From awwaiid at thelackthereof.org Wed Jun 6 16:23:48 2007 From: awwaiid at thelackthereof.org (Brock) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 16:23:48 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Meeting today, wed june 6, 2007 @ 7:00pm Mill's End In-Reply-To: <20070530065639.GC11001@thelackthereof.org> References: <20070530065639.GC11001@thelackthereof.org> Message-ID: <20070606232347.GH15713@thelackthereof.org> Don't forget that we have a Phoenix.PM meeting today! Put on your Perl hats and bring us some code! --Brock | How does Wednesday June 6 @ 7:00pm @ Mill's End sound? We have plenty to | talk about -- Perl news, WWW::Mechanizing your life, Best Practices, ... | | Besides the fun technical topics I do have an announcement of my own - | I'm moving and thus must step down as the Phoenix.PM leaderish. Scott | can keep things going, but it would be nice to get ever more inspired | folk to randomly announce meetings and locations and get speakers and | such. Not that that sort of thing isn't _always_ welcome :) From perlguy at earthlink.net Wed Jun 6 16:31:47 2007 From: perlguy at earthlink.net (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:31:47 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Meeting today, wed june 6, 2007 @ 7:00pm Mill's End In-Reply-To: <20070606232347.GH15713@thelackthereof.org> References: <20070530065639.GC11001@thelackthereof.org> <20070606232347.GH15713@thelackthereof.org> Message-ID: <466743E3.1010105@earthlink.net> Brock wrote: > Don't forget that we have a Phoenix.PM meeting today! Put on your Perl > hats and bring us some code! > > I'm not going to make it, but I wanted to thank you for heading up the group! Where are you moving to? So, Scott is Dictator for Life now? I'm scared. :) > --Brock > > | How does Wednesday June 6 @ 7:00pm @ Mill's End sound? We have plenty to > | talk about -- Perl news, WWW::Mechanizing your life, Best Practices, ... > | > | Besides the fun technical topics I do have an announcement of my own - > | I'm moving and thus must step down as the Phoenix.PM leaderish. Scott > | can keep things going, but it would be nice to get ever more inspired > | folk to randomly announce meetings and locations and get speakers and > | such. Not that that sort of thing isn't _always_ welcome :) > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm > From derek at ninth.org Wed Jun 6 16:47:10 2007 From: derek at ninth.org (Derek Cline) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 16:47:10 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Meeting today, wed june 6, 2007 @ 7:00pm Mill's End In-Reply-To: <466743E3.1010105@earthlink.net> References: <20070530065639.GC11001@thelackthereof.org> <20070606232347.GH15713@thelackthereof.org> <466743E3.1010105@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <065B97CF-5425-4B01-8380-DEB890B9774E@ninth.org> I can't make it either, family event came up to see my wife off who's going to be spending the next six weeks in Miami for work. I know you're leaving too Brock, I was hoping to get to say goodbye in person. Are you still up for meeting for lunch here in downtown? You free tomorrow or Friday? Regards, -=Derek On Jun 6, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: > Brock wrote: >> Don't forget that we have a Phoenix.PM meeting today! Put on your >> Perl >> hats and bring us some code! >> >> > I'm not going to make it, but I wanted to thank you for heading up the > group! Where are you moving to? So, Scott is Dictator for Life now? > I'm scared. :) >> --Brock >> >> | How does Wednesday June 6 @ 7:00pm @ Mill's End sound? We have >> plenty to >> | talk about -- Perl news, WWW::Mechanizing your life, Best >> Practices, ... >> | >> | Besides the fun technical topics I do have an announcement of my >> own - >> | I'm moving and thus must step down as the Phoenix.PM leaderish. >> Scott >> | can keep things going, but it would be nice to get ever more >> inspired >> | folk to randomly announce meetings and locations and get >> speakers and >> | such. Not that that sort of thing isn't _always_ welcome :) >> _______________________________________________ >> Phoenix-pm mailing list >> Phoenix-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm >> > > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm From scott at illogics.org Wed Jun 6 15:51:15 2007 From: scott at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:51:15 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Meeting today, wed june 6, 2007 @ 7:00pm Mill's End In-Reply-To: <20070606232347.GH15713@thelackthereof.org> References: <20070530065639.GC11001@thelackthereof.org> <20070606232347.GH15713@thelackthereof.org> Message-ID: <20070606225115.GZ13078@slowass.net> Heading down in a bit here... Going to try to unload some of these books that were supposed to be given away to raise money for Andy's visit, but people aren't returning my emails, so I think that's a bust. Damn. As far as (Doug's query) whether I'm Eternal Dictator for Life, fraid not. I'm in limbo here too. Here's the picture, as I see it. We get a lot of first time visitors who never return. Perhaps they think that something wonderful (other than Perl knowhow) will be imparted on them during the meeting that will radically advance their career (without having to sharpen their Perl skills). Sometimes