You're all thinking it, so I'll say it. I meant BLURB, not BLURG. :-) Now, the results so far: 4 it's ok -- ORA supports Perl Mongers, so let them toot their horn every once in a while 7 just send a pointer and I'll read the whole blurb I want to 1 keep the messages to Perl only, please 0 other <>< Tim