From japh at cos.agilent.com Tue Sep 3 12:35:01 2002 From: japh at cos.agilent.com (Tim Chambers) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:14 2004 Subject: Perl lunch this Thursday Message-ID: <004301c25370$3c403a80$80441d82@TC5570P> Mark your calendars now. WHAT: monthly Pikes Peak Perl Mongers lunch WHERE: TBD WHEN: Thursday, 9/5, at 11:30 WHY: food and geekly conversation Any suggestions for where to meet? <>< Tim From jtevans at kilnar.com Tue Sep 3 20:15:22 2002 From: jtevans at kilnar.com (John Evans) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:14 2004 Subject: Perl lunch this Thursday In-Reply-To: <004301c25370$3c403a80$80441d82@TC5570P> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Tim Chambers wrote: > Mark your calendars now. > > WHAT: monthly Pikes Peak Perl Mongers lunch > WHERE: TBD > WHEN: Thursday, 9/5, at 11:30 > WHY: food and geekly conversation > > Any suggestions for where to meet? > I won't be able to make it this time around (as has been true for the past 6 months) but I will be able to be there starting next month. I just accepted a contract position at Aglient doing Unix system security, so I'll be back to a normal life in a few weeks! See ya next month! -- John Evans http://jtevans.kilnar.com/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s++:- a- C+++>++++ ULSB++++$ P+++$ L++++$ E--- W++ N+ o? K? w O- M V PS+ !PE Y+ PGP t(--) 5-- X++(+++) R+++ tv+ b+++(++++) DI+++ D++>+++ G+ e h--- r+++ y+++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From japh at cos.agilent.com Wed Sep 4 12:12:15 2002 From: japh at cos.agilent.com (Tim Chambers) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:14 2004 Subject: Perl lunch this Thursday References: <004301c25370$3c403a80$80441d82@TC5570P> <02090312014301.07078@bingo> Message-ID: <004601c25436$38483a60$80441d82@TC5570P> Ed Loehr wrote this, but it bounced. (Ed, I can't figure out which e-mail is you on the list of subscribers, but ed@LoehrTech.com isn't on the list. I second Panera. I'll remind everyone tomorrow morning. <>< Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Loehr" Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Perl lunch this Thursday > On Tuesday 03 September 2002 11:35 am, Tim Chambers wrote: > > Mark your calendars now. > > > > WHAT: monthly Pikes Peak Perl Mongers lunch > > WHERE: TBD > > WHEN: Thursday, 9/5, at 11:30 > > WHY: food and geekly conversation > > > > Any suggestions for where to meet? > > Panera Bread has pretty good food. It's on west side of N. Academy, just > north of Woodmen (shortens my 30 minute drive to 20 minutes!). > > Ed > From pwdrhound at pcisys.net Thu Sep 5 10:48:05 2002 From: pwdrhound at pcisys.net (pwdrhound@pcisys.net) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:14 2004 Subject: Perl lunch this Thursday Message-ID: <200209051648.g85Gm50Y002141@leo.pcisys.net> > I second Panera. I'll remind everyone tomorrow morning. I can't make it. My car is in the shop and I need to pick it up at noon. Have a good time everyone! Greg Walters --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From japh at cos.agilent.com Thu Sep 5 12:05:40 2002 From: japh at cos.agilent.com (Tim Chambers) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:14 2004 Subject: Perl lunch TODAY Message-ID: <001501c254fe$7782ea90$80441d82@TC5570P> WHAT: monthly Pikes Peak Perl Mongers lunch WHERE: Panera Bread, on the west side of N. Academy, just north of Woodmen WHEN: today (Thursday) at 11:30 WHY: food & geekly conversation <>< Tim 719.590.5570 (w) 719.651.0116 (cell) From japh at cos.agilent.com Thu Sep 5 15:25:16 2002 From: japh at cos.agilent.com (Tim Chambers) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:14 2004 Subject: summary of lunch today Message-ID: <004c01c2551a$59c55350$80441d82@TC5570P> EdL, BobG, DaveW, and I had a delicious lunch at Panera Bread. As usual, the geekly conversation was less about Perl than the rest of the geek universe. Genetic research (Ed warned us about Monsanto -- I'll let him fill in the details 'cause I'd get it wrong and couldn't find Web pages to back up what I thought I heard), Branson (Missouri -- Tim called it "Las Vegas" for families), and geek movies: Dave said Simone was better than expected (that's "sim-1" if, like me, the pun escaped you), Tim said Minority Report was better than expected (Bob liked it too). Attendees -- please add your impressions! Until next month, Tim ><> "A poet could not but be gay, in such a jocund company..." -- William Wordsworth [1] [1] http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/9/5/161631/3028 From pppm at bluepolka.net Thu Sep 5 17:58:53 2002 From: pppm at bluepolka.net (Ed L.) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:14 2004 Subject: summary of lunch today In-Reply-To: <004c01c2551a$59c55350$80441d82@TC5570P> References: <004c01c2551a$59c55350$80441d82@TC5570P> Message-ID: <02090516585300.15442@bingo> On Thursday 05 September 2002 02:25 pm, Tim Chambers wrote: > ...Genetic research (Ed warned us about Monsanto -- I'll let him > fill in the details 'cause I'd get it wrong and couldn't find Web pages > to back up what I thought I heard)... Well, now that our lunchtime conversation has become fodder for google archives and future world generations, I should clarify that the conversation was regarding what is known as Genetic Use Restriction Technology (GURT). GURT is *existing* technology that enables genetic alteration of crop seeds to, among other things, cause them to become sterile or produce sterile seeds, thereby forcing a purchase of new seeds (or an activating agent) from a fortunate supplier. [The millenia-old practice is to save seeds from this year's crop for future years planting.] A google search for "pharmacia monsanto starlink terminator" or "astrazeneca gurt" will yield more than you probably ever wanted to know. Here's a clip from Cornell for the curious: http://www.comm.cornell.edu/gmo/issues/terminator.html And what does this have to do with perl? Well, nothing, really. Cheers, Ed From japh at cos.agilent.com Thu Sep 5 18:46:47 2002 From: japh at cos.agilent.com (Tim Chambers) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:14 2004 Subject: summary of lunch today References: <004c01c2551a$59c55350$80441d82@TC5570P> <02090516585300.15442@bingo> Message-ID: <008101c25536$805abb60$80441d82@TC5570P> Ed wrote: > Well, now that our lunchtime conversation has become fodder for google > archives and future world generations... Clarification: this list is not archived on the Web. I do keep a personal copy of interesting messages, but I consider them to be private (to the list members) correspondence. <>< Tim From dave.waddell at wcom.com Fri Sep 6 12:14:15 2002 From: dave.waddell at wcom.com (David R. Waddell) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:15 2004 Subject: summary of lunch today In-Reply-To: <02090516585300.15442@bingo> References: <004c01c2551a$59c55350$80441d82@TC5570P> <004c01c2551a$59c55350$80441d82@TC5570P> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20020906111415.008d9b50@pop.mcit.com> After thinking about this GURT system, I'm not sure it is at all practical. The three most important aspects of a crop variety are yield, yield and yield. If a company develops a variety that significantly increases yield, I don't think they could protect it in this way. The terminator gene is also susceptible to mutation and there is the strongest possible selection for it (only those that mutate survive the second year). So if the variety is really that good, a farmer will simply plant out enough seeds to get the mutation that allows plant to survive to the next generation. So they will be able to plant the new variety without the terminator gene in the third, or fourth year. Since it is different because of the mutation it may even be completely legal as far as patent laws are concerned. The patents are difficult to defend in foreign countries anyway. I think the BT cotton (resistant to caterpillers because of a gene from Bacillus thurengensis) showed up in Mexico and Egypt without being purchased from Monsanto. I think Monsanto would have a difficult time proving that they are using their strain, since the technolgy to develop the strains is in the public domain. However, it is almost certainly Monsanto's variety that was stolen. This cotton had very good resistance during testing and the first couple of years. However, the insects are already showing resistance. All the leaves produce the BT gene product all the time, so there is again a very strong selection. It would be better if the gene was only expressed when a caterpillar infestation was underway. BTW Most maize planted in the Midwest is hybrid and its quality decreases in subsequent generations if the farmer chooses to plant it. For maize, farmers are already dependent on the seed producing companies and I don't think we are worse off for it. David At 04:58 PM 9/5/02 -0600, Ed L. wrote: >On Thursday 05 September 2002 02:25 pm, Tim Chambers wrote: >> ...Genetic research (Ed warned us about Monsanto -- I'll let him >> fill in the details 'cause I'd get it wrong and couldn't find Web pages >> to back up what I thought I heard)... > >Well, now that our lunchtime conversation has become fodder for google >archives and future world generations, I should clarify that the >conversation was regarding what is known as Genetic Use Restriction >Technology (GURT). GURT is *existing* technology that enables >genetic alteration of crop seeds to, among other things, cause them to >become sterile or produce sterile seeds, thereby forcing a purchase of new >seeds (or an activating agent) from a fortunate supplier. [The >millenia-old practice is to save seeds from this year's crop for future >years planting.] A google search for "pharmacia monsanto starlink >terminator" or "astrazeneca gurt" will yield more than you probably ever >wanted to know. Here's a clip from Cornell for the curious: > > http://www.comm.cornell.edu/gmo/issues/terminator.html > >And what does this have to do with perl? Well, nothing, really. > >Cheers, >Ed > From japh at cos.agilent.com Sat Sep 7 01:04:07 2002 From: japh at cos.agilent.com (Tim Chambers) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:15 2004 Subject: Fw: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, Sept 6 References: <200209070440.g874eoq17717@smtp.oreilly.com> Message-ID: <003601c25634$74970e60$4d83b88d@TC5570P> O'Reilly User Group Program Newsletter September 6, 2002 Please Spread The Word To Your Members... 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Our authors take this process and organize it into manageable, easy to understand steps in our "Switch to Mac OS X" series. http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/ct/48 Until next time, Marsee From japh at cos.agilent.com Tue Sep 17 13:47:22 2002 From: japh at cos.agilent.com (Tim Chambers) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:15 2004 Subject: review the Perl Review Message-ID: <00be01c25e7a$a987de30$80441d82@TC5570P> http://www.theperlreview.com/ I just found this via http://use.perl.org/ today. I downloaded the PDF but haven't read it yet. Comments [1] say it's more academic than http://www.theperljournal.com/ What do you think? <>< Tim [1] http://use.perl.org/articles/02/09/17/121210.shtml?tid=9 From japh at cos.agilent.com Sun Sep 22 19:44:34 2002 From: japh at cos.agilent.com (Tim Chambers) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:15 2004 Subject: Fw: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, Sept 20 References: <200209210250.g8L2oIA16053@smtp.oreilly.com> Message-ID: <003d01c2629a$64b89820$0b85b88d@TC5570P> O'Reilly User Group Program Newsletter September 20, 2002 Spread The Word To Your Members... 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O'Reilly will release the third edition of sendmail in December. http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2002/09/10/sendmail.html James Duncan Davidson will be speaking at the O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/macosx2002/view/e_spkr/246 ***Using PC Peripherals on the Mac Much of the "Switch" discussion has focused on computers and software. But what about those expensive peripherals Windows users have already invested in? Do they get tossed out the Window with XP? Wei Meng Lee says no. And he has the toys to back it up. http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2002/09/13/pc_peripherals.html ================================================ Announcements From Your Peers ================================================ ***Rob Wehrli available for LUG presentations Rob (Hawaii Linux User Group) provides free technical presentations of topics focused on embedded Linux and embedded systems porting and programming using uClinux! Free pizza and door prizes, too. More Info: http://www.azpower.com/H8-uClinux/guest_speaker.html ***San Rafael, CA-- Henry Norr, San Francisco Chronicle Columnist, to Speak at the Golden Gate Computer Society's next meeting. His talk "The PC: Progress Report for 2002 and Looking Ahead" will be at 7:15pm, September 23, 2002, Embassy Suites, San Rafael, CA. For more information: www.ggcs.org ***Lake Buena Vista, Florida-- The CF Underground 4 Conference is being held Sun October 27 10:00am-1:30pm at the Cabana Bar and Grill in Lake Buena Vista, Florida. http://www.cfconf.org/cf_underground4/ CF Underground 4 banners for you to post: http://www.cfconf.org/cf_underground4/spreadtheword.cfm ***Southern California-- The USCLUG, SCLUG, and UCLALUG are proud to present the first annual Southern California Linux Expo scheduled for November 2, 2002 at the Davidson Conference Center on the University of Southern California campus, the Southern California Linux Expo will bring together Linux and Free Software companies, developers, and users. For additional information: http://www.socallinuxexpo.com/ If you would like to display a poster for this event, please contact Lei Zhang, leiz@linux.ucla.edu Until next time, Marsee From japh at cos.agilent.com Mon Sep 30 12:49:44 2002 From: japh at cos.agilent.com (Tim Chambers) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:15 2004 Subject: Perl lunch this Thursday Message-ID: <004d01c268a9$e47accd0$80441d82@TC5570P> Mark your calendars now. WHAT: monthly Pikes Peak Perl Mongers lunch WHERE: TBD WHEN: Thursday, 10/3, at 11:30 WHY: food and geekly conversation I have a meeting I can't miss that ends at 11:40 but will probably be over earlier. I won't be so late to warrant changing the time, though. And I'll definitely want to