they come out for the presentations, but the presentations have to be pretty damn good to build up a following, and that's hard to sustain. There are a few semi-regulars who make about as many meetings as I do and have presented once or twice. It's good seeing them. Other groups in the valley related to Web tech or programming draw a lot more people, a lot more and more serious speakers, are better places for making connections, and better have their fingers on the pulse of emerging technologies. We should all stop being such a specialized spliter group and start going to REFRESH Phoenix, the Ruby User's Group, PLUG, and whatever else. When people are far more interested in tech, applications of tech, their careers and career prospects, and making connections with other programmers, it's irrelavent whether the meeting has a Perl theme or not. I suggest, however, keeping the mailing list. That's about the degree that area Perl developers really need to keep in touch with each other. And that might push us to move to a more virtual existance, fixing up the Website, getting blog aggregation going, and maybe some maps, or a database of employers -- the sorts of things people might actually use. Thoughts? Cheers, -scott On 0, Brock wrote: > Don't forget that we have a Phoenix.PM meeting today! Put on your Perl > hats and bring us some code! > > --Brock > > | How does Wednesday June 6 @ 7:00pm @ Mill's End sound? We have plenty to > | talk about -- Perl news, WWW::Mechanizing your life, Best Practices, ... > | > | Besides the fun technical topics I do have an announcement of my own - > | I'm moving and thus must step down as the Phoenix.PM leaderish. Scott > | can keep things going, but it would be nice to get ever more inspired > | folk to randomly announce meetings and locations and get speakers and > | such. Not that that sort of thing isn't _always_ welcome :) > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm From dwchandler at stilyagin.com Wed Jun 6 18:06:55 2007 From: dwchandler at stilyagin.com (Darrin Chandler) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 18:06:55 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Meeting today, wed june 6, 2007 @ 7:00pm Mill's End In-Reply-To: <20070606225115.GZ13078@slowass.net> References: <20070530065639.GC11001@thelackthereof.org> <20070606232347.GH15713@thelackthereof.org> <20070606225115.GZ13078@slowass.net> Message-ID: <20070607010655.GA31896@jeeves.stilyagin.com> On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 03:51:15PM -0700, Scott Walters wrote: > We get a lot of first time visitors who never return. Perhaps they > think that something wonderful (other than Perl knowhow) will be > imparted on them during the meeting that will radically advance their > career (without having to sharpen their Perl skills). Sometimes > they come out for the presentations, but the presentations have to > be pretty damn good to build up a following, and that's hard to > sustain. This sounds familiar... > Other groups in the valley related to Web tech or programming draw a lot > more people, a lot more and more serious speakers, are better places > for making connections, and better have their fingers on the pulse of > emerging technologies. Having attended a few meetings here and there, I can also say that some groups have horrid presentations, don't have their fingers on any pulse at all, and *still* manage to draw decent numbers because they're focused on something that's currently in the limelight. > We should all stop being such a specialized spliter group and start > going to REFRESH Phoenix, the Ruby User's Group, PLUG, and whatever > else. When people are far more interested in tech, applications of > tech, their careers and career prospects, and making connections > with other programmers, it's irrelavent whether the meeting has a > Perl theme or not. This is something I've discussed off and on with Hans (of PLUG fame). The Valley has a LOT of groups that SHOULD have some synergy. There are so many meetings going on that I've had to perform some triage, and the result is that I haven't made it to Phoenix.pm (and several other groups of note, and then a dozen more of at least some interest). From talking to others, I know I'm not alone here. Consider keeping Phoenix.pm alive. Consider "co-branding" events with other groups such as PLUG, PhxBUG, and LOPSA. We have some Perl people, and you have some BSD, Linux, and sysadmin people. There's a lot of crossover. Not long ago, I gave a presentation on writing daemons at the PLUG-Developers meeting. Now, I haven't actually used Linux in a while and haven't written any daemons for Linux in much longer. So my presentation was using BSD. It really didn't matter. People showed up. Something to think about, anyway. > I suggest, however, keeping the mailing list. That's about the > degree that area Perl developers really need to keep in touch with > each other. And that might push us to move to a more virtual > existance, fixing up the Website, getting blog aggregation going, > and maybe some maps, or a database of employers -- the sorts of > things people might actually use. In addition, Hans has renamed the GNU/Linux Stammtisch to, er, I forget exactly, but it's something like the Free Software Stammtisch. I think I may have had something to do with that. Anyway... this makes a handy social event, and everyone is invited. If even BSD people are welcome, Perlers would be doubly so. There's no structure, many or most bring laptops, and nobody would object if a hacking session happened. -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG dwchandler at stilyagin.com | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation From benjamin.trussell at asu.edu Wed Jun 6 18:49:45 2007 From: benjamin.trussell at asu.edu (Ben Trussell) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:49:45 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Meeting today, wed june 6, 2007 @ 7:00pm Mill's End In-Reply-To: <20070607010655.GA31896@jeeves.stilyagin.com> References: <20070530065639.GC11001@thelackthereof.org><20070606232347.GH15713@thelackthereof.org><20070606225115.GZ13078@slowass.net> <20070607010655.GA31896@jeeves.stilyagin.com> Message-ID: <46676439.2050607@asu.edu> Headed out the door now. 'll be a few minutes late. Ben Darrin Chandler wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 03:51:15PM -0700, Scott Walters wrote: > > We get a lot of first time visitors who never return. Perhaps they > > think that something wonderful (other than Perl knowhow) will be > > imparted on them during the meeting that will radically advance their > > career (without having to sharpen their Perl skills). Sometimes > > they come out for the presentations, but the presentations have to > > be pretty damn good to build up a following, and that's hard to > > sustain. > > This sounds familiar... > > > Other groups in the valley related to Web tech or programming draw a lot > > more people, a lot more and more serious speakers, are better places > > for making connections, and better have their fingers on the pulse of > > emerging technologies. > > Having attended a few meetings here and there, I can also say that some > groups have horrid presentations, don't have their fingers on any pulse > at all, and *still* manage to draw decent numbers because they're > focused on something that's currently in the limelight. > > > We should all stop being such a specialized spliter group and start > > going to REFRESH Phoenix, the Ruby User's Group, PLUG, and whatever > > else. When people are far more interested in tech, applications of > > tech, their careers and career prospects, and making connections > > with other programmers, it's irrelavent whether the meeting has a > > Perl theme or not. > > This is something I've discussed off and on with Hans (of PLUG fame). > The Valley has a LOT of groups that SHOULD have some synergy. There are > so many meetings going on that I've had to perform some triage, and the > result is that I haven't made it to Phoenix.pm (and several other groups > of note, and then a dozen more of at least some interest). From talking > to others, I know I'm not alone here. > > Consider keeping Phoenix.pm alive. Consider "co-branding" events with > other groups such as PLUG, PhxBUG, and LOPSA. We have some Perl people, > and you have some BSD, Linux, and sysadmin people. There's a lot of > crossover. Not long ago, I gave a presentation on writing daemons at the > PLUG-Developers meeting. Now, I haven't actually used Linux in a while > and haven't written any daemons for Linux in much longer. So my > presentation was using BSD. It really didn't matter. People showed up. > > Something to think about, anyway. > > > I suggest, however, keeping the mailing list. That's about the > > degree that area Perl developers really need to keep in touch with > > each other. And that might push us to move to a more virtual > > existance, fixing up the Website, getting blog aggregation going, > > and maybe some maps, or a database of employers -- the sorts of > > things people might actually use. > > In addition, Hans has renamed the GNU/Linux Stammtisch to, er, I forget > exactly, but it's something like the Free Software Stammtisch. I think I > may have had something to do with that. Anyway... this makes a handy > social event, and everyone is invited. If even BSD people are welcome, > Perlers would be doubly so. There's no structure, many or most bring > laptops, and nobody would object if a hacking session happened. > > -- > Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG > dwchandler at stilyagin.com | http://phxbug.org/ | > http://metabug.org/ > http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG > Federation > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm > From friedman at highwire.stanford.edu Wed Jun 6 21:29:48 2007 From: friedman at highwire.stanford.edu (Michael Friedman) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:29:48 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Meeting today, wed june 6, 2007 @ 7:00pm Mill's End In-Reply-To: <20070607010655.GA31896@jeeves.stilyagin.com> References: <20070530065639.GC11001@thelackthereof.org> <20070606232347.GH15713@thelackthereof.org> <20070606225115.GZ13078@slowass.net> <20070607010655.GA31896@jeeves.stilyagin.com> Message-ID: <5040C487-263A-4DFB-AF5D-43AAE4CE0CCA@highwire.stanford.edu> For what it's worth, here's the view from Silicon Valley. We've got something like the largest concentration of perl programmers in the country. SF.pm in San Francisco has a mailing list with between 100 to 200 people on it. And they only can manage a perlmongers meeting once every quarter at best. In general, people post other meetings to the mailing list and then a group of perlers meets there. As Darrin suggests, the Linux users' group and BSD users' group are the normal targets, but we also have something up here called a "Beer And Scripting SIG" that has a social meeting every month at a particular bar. If nothing perl-related is being presented at any of the other groups round about, the perlmongers default to meeting there. Half of BASS is using perl anyway, it's just that it isn't their focus. Were I still in Tempe, I'd still be a regular at Phoenix.pm meetings, but I must say I do appreciate the mailing list even though I've moved away. But I think that co-branding meetings is the way to keep the personal connection going for everyone and reduce the guilt everyone feels when there isn't a meeting, or there is a meeting, but only three people show up. Just my $.02. I hope the Phoenix.pm community stays together, even if only so I have an outlet for my really weird perl questions. -- Mike PS - Anyone know of an Atom Publishing Protocol Server written in Perl? On Jun 6, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 03:51:15PM -0700, Scott Walters wrote: >> We get a lot of first time visitors who never return. Perhaps they >> think that something wonderful (other than Perl knowhow) will be >> imparted on them during the meeting that will radically advance their >> career (without having to sharpen their Perl skills). Sometimes >> they come out for the presentations, but the presentations have to >> be pretty damn good to build up a following, and that's hard to >> sustain. > > This sounds familiar... > >> Other groups in the valley related to Web tech or programming draw >> a lot >> more people, a lot more and more serious speakers, are better places >> for making connections, and better have their fingers on the pulse of >> emerging technologies. > > Having attended a few meetings here and there, I can also say that > some > groups have horrid presentations, don't have their fingers on any > pulse > at all, and *still* manage to draw decent numbers because they're > focused on something that's currently in the limelight. > >> We should all stop being such a specialized spliter group and start >> going to REFRESH Phoenix, the Ruby User's Group, PLUG, and whatever >> else. When people are far more interested in tech, applications of >> tech, their careers and career prospects, and making connections >> with other programmers, it's irrelavent whether the meeting has a >> Perl theme or not. > > This is something I've discussed off and on with Hans (of PLUG fame). > The Valley has a LOT of groups that SHOULD have some synergy. There > are > so many meetings going on that I've had to perform some triage, and > the > result is that I haven't made it to Phoenix.pm (and several other > groups > of note, and then a dozen more of at least some interest). From > talking > to others, I know I'm not alone here. > > Consider keeping Phoenix.pm alive. Consider "co-branding" events with > other groups such as PLUG, PhxBUG, and LOPSA. We have some Perl > people, > and you have some BSD, Linux, and sysadmin people. There's a lot of > crossover. Not long ago, I gave a presentation on writing daemons > at the > PLUG-Developers meeting. Now, I haven't actually used Linux in a while > and haven't written any daemons for Linux in much longer. So my > presentation was using BSD. It really didn't matter. People showed up. > > Something to think about, anyway. > >> I suggest, however, keeping the mailing list. That's about the >> degree that area Perl developers really need to keep in touch with >> each other. And that might push us to move to a more virtual >> existance, fixing up the Website, getting blog aggregation going, >> and maybe some maps, or a database of employers -- the sorts of >> things people might actually use. > > In addition, Hans has renamed the GNU/Linux Stammtisch to, er, I > forget > exactly, but it's something like the Free Software Stammtisch. I > think I > may have had something to do with that. Anyway... this makes a handy > social event, and everyone is invited. If even BSD people are welcome, > Perlers would be doubly so. There's no structure, many or most bring > laptops, and nobody would object if a hacking session happened. > > -- > Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG > dwchandler at stilyagin.com | http://phxbug.org/ | http:// > metabug.org/ > http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG > Federation > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm --------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Friedman HighWire Press Phone: 650-725-1974 Stanford University FAX: 270-721-8034 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From wlindley at wlindley.com Mon Jun 25 12:34:44 2007 From: wlindley at wlindley.com (Bill Lindley) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:34:44 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Trivia In-Reply-To: <20070530065639.GC11001@thelackthereof.org> References: <20070530065639.GC11001@thelackthereof.org> Message-ID: <468018D4.8020806@wlindley.com> Which of the following is *not* a Perl 5 operator? a) += b) ^= c) ~= d) !