[Phoenix-pm] job opening

Anthony Nemmer intertwingled at qwest.net
Mon Oct 4 15:20:47 CDT 2004


Quit yer bellyaching!

Scott Walters wrote:
> Let me put it this way. I had a very cool job in Minnesota before I moved
> down here 6 or 7 years ago. It didn't pay particularly well, but it was in a
> researchish environment in a University business incubator. My girlfriend
> got a good job down here that paid a lot of money. Let's just say she 
> wears the pants in the family now. I make enough consulting to pay my 
> private bills and expenses but not enough to afford a car or a laptop
> that doesn't suck ass. I've been trying to "grow" the business and the
> plan is to one day have her retire and me paying the bills. But consulting has only
> declined and they keep giving her promotions and raises. I took up consulting 
> projects to make the transitions between paying jobs easier as I got laid off 
> from each company I worked for (usually because they went out of business or
> came close, though I'm sure my attitude played a role in a few cases). In
> the case of Motorola, I resigned, essentially. I've worked for close to a dozen
> tech companies now and I honestly don't think I could stomach another one. 
> I'm staying busy enough I haven't quite gotten around to doing pr0n or
> serious Java projects, but I keep telling myself I can fall back on one of 
> those if need be. If I had more free time, I'd look into things like this, but 
> I'm massively underreporting my hours right now to encourage a flow of 
> business from the few clients I already havee. I've tried to get paper routes 
> and jobs like that to help with the bills and utterly failed. No one wants to 
> hire a 30 year old for a non-skilled job regardless of what the movies say.
> 
> -scott
> 
> 
> On  0, "Metz, Bobby W, WCS" <bwmetz at att.com> wrote:
> 
>>OK, I'll bite.  How "do" you pay the rent?  Hopefully it doesn't involve
>>any trips to Mill Ave.  ;-)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: phoenix-pm-bounces at mail.pm.org
>>[mailto:phoenix-pm-bounces at mail.pm.org]On Behalf Of Scott Walters
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:38 AM
>>To: Brock
>>Cc: phoenix-pm at pm.org
>>Subject: Re: [Phoenix-pm] job opening
>>
>>
>>If it's anything like ccbill.com, the first person to interview will
>>post a full account of what transpired ;)
>>
>>I might apply, but ya know, I'm so cynical at this stage of my life, 
>>the only real purpose I see to my attending events such as "work"
>>and "interviews" is to critique the inaness of it all by saying mean
>>things.
>>I guess that makes me a consultant. 
>>
>>Who was it that said "Since clients don't know what they need it's
>>surprising
>>that they know exactly when they need it"?
>>
>>Every worthwhile programming task was completed in the 1970's. The
>>switched
>>phone network was finished, airlines has their reservation systems
>>running,
>>Eliza was chatting up humans, humans were navigated to the moon and
>>back...
>>since then we've just been doing the same things on different scales for
>>different clients with any hope of code reuse yanked away by tech trends
>>and "IP", whereby the moon landing navigation sold to your competitor
>>or father isn't good enough for you, and your father or competitor's
>>moon landing software is too good for you. God damn humans.
>>
>>Seriously, I'm so badly traumitized by past employment I don't think
>>I could work in the tech sector again. It's my lot to sit at home and
>>eat ramen and write CPAN modules, sometimes pausing to guess where
>>rent might come from.
>>
>>-scott
>>
>>On  0, Brock <awwaiid at thelackthereof.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2004.10.05.08.19, David A. Sinck wrote:
>>>| The work will be helping to improve and customize what we already
>>
>>have
>>
>>>| in place as part of a team.
>>>| 
>>>| Further/deeper details available upon submitting a sufficient
>>>| interesting resume.  :-)  
>>>
>>>Ooo... mysterious. But not really appreciated. You wouldn't like it if
>>>we submitted resumes which were practically blank, and add
>>>"Further/deeper details available during interview", eh?
>>>
>>>OK, perhaps I'm being a bit unfair... but I think you get the point. I
>>>feel as if you are toying with us rather than providing us with a
>>>serious professional opprotunity. On the other hand, this seems to be
>>
>>a
>>
>>>pretty common practice. Being common doesn't make it Right though.
>>>
>>>--Brock
>>>
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