go out and have a beer afterward. (It's a layoff information meeting. [1]) Any suggestions for where to meet? I'd prefer somewhere with a good bar. :-) <>< Tim [1] http://news.com.com/2100-1001-959167.html From jtevans at kilnar.com Mon Sep 30 14:56:12 2002 From: jtevans at kilnar.com (John Evans) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:15 2004 Subject: Perl lunch this Thursday In-Reply-To: <004d01c268a9$e47accd0$80441d82@TC5570P> Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Tim Chambers wrote: > Any suggestions for where to meet? I'd prefer somewhere with a good bar. :-) > For the first time in several months, I'll be there!!! Ruby Tuesday has great food and a decent bar, so that would probably be my first suggestion. It's also not too far from Agilent (where I'm at too!!) so that would allow Tim quick access to the much needed beer. -- John Evans http://jtevans.kilnar.com/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s++:- a- C+++>++++ ULSB++++$ P+++$ L++++$ E--- W++ N+ o? K? w O- M V PS+ !PE Y+ PGP t(--) 5-- X++(+++) R+++ tv+ b+++(++++) DI+++ D++>+++ G+ e h--- r+++ y+++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From jtevans at kilnar.com Mon Sep 30 17:41:33 2002 From: jtevans at kilnar.com (John Evans) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:15 2004 Subject: OOP Message-ID: I'm doing pretty good at OO Perl, but I would like to know if there is a way to create an package, OOP it, and use it all in a single file. I'm trying to write a small script that would be very easy to OOP, but I don't want to have to manage two seperate files (just in case they get serparated and the whole thing falls apart.) At the moment, I have been doing something like: FILE: Lookup.pm ============= package Lookup; sub new { # blah blah blah } sub find_user { # blah blah blah } FILE: finduser.pl ==================== use Lookup; $users{"Joe"} = Lookup->new(183); $users{"Bob"} = Lookup->new(184); foreach $user (sort keys $users) { $users{$user}->find_user(); } Basically, I'm trying to combine Lookup.pm into finduser.pl so that I just have a single file. What's the trick to get it done? Thanks! -- John Evans http://jtevans.kilnar.com/ From japh at cos.agilent.com Mon Sep 30 18:05:44 2002 From: japh at cos.agilent.com (Tim Chambers) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:15 2004 Subject: How bad can tech get? Message-ID: <012f01c268d5$e8883ac0$80441d82@TC5570P> Fellow Perl Mongers, To encourage discussion this week, I thought I'd direct your attention to a Kuro5hin story I wrote: "Whither tech future?" http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/8/19/54354/3995 I wrote it last month. I talk about the tech future. I say it looks disappointing, at least for the next 10 years when compared with the past 10. I'd also like to point out a few comments I made: "on second thought, it's an economic phenomenon" http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/8/19/54354/3995/147#147 "fuel cells" http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/8/19/54354/3995/148#148 "a second look at Batelle's predictions" http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/8/19/54354/3995/149#149 "pebble bed nuclear reactors" http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/8/19/54354/3995/150#150 I encourage you to contribute to the discussion at Kuro5hin, but if you want to take it offline to discuss just among the PPPM, visit this link: http://www.quicktopic.com/16/H/cyYwiF5SkEJ <>< Tim From pppm at bluepolka.net Mon Sep 30 18:48:53 2002 From: pppm at bluepolka.net (Ed L.) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:18:15 2004 Subject: OOP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0209301748530N.01556@bingo> On Monday 30 September 2002 04:41 pm, John Evans wrote: > I'm doing pretty good at OO Perl, but I would like to know if there is a > way to create an package, OOP it, and use it all in a single file. I'm > trying to write a small script that would be very easy to OOP, but I > don't want to have to manage two seperate files (just in case they get > serparated and the whole thing falls apart.) How about this one? oop.pm: package oop; sub new { } print "Do something.\n"; You could check $0 to see if it was called standalone or included as a module. Or check the call stack. Ed > > > At the moment, I have been doing something like: > > FILE: Lookup.pm > ============= > package Lookup; > > sub new { > # blah blah blah > } > > sub find_user { > # blah blah blah > } > > > FILE: finduser.pl > ==================== > use Lookup; > > $users{"Joe"} = Lookup->new(183); > $users{"Bob"} = Lookup->new(184); > > foreach $user (sort keys $users) { > $users{$user}->find_user(); > } > > > Basically, I'm trying to combine Lookup.pm into finduser.pl so that I > just have a single file. > > What's the trick to get it done? > > Thanks!