~ \\/ http://www.wlindley.com From friedman at highwire.stanford.edu Mon Jun 25 15:08:42 2007 From: friedman at highwire.stanford.edu (Michael Friedman) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:08:42 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Trivia In-Reply-To: <468018D4.8020806@wlindley.com> References: <20070530065639.GC11001@thelackthereof.org> <468018D4.8020806@wlindley.com> Message-ID: <38E4068A-E353-4CE8-A7E5-AE2D928E2128@highwire.stanford.edu> Heh. Sneaky! Everyone should know this one. :-) -- Mike On Jun 25, 2007, at 12:34 PM, Bill Lindley wrote: > Which of the following is *not* a Perl 5 operator? > > a) += > b) ^= > c) ~= > d) !~ > > > \\/ > http://www.wlindley.com > > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm --------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Friedman HighWire Press Phone: 650-725-1974 Stanford University FAX: 270-721-8034 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From intertwingled at qwest.net Tue Jun 26 05:55:54 2007 From: intertwingled at qwest.net (Anthony R. Nemmer) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:55:54 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Trivia In-Reply-To: <38E4068A-E353-4CE8-A7E5-AE2D928E2128@highwire.stanford.edu> References: <20070530065639.GC11001@thelackthereof.org> <468018D4.8020806@wlindley.com> <38E4068A-E353-4CE8-A7E5-AE2D928E2128@highwire.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <46810CDA.5010001@qwest.net> Never fear. It will probably be a Perl 6 operator. Michael Friedman wrote: > Heh. Sneaky! > > Everyone should know this one. :-) > > -- Mike > > On Jun 25, 2007, at 12:34 PM, Bill Lindley wrote: > >> Which of the following is *not* a Perl 5 operator? >> >> a) += >> b) ^= >> c) ~= >> d) !~ >> >> >> \\/ >> http://www.wlindley.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phoenix-pm mailing list >> Phoenix-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael Friedman HighWire Press > Phone: 650-725-1974 Stanford University > FAX: 270-721-8034 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm > > -- I always have coffee when I watch radar! From scott at illogics.org Fri Jun 29 11:43:42 2007 From: scott at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:43:42 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] YAPC fallout! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070629184342.GL8685@slowass.net> Hi happy Perl people, Just back from YAPC! There were some incredibly funny talks and some very educational ones. This one was very education: > The Runops::Trace / code path lightning talk started as a message to > perl-qa at http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qa/2007/06/msg8754.html. > The slides are available at > http://diotalevi.isa-geek.net/~josh/code-coverage-awesomeness/slides/. > Data and report generation code is available in a tarball or adhoc at > http://diotalevi.isa-geek.net/~josh/code-coverage-awesomeness/. I'll forward these to the list as I see them and feel the inclination. -scott From scott at illogics.org Fri Jun 29 11:47:07 2007 From: scott at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:47:07 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Visualizing game AI Message-ID: <20070629184707.GM8685@slowass.net> http://pip.lbox.org/dvl/diag/ Pip works for a game development company apparently doing tools. He demo'd a Tk app that visualizes and edits decision making trees used in creature's AI. Not in the slides is a demo of a GL game with robo-monkeys running around throwing coconauts at each other, each with a different little personality. -scott From scott at illogics.org Fri Jun 29 11:55:29 2007 From: scott at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:55:29 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Continuity lightning talk Message-ID: <20070629185529.GN8685@slowass.net> Here's the slides... if audio turns up (there were no official recordings this year) I'll post it. http://slowass.net/~scott/continuity_lightning_talk.txt I used Brock's presentation software (in a modified form) at http://slowass.net/~scott/pres.html. It's meant for typing presentations up as you give them, at least partially, but I wound up not doing any of that, just showing pre-typed slides. No way to save them yet so I cut and paste the text out into a text file. Interesting, I'm sure ;) Anyway, I actually managed to show 40 slides in 300 seconds. It was kind of a presentation that you had to read and listen to at the same time ;) -scott From scott at illogics.org Fri Jun 29 12:00:29 2007 From: scott at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:00:29 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] YAPC photos! Message-ID: <20070629190029.GO8685@slowass.net> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=yapcna2007 =) From andy at petdance.com Fri Jun 29 13:22:16 2007 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:22:16 -0500 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] YAPC photos! In-Reply-To: <20070629190029.GO8685@slowass.net> References: <20070629190029.GO8685@slowass.net> Message-ID: On Jun 29, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Scott Walters wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=yapcna2007 Or better still, http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/yapcna2007/ -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance