From doug at veritablesoftware.com Thu Jun 7 09:39:00 2012 From: doug at veritablesoftware.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:39:00 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Reminder: Meeting 06/07/2012 7:00 PM In-Reply-To: <4FC825A2.7000102@veritablesoftware.com> References: <4FC825A2.7000102@veritablesoftware.com> Message-ID: <4FD0D924.2090604@veritablesoftware.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doug at veritablesoftware.com Thu Jun 28 11:24:46 2012 From: doug at veritablesoftware.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:24:46 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting Message-ID: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> All, As Dictator-in-Chief, I have decided to move July's meeting from the 5th to the 12th. Sorry for those of you who are inconvenienced by this, but I don't think attendance will be good on the day after a national holiday. You will be receiving the normal announcement emails as we get closer to the meeting date. That is all. From gnhill at liquidweb.com Thu Jun 28 11:36:39 2012 From: gnhill at liquidweb.com (Greg Hill) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:36:39 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting In-Reply-To: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> References: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> Message-ID: <4FECA437.7030902@liquidweb.com> I had originally planned on presenting about contributing to CPAN in July, but with the date move, I'll be out of town. So I guess put me down for August. It was originally going to focus more on getting an account and uploading the module, but since those things were so easy/quick, they'll be given a cursory overview and the majority of the focus will be on using Dist::Zilla to simplify packaging/releasing modules. I have some ideas for other presentations in the future: Using perlbrew/cpanminus to manage your perl versions/modules Profiling for great good (or the hidden costs you don't realize you have) - mostly about using Devel::NYTProf to analyze performance issues, but also a bit of railing about stupid design decisions in DBIx::Class specifically If any one of those sounds particularly interesting to people, I can start working on it sooner than later. Greg On 06/28/2012 11:24 AM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: > All, > > As Dictator-in-Chief, I have decided to move July's meeting from the > 5th to the 12th. Sorry for those of you who are inconvenienced by > this, but I don't think attendance will be good on the day after a > national holiday. You will be receiving the normal announcement emails > as we get closer to the meeting date. That is all. > > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm From lefthandskeletonkey at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 11:45:50 2012 From: lefthandskeletonkey at gmail.com (Erik Tank) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:45:50 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting In-Reply-To: <4FECA437.7030902@liquidweb.com> References: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> <4FECA437.7030902@liquidweb.com> Message-ID: <4FECA65E.50704@gmail.com> The Devel::NYTProff idea sounds very interesting - I'll be looking forward to that meeting. On 06/28/2012 11:36 AM, Greg Hill wrote: > I had originally planned on presenting about contributing to CPAN in > July, but with the date move, I'll be out of town. So I guess put me > down for August. It was originally going to focus more on getting an > account and uploading the module, but since those things were so > easy/quick, they'll be given a cursory overview and the majority of > the focus will be on using Dist::Zilla to simplify packaging/releasing > modules. > > I have some ideas for other presentations in the future: > > Using perlbrew/cpanminus to manage your perl versions/modules > Profiling for great good (or the hidden costs you don't realize you > have) - mostly about using Devel::NYTProf to analyze performance > issues, but also a bit of railing about stupid design decisions in > DBIx::Class specifically > > If any one of those sounds particularly interesting to people, I can > start working on it sooner than later. > > Greg > > On 06/28/2012 11:24 AM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: >> All, >> >> As Dictator-in-Chief, I have decided to move July's meeting from the >> 5th to the 12th. Sorry for those of you who are inconvenienced by >> this, but I don't think attendance will be good on the day after a >> national holiday. You will be receiving the normal announcement >> emails as we get closer to the meeting date. That is all. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phoenix-pm mailing list >> Phoenix-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm > > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm From doug at veritablesoftware.com Thu Jun 28 12:07:45 2012 From: doug at veritablesoftware.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:07:45 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting In-Reply-To: <4FECA65E.50704@gmail.com> References: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> <4FECA437.7030902@liquidweb.com> <4FECA65E.50704@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FECAB81.9030300@veritablesoftware.com> They all sound interesting to me. On 6/28/2012 11:45 AM, Erik Tank wrote: > The Devel::NYTProff idea sounds very interesting - I'll be looking > forward to that meeting. > > On 06/28/2012 11:36 AM, Greg Hill wrote: >> I had originally planned on presenting about contributing to CPAN in >> July, but with the date move, I'll be out of town. So I guess put me >> down for August. It was originally going to focus more on getting an >> account and uploading the module, but since those things were so >> easy/quick, they'll be given a cursory overview and the majority of >> the focus will be on using Dist::Zilla to simplify >> packaging/releasing modules. >> >> I have some ideas for other presentations in the future: >> >> Using perlbrew/cpanminus to manage your perl versions/modules >> Profiling for great good (or the hidden costs you don't realize you >> have) - mostly about using Devel::NYTProf to analyze performance >> issues, but also a bit of railing about stupid design decisions in >> DBIx::Class specifically >> >> If any one of those sounds particularly interesting to people, I can >> start working on it sooner than later. >> >> Greg >> >> On 06/28/2012 11:24 AM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> As Dictator-in-Chief, I have decided to move July's meeting from the >>> 5th to the 12th. Sorry for those of you who are inconvenienced by >>> this, but I don't think attendance will be good on the day after a >>> national holiday. You will be receiving the normal announcement >>> emails as we get closer to the meeting date. That is all. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phoenix-pm mailing list >>> Phoenix-pm at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phoenix-pm mailing list >> Phoenix-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm > > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm From doug at veritablesoftware.com Thu Jun 28 12:12:44 2012 From: doug at veritablesoftware.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:12:44 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting In-Reply-To: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> References: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> Message-ID: <4FECACAC.1000806@veritablesoftware.com> Maybe we should change this system of government to a corrupt democracy. You can all bribe me for meeting dates. :D Seriously, though, I'll offer up these three choices since the only replies I've gotten so far are from people who can't make it. 1. Keep the meeting on the 5th 2. Move the meeting to the 12th 3. Take the month off 4. All hail the dictator! I will send him large amounts of money! (The dictator now decrees that 4 == 3) I could move the meeting further, but then we start getting too close to the next month's meeting, and tends to become a problem for me. On 6/28/2012 11:24 AM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: > All, > > As Dictator-in-Chief, I have decided to move July's meeting from the > 5th to the 12th. Sorry for those of you who are inconvenienced by > this, but I don't think attendance will be good on the day after a > national holiday. You will be receiving the normal announcement emails > as we get closer to the meeting date. That is all. > > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gnhill at liquidweb.com Thu Jun 28 12:16:19 2012 From: gnhill at liquidweb.com (Greg Hill) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:16:19 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting In-Reply-To: <4FECACAC.1000806@veritablesoftware.com> References: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> <4FECACAC.1000806@veritablesoftware.com> Message-ID: <4FECAD83.4000504@liquidweb.com> I move that we provide free pizza at the meetings. Make it so! If we stick with the 5th, then I've got some work to do to get my presentation ready... so let's make a decision soon. Greg (seriously, I got this approved, pizza on Liquid Web's dime will be at the meetings from now on, all hail Liquid Web) On 06/28/2012 12:12 PM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: > Maybe we should change this system of government to a corrupt > democracy. You can all bribe me for meeting dates. :D > > Seriously, though, I'll offer up these three choices since the only > replies I've gotten so far are from people who can't make it. > > 1. Keep the meeting on the 5th > 2. Move the meeting to the 12th > 3. Take the month off > 4. All hail the dictator! I will send him large amounts of money! > (The dictator now decrees that 4 == 3) > > I could move the meeting further, but then we start getting too close > to the next month's meeting, and tends to become a problem for me. > > On 6/28/2012 11:24 AM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: >> All, >> >> As Dictator-in-Chief, I have decided to move July's meeting from the >> 5th to the 12th. Sorry for those of you who are inconvenienced by >> this, but I don't think attendance will be good on the day after a >> national holiday. You will be receiving the normal announcement >> emails as we get closer to the meeting date. That is all. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phoenix-pm mailing list >> Phoenix-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at tandika.com Thu Jun 28 12:18:07 2012 From: steve at tandika.com (Steve Baker) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:18:07 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting In-Reply-To: <4FECACAC.1000806@veritablesoftware.com> References: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> <4FECACAC.1000806@veritablesoftware.com> Message-ID: I am fine with the 5th, but if it is not be, I'll pine away^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H wait until August. On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: > Maybe we should change this system of government to a corrupt democracy. You > can all bribe me for meeting dates. :D > > Seriously, though, I'll offer up these three choices since the only replies > I've gotten so far are from people who can't make it. > > Keep the meeting on the 5th > Move the meeting to the 12th > Take the month off > All hail the dictator! I will send him large amounts of money! (The dictator > now decrees that 4 == 3) > > I could move the meeting further, but then we start getting too close to the > next month's meeting, and tends to become a problem for me. > > On 6/28/2012 11:24 AM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: > > All, > > As Dictator-in-Chief, I have decided to move July's meeting from the 5th to > the 12th. Sorry for those of you who are inconvenienced by this, but I don't > think attendance will be good on the day after a national holiday. You will > be receiving the normal announcement emails as we get closer to the meeting > date. That is all. > > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm -- Steve Baker kiku wa ittoki no haji kikanu wa matsudai no haji From bryan.m.lane at intel.com Thu Jun 28 13:08:37 2012 From: bryan.m.lane at intel.com (Lane, Bryan M) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:08:37 +0000 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting In-Reply-To: <4FECACAC.1000806@veritablesoftware.com> References: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> <4FECACAC.1000806@veritablesoftware.com> Message-ID: <414B6AF43FFFFC41B3D5F1637962833D0F29437C@FMSMSX102.amr.corp.intel.com> I say move the meeting. The presentation on Dist::Zilla would be interesting (the other presentations sound interesting too, but I just don't want the presentation to be forgotten because we had to move the date). My reasoning for voting to move the date is fairly simple: I will not be able to attend on the fifth. However, I'm not the one presenting on the 5th, so don't go by this vote if the majority can make it. I can always catch the youtube video. :) From: Phoenix-pm [mailto:phoenix-pm-bounces+bryan.m.lane=intel.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Douglas E. Miles Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:13 PM To: Phoenix.pm Subject: Re: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting Maybe we should change this system of government to a corrupt democracy. You can all bribe me for meeting dates. :D Seriously, though, I'll offer up these three choices since the only replies I've gotten so far are from people who can't make it. 1. Keep the meeting on the 5th 2. Move the meeting to the 12th 3. Take the month off 4. All hail the dictator! I will send him large amounts of money! (The dictator now decrees that 4 == 3) I could move the meeting further, but then we start getting too close to the next month's meeting, and tends to become a problem for me. On 6/28/2012 11:24 AM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: All, As Dictator-in-Chief, I have decided to move July's meeting from the 5th to the 12th. Sorry for those of you who are inconvenienced by this, but I don't think attendance will be good on the day after a national holiday. You will be receiving the normal announcement emails as we get closer to the meeting date. That is all. _______________________________________________ Phoenix-pm mailing list Phoenix-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doug at veritablesoftware.com Thu Jun 28 15:04:26 2012 From: doug at veritablesoftware.