From phaedrus at illogics.org Fri Feb 1 10:52:19 2002 From: phaedrus at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:38 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Quine for the day (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 06:18:55 -0700 (MST) From: Bill Lindley To: Scott Walters Subject: Quine for the day "Is without meaning" is without meaning From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Mon Feb 4 10:32:35 2002 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:38 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review Message-ID: <3C5EB7A3.6000207@bpxinternet.com> For those of you who haven't heard, The Perl Mongers are starting a new magazine. Here is the first issue: http://www.perl.org/ThePerlReview/ From lajandy at yahoo.com Mon Feb 4 13:18:27 2002 From: lajandy at yahoo.com (Andrew Johnson) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:38 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review In-Reply-To: <3C5EB7A3.6000207@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <20020204191827.25833.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> --- Doug Miles wrote: > For those of you who haven't heard, The Perl Mongers are starting a > new > magazine. Here is the first issue: > > http://www.perl.org/ThePerlReview/ > I'm skimmed through it some already. It is surprisingly large (40 pages), and what I've read so far is very informative. It definitely has potential... ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com From Craig.Frooninckx at acxiom.com Mon Feb 4 13:29:58 2002 From: Craig.Frooninckx at acxiom.com (Frooninckx Craig - cfroon) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:38 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review Message-ID: <6B681776AD07ED4EBEEA5D961E431088E60A39@phxmx02.Corp.Acxiom.net> Very nice, I actually prefer them to be on-line, get them sooner and print them if you want. -----Original Message----- From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:33 AM To: Phoenix.pm Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review For those of you who haven't heard, The Perl Mongers are starting a new magazine. Here is the first issue: http://www.perl.org/ThePerlReview/ ********************************************************************* The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. From billn at billn.net Mon Feb 4 01:05:19 2002 From: billn at billn.net (Bill Nash) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:38 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review In-Reply-To: <6B681776AD07ED4EBEEA5D961E431088E60A39@phxmx02.Corp.Acxiom.net> Message-ID: I haven't had a chance to look at it yet, but did they go a bit overboard with the first edition at all? Do you think it'll be hard to keep enough material going into further issues? Oh, hi, btw. I subbed late last week. I'm Bill Nash (the semi-notorious billn of #perl). Yes, I live in Phoenix (east valley), so please, don't panic. =) - billn On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > Very nice, I actually prefer them to be on-line, get them sooner and print > them if you want. > > -----Original Message----- > From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:33 AM > To: Phoenix.pm > Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review > > > For those of you who haven't heard, The Perl Mongers are starting a new > magazine. Here is the first issue: > > http://www.perl.org/ThePerlReview/ > > > ********************************************************************* > > The information contained in this communication is > confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient > named above, and may be legally privileged. > If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. > If you have received this communication in error, > please re-send this communication to the sender and > delete the original message or any copy of it from your > computer system. Thank You. > From phaedrus at illogics.org Mon Feb 4 15:16:47 2002 From: phaedrus at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:38 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bill, smack Pudge for me. Thanks ;) On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Bill Nash wrote: > > I haven't had a chance to look at it yet, but did they go a bit overboard > with the first edition at all? Do you think it'll be hard to keep enough > material going into further issues? > > Oh, hi, btw. I subbed late last week. I'm Bill Nash (the semi-notorious > billn of #perl). Yes, I live in Phoenix (east valley), so please, don't > panic. =) > > - billn > > > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > > > Very nice, I actually prefer them to be on-line, get them sooner and print > > them if you want. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:33 AM > > To: Phoenix.pm > > Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review > > > > > > For those of you who haven't heard, The Perl Mongers are starting a new > > magazine. Here is the first issue: > > > > http://www.perl.org/ThePerlReview/ > > > > > > ********************************************************************* > > > > The information contained in this communication is > > confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient > > named above, and may be legally privileged. > > If the reader of this message is not the intended > > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > > prohibited. > > If you have received this communication in error, > > please re-send this communication to the sender and > > delete the original message or any copy of it from your > > computer system. Thank You. > > > > From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Mon Feb 4 15:46:14 2002 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:38 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review References: Message-ID: <3C5F0126.6080703@bpxinternet.com> Bill Nash wrote: > I haven't had a chance to look at it yet, but did they go a bit overboard > with the first edition at all? Do you think it'll be hard to keep enough > material going into further issues? No, quite the contrary. It was a simple PDF with a few articles. They are attempting to "release early and release often" to bootstrap themselves into a dead tree version. > Oh, hi, btw. I subbed late last week. I'm Bill Nash (the semi-notorious > billn of #perl). Yes, I live in Phoenix (east valley), so please, don't > panic. =) > > - billn > > > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > > >>Very nice, I actually prefer them to be on-line, get them sooner and print >>them if you want. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] >>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:33 AM >>To: Phoenix.pm >>Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review >> >> >>For those of you who haven't heard, The Perl Mongers are starting a new >>magazine. Here is the first issue: >> >>http://www.perl.org/ThePerlReview/ >> >> >>********************************************************************* >> >>The information contained in this communication is >>confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient >>named above, and may be legally privileged. >>If the reader of this message is not the intended >>recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, >>distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly >>prohibited. >>If you have received this communication in error, >>please re-send this communication to the sender and >>delete the original message or any copy of it from your >>computer system. Thank You. >> >> > > From John.Bennett at schwab.com Mon Feb 4 15:56:54 2002 From: John.Bennett at schwab.com (Bennett, John) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review Message-ID: <8D3F682B0610D411874A00508B6FA88814FCF463@n2011pmx.nt.schwab.com> I live at 7th street and Unions Hills. Panic cause you life in East Valley? OK! PANIC,,,, Ok only kidding... -----Original Message----- From: Bill Nash [mailto:billn@billn.net] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 12:05 AM To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' Subject: RE: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review I haven't had a chance to look at it yet, but did they go a bit overboard with the first edition at all? Do you think it'll be hard to keep enough material going into further issues? Oh, hi, btw. I subbed late last week. I'm Bill Nash (the semi-notorious billn of #perl). Yes, I live in Phoenix (east valley), so please, don't panic. =) - billn On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > Very nice, I actually prefer them to be on-line, get them sooner and print > them if you want. > > -----Original Message----- > From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:33 AM > To: Phoenix.pm > Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review > > > For those of you who haven't heard, The Perl Mongers are starting a new > magazine. Here is the first issue: > > http://www.perl.org/ThePerlReview/ > > > ********************************************************************* > > The information contained in this communication is > confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient > named above, and may be legally privileged. > If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. > If you have received this communication in error, > please re-send this communication to the sender and > delete the original message or any copy of it from your > computer system. Thank You. > From phaedrus at illogics.org Mon Feb 4 15:57:59 2002 From: phaedrus at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review In-Reply-To: <3C5F0126.6080703@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: Isn't the Perl Journel having a rough time of it now? Isn't perlmonks.org a good forum for writting freeware articles? Isn't the perl community segmented right now? Don't we have 20 different versions of each module the most popular of which is huge and shows signs of age? Don't negitive disposed questions annoy you? On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Doug Miles wrote: > Bill Nash wrote: > > > I haven't had a chance to look at it yet, but did they go a bit overboard > > with the first edition at all? Do you think it'll be hard to keep enough > > material going into further issues? > > > No, quite the contrary. It was a simple PDF with a few articles. They > are attempting to "release early and release often" to bootstrap > themselves into a dead tree version. > > > > Oh, hi, btw. I subbed late last week. I'm Bill Nash (the semi-notorious > > billn of #perl). Yes, I live in Phoenix (east valley), so please, don't > > panic. =) > > > > - billn > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > > > > > >>Very nice, I actually prefer them to be on-line, get them sooner and print > >>them if you want. > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] > >>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:33 AM > >>To: Phoenix.pm > >>Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review > >> > >> > >>For those of you who haven't heard, The Perl Mongers are starting a new > >>magazine. Here is the first issue: > >> > >>http://www.perl.org/ThePerlReview/ > >> > >> > >>********************************************************************* > >> > >>The information contained in this communication is > >>confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient > >>named above, and may be legally privileged. > >>If the reader of this message is not the intended > >>recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > >>distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > >>prohibited. > >>If you have received this communication in error, > >>please re-send this communication to the sender and > >>delete the original message or any copy of it from your > >>computer system. Thank You. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > From billn at billn.net Mon Feb 4 02:32:41 2002 From: billn at billn.net (Bill Nash) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Scott Walters wrote: > > Bill, smack Pudge for me. Thanks ;) > One Smack-o-matic Hallmark card, coming up. Did you want to sign it? =) - billn From Craig.Frooninckx at acxiom.com Tue Feb 5 09:47:24 2002 From: Craig.Frooninckx at acxiom.com (Frooninckx Craig - cfroon) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review Message-ID: <6B681776AD07ED4EBEEA5D961E431088E60A3E@phxmx02.Corp.Acxiom.net> ~~? I'm not convinced that the absorption of TPJ into SysAdmin was a good thing, while I enjoy reading the SysAdmin articles quite a bit, I miss a beefy Perl Article that can cover all of the questions that you have (well, maybe not that last one, annoying questions is a touchy subject). -----Original Message----- From: Scott Walters [mailto:phaedrus@illogics.org] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 2:58 PM To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: The Perl Review Isn't the Perl Journel having a rough time of it now? Isn't perlmonks.org a good forum for writting freeware articles? Isn't the perl community segmented right now? Don't we have 20 different versions of each module the most popular of which is huge and shows signs of age? Don't negitive disposed questions annoy you? ********************************************************************* The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. From Craig.Frooninckx at acxiom.com Tue Feb 5 11:36:27 2002 From: Craig.Frooninckx at acxiom.com (Frooninckx Craig - cfroon) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object Message-ID: <6B681776AD07ED4EBEEA5D961E431088E60A41@phxmx02.Corp.Acxiom.net> I've written a small application that is suppose to go out and ping a server to verify that the network is still active between the local server and the remote server. When I do a command line ping it works fine, however, when I use the Net::Ping object, it reports that it is unable to access the remote server (in the code the remote server is actually the localserver). Can anyone see the bug?? -Craig SOURCE CODE: #!/usr/bin/perl -w # Application to check the availibility of production servers every hour. use strict; use Net::Ping; use Date::Format; while () { my $p = Net::Ping->new() or die "Can't create ping: $!\n"; my $time = time2str( "%X", time ); print "\nTime: $time\n"; my $host = "127.0.0.1"; print "Ping: ", $p->ping( $host ), "\n"; print "$host is responding!\n" if $p->ping( $host ); $p->close; sleep 60; }; __END__ RESULTS: cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping.pl Time: 10:32:20 Ping: 0 cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping 127.0.0.1 PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0 ms ----127.0.0.1 PING Statistics---- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 0/0/0 ms ******************************************************************** The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. From phaedrus at illogics.org Tue Feb 5 11:48:17 2002 From: phaedrus at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object In-Reply-To: <6B681776AD07ED4EBEEA5D961E431088E60A41@phxmx02.Corp.Acxiom.net> Message-ID: Net::Ping uses UDP by default. Real pings are ICMP (Internet Control Message Protocol). Is the machine running a firewall that discards UDP packets? >From the docs: Net::Ping->new([$proto [, $def_timeout [, $bytes]]]); Create a new ping object. All of the parameters are optional. $proto specifies the protocol to use when doing a ping. The current choices are "tcp", "udp" or "icmp". The default is "udp". so, you prolly want: my $ping = new Net::Ping qw(icmp); or something similiar... goodluck! -scott On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > I've written a small application that is suppose to go out and ping a server > to verify that the network is still active between the local server and the > remote server. When I do a command line ping it works fine, however, when I > use the Net::Ping object, it reports that it is unable to access the remote > server (in the code the remote server is actually the localserver). Can > anyone see the bug?? > > -Craig > > > SOURCE CODE: > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > > # Application to check the availibility of production servers every hour. > > use strict; > > use Net::Ping; > use Date::Format; > > while () { > my $p = Net::Ping->new() or die "Can't create ping: $!\n"; > my $time = time2str( "%X", time ); > print "\nTime: $time\n"; > my $host = "127.0.0.1"; > print "Ping: ", $p->ping( $host ), "\n"; > print "$host is responding!\n" if $p->ping( $host ); > $p->close; > sleep 60; > }; > > __END__ > > RESULTS: > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping.pl > > Time: 10:32:20 > Ping: 0 > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping 127.0.0.1 > PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0 ms > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0 ms > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > ----127.0.0.1 PING Statistics---- > 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss > round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 0/0/0 ms > > > ******************************************************************** > > The information contained in this communication is > confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient > named above, and may be legally privileged. > If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. > If you have received this communication in error, > please re-send this communication to the sender and > delete the original message or any copy of it from your > computer system. Thank You. > > From sinck at ugive.com Tue Feb 5 12:06:22 2002 From: sinck at ugive.com (David A. Sinck) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object References: <6B681776AD07ED4EBEEA5D961E431088E60A41@phxmx02.Corp.Acxiom.net> Message-ID: <15456.7966.430481.483612@owmyeye.ugive.com> You might need root to do it; ping is suid. \_ SMTP quoth Frooninckx Craig - cfroon on 2/5/2002 10:36 as having spake thusly: \_ \_ I've written a small application that is suppose to go out and ping a server \_ to verify that the network is still active between the local server and the \_ remote server. When I do a command line ping it works fine, however, when I \_ use the Net::Ping object, it reports that it is unable to access the remote \_ server (in the code the remote server is actually the localserver). Can \_ anyone see the bug?? \_ \_ -Craig \_ \_ \_ SOURCE CODE: \_ #!/usr/bin/perl -w \_ \_ # Application to check the availibility of production servers every hour. \_ \_ use strict; \_ \_ use Net::Ping; \_ use Date::Format; \_ \_ while () { \_ my $p = Net::Ping->new() or die "Can't create ping: $!\n"; \_ my $time = time2str( "%X", time ); \_ print "\nTime: $time\n"; \_ my $host = "127.0.0.1"; \_ print "Ping: ", $p->ping( $host ), "\n"; \_ print "$host is responding!\n" if $p->ping( $host ); \_ $p->close; \_ sleep 60; \_ }; \_ \_ __END__ \_ \_ RESULTS: \_ cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping.pl \_ \_ Time: 10:32:20 \_ Ping: 0 \_ cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping 127.0.0.1 \_ PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes \_ 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0 ms \_ 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0 ms \_ 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0 ms \_ \_ \_ ----127.0.0.1 PING Statistics---- \_ 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss \_ round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 0/0/0 ms \_ \_ \_ ******************************************************************** \_ \_ The information contained in this communication is \_ confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient \_ named above, and may be legally privileged. \_ If the reader of this message is not the intended \_ recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, \_ distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly \_ prohibited. \_ If you have received this communication in error, \_ please re-send this communication to the sender and \_ delete the original message or any copy of it from your \_ computer system. Thank You. From Craig.Frooninckx at acxiom.com Tue Feb 5 12:57:13 2002 From: Craig.Frooninckx at acxiom.com (Frooninckx Craig - cfroon) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object Message-ID: <6B681776AD07ED4EBEEA5D961E431088E60A44@phxmx02.Corp.Acxiom.net> CONCLUSION: icmp works, however I have to run the script as root for it to work. The default doesn't work even as root, and icmp doesn't work as a user. I still feel like something is missing, but that hunt can wait for another day (bah haha). -----Original Message----- From: Scott Walters [mailto:phaedrus@illogics.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:48 AM To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object Net::Ping uses UDP by default. Real pings are ICMP (Internet Control Message Protocol). Is the machine running a firewall that discards UDP packets? >From the docs: Net::Ping->new([$proto [, $def_timeout [, $bytes]]]); Create a new ping object. All of the parameters are optional. $proto specifies the protocol to use when doing a ping. The current choices are "tcp", "udp" or "icmp". The default is "udp". so, you prolly want: my $ping = new Net::Ping qw(icmp); or something similiar... goodluck! -scott On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > I've written a small application that is suppose to go out and ping a server > to verify that the network is still active between the local server and the > remote server. When I do a command line ping it works fine, however, when I > use the Net::Ping object, it reports that it is unable to access the remote > server (in the code the remote server is actually the localserver). Can > anyone see the bug?? > > -Craig > > > SOURCE CODE: > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > > # Application to check the availibility of production servers every hour. > > use strict; > > use Net::Ping; > use Date::Format; > > while () { > my $p = Net::Ping->new() or die "Can't create ping: $!\n"; > my $time = time2str( "%X", time ); > print "\nTime: $time\n"; > my $host = "127.0.0.1"; > print "Ping: ", $p->ping( $host ), "\n"; > print "$host is responding!\n" if $p->ping( $host ); > $p->close; > sleep 60; > }; > > __END__ > > RESULTS: > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping.pl > > Time: 10:32:20 > Ping: 0 > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping 127.0.0.1 > PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0 ms > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0 ms > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > ----127.0.0.1 PING Statistics---- > 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss > round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 0/0/0 ms > > > ******************************************************************** > > The information contained in this communication is > confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient > named above, and may be legally privileged. > If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. > If you have received this communication in error, > please re-send this communication to the sender and > delete the original message or any copy of it from your > computer system. Thank You. > > From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Tue Feb 5 15:13:11 2002 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 Message-ID: <3C604AE7.3010408@bpxinternet.com> We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 7th at 7:00PM. It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. Scott will be presenting about P2P (peer-to-peer) topics. -- - Doug From billn at billn.net Tue Feb 5 01:33:31 2002 From: billn at billn.net (Bill Nash) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object In-Reply-To: <6B681776AD07ED4EBEEA5D961E431088E60A41@phxmx02.Corp.Acxiom.net> Message-ID: If memory serves correctly (I'm a few years out from having used Net::Ping), it looks like you're missing the timeout value, which, if undefined, could result in the package reporting the host unreachable because the response time is > 0. - billn On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > I've written a small application that is suppose to go out and ping a server > to verify that the network is still active between the local server and the > remote server. When I do a command line ping it works fine, however, when I > use the Net::Ping object, it reports that it is unable to access the remote > server (in the code the remote server is actually the localserver). Can > anyone see the bug?? > > -Craig > > > SOURCE CODE: > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > > # Application to check the availibility of production servers every hour. > > use strict; > > use Net::Ping; > use Date::Format; > > while () { > my $p = Net::Ping->new() or die "Can't create ping: $!\n"; > my $time = time2str( "%X", time ); > print "\nTime: $time\n"; > my $host = "127.0.0.1"; > print "Ping: ", $p->ping( $host ), "\n"; > print "$host is responding!\n" if $p->ping( $host ); > $p->close; > sleep 60; > }; > > __END__ > > RESULTS: > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping.pl > > Time: 10:32:20 > Ping: 0 > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping 127.0.0.1 > PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0 ms > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0 ms > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > ----127.0.0.1 PING Statistics---- > 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss > round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 0/0/0 ms > > > ******************************************************************** > > The information contained in this communication is > confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient > named above, and may be legally privileged. > If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. > If you have received this communication in error, > please re-send this communication to the sender and > delete the original message or any copy of it from your > computer system. Thank You. > From Craig.Frooninckx at acxiom.com Tue Feb 5 16:14:58 2002 From: Craig.Frooninckx at acxiom.com (Frooninckx Craig - cfroon) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object Message-ID: <6B681776AD07ED4EBEEA5D961E431088E60A45@phxmx02.Corp.Acxiom.net> I thought of that as well and tried it with 5, which is what the documentation says is the default if you don't put anything in for timeout (second argument on the new method or the ping method). -----Original Message----- From: Bill Nash [mailto:billn@billn.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:34 AM To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object If memory serves correctly (I'm a few years out from having used Net::Ping), it looks like you're missing the timeout value, which, if undefined, could result in the package reporting the host unreachable because the response time is > 0. - billn On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > I've written a small application that is suppose to go out and ping a server > to verify that the network is still active between the local server and the > remote server. When I do a command line ping it works fine, however, when I > use the Net::Ping object, it reports that it is unable to access the remote > server (in the code the remote server is actually the localserver). Can > anyone see the bug?? > > -Craig > > > SOURCE CODE: > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > > # Application to check the availibility of production servers every hour. > > use strict; > > use Net::Ping; > use Date::Format; > > while () { > my $p = Net::Ping->new() or die "Can't create ping: $!\n"; > my $time = time2str( "%X", time ); > print "\nTime: $time\n"; > my $host = "127.0.0.1"; > print "Ping: ", $p->ping( $host ), "\n"; > print "$host is responding!\n" if $p->ping( $host ); > $p->close; > sleep 60; > }; > > __END__ > > RESULTS: > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping.pl > > Time: 10:32:20 > Ping: 0 > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping 127.0.0.1 > PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0 ms > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0 ms > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > ----127.0.0.1 PING Statistics---- > 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss > round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 0/0/0 ms > > > ******************************************************************** > > The information contained in this communication is > confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient > named above, and may be legally privileged. > If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. > If you have received this communication in error, > please re-send this communication to the sender and > delete the original message or any copy of it from your > computer system. Thank You. > From phaedrus at illogics.org Tue Feb 5 16:24:39 2002 From: phaedrus at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object In-Reply-To: <6B681776AD07ED4EBEEA5D961E431088E60A45@phxmx02.Corp.Acxiom.net> Message-ID: Take a look at the source code... by default it sends a UDP packet... TCP, if you contact a closed port, a packet with the reset bit is sent back, and your telnet client tells you "Connection refused". With UDP, there is no such thing. The packet is ignored. I'm wonder how the author of this module thinks he can use UDP as a ping? If the machine is up, nothing comes back. If the machine is down, well, you know. TCP would make more sence... On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > I thought of that as well and tried it with 5, which is what the > documentation says is the default if you don't put anything in for timeout > (second argument on the new method or the ping method). > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Nash [mailto:billn@billn.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:34 AM > To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' > Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object > > > > If memory serves correctly (I'm a few years out from having used > Net::Ping), it looks like you're missing the timeout value, which, if > undefined, could result in the package reporting the host unreachable > because the response time is > 0. > > - billn > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > > > I've written a small application that is suppose to go out and ping a > server > > to verify that the network is still active between the local server and > the > > remote server. When I do a command line ping it works fine, however, when > I > > use the Net::Ping object, it reports that it is unable to access the > remote > > server (in the code the remote server is actually the localserver). Can > > anyone see the bug?? > > > > -Craig > > > > > > SOURCE CODE: > > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > > > > # Application to check the availibility of production servers every hour. > > > > use strict; > > > > use Net::Ping; > > use Date::Format; > > > > while () { > > my $p = Net::Ping->new() or die "Can't create ping: $!\n"; > > my $time = time2str( "%X", time ); > > print "\nTime: $time\n"; > > my $host = "127.0.0.1"; > > print "Ping: ", $p->ping( $host ), "\n"; > > print "$host is responding!\n" if $p->ping( $host ); > > $p->close; > > sleep 60; > > }; > > > > __END__ > > > > RESULTS: > > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping.pl > > > > Time: 10:32:20 > > Ping: 0 > > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping 127.0.0.1 > > PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > > > > ----127.0.0.1 PING Statistics---- > > 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss > > round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 0/0/0 ms > > > > > > ******************************************************************** > > > > The information contained in this communication is > > confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient > > named above, and may be legally privileged. > > If the reader of this message is not the intended > > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > > prohibited. > > If you have received this communication in error, > > please re-send this communication to the sender and > > delete the original message or any copy of it from your > > computer system. Thank You. > > > From billn at billn.net Tue Feb 5 02:57:50 2002 From: billn at billn.net (Bill Nash) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object In-Reply-To: <6B681776AD07ED4EBEEA5D961E431088E60A45@phxmx02.Corp.Acxiom.net> Message-ID: Ah, okay. Other than that, standard root perms apply to the icmp sockets. You have to run it as root, either suid or otherwise. I did an entire monitoring suite using ICMP based probes, and it was a veritable nightmare, especially from a security standpoint. If you find yourself gravitating toward a solution of this type, I beg you, reconsider. =) - billn On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > I thought of that as well and tried it with 5, which is what the > documentation says is the default if you don't put anything in for timeout > (second argument on the new method or the ping method). > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Nash [mailto:billn@billn.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:34 AM > To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' > Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object > > > > If memory serves correctly (I'm a few years out from having used > Net::Ping), it looks like you're missing the timeout value, which, if > undefined, could result in the package reporting the host unreachable > because the response time is > 0. > > - billn > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > > > I've written a small application that is suppose to go out and ping a > server > > to verify that the network is still active between the local server and > the > > remote server. When I do a command line ping it works fine, however, when > I > > use the Net::Ping object, it reports that it is unable to access the > remote > > server (in the code the remote server is actually the localserver). Can > > anyone see the bug?? > > > > -Craig > > > > > > SOURCE CODE: > > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > > > > # Application to check the availibility of production servers every hour. > > > > use strict; > > > > use Net::Ping; > > use Date::Format; > > > > while () { > > my $p = Net::Ping->new() or die "Can't create ping: $!\n"; > > my $time = time2str( "%X", time ); > > print "\nTime: $time\n"; > > my $host = "127.0.0.1"; > > print "Ping: ", $p->ping( $host ), "\n"; > > print "$host is responding!\n" if $p->ping( $host ); > > $p->close; > > sleep 60; > > }; > > > > __END__ > > > > RESULTS: > > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping.pl > > > > Time: 10:32:20 > > Ping: 0 > > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping 127.0.0.1 > > PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > > > > ----127.0.0.1 PING Statistics---- > > 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss > > round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 0/0/0 ms > > > > > > ******************************************************************** > > > > The information contained in this communication is > > confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient > > named above, and may be legally privileged. > > If the reader of this message is not the intended > > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > > prohibited. > > If you have received this communication in error, > > please re-send this communication to the sender and > > delete the original message or any copy of it from your > > computer system. Thank You. > > > From billn at billn.net Tue Feb 5 03:12:42 2002 From: billn at billn.net (Bill Nash) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ICMP ping uses the 'echo' function. ICMP packets themselves are UDP. >From /etc/services on a *nix box near you: echo 7/tcp echo 7/udp The details are in the implementation. =) - billn On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Scott Walters wrote: > > Take a look at the source code... by default it sends a UDP packet... > TCP, if you contact a closed port, a packet with the reset bit is sent > back, and your telnet client tells you "Connection refused". With UDP, > there is no such thing. The packet is ignored. I'm wonder how the author > of this module thinks he can use UDP as a ping? If the machine is up, > nothing comes back. If the machine is down, well, you know. TCP would > make more sence... > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > > > I thought of that as well and tried it with 5, which is what the > > documentation says is the default if you don't put anything in for timeout > > (second argument on the new method or the ping method). > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bill Nash [mailto:billn@billn.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:34 AM > > To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' > > Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object > > > > > > > > If memory serves correctly (I'm a few years out from having used > > Net::Ping), it looks like you're missing the timeout value, which, if > > undefined, could result in the package reporting the host unreachable > > because the response time is > 0. > > > > - billn > > > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > > > > > I've written a small application that is suppose to go out and ping a > > server > > > to verify that the network is still active between the local server and > > the > > > remote server. When I do a command line ping it works fine, however, when > > I > > > use the Net::Ping object, it reports that it is unable to access the > > remote > > > server (in the code the remote server is actually the localserver). Can > > > anyone see the bug?? > > > > > > -Craig > > > > > > > > > SOURCE CODE: > > > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > > > > > > # Application to check the availibility of production servers every hour. > > > > > > use strict; > > > > > > use Net::Ping; > > > use Date::Format; > > > > > > while () { > > > my $p = Net::Ping->new() or die "Can't create ping: $!\n"; > > > my $time = time2str( "%X", time ); > > > print "\nTime: $time\n"; > > > my $host = "127.0.0.1"; > > > print "Ping: ", $p->ping( $host ), "\n"; > > > print "$host is responding!\n" if $p->ping( $host ); > > > $p->close; > > > sleep 60; > > > }; > > > > > > __END__ > > > > > > RESULTS: > > > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping.pl > > > > > > Time: 10:32:20 > > > Ping: 0 > > > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping 127.0.0.1 > > > PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > > > > > > > ----127.0.0.1 PING Statistics---- > > > 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss > > > round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 0/0/0 ms > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************** > > > > > > The information contained in this communication is > > > confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient > > > named above, and may be legally privileged. > > > If the reader of this message is not the intended > > > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > > > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > > > prohibited. > > > If you have received this communication in error, > > > please re-send this communication to the sender and > > > delete the original message or any copy of it from your > > > computer system. Thank You. > > > > > > From phaedrus at illogics.org Tue Feb 5 17:38:00 2002 From: phaedrus at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bill, I hate disagreeing with people, and don't mean to nitpick, but ICMP is a seperate protocol, that is part of the TCP/IP suite (protocol number 0, incidientally), as are TCP and UDP. ICMP pings (eg, with the ping command) does not generate UDP traffic. You can replicate this by running "tcpdump udp" then pinning that host from another host. Conversely, "tcpdump icmp" will be very chatty =) At the risk of being one of those annying know-it-alls, I hope this clears things up a bit... -scott On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Bill Nash wrote: > > ICMP ping uses the 'echo' function. ICMP packets themselves are UDP. > > >From /etc/services on a *nix box near you: > echo 7/tcp > echo 7/udp > > The details are in the implementation. =) > > - billn > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Scott Walters wrote: > > > > > Take a look at the source code... by default it sends a UDP packet... > > TCP, if you contact a closed port, a packet with the reset bit is sent > > back, and your telnet client tells you "Connection refused". With UDP, > > there is no such thing. The packet is ignored. I'm wonder how the author > > of this module thinks he can use UDP as a ping? If the machine is up, > > nothing comes back. If the machine is down, well, you know. TCP would > > make more sence... > > > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > > > > > I thought of that as well and tried it with 5, which is what the > > > documentation says is the default if you don't put anything in for timeout > > > (second argument on the new method or the ping method). > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bill Nash [mailto:billn@billn.net] > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:34 AM > > > To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' > > > Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object > > > > > > > > > > > > If memory serves correctly (I'm a few years out from having used > > > Net::Ping), it looks like you're missing the timeout value, which, if > > > undefined, could result in the package reporting the host unreachable > > > because the response time is > 0. > > > > > > - billn > > > > > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > > > > > > > I've written a small application that is suppose to go out and ping a > > > server > > > > to verify that the network is still active between the local server and > > > the > > > > remote server. When I do a command line ping it works fine, however, when > > > I > > > > use the Net::Ping object, it reports that it is unable to access the > > > remote > > > > server (in the code the remote server is actually the localserver). Can > > > > anyone see the bug?? > > > > > > > > -Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > SOURCE CODE: > > > > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > > > > > > > > # Application to check the availibility of production servers every hour. > > > > > > > > use strict; > > > > > > > > use Net::Ping; > > > > use Date::Format; > > > > > > > > while () { > > > > my $p = Net::Ping->new() or die "Can't create ping: $!\n"; > > > > my $time = time2str( "%X", time ); > > > > print "\nTime: $time\n"; > > > > my $host = "127.0.0.1"; > > > > print "Ping: ", $p->ping( $host ), "\n"; > > > > print "$host is responding!\n" if $p->ping( $host ); > > > > $p->close; > > > > sleep 60; > > > > }; > > > > > > > > __END__ > > > > > > > > RESULTS: > > > > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping.pl > > > > > > > > Time: 10:32:20 > > > > Ping: 0 > > > > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping 127.0.0.1 > > > > PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > > > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > > > > > > > > > > ----127.0.0.1 PING Statistics---- > > > > 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss > > > > round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 0/0/0 ms > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************** > > > > > > > > The information contained in this communication is > > > > confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient > > > > named above, and may be legally privileged. > > > > If the reader of this message is not the intended > > > > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > > > > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > > > > prohibited. > > > > If you have received this communication in error, > > > > please re-send this communication to the sender and > > > > delete the original message or any copy of it from your > > > > computer system. Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > From eden.li at asu.edu Tue Feb 5 18:24:44 2002 From: eden.li at asu.edu (Eden Li) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object References: Message-ID: <008601c1aea4$ad5457e0$3914a8c0@wulong> nitpicky is fine as long as you don't become a tom christensen :) eden From: "Scott Walters" > I hate disagreeing with people, and don't mