Phoenix.pm: Tempe/East Vally PerlMongers Approved.

[Chris Krum]

>Re: people not returning, there are a lot of people we've seen
>once that are probably lurking on the list. I'm sure it is nothing
>personal, just that a bunch of middle aged white guys sitting
>around a conferance table ain't their idea of a good time =)

Hey, what's wrong with a "bunch of middle aged white guys sitting
around a conferance table"? I rather enjoyed my one visit. (Pardon me while
I scratch my Fuzzy Logic.) My problem is that I usually don't catch up with
my e-mail until the weekend so I finally hear about the Thursday meeting on
the Saturday after it's over. (Plus, during the summer I was riding the bus
because my beat up old bug doesn't have air conditioning.)

Would a virtual meeting of some kind work?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Walters" <scott at illogics.org>
To: "Douglas E. Miles" <doug at phoenixinternet.com>
Cc: <phoenix-pm-list at happyfunball.pm.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Tempe/East Vally PerlMongers Approved.


> Hey.
>
> Re: people not returning, there are a lot of people we've seen
> once that are probably lurking on the list. I'm sure it is nothing
> personal, just that a bunch of middle aged white guys sitting
> around a conferance table ain't their idea of a good time =)
>
> Re: Pablo and McAllester, McAllester and Goldfrab ran and
> run Contact Designs, whom I worked for quite a while. Before
> I signed on there, they did a deal with Pablo - I don't know
> the details - for "dosomething.org". I'm told it i a school
> related site for getting kids involved (in something, I
> don't know what, presumably not drugs and violence). They
> did it in mod_perl, as their first mod_perl site (having
> a persistant mod_perl fetish lasting through my stay there)
> and they, well, botched it. They asked for a lot of money
> and didn't deliver. Pablo and McAllester were mutually
> afraid of what the other would think of them, or something
> like that, the way I hear it. I don't think it was bad blood,
> just discomfort.
>
> Pablo was a nice guy. I miss seeing him around. McAllester
> finally gave up on development after running the guantlet
> of frustrations associated with it and as far as I know
> they just sell already written software, application
> service provider style. They found another cart that
> was less powerful and less flexible than mine but had a
> nice admin for setting up new stores and just tell clients
> now days that they can't have the things they want rather
> than quoting them a price and trying to deliver. There is
> something to be said for that, IMHO. Most attempts to write
> software are misguided, unless the only purpose is education.
>
> Re: moving the meetings around the valley, we were talking
> about doing that at one point but, uh, never quite got around to it.
>
> -scott
>
> On  0, "Douglas E. Miles" <doug at phoenixinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> > Scott Walters wrote:
> > > Hi other Scott,
> > >
> > > No, nothing like that. Phoenix PM is nothing worth fighting over ;)
> > >
> > > On the other hand, people have failed to return. That's far more
common.
> > > Not because they were mad at someone, as far as I know, but because
> > > something uncomfortable happened. Mcallester and Pablo come to
> > > mind. But even then, that's fairly rare.
> >
> > Hey, what's up with that?  I'm always the last to know.  What happened
> > to Pablo?  I don't remember McAllester.  (No offense if you're out
> > there.  I just have a bad memory.)  Reply off list if you'd rather.
> >
> > > We're all pretty tolerent. All you have to do is keep your hands
> > > to yourself when asked to do.
> > >
> > <snip>
> >
> >