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:04:26 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting In-Reply-To: <4FECAD83.4000504@liquidweb.com> References: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> <4FECACAC.1000806@veritablesoftware.com> <4FECAD83.4000504@liquidweb.com> Message-ID: <4FECD4EA.1090503@veritablesoftware.com> All hail Liquid Web! If you want, let's count on me presenting in July. That way you don't have to be in a bind one way or the other. I'll just prepare as if the meeting is on the 5th (which means I have some work to do), and give people a few days to chime in. Sound good? On 6/28/2012 12:16 PM, Greg Hill wrote: > I move that we provide free pizza at the meetings. Make it so! > > If we stick with the 5th, then I've got some work to do to get my > presentation ready... so let's make a decision soon. > > Greg > > (seriously, I got this approved, pizza on Liquid Web's dime will be at > the meetings from now on, all hail Liquid Web) > > On 06/28/2012 12:12 PM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: >> Maybe we should change this system of government to a corrupt >> democracy. You can all bribe me for meeting dates. :D >> >> Seriously, though, I'll offer up these three choices since the only >> replies I've gotten so far are from people who can't make it. >> >> 1. Keep the meeting on the 5th >> 2. Move the meeting to the 12th >> 3. Take the month off >> 4. All hail the dictator! I will send him large amounts of money! >> (The dictator now decrees that 4 == 3) >> >> I could move the meeting further, but then we start getting too close >> to the next month's meeting, and tends to become a problem for me. >> >> On 6/28/2012 11:24 AM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> As Dictator-in-Chief, I have decided to move July's meeting from the >>> 5th to the 12th. Sorry for those of you who are inconvenienced by >>> this, but I don't think attendance will be good on the day after a >>> national holiday. You will be receiving the normal announcement >>> emails as we get closer to the meeting date. That is all. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phoenix-pm mailing list >>> Phoenix-pm at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phoenix-pm mailing list >> Phoenix-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From swessels at usgn.net Thu Jun 28 19:39:07 2012 From: swessels at usgn.net (Scott Wessels) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:39:07 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting In-Reply-To: <4FECD4EA.1090503@veritablesoftware.com> References: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> <4FECACAC.1000806@veritablesoftware.com> <4FECAD83.4000504@liquidweb.com> <4FECD4EA.1090503@veritablesoftware.com> Message-ID: <5af7a459-2800-465d-857e-35d7a1ebe23b@email.android.com> I wouldn't be in attendance for the 5th, but I would be for the 12th. Scott -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. "Douglas E. Miles" wrote: All hail Liquid Web! If you want, let's count on me presenting in July. That way you don't have to be in a bind one way or the other. I'll just prepare as if the meeting is on the 5th (which means I have some work to do), and give people a few days to chime in. Sound good? On 6/28/2012 12:16 PM, Greg Hill wrote: I move that we provide free pizza at the meetings. Make it so! If we stick with the 5th, then I've got some work to do to get my presentation ready... so let's make a decision soon. Greg (seriously, I got this approved, pizza on Liquid Web's dime will be at the meetings from now on, all hail Liquid Web) On 06/28/2012 12:12 PM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: Maybe we should change this system of government to a corrupt democracy. You can all bribe me for meeting dates. :D Seriously, though, I'll offer up these three choices since the only replies I've gotten so far are from people who can't make it. Keep the meeting on the 5thMove the meeting to the 12thTake the month offAll hail the dictator! I will send him large amounts of money! (The dictator now decrees that 4 == 3) I could move the meeting further, but then we start getting too close to the next month's meeting, and tends to become a problem for me. On 6/28/2012 11:24 AM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: All, As Dictator-in-Chief, I have decided to move July's meeting from the 5th to the 12th. Sorry for those of you who are inconvenienced by this, but I don't think attendance will be good on the day after a national holiday. You will be receiving the normal announcement emails as we get closer to the meeting date. That is all. _______________________________________________ Phoenix-pm mailing list Phoenix-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm _______________________________________________ Phoenix-pm mailing list Phoenix-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emmaus at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 20:55:50 2012 From: emmaus at gmail.com (John Jackson) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:55:50 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting In-Reply-To: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> References: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> Message-ID: <018001cd55ab$14778c40$3d66a4c0$@com> I'll be a dead fish and go with the flow. John Jackson -------------------------- Jesus is my Life! -----Original Message----- From: Phoenix-pm [mailto:phoenix-pm-bounces+emmaus=gmail.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Douglas E. Miles Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:25 AM To: Phoenix.pm Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting All, As Dictator-in-Chief, I have decided to move July's meeting from the 5th to the 12th. Sorry for those of you who are inconvenienced by this, but I don't think attendance will be good on the day after a national holiday. You will be receiving the normal announcement emails as we get closer to the meeting date. That is all. _______________________________________________ Phoenix-pm mailing list Phoenix-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm From emmaus at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 20:57:44 2012 From: emmaus at gmail.com (John Jackson) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:57:44 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting In-Reply-To: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> References: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> Message-ID: <018101cd55ab$585645f0$0902d1d0$@com> Actually, I take that back. I spoke before checking my calendar. I can't make it on the 12th, but I'll go with any other decision, especially if pizza is involved (can I bring my own beer?) John Jackson -------------------------- Jesus is my Life! -----Original Message----- From: Phoenix-pm [mailto:phoenix-pm-bounces+emmaus=gmail.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Douglas E. Miles Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:25 AM To: Phoenix.pm Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting All, As Dictator-in-Chief, I have decided to move July's meeting from the 5th to the 12th. Sorry for those of you who are inconvenienced by this, but I don't think attendance will be good on the day after a national holiday. You will be receiving the normal announcement emails as we get closer to the meeting date. That is all. _______________________________________________ Phoenix-pm mailing list Phoenix-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm From doug at veritablesoftware.com Fri Jun 29 15:45:32 2012 From: doug at veritablesoftware.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:45:32 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] July's Meeting In-Reply-To: <4FECD4EA.1090503@veritablesoftware.com> References: <4FECA16E.9050602@veritablesoftware.com> <4FECACAC.1000806@veritablesoftware.com> <4FECAD83.4000504@liquidweb.com> <4FECD4EA.1090503@veritablesoftware.com> Message-ID: <4FEE300C.9040908@veritablesoftware.com> OK, looks like we're going to take July off. Everyone have a great holiday and we'll see you in August! On 6/28/2012 3:04 PM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: > All hail Liquid Web! If you want, let's count on me presenting in > July. That way you don't have to be in a bind one way or the other. > I'll just prepare as if the meeting is on the 5th (which means I have > some work to do), and give people a few days to chime in. Sound good? > > On 6/28/2012 12:16 PM, Greg Hill wrote: >> I move that we provide free pizza at the meetings. Make it so! >> >> If we stick with the 5th, then I've got some work to do to get my >> presentation ready... so let's make a decision soon. >> >> Greg >> >> (seriously, I got this approved, pizza on Liquid Web's dime will be >> at the meetings from now on, all hail Liquid Web) >> >> On 06/28/2012 12:12 PM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: >>> Maybe we should change this system of government to a corrupt >>> democracy. You can all bribe me for meeting dates. :D >>> >>> Seriously, though, I'll offer up these three choices since the only >>> replies I've gotten so far are from people who can't make it. >>> >>> 1. Keep the meeting on the 5th >>> 2. Move the meeting to the 12th >>> 3. Take the month off >>> 4. All hail the dictator! I will send him large amounts of money! >>> (The dictator now decrees that 4 == 3) >>> >>> I could move the meeting further, but then we start getting too >>> close to the next month's meeting, and tends to become a problem for me. >>> >>> On 6/28/2012 11:24 AM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: >>>> All, >>>> >>>> As Dictator-in-Chief, I have decided to move July's meeting from >>>> the 5th to the 12th. Sorry for those of you who are inconvenienced >>>> by this, but I don't think attendance will be good on the day after >>>> a national holiday. You will be receiving the normal announcement >>>> emails as we get closer to the meeting date. That is all. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Phoenix-pm mailing list >>>> Phoenix-pm at pm.org >>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phoenix-pm mailing list >>> Phoenix-pm at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: