Phoenix.pm: Software Developer Needed

intertwingled intertwingled at qwest.net
Thu Oct 30 11:54:58 CST 2003


Jacob Powers wrote:

>Greeting all,
>
>	I would like to put some of these "concerns" to rest and clarify
>the position. First of we are "hunting" for new programmers due to
>expansion and growth, how many companies can say that these days.
>
Friend of mine at godaddy says that they are expanding, and also that 
the owner is a very pro-America guy and swears that he will not 
outsource programming/technical jobs to India or anywhere else.  Go, 
godaddy!

> We
>have an extremely low turnover and overall very happy employees. As
>Scott Walters stated, all techies are "very cool" here.
>
The weirdest stories I've heard about CCBill are the lunches.  Maybe you 
can expand on those. =)

> In fact it is
>the best group of people I have ever had the pleasure of working with.
>The current Engineering and Development area contains about 10
>programmers and 4 engineers. 
>	While we do require you to sign an I.P. clause it only applies
>to paying jobs. Meaning that if you want to work for somebody on the
>side you need our written consent, this is actually very standard. Open
>source development is fine, I do much myself, however the problem comes
>in when/if you develop something that competes with our products or uses
>concepts from our products. I think we would all agree that this is fair
>and understandable.
>
What if I am developing Open Source or GPL/LGPL software in my spare 
time so that I can contribute it to the open source community in 
general.  Would I be constrained from doing that by your I.P. clause?

Also, what if I develop a new algorithm while working for you that has 
applications in many industries/areas, not just CCBill.  In other words, 
it would benefit EVERYBODY.  Would CCBill want to retain I.P. rights to 
such an algorithm, or would they allow me to release it to the Open 
Source community so that all could benefit from it?

>  
>	Now regarding the position. It is a programming position, not
>and installation position. You would be writing code not distributing it
>to the sites. Being that we are a billing processor for internet
>websites we do have a large amount of adult natured sites.
>
"Who doesn't like porn?  In moderation anything is good"

   -- Goldmember, deleted scene

;-)

>As a
>programmer you will not see much of this but it is here and you must
>have no reservations about it. 
>
I guess that would be most of the Mormon population.  =P

>I encourage all interested applicants to
>email me any questions regarding the position or company. I will be
>posting this on mainstream sites soon, Monster etc, but want to post
>here first as I tend to find better applicants who truly love technology
>in communities such as this. 
>  
>
Thanks, Jacob.  On a personal note, I am severely bipolar, I hate 
cubicles and managers, I don't have a resume (resumes are entropic), I 
think that human resource departments are a waste of space, and 
generally I do my best work between 10 P.M. at night and 7 A.M. in the 
morning.  So I don't think I would fit in at CCBill.

Sincerely,

A Perlgrammer.

>Jacob Powers
>Project Manager
>CCBill.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: johnb [mailto:johngnub at cox.net] 
>Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 7:58 AM
>To: phoenix-pm-list at happyfunball.pm.org
>Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Software Developer Needed
>
>Some time ago I do recall that they where in the process of "hunting";
>It sounds like it ( they ) has suffered some turnover - as well as  
>other issues.
>
>2 cents...
>
>On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 12:55 AM, Scott Walters wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I interviewed with them. I think a few people - Doug and Kurt -
>>heard the story. Perhaps they have mellowed out a bit, but they wanted
>>me to sign a document that stated that I had no intellectual property,
>>and I assigned all of my IP to them. I got the interview partially  
>>because
>>of free software programming I had done, and when I asked about this,
>>they got their lawyers over to "help clarify", and surely enough, I
>>couldn't sign the contract because I would be making a false
>>    
>>
>statement,
>  
>
>>as I couldn't retract the code I've released.
>>
>>Anyone going down there should be aware of this and read the contracts
>>carefully and evaluate your priorities. If you keep your mouth shut,
>>there probably would be no problems, but a lot of people don't like
>>being "owned".
>>
>>It seemed like a really nice outfit with nice people. Techies are well
>>reguarded and respected in the company, and you'd have to see the
>>building - very artistic - and the other programmers and people on
>>tech support seemed very cool. This could be a great job for someone
>>more interested in the business side of software than the hobby side.
>>If you're thinking about it, pay a visit to their website. The
>>    
>>
>industry
>  
>
>>is interesting. Final note - if you set up a website that accepts
>>payments through ccbill, one of their tech guys (seperate bay
>>than the programmers, though I don't know which this post is for)
>>ssh's in and sets up the perl scripting for the webmaster, including
>>setting up the redirect, forms, and such. You may find yourself
>>working on websites you normally wouldn't be looking at.
>>
>>2 cents and that.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>-scott
>>
>>On  0, Jacob Powers <jpowers at ccbill.com> wrote:
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