian - much more powerfull than I ever thought it is. The other impression is, that many of the perl developers as well as the organizators see perl to be descending in popularity loosing much to Java - because "the dumb managers want to be it that way". Well - we'll see what the future brings. So that was the first day. If you are interested to get a short overview about the other days let me know and I'll summarize them also. -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1658523 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rsta at bach.cz Wed Feb 27 03:19:39 2002 From: rsta at bach.cz (Radomir Starostik) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:50 2004 Subject: APM: Perl Workshop 4.0 Summary In-Reply-To: <20020227003754.A30346@hj-computers.de> References: <20020227003754.A30346@hj-computers.de> Message-ID: <1687934469.20020227101939@bach.cz> Hi, thank you Richard for your summary. I'm sorry that I can't help you much, even I was there with you. The main reason isn't my laziness but my over-simplified English. We've talk about the article that shows the example of the enterprise usage of Perl. If you want look at this: http://perl.com/pub/a/2001/10/17/etoys.html. Radek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Tue Mar 5 09:34:22 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:50 2004 Subject: APM: Monday forgotten :-( Message-ID: <20020305163422.A19441@hj-computers.de> Hi, who was at the Prague PM meeting and what was talked about? After being one week too early with my internal watch, yesterday I *completedly* forgot it. The main reason is, that I founded a new company called PetaMem (yeah - see sig.) and yesterday we had our first "official working day". Well - the network was being installed and so on, so I rembered PM when I woke up today... I think the good news with all this is, that PetaMem is building sophisticated AI systems - and guess what language is being used for that? :-) Currently we're building up a CPAN-mirror (though not official only for internal use) and the most complete perlbooks library. Either in our Intranet or in printed form. The plan is, that I will hold a speech at YAPC::Munich about our workings. -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1658523 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rv at petamem.com Mon Apr 8 06:37:41 2002 From: rv at petamem.com (Roman Vasicek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:50 2004 Subject: APM: sraz Message-ID: Nazdarek lidicky, bude dnes sraz? Jsem zde novy a jelikoz v konferenci neni zrovna moc velky provoz, tak bych si to rad overil. Diky Roman Vasicek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Mon Apr 8 07:04:38 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:50 2004 Subject: APM: Sraz dnes Message-ID: <20020408140438.B12036@petamem.com> Ja bych taky prisel... :-) -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1658523 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Mon Apr 8 07:35:48 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:50 2004 Subject: APM: Dnesni sraz Message-ID: <3CB1AAC4.14674.922EB6F@localhost> No je pravda, ze nam to malinko usnulo. Nejak jsem nemel cas ani chut nekam chodit. Ale mohli bysme dneska zajit. Mam objednat stul v Dobe, nebo se sejdem nekde jinde? Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Mon Apr 8 07:34:26 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:50 2004 Subject: APM: Dnesni sraz In-Reply-To: <3CB1AAC4.14674.922EB6F@localhost> References: <3CB1AAC4.14674.922EB6F@localhost> Message-ID: <20020408143426.C12036@petamem.com> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 02:35:48PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > No je pravda, ze nam to malinko usnulo. Nejak jsem nemel cas ani > chut nekam chodit. > > Ale mohli bysme dneska zajit. > > Mam objednat stul v Dobe, nebo se sejdem nekde jinde? Mohli by sme take v kouzelne fletne. Tam snad ani nebude nutne objednavat stul a myslim, ze ambiente tam je podstatne lepsi. -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1658523 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From short at ucw.cz Mon Apr 8 07:40:40 2002 From: short at ucw.cz (Jan Kratochvil) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:50 2004 Subject: APM: sraz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020408124040.GA13211@short.ucw.cz> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 01:37:41PM +0200, Roman Vasicek wrote: > Nazdarek lidicky, > bude dnes sraz? Jsem zde novy a jelikoz v konferenci neni zrovna moc > velky provoz, tak bych si to rad overil. Ucast: No take bych se stavil. Lace --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Mon Apr 8 07:42:32 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:51 2004 Subject: APM: Dnesni sraz In-Reply-To: <20020408143426.C12036@petamem.com> References: <3CB1AAC4.14674.922EB6F@localhost> Message-ID: <3CB1AC58.30720.929145A@localhost> From: Richard Jelinek > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 02:35:48PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > > No je pravda, ze nam to malinko usnulo. Nejak jsem nemel cas ani > > chut nekam chodit. > > > > Ale mohli bysme dneska zajit. > > > > Mam objednat stul v Dobe, nebo se sejdem nekde jinde? > > Mohli by sme take v kouzelne fletne. Tam snad ani nebude nutne > objednavat stul a myslim, ze ambiente tam je podstatne lepsi. No zaplat panbu ze nekdo prisel s nejakym navrhem :-) Fajn. Kde presne to je? Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rv at petamem.com Mon Apr 8 07:51:39 2002 From: rv at petamem.com (Roman Vasicek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:51 2004 Subject: APM: Dnesni sraz In-Reply-To: <20020408143426.C12036@petamem.com> Message-ID: > Mohli by sme take v kouzelne fletne. Tam snad ani nebude nutne OK. Kde to je? Diky Roman Vasicek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Mon Apr 8 07:53:22 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:51 2004 Subject: APM: Dnesni sraz In-Reply-To: <3CB1AC58.30720.929145A@localhost> References: <3CB1AAC4.14674.922EB6F@localhost> <3CB1AC58.30720.929145A@localhost> Message-ID: <20020408145322.D12036@petamem.com> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 02:42:32PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > From: Richard Jelinek > > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 02:35:48PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > > > No je pravda, ze nam to malinko usnulo. Nejak jsem nemel cas ani > > > chut nekam chodit. > > > > > > Ale mohli bysme dneska zajit. > > > > > > Mam objednat stul v Dobe, nebo se sejdem nekde jinde? > > > > Mohli by sme take v kouzelne fletne. Tam snad ani nebude nutne > > objednavat stul a myslim, ze ambiente tam je podstatne lepsi. > > No zaplat panbu ze nekdo prisel s nejakym navrhem :-) > > Fajn. Kde presne to je? Nad Kelerkou 33. Ted se mne ale moc neptejte jak se tam dostat MHD, protoze to moc nevim. Metram: Na vysocanskou a pak autobusem 127,136,145,158,159,166,177,183,185,195,209,259,278,280,302,305,351,354 Nebo primo autobusem 233,258,103,187,274 YMMV Dnes 19:00? -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1658523 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Smejkal_Petr at tesco-europe.com Mon Apr 8 08:22:42 2002 From: Smejkal_Petr at tesco-europe.com (Smejkal Petr) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:51 2004 Subject: APM: Dnesni sraz Message-ID: Dobre zvolena lokace, rad se pridam. -- Petr Smejkal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Mon May 6 11:34:13 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:51 2004 Subject: APM: No meeting today? Message-ID: <20020506183413.A24888@petamem.com> What a shame... -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1658523 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From short at ucw.cz Mon May 6 12:09:18 2002 From: short at ucw.cz (Jan Kratochvil) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:51 2004 Subject: APM: No meeting today? In-Reply-To: <20020506183413.A24888@petamem.com> References: <20020506183413.A24888@petamem.com> Message-ID: <20020506170918.GA29420@short.ucw.cz> On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:34:13PM +0200, Richard Jelinek wrote: > > What a shame... No hodlal jsem tam ted jit, zadne maily kolem dnesniho eventu nebyly, tak jsem predpokladal, ze se proste kona standardne (no dle minule v "Kouzelne fletne", myslim, ze jsme se tam nejak usnesli, ze by to tam melo byt i priste - nebo to jsem si domyslel?). No zkusim tam nejak vyrazit, kdyz nikdo neprijde, tak se aspon jednou po case zase najim. :-) Lace --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Wed May 8 13:29:13 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:51 2004 Subject: APM: No meeting today? In-Reply-To: <20020506170918.GA29420@short.ucw.cz> References: <20020506183413.A24888@petamem.com> Message-ID: <3CD98A99.7088.1618532C@localhost> From: Jan Kratochvil > On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:34:13PM +0200, Richard Jelinek wrote: > > > > What a shame... > > No hodlal jsem tam ted jit, zadne maily kolem dnesniho eventu nebyly, > tak jsem predpokladal, ze se proste kona standardne (no dle minule v > "Kouzelne fletne", myslim, ze jsme se tam nejak usnesli, ze by to tam > melo byt i priste - nebo to jsem si domyslel?). > > No zkusim tam nejak vyrazit, kdyz nikdo neprijde, tak se aspon jednou > po case zase najim. :-) Sorry ale od soboty 27 jsem se valel v posteli s anginou. Mozna priste. Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Thu May 9 01:24:58 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:51 2004 Subject: APM: No meeting today? In-Reply-To: <3CD98A99.7088.1618532C@localhost> References: <20020506183413.A24888@petamem.com> <3CD98A99.7088.1618532C@localhost> Message-ID: <20020509082458.A19672@petamem.com> On Wed, May 08, 2002 at 08:29:13PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > Sorry ale od soboty 27 jsem se valel v posteli s anginou. > Mozna priste. Tak tu svoji Angie od nas pozdravuj. A rekni ji at si priste sve pudy s Tebou uzije az po PM setkani. ;-) -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1658523 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Sun Jun 2 16:51:58 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Ponedelnik ... Message-ID: <3CFAAF9E.16086.BCF6CA8@localhost> Omlouvam se ale kleknul mi server a byl jsem parcialne offline. Je 3.6 (zitra, za deset minut to bude dneska) Prague.pm? Kde se sejdeme? Zase tam kdesi v kopcich u Vysocansky? Nebo nekde bliz? Co takhle mexicka restaurace Chillis! ve Vladislavsky? (100m od Metra Narodni trida o malo dal od Mustku, ovsem blbe se tu parkuje ;-) Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From short at ucw.cz Sun Jun 2 17:32:48 2002 From: short at ucw.cz (Jan Kratochvil) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Ponedelnik ... In-Reply-To: <3CFAAF9E.16086.BCF6CA8@localhost> References: <3CFAAF9E.16086.BCF6CA8@localhost> Message-ID: <20020602223248.GB6525@short.ucw.cz> Hi, On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 11:51:58PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: ... > Je 3.6 (zitra, za deset minut to bude dneska) Prague.pm? > Kde se sejdeme? Zase tam kdesi v kopcich u Vysocansky? Nebo > nekde bliz? Co takhle mexicka restaurace Chillis! ve Vladislavsky? No treba jo, proc ne. Jeden maly, bezvyznamny souhlas, alespon v te znalosti hospod by se clovek mel vzdelavat. > (100m od Metra Narodni trida o malo dal od Mustku, ovsem blbe se > tu parkuje ;-) No v 19:00 tam ty mastne fleky jeste zdarma nejsou, ze? :-( Lace --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Mon Jun 3 04:16:20 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Ponedelnik ... In-Reply-To: <3CFAAF9E.16086.BCF6CA8@localhost> References: <3CFAAF9E.16086.BCF6CA8@localhost> Message-ID: <20020603111620.A2271@petamem.com> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 11:51:58PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > Omlouvam se ale kleknul mi server a byl jsem parcialne offline. > > Je 3.6 (zitra, za deset minut to bude dneska) Prague.pm? > Kde se sejdeme? Zase tam kdesi v kopcich u Vysocansky? Nebo > nekde bliz? Co takhle mexicka restaurace Chillis! ve Vladislavsky? > (100m od Metra Narodni trida o malo dal od Mustku, ovsem blbe se > tu parkuje ;-) Jsem rad ochoten obetovat parkovaci moznost ve prospech PraguePM a prijedu valnou hromadnou dopravou. Ale uprimne receno mexicke jidlo silne nenavidim. Nelze neco jineho? Treba Afganske nebo tak. Mohli by sme take do "Pravdy" v Parizske ul. ;-) -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1941304 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From kyncl at pcv.cz Mon Jun 3 04:27:24 2002 From: kyncl at pcv.cz (Jan Kyncl) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Ponedelnik ... References: <3CFAAF9E.16086.BCF6CA8@localhost> <20020603111620.A2271@petamem.com> Message-ID: <005401c20ae0$deeb2660$6400a8c0@volny> Vyborna Afghanska restaurace je Restaurant Kabul Karolina v ulici Karoliny Svetle, je to kousek od Narodni. Je tam nadherna zahradka, proste pro debaty na perlem uplne sqele. S pozdravem / best regards Jan Kyncl Director Prvni ceska virtualni Ltd. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Jelinek To: Jenda Krynicky Cc: Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:16 AM Subject: Re: APM: Ponedelnik ... > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 11:51:58PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > > Omlouvam se ale kleknul mi server a byl jsem parcialne offline. > > > > Je 3.6 (zitra, za deset minut to bude dneska) Prague.pm? > > Kde se sejdeme? Zase tam kdesi v kopcich u Vysocansky? Nebo > > nekde bliz? Co takhle mexicka restaurace Chillis! ve Vladislavsky? > > (100m od Metra Narodni trida o malo dal od Mustku, ovsem blbe se > > tu parkuje ;-) > > Jsem rad ochoten obetovat parkovaci moznost ve prospech PraguePM a > prijedu valnou hromadnou dopravou. Ale uprimne receno mexicke jidlo > silne nenavidim. Nelze neco jineho? Treba Afganske nebo tak. > > Mohli by sme take do "Pravdy" v Parizske ul. ;-) > > -- > best regards, > > Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek > > - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - > -= 1941304 Mind Units =- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org > with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Mon Jun 3 05:51:52 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Ponedelnik ... In-Reply-To: <005401c20ae0$deeb2660$6400a8c0@volny> Message-ID: <3CFB6668.31554.E996BC2@localhost> > Vyborna Afghanska restaurace je Restaurant Kabul Karolina v ulici > Karoliny Svetle, je to kousek od Narodni. Je tam nadherna zahradka, > proste pro debaty na perlem uplne sqele. > > S pozdravem / best regards > > Jan Kyncl Ja bych byl pro. Do Chillis! chodim stejne nejak moc casto. :-) Jenda P.S.: Abych uklidnil Richarda, v Chillis! vari i normalni cesky jidla. =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From kyncl at pcv.cz Mon Jun 3 06:18:19 2002 From: kyncl at pcv.cz (Jan Kyncl) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Ponedelnik ... References: <3CFB6668.31554.E996BC2@localhost> Message-ID: <003401c20af0$5d787780$6400a8c0@volny> Hm, tak to dneska asi nestiham pritelkyne koupila divadlo. Jinak tady jsou stranky ty hospody: http://www.sweb.cz/hasib/ Majitel je opravdovej nefalsovanej Afganec. Jinak nekdy v lete bych rad zorganizoval workshop-konferenci s Embperlem (autor.Gerald Richter) takze pokud nekdo budete mit zajem tak mi dejte vedet, workshop bude za pritomnosti autora G.Richtera. S pozdravem / best regards Jan Kyncl > > Vyborna Afghanska restaurace je Restaurant Kabul Karolina v ulici > > Karoliny Svetle, je to kousek od Narodni. Je tam nadherna zahradka, > > proste pro debaty na perlem uplne sqele. > > prague-pm" in the message body. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Mon Jun 3 09:54:35 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Tak nic ... Message-ID: <3CFB9F4B.30209.312374@localhost> Tak to vypada, ze se nakonec zase nezucastnim. A misto toho se pudu domu potit. Nejak mi neni dobre. Snad priste, Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Mon Jun 3 10:29:42 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Tak nic ... In-Reply-To: <3CFB9F4B.30209.312374@localhost> References: <3CFB9F4B.30209.312374@localhost> Message-ID: <20020603172942.D2431@petamem.com> On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 04:54:35PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > Tak to vypada, ze se nakonec zase nezucastnim. A misto toho se > pudu domu potit. Nejak mi neni dobre. Ja dnes take odrikam. Je mi moc vedro a taky sem moc nespal, takze si pujdu hodit slofika. -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1941304 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Tue Jun 25 08:43:17 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: (Fwd) Czech localization of Apache::MP3 Message-ID: <3D188F95.4600.17790BF7@localhost> Nema na to nekdo cas a chut? Jenda ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date sent: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 19:10:03 -0600 To: Jenda@Krynicky.cz From: "Sean M. Burke" Subject: Czech localization of Apache::MP3 I'm writing to you because you're listed at http://www.pm.org/groups.shtml as a contact address for a Perl Mongers group in the Czech Republic. I'm curious whether you (and/or someone you know) might be interested in contributing a Czech localization to the Open Source project that I describe below. I'd be delighted to have a Czech contribution! Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 13:57:35 -0600 To: perl-i18n@perl.org From: "Sean M. Burke" Subject: Apache::MP3 localization Bcc: sburke@spinn.net So I decided a good thing to do would be to internationalize Apache::MP3 using Locale::Maketext. With the help of some patient native-speakers of French, I made a sample localization into French. Here's the lexicon file: http://members.spinn.net/~sburke/a3shots/fr.pm Now, what would really make it wonderful is if people would submit translations for their own languages; then we'll have a demonstration application of localization in Perl. And besides, everyone likes mp3s! The way you can provide me with a translation is by downloading the above "fr.pm" file, replacing all the French bits with bits in your own language, and emailing it to me. If the data isn't in Latin-1, tell me what its encoding name is. So you can see where the phrases end up, these are screenshots of two screens produced from the above French lexicon: http://members.spinn.net/~sburke/a3shots/a3_dir.html http://members.spinn.net/~sburke/a3shots/a3_help.html Feel free to email me any questions about the meaning of things. If you can read French, one thing you might notice is that I've translated "stream" as the word meaning simply "play". That might be a good idea for your language too. Once I get a few translations, I'll maybe add more comments to the fr.pm file and then ask various Perl Mongers groups to provide translations of what still needs translating. -- Sean M. Burke http://www.spinn.net/~sburke/ ------- End of forwarded message ------- =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rsta at bach.cz Thu Jun 27 00:31:58 2002 From: rsta at bach.cz (Radomir Starostik) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Pondeli Message-ID: <0541593.20020627073158@bach.cz> Ahoj, planuje se na pondeli schuzka. Pokud ano, kde to bude ? Diky Radek Starostik --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From short at ucw.cz Thu Jun 27 16:17:56 2002 From: short at ucw.cz (Jan Kratochvil) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Pondeli In-Reply-To: <0541593.20020627073158@bach.cz> References: <0541593.20020627073158@bach.cz> Message-ID: <20020627211756.GA9589@short.ucw.cz> Hi, On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 07:31:58AM +0200, Radomir Starostik wrote: ... > planuje se na pondeli schuzka. Pokud ano, kde to bude ? No zatim to nikdo nezrusil, tak asi ano. Posledne se to dohadovalo do http://www.sweb.cz/hasib/ , tak by se to tedy mohlo zkusit, je to "Restaurant Kabul Karolina v ulici Karoliny Svetle, je to kousek od Narodni". (navrh to byl od Jana Kyncla , abych mu nebral copyright) Lace --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Thu Jun 27 16:39:45 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Pondeli In-Reply-To: <0541593.20020627073158@bach.cz> References: <0541593.20020627073158@bach.cz> Message-ID: <20020627233945.A22556@petamem.com> On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 07:31:58AM +0200, Radomir Starostik wrote: > Ahoj, > planuje se na pondeli schuzka. Pokud ano, kde to bude ? Ja v ten den budu v norimberku. Skoda - dlouho sme se nevideli. Samozrejme by sme to take mohli posunout o tyden - snad by nas nikdo neumlatil. Ale opravdu nechci tvorit nejake vyjimky... -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1941304 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rsta at bach.cz Fri Jun 28 01:44:06 2002 From: rsta at bach.cz (Radomir Starostik) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Pondeli In-Reply-To: <20020627233945.A22556@petamem.com> References: <0541593.20020627073158@bach.cz> <20020627233945.A22556@petamem.com> Message-ID: <34573436.20020628084406@bach.cz> >> planuje se na pondeli schuzka. Pokud ano, kde to bude ? > Ja v ten den budu v norimberku. Skoda - dlouho sme se nevideli. > Samozrejme by sme to take mohli posunout o tyden - snad by nas nikdo > neumlatil. Ale opravdu nechci tvorit nejake vyjimky... Ahoj, mne by to posunuti nevadilo. A co ostatni ? Radek Starostik --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From short at ucw.cz Fri Jun 28 01:57:29 2002 From: short at ucw.cz (Jan Kratochvil) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Pondeli In-Reply-To: <34573436.20020628084406@bach.cz> References: <0541593.20020627073158@bach.cz> <20020627233945.A22556@petamem.com> <34573436.20020628084406@bach.cz> Message-ID: <20020628065728.GA13066@short.ucw.cz> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 08:44:06AM +0200, Radomir Starostik wrote: ... > > Samozrejme by sme to take mohli posunout o tyden - snad by nas nikdo > > neumlatil. Ale opravdu nechci tvorit nejake vyjimky... ... > mne by to posunuti nevadilo. A co ostatni ? push @nevadilo,$0; Lace --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Fri Jun 28 02:07:32 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Pondeli In-Reply-To: <20020628065728.GA13066@short.ucw.cz> References: <0541593.20020627073158@bach.cz> <20020627233945.A22556@petamem.com> <34573436.20020628084406@bach.cz> <20020628065728.GA13066@short.ucw.cz> Message-ID: <20020628090732.A8647@petamem.com> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 08:57:29AM +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 08:44:06AM +0200, Radomir Starostik wrote: > ... > > > Samozrejme by sme to take mohli posunout o tyden - snad by nas nikdo > > > neumlatil. Ale opravdu nechci tvorit nejake vyjimky... > ... > > mne by to posunuti nevadilo. A co ostatni ? > > push @nevadilo,$0; A mohl bych psychicky pripravit a fyzicky donutit jeste dalsi perlare z PetaMem se zucastnit. (Voni jinak po te kratke pondelni pracovni dobe uz nechteji moc podnikat :-)) -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1941304 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From pavel at toplist.cz Sun Jun 30 04:39:52 2002 From: pavel at toplist.cz (=?us-ascii?Q?Pavel_Francirek?=) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Pondeli In-Reply-To: <20020628065728.GA13066@short.ucw.cz> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 08:44:06AM +0200, Radomir Starostik wrote: ... > > Samozrejme by sme to take mohli posunout o tyden - snad by nas nikdo > > neumlatil. Ale opravdu nechci tvorit nejake vyjimky... ... > mne by to posunuti nevadilo. A co ostatni ? Me a asi i Bizimu je to taky vicemene jedno jestli pristi nebo az dalsi tyden. Pavel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Mon Jul 1 03:41:39 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:52 2004 Subject: APM: Pondeli In-Reply-To: References: <20020628065728.GA13066@short.ucw.cz> Message-ID: <3D2031E3.18525.354AD639@localhost> From: Pavel Francirek > On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 08:44:06AM +0200, Radomir Starostik wrote: ... > > > Samozrejme by sme to take mohli posunout o tyden - snad by nas > nikdo > > neumlatil. Ale opravdu nechci tvorit nejake vyjimky... ... > > mne by to posunuti nevadilo. A co ostatni ? > > Me a asi i Bizimu je to taky vicemene jedno jestli pristi nebo az > dalsi tyden. > > Pavel Ja bych byl pro to odsunuti. Minuly tyden jsem byl pryc takze tedka mam dost prace. Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rsta at bach.cz Tue Jul 2 02:39:34 2002 From: rsta at bach.cz (Radomir Starostik) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: Pondeli In-Reply-To: <3D2031E3.18525.354AD639@localhost> References: <20020628065728.GA13066@short.ucw.cz> <3D2031E3.18525.354AD639@localhost> Message-ID: <593475086.20020702093934@bach.cz> >> > > Samozrejme by sme to take mohli posunout o tyden - snad by nas >> nikdo > > neumlatil. Ale opravdu nechci tvorit nejake vyjimky... ... > >> mne by to posunuti nevadilo. A co ostatni ? >> >> Me a asi i Bizimu je to taky vicemene jedno jestli pristi nebo az >> dalsi tyden. >> >> Pavel > Ja bych byl pro to odsunuti. Minuly tyden jsem byl pryc takze tedka > mam dost prace. Tak to bysme meli cas (predpokladam pondeli 8.6), muzem se jeste domluvit na miste ? Radek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Mon Jul 8 09:33:15 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: Dneska? Message-ID: <3D29BECB.7606.1E91B03F@localhost> Minuly tyden jsme to odlozili, ale mam pocit, ze jsme se nedohodli na miste. Tak kam? Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From tom at triky.cz Mon Jul 8 09:43:35 2002 From: tom at triky.cz (Tomas Zeman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: Re: Dneska? References: <3D29BECB.7606.1E91B03F@localhost> Message-ID: <000b01c2268d$d758f210$ab48183e@dev> cau panove, byl jsem na prvnim srazu PM, uz hodne davno (bylo to na Namesti miru) schazite se jeste ? zasel bych pokecat o Perlu a dalsich vecech :-) -- tomas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenda Krynicky" To: Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: APM: Dneska? > Minuly tyden jsme to odlozili, ale mam pocit, ze jsme se nedohodli na > miste. Tak kam? > > Jenda > =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== > There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. > It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain > I can't find it. > --- me > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org > with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From short at ucw.cz Mon Jul 8 09:47:41 2002 From: short at ucw.cz (Jan Kratochvil) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: Dneska? In-Reply-To: <3D29BECB.7606.1E91B03F@localhost> References: <3D29BECB.7606.1E91B03F@localhost> Message-ID: <20020708144741.GA3766@short.ucw.cz> On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 04:33:15PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > Minuly tyden jsme to odlozili, ale mam pocit, ze jsme se nedohodli na > miste. Tak kam? Posledne se to dohadovalo do http://www.sweb.cz/hasib/ , tak by se to tedy mohlo zkusit, je to "Restaurant Kabul Karolina v ulici Karoliny Svetle, je to kousek od Narodni". (navrh to byl od Jana Kyncla , abych mu nebral copyright) Iniciativne se ozyvam, nebot by se mi rovnou hodilo stavit se ve Spaleny. :-) Lace --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Mon Jul 8 09:58:11 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: Dneska? In-Reply-To: <20020708144741.GA3766@short.ucw.cz> References: <3D29BECB.7606.1E91B03F@localhost> Message-ID: <3D29C4A3.28912.1EA88569@localhost> From: Jan Kratochvil > On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 04:33:15PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > > Minuly tyden jsme to odlozili, ale mam pocit, ze jsme se nedohodli > > na miste. Tak kam? > > Posledne se to dohadovalo do > > http://www.sweb.cz/hasib/ > > , tak by se to tedy mohlo zkusit, je to "Restaurant Kabul Karolina v > ulici Karoliny Svetle, je to kousek od Narodni". (navrh to byl od Jana > Kyncla , abych mu nebral copyright) Souhlas. To mam kousek :-P Mimochodem, asi dorazim az v osm. From: "Tomas Zeman" > cau panove, > > byl jsem na prvnim srazu PM, uz hodne davno (bylo to na Namesti > miru) > > schazite se jeste ? > > zasel bych pokecat o Perlu a dalsich vecech :-) Budem radi, kdyz se objevis :-) Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Mon Jul 8 10:04:02 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: Dneska? In-Reply-To: <3D29C4A3.28912.1EA88569@localhost> References: <3D29BECB.7606.1E91B03F@localhost> <3D29C4A3.28912.1EA88569@localhost> Message-ID: <20020708170402.A21168@petamem.com> On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 04:58:11PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > From: Jan Kratochvil > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 04:33:15PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > > > Minuly tyden jsme to odlozili, ale mam pocit, ze jsme se nedohodli > > > na miste. Tak kam? > > > > Posledne se to dohadovalo do > > > > http://www.sweb.cz/hasib/ S tim pocitam take, prijdeme ve 3: Radomir Starostik Dan Meszaros a ja. Asi nas tam bude hodne. Jendo zavolas tam a objednas stul? -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1941304 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Mon Jul 8 10:19:56 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: Dneska? In-Reply-To: <20020708170402.A21168@petamem.com> References: <3D29C4A3.28912.1EA88569@localhost> Message-ID: <3D29C9BC.20615.1EBC6D55@localhost> From: Richard Jelinek > On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 04:58:11PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > > From: Jan Kratochvil > > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 04:33:15PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > > > > Minuly tyden jsme to odlozili, ale mam pocit, ze jsme se > > > > nedohodli na miste. Tak kam? > > > > > > Posledne se to dohadovalo do > > > > > > http://www.sweb.cz/hasib/ > > S tim pocitam take, prijdeme ve 3: > > Radomir Starostik > Dan Meszaros > a ja. > > Asi nas tam bude hodne. Jendo zavolas tam a objednas stul? Od sedmi? Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From tom at triky.cz Mon Jul 8 10:45:55 2002 From: tom at triky.cz (Tomas Zeman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: Dneska? References: <3D29C4A3.28912.1EA88569@localhost> <3D29C9BC.20615.1EBC6D55@localhost> Message-ID: <001901c22696$8d29c530$ab48183e@dev> ok, takze chapu to dobre, ze to je dneska, v 19:00 misto : http://www.sweb.cz/hasib/ -- tomas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenda Krynicky" To: Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:19 PM Subject: Re: APM: Dneska? > From: Richard Jelinek > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 04:58:11PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > > > From: Jan Kratochvil > > > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 04:33:15PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > > > > > Minuly tyden jsme to odlozili, ale mam pocit, ze jsme se > > > > > nedohodli na miste. Tak kam? > > > > > > > > Posledne se to dohadovalo do > > > > > > > > http://www.sweb.cz/hasib/ > > > > S tim pocitam take, prijdeme ve 3: > > > > Radomir Starostik > > Dan Meszaros > > a ja. > > > > Asi nas tam bude hodne. Jendo zavolas tam a objednas stul? > > Od sedmi? > > Jenda > =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== > There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. > It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain > I can't find it. > --- me > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org > with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Tue Jul 9 09:05:02 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: regularni vyrazy Message-ID: <3D2B09AE.18929.239E3049@localhost> Zkousel jsem si benchmarknout jestli Perl je dostatecne intelignetni aby dokazal optimalizovat regularni vyrazy jak jsme se o tom vcera bavili. Neni. Ale mezi [cdefgh] a (?:c|d|e|f|g|h) uz moc rozdil neni. use Benchmark; my @s = ("aaaa" .. "bbbb"); sub Group { my $res = 0; for (@s) { /ab[cdefgh]/ and $res++; } return $res; } sub ORs { my $res = 0; for (@s) { /abc|abd|abe|abf|abg|abh/ and $res++; } return $res; } sub SmallORs { my $res = 0; for (@s) { /ab(?:c|d|e|f|g|h)/ and $res++; } return $res; } timethese 500, { Group => \&Group, ORs => \&ORs, SmallORs => \&SmallORs, } Perl v5.6.1 built for MSWin32-x86-multi-thread Benchmark: timing 500 iterations of Group, ORs, SmallORs... Group: 9 wallclock secs ( 9.05 usr + 0.00 sys = 9.05 CPU) @ 55.23/s (n=500) ORs: 30 wallclock secs (27.72 usr + 0.01 sys = 27.73 CPU) @ 18.03/s (n=500) SmallORs: 10 wallclock secs ( 9.18 usr + 0.01 sys = 9.19 CPU) @ 54.39/s (n=500) Perl 5.8 RC2 ( v5.7.3 built for MSWin32-x86-multi-thread) dava prakticky stejne vysledky: Benchmark: timing 500 iterations of Group, ORs, SmallORs... Group: 12 wallclock secs (11.55 usr + 0.01 sys = 11.56 CPU) @ 43.26/s (n=500) ORs: 33 wallclock secs (31.02 usr + 0.04 sys = 31.06 CPU) @ 16.10/s (n=500) SmallORs: 13 wallclock secs (11.62 usr + 0.01 sys = 11.63 CPU) @ 43.00/s (n=500) Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Wed Jul 10 04:48:24 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: regularni vyrazy In-Reply-To: <3D2B09AE.18929.239E3049@localhost> References: <3D2B09AE.18929.239E3049@localhost> Message-ID: <20020710114824.B5851@petamem.com> On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 04:05:02PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > Zkousel jsem si benchmarknout jestli Perl je dostatecne intelignetni > aby dokazal optimalizovat regularni vyrazy jak jsme se o tom vcera > bavili. Neni. Ale mezi [cdefgh] a (?:c|d|e|f|g|h) uz moc rozdil neni. Stejne si myslim, ze zde je hodne mista pro optimalizaci. Jedna se skoro o faktor 3 zrychleni mezi Group a OR. Co mne dost zarazilo je zpomaleni 5.8RC2 oproti 5.6.1 nekompiloval jsi to s nejak extra konzervativni optimalizaci? > Perl v5.6.1 built for MSWin32-x86-multi-thread > Benchmark: timing 500 iterations of Group, ORs, SmallORs... > Group: 9 wallclock secs ( 9.05 usr + 0.00 sys = 9.05 CPU) > @ 55.23/s (n=500) > ORs: 30 wallclock secs (27.72 usr + 0.01 sys = 27.73 CPU) > @ 18.03/s (n=500) > SmallORs: 10 wallclock secs ( 9.18 usr + 0.01 sys = 9.19 CPU) > @ 54.39/s (n=500) > > > Perl 5.8 RC2 ( v5.7.3 built for MSWin32-x86-multi-thread) dava > prakticky stejne vysledky: > > Benchmark: timing 500 iterations of Group, ORs, SmallORs... > Group: 12 wallclock secs (11.55 usr + 0.01 sys = 11.56 CPU) > @ 43.26/s (n=500) > ORs: 33 wallclock secs (31.02 usr + 0.04 sys = 31.06 CPU) > @ 16.10/s (n=500) > SmallORs: 13 wallclock secs (11.62 usr + 0.01 sys = 11.63 CPU) > @ 43.00/s (n=500) -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 1941304 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Wed Jul 10 06:09:05 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: regularni vyrazy In-Reply-To: <20020710114824.B5851@petamem.com> References: <3D2B09AE.18929.239E3049@localhost> Message-ID: <3D2C31F1.31225.28236EF3@localhost> From: Richard Jelinek > On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 04:05:02PM +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > > Zkousel jsem si benchmarknout jestli Perl je dostatecne intelignetni > > aby dokazal optimalizovat regularni vyrazy jak jsme se o tom vcera > > bavili. Neni. Ale mezi [cdefgh] a (?:c|d|e|f|g|h) uz moc rozdil > > neni. > > Stejne si myslim, ze zde je hodne mista pro optimalizaci. Jedna se > skoro o faktor 3 zrychleni mezi Group a OR. Jenom kdyz mas ten OR se stejnym zacatkem /abc|abd|abe|.../, pokud jde skutecne jenom o to jestli pouzijes GROUP nebo OR /ab(?:c|d|e|...)/ tak uz to tak velkej rozdil neni. > Co mne dost zarazilo je zpomaleni 5.8RC2 oproti 5.6.1 nekompiloval jsi > to s nejak extra konzervativni optimalizaci? Nikolivek. Kompiloval jsem to s prakticky defaultnima nastavenima. Mam povoleny iThreads (protoze hlavne s nima jsem si chtel hrat, a protoze jsou potreba pro fork()) ale to by nemelo vadit. iThreads perl nezpomalujou tak jako ty experimentalni thready co byly v Perlu 5.005. Podle toho co jsem cetl na perl-porters ma bejt 5.8ka o neco pomalejsi. Ale podrobnosti proc ti nereknu :-( Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From short at ucw.cz Mon Aug 5 11:18:47 2002 From: short at ucw.cz (Jan Kratochvil) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: Dnesni sraz? Message-ID: <20020805161847.GA493@short.ucw.cz> Hi, Dnesni sraz se asi rusi, ze? Nestalo se tu zvykem, ze bysme se schazeli bez predchozi dohody. A to jsem se zrovna chtel zeptat na konverze mezi charsety dle zadanych nazvu, ani jeden z qw(Unicode::Map8 Unicode::String) neni to ono a nic lepsiho jsem v CPANu nevidel... Lace --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Mon Aug 5 11:44:22 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: Dnesni sraz? In-Reply-To: <20020805161847.GA493@short.ucw.cz> Message-ID: <3D4EC786.17152.1685769@localhost> From: Jan Kratochvil > Dnesni sraz se asi rusi, ze? Nestalo se tu zvykem, ze bysme se > schazeli bez predchozi dohody. Ja nevim. Me se nejak nikam nechce. > A to jsem se zrovna chtel zeptat na konverze mezi charsety dle > zadanych nazvu, ani jeden z qw(Unicode::Map8 Unicode::String) neni to > ono a nic lepsiho jsem v CPANu nevidel... A jaky charsety potrebujes? Pokud by stacily ty co se pouzivaj tady tak bych navrhoval Cz::Cstocs. Ovsem s Unicode to samozrejme nema nic spolecnyho. Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From short at ucw.cz Mon Aug 5 11:58:15 2002 From: short at ucw.cz (Jan Kratochvil) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: CPAN charset uber-modul? [WAS: Re: APM: Dnesni sraz?] In-Reply-To: <3D4EC786.17152.1685769@localhost> References: <20020805161847.GA493@short.ucw.cz> <3D4EC786.17152.1685769@localhost> Message-ID: <20020805165815.GA603@short.ucw.cz> On Mon, 05 Aug 2002 18:44:22 +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > From: Jan Kratochvil ... > Ja nevim. Me se nejak nikam nechce. OK, tedy pro dnesek zrusen. A to mel minule takovou ucast. > > A to jsem se zrovna chtel zeptat na konverze mezi charsety dle > > zadanych nazvu, ani jeden z qw(Unicode::Map8 Unicode::String) neni to > > ono a nic lepsiho jsem v CPANu nevidel... > > A jaky charsety potrebujes? Pokud by stacily ty co se pouzivaj tady > tak bych navrhoval Cz::Cstocs. Ovsem s Unicode to samozrejme nema nic > spolecnyho. No potrebuju z vicemene libovolnyho (i kdyz dejme tomu CZ) charsetu do utf-8 a do ucs-2 (=utf-16). Coz jsem teda vyresil kombinaci tech qw(Unicode::Map8 Unicode::String), ale musim tam mit ne-8mi bitovy vstupy doplacnuty rucne (tj. extra checking a volat pro ne primo Unicode::String). Proste kod mam, ale na 6 radek, prijde mi, ze na tak zasadni a castou vec jako handlovani charsetu by snad melo bejt neco lepsiho. Spis, ze me to udivilo, jestli jsem neprehlid nejakej zasadni CPANovej modul. Diky, Lace --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Mon Aug 5 14:39:09 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: CPAN charset uber-modul? [WAS: Re: APM: Dnesni sraz?] In-Reply-To: <20020805165815.GA603@short.ucw.cz> References: <3D4EC786.17152.1685769@localhost> Message-ID: <3D4EF07D.15618.2085A55@localhost> From: Jan Kratochvil > On Mon, 05 Aug 2002 18:44:22 +0200, Jenda Krynicky wrote: > > From: Jan Kratochvil > > > A to jsem se zrovna chtel zeptat na konverze mezi charsety dle > > > zadanych nazvu, ani jeden z qw(Unicode::Map8 Unicode::String) neni > > > to ono a nic lepsiho jsem v CPANu nevidel... > > > > A jaky charsety potrebujes? Pokud by stacily ty co se pouzivaj tady > > tak bych navrhoval Cz::Cstocs. Ovsem s Unicode to samozrejme nema > > nic spolecnyho. > > No potrebuju z vicemene libovolnyho (i kdyz dejme tomu CZ) charsetu do > utf-8 a do ucs-2 (=utf-16). Coz jsem teda vyresil kombinaci tech > qw(Unicode::Map8 Unicode::String), ale musim tam mit ne-8mi bitovy > vstupy doplacnuty rucne (tj. extra checking a volat pro ne primo > Unicode::String). > > Proste kod mam, ale na 6 radek, prijde mi, ze na tak zasadni a castou > vec jako handlovani charsetu by snad melo bejt neco lepsiho. Spis, ze > me to udivilo, jestli jsem neprehlid nejakej zasadni CPANovej modul. No ja myslim, ze tohle by jit melo, ale spis az v 5.8. V 5.6.1 je ten Unicode support porad tak nejak nedodelanej. Ovsem ja zatim prejit nemuzu. Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rsta at bach.cz Tue Aug 6 00:26:16 2002 From: rsta at bach.cz (Radomir Starostik) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: UTF8 In-Reply-To: <20020805165815.GA603@short.ucw.cz> References: <20020805161847.GA493@short.ucw.cz> <3D4EC786.17152.1685769@localhost> <20020805165815.GA603@short.ucw.cz> Message-ID: <1961815490.20020806072616@bach.cz> Ahoj, Nezkouseli jste nekdo kompilovat/instalovat Unicode::Map8 verze 0.11 pod Windows ? Mne se to nedari. Radek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From short at ucw.cz Tue Aug 6 03:05:55 2002 From: short at ucw.cz (Jan Kratochvil) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: UTF8 In-Reply-To: <1961815490.20020806072616@bach.cz> References: <20020805161847.GA493@short.ucw.cz> <3D4EC786.17152.1685769@localhost> <20020805165815.GA603@short.ucw.cz> <1961815490.20020806072616@bach.cz> Message-ID: <20020806080555.GA2204@short.ucw.cz> On Tue, 06 Aug 2002 07:26:16 +0200, Radomir Starostik wrote: > Ahoj, > Nezkouseli jste nekdo kompilovat/instalovat Unicode::Map8 verze 0.11 > pod Windows ? Mne se to nedari. Nezkousel, provozuji to pod Linuxem. Ale dostal jsem ted attachnutou offlist reply na muj puvodni dotaz a cely Unicode::Map8 je tedy s 5.8.0-lou snad jiz obsolete, mel bych tedy uz konecne zupgrade-ovat (z cehoz by meli ve firme asi radost, kdysi jim nevonela 5.6.0 :-) ). Lace -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Roman Vasicek Subject: Re: CPAN charset uber-modul? [WAS: Re: APM: Dnesni sraz?] Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:21:16 +0200 (CEST) Size: 1820 Url: http://mail.pm.org/archives/prague-pm/attachments/20020806/f839c1c3/attachment.eml From rj at petamem.com Tue Aug 6 09:09:13 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: CPAN charset uber-modul? [WAS: Re: APM: Dnesni sraz?] In-Reply-To: <20020805165815.GA603@short.ucw.cz> References: <20020805161847.GA493@short.ucw.cz> <3D4EC786.17152.1685769@localhost> <20020805165815.GA603@short.ucw.cz> Message-ID: <20020806160913.B15307@petamem.com> On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 06:58:15PM +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > > Ja nevim. Me se nejak nikam nechce. > > OK, tedy pro dnesek zrusen. A to mel minule takovou ucast. Rad bych navrhnul nejakou motivujici akci. Pri minulem srazu - i kdyz jiste podarenem - jsem trochu dostal dojem, ze bud a) Nemame moc o cem se bavit (myslim ted odborne). Prece jen diskuze o jinych jazycich a otazce zda-li ML mel ci nemel lazy evaluation se uz ted vedla 3krat. Otazky PHP/Perl uz snad tu taky byli. A pak nejake to predstavovani... a/nebo b) Prague PM nemaji dost substanc ci relevanc pro perlovy svet. Rozhodne ne takovy jako jine PM groups. K b) uvadim jenom jako priklad Londynskou PM, ktera je inkubatorem ruznych modulu ci akci, ci FAQs atd. Ok. Muzeme to vsichni povazovat za takovy "ach - tak jednou kazdy dva mesice se podivam, pokecam, napapam", ale to snad nemusime delat pod kabatkem perlu. Hm? Co tak nejaky projekt. Treba nejaky nevyreseny lokalizacni problem? Nejaky modulek ktery by treba elegantne resil prekodovani (diakritika) tohoto nestastneho jazyka (iso/win/without). Nebo tak nejak. Co tak trochu upgrade nasich webovych stranek? Evtl. seznam clenu, zajmy,... Just my 2/100 Kc -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 2026049 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From tom at triky.cz Tue Aug 6 11:39:31 2002 From: tom at triky.cz (Tomas Zeman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: CPAN charset uber-modul? [WAS: Re: APM: Dnesni sraz?] References: <20020805161847.GA493@short.ucw.cz> <3D4EC786.17152.1685769@localhost> <20020805165815.GA603@short.ucw.cz> <20020806160913.B15307@petamem.com> Message-ID: <008501c23d67$d8501d10$ab48183e@dev> ave ! souhlasim s timto emailem a mam par pripominek 1. Me nevadi, ze pouzivame Perl jako "kabat" pro setkani a veceri, aspon si doma nemusim nic varit :-) 2. Spolene tema pro ryze technickou diskusi nejde mit cely vecer, protoze kazdy z nas dela neco jineho (jine problemy) - (omlouvam se, ze nebudu psat jmena, ale na srazu jsem byl pouze 2x (na tom prvnim a tom minulym)a mam v nich hokej) - jeden s perlem na windozich (Jenda), dalsi s IT sytemem pro statni organizaci, ja ted resim jakej MVC pouzivat v jave, , Lace zase asi spise resi problemy v Cecku , atd. posledni dobou mam take radeji ekonomicke diskuse , nebo o Unixu . s kamosem chcem zalozit konzultanskou firmu na unix (misto brigady pri studiu) a delat instalaci/konfiguraci/konzultace/zabezpeceni atd.. To ze s nama v hospode byl reditel SuSE (Richard) sem se dozvedel az kdyz odesel :-( stejne tak, ze Lace je Linuxovej guru (to sem se dozvedel pote co odjel na motorce). Zrovna jijich nazor na ten napad by me zajimal. 3. kolik clenu ma londynska PM? Pokud oni tvori FAQ, tak to dava smysl, protoze je v AJ a cist ho muze cely svet, psat nebo lokalizovat navod na Perl v cestine si precte prilis malo lidi. Je tu nekdo z projektu perl.cpan.cz ? 4. upgradnout stranky by to chtelo, seznam clenu kazdopadne , mozna i popisek/zivotopis? btw.: kolik lidi je prihlasenejch na tomhle listu ? -- tomas zeman > > a) Nemame moc o cem se bavit (myslim ted odborne). Prece jen diskuze o > jinych jazycich a otazce zda-li ML mel ci nemel lazy evaluation se uz > ted vedla 3krat. Otazky PHP/Perl uz snad tu taky byli. A pak nejake to > predstavovani... > > a/nebo > > b) Prague PM nemaji dost substanc ci relevanc pro perlovy > svet. Rozhodne ne takovy jako jine PM groups. > > K b) uvadim jenom jako priklad Londynskou PM, ktera je inkubatorem > ruznych modulu ci akci, ci FAQs atd. > > Ok. Muzeme to vsichni povazovat za takovy "ach - tak jednou kazdy dva > mesice se podivam, pokecam, napapam", ale to snad nemusime delat pod > kabatkem perlu. Hm? > > Co tak nejaky projekt. Treba nejaky nevyreseny lokalizacni problem? > Nejaky modulek ktery by treba elegantne resil prekodovani (diakritika) > tohoto nestastneho jazyka (iso/win/without). Nebo tak nejak. > > Co tak trochu upgrade nasich webovych stranek? Evtl. seznam clenu, > zajmy,... > > Just my 2/100 Kc > > -- > best regards, > > Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek > > - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - > -= 2026049 Mind Units =- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org > with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From short at ucw.cz Tue Aug 6 12:27:24 2002 From: short at ucw.cz (Jan Kratochvil) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:53 2004 Subject: APM: Re: Stav PraguePM [WAS: Re: CPAN charset uber-modul?] In-Reply-To: <008501c23d67$d8501d10$ab48183e@dev> References: <20020805161847.GA493@short.ucw.cz> <3D4EC786.17152.1685769@localhost> <20020805165815.GA603@short.ucw.cz> <20020806160913.B15307@petamem.com> <008501c23d67$d8501d10$ab48183e@dev> Message-ID: <20020806172723.GB2034@short.ucw.cz> On Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:39:31 +0200, Tomas Zeman wrote: ... > 1. Me nevadi, ze pouzivame Perl jako "kabat" pro setkani a veceri, aspon si > doma nemusim nic varit :-) Tak nejak. :-) > 3. ... > protoze je v AJ a cist ho muze cely svet, psat nebo lokalizovat navod na > Perl v cestine si precte prilis malo lidi. Je tu nekdo z projektu > perl.cpan.cz ? Co se tyce lokalizaci, tak ty maji IMO smysl jen u nekterych veci - napr. takovy OpenOffice CZ je perfektni napad (i realizace), na druhou stranu Perl pro anglicky nekomunikujici lidi nevim nevim - nikdy nebude preklad dostatecne up-to-date a dostatecne rozsahly (extremne vzato cely CPAN), takze anglicky nectouci clovek stejne v tom nebude moct psat. Takove projekty masivnich prekladu si muze dovolit zafinancovat fa Microsoft, ale free project v tak male zemi na to myslim nema. > 4. upgradnout stranky by to chtelo, seznam clenu kazdopadne , mozna i > popisek/zivotopis? > btw.: kolik lidi je prihlasenejch na tomhle listu ? echo "who prague-pm"|mail Majordomo@pm.org -> 16 subscribers Lace --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rj at petamem.com Wed Aug 7 05:05:53 2002 From: rj at petamem.com (Richard Jelinek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:54 2004 Subject: APM: Re: Stav PraguePM [WAS: Re: CPAN charset uber-modul?] In-Reply-To: <20020806172723.GB2034@short.ucw.cz> References: <20020805161847.GA493@short.ucw.cz> <3D4EC786.17152.1685769@localhost> <20020805165815.GA603@short.ucw.cz> <20020806160913.B15307@petamem.com> <008501c23d67$d8501d10$ab48183e@dev> <20020806172723.GB2034@short.ucw.cz> Message-ID: <20020807120553.A21322@petamem.com> On Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 07:27:24PM +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > Co se tyce lokalizaci, tak ty maji IMO smysl jen u nekterych veci - napr. > takovy OpenOffice CZ je perfektni napad (i realizace), na druhou stranu Perl No - tak s perlem by to snad melo mit *neco* spolecneho. > pro anglicky nekomunikujici lidi nevim nevim - nikdy nebude preklad dostatecne > up-to-date a dostatecne rozsahly (extremne vzato cely CPAN), takze anglicky > nectouci clovek stejne v tom nebude moct psat. Takove projekty masivnich > prekladu si muze dovolit zafinancovat fa Microsoft, ale free project v tak male > zemi na to myslim nema. Ta lokalizace byl spis jen takovy ad hoc navrh. Treba nas napadne nejaky skvely modul, nebo rozsireni stavajiciho. Ale proste neco, na co by se pak dal nalepit stitek "Prague PM". -- best regards, Dipl.-Inf. Richard Jelinek - PetaMem s.r.o. - Drahobejlova 1019 - Prague - www.petamem.com - -= 2026049 Mind Units =- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From short at ucw.cz Wed Aug 7 14:53:01 2002 From: short at ucw.cz (Jan Kratochvil) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:54 2004 Subject: APM: Stav PraguePM In-Reply-To: <20020807120553.A21322@petamem.com> References: <20020805161847.GA493@short.ucw.cz> <3D4EC786.17152.1685769@localhost> <20020805165815.GA603@short.ucw.cz> <20020806160913.B15307@petamem.com> <008501c23d67$d8501d10$ab48183e@dev> <20020806172723.GB2034@short.ucw.cz> <20020807120553.A21322@petamem.com> Message-ID: <20020807195301.GA3248@short.ucw.cz> Hi all, On Wed, 07 Aug 2002 12:05:53 +0200, Richard Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 07:27:24PM +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: ... > > takovy OpenOffice CZ je perfektni napad (i realizace), > > No - tak s perlem by to snad melo mit *neco* spolecneho. No ja to psal jen proto, abych ukazal, ze nezavrhuji vsechny dokumentace. ... > Ta lokalizace byl spis jen takovy ad hoc navrh. Jo vlastne jsem to chtel shrnout tak, ze Perl je myslim spise pro pokrocilejsi programatory (aspon jsem se s timto nazorem jiz setkal), kteri se jimi ale stat bez anglictiny IMO nemohou - nebo nekdo znate takovy pripad? > Treba nas napadne nejaky skvely modul, nebo rozsireni stavajiciho. Ale proste > neco, na co by se pak dal nalepit stitek "Prague PM". Nepotreboval jste nekdo neco kolem kompatibility s nejakymi RPC/RMI-styl (Remote Procedure Call/Remote Method Invocation) framework-y? CPAN ma Net::RPI (Perl-proprietary protocol), SOAP::*, XMLRPC::*, ale nema JMS (Java Messaging Service), SOAP-over-JMS, EJB-interface (Enterprise Java Beans) apod. Ale aktualne nic z toho nastesti nepotrebuju (=kdybych potreboval, tak bych odmitl) a cas to psat stejne nemam, takze tento muj odstavec je tu asi dost irelevantni. :-( Lace --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From short at ucw.cz Mon Sep 2 10:27:08 2002 From: short at ucw.cz (Jan Kratochvil) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:54 2004 Subject: APM: Dnesni akce? Message-ID: <20020902152708.GA25234@short.ucw.cz> Hi, Jak to vypada s dnesni schuzi? Tj. s tim planym tlachanim, jak tu RJ poznamenal. Pokud by tedy dnes byla, tak kde? Lace --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Mon Sep 2 10:39:36 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:54 2004 Subject: APM: Dnesni akce? In-Reply-To: <20020902152708.GA25234@short.ucw.cz> Message-ID: <3D73A258.23057.6148C125@localhost> Date sent: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 17:27:08 +0200 From: Jan Kratochvil To: prague-pm@pm.org Subject: APM: Dnesni akce? > Hi, > > Jak to vypada s dnesni schuzi? Tj. s tim planym tlachanim, jak tu RJ > poznamenal. Pokud by tedy dnes byla, tak kde? Ja jsem nachcipanej, takze ja budu travit vecer pod duchnou a nalejvat se bylinkovym cajem. Mejte se :-| Jenda =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From rv at petamem.com Mon Sep 2 10:30:58 2002 From: rv at petamem.com (Roman Vasicek) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:54 2004 Subject: APM: Dnesni akce? In-Reply-To: <20020902152708.GA25234@short.ucw.cz> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > Hi, > > Jak to vypada s dnesni schuzi? Tj. s tim planym tlachanim, jak tu RJ > poznamenal. Pokud by tedy dnes byla, tak kde? > Bohuzel se dnes nezucastnim. -- best regards Ing. Roman Vasicek software developer +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ PetaMem s.r.o., Drahobejlova 27/1019, 190 00 Praha 9 - Liben, Czech republic http://www.petamem.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From tom at triky.cz Mon Sep 2 12:02:57 2002 From: tom at triky.cz (Tomas Zeman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:54 2004 Subject: APM: Dnesni akce? Message-ID: <001301c252a2$9682f6a0$ab48183e@dev> takze dneska to pada kdy to ma byt priste ? -- tomas zeman On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > Hi, > > Jak to vypada s dnesni schuzi? Tj. s tim planym tlachanim, jak tu RJ > poznamenal. Pokud by tedy dnes byla, tak kde? > Bohuzel se dnes nezucastnim. -- best regards Ing. Roman Vasicek software developer +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ PetaMem s.r.o., Drahobejlova 27/1019, 190 00 Praha 9 - Liben, Czech republic http://www.petamem.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body. From Jenda at Krynicky.cz Thu Sep 26 09:51:46 2002 From: Jenda at Krynicky.cz (Jenda Krynicky) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:54 2004 Subject: APM: (Fwd) [pm_groups] Very much alive in Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <3D933B22.29304.A70D036@localhost> Tohle mi prislo z pm_groups@pm.org. Nemeli bysme taky zacit neco delat? :-| Pokud nekoho napada nejaky tema ktery by(ch) mohl odprednaset, ozvete se. Jenda ------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: Jay Lawrence Subject: [pm_groups] Very much alive in Ottawa, Canada Send reply to: pm_groups@pm.org Date sent: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:24:06 -0400 Hi All, I wanted to post a "ping" from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Over the past few years the Ottawa PM group has struggled with its reason to exist. I'm very happy to report that a few decisions that I took this last winter have been paying off big time! Here's what I decided to to: a - survey the members on the list - big questions were about time and perceptions of the group b - secured a meeting space at a central library for our monthly meetings c - delivered 3 or 4 presentations about things I know a bit about kickstarting the presentation process d - now I have 2 presentations in the queue and more in people's minds e - befriended our local Linux group - presented at linux meeting - giving Perl tutorial tonight - waiting list of 11 even! f - overhauled our website to make it easy to maintain and improve The result is that we have retained most of our core members, sparked the desire for people to present, and even at our last meeting had 5 new faces. For us the mix of 50/50 for presentations and pub time has really paid off and I expect we'll see the group continues to do well. :) Jay ps - I am going to start using PerlPoint for my presentation work shortly. I will be posting that on our site. As well - you will be able to download and use any of those presentations at your own PM group. http://ottawa.pm.org/ That includes my upcoming "Survival Perl" talk from tonight. _______________________________________________ pm_groups mailing list pm_groups@pm.org http://www.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups ------- End of forwarded message ------- =========== Jenda@Krynicky.cz == http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz ========== There is a reason for living. There must be. I've seen it somewhere. It's just that in the mess on my table ... and in my brain I can't find it. --- me --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send a mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with command "unsubscribe prague-pm" in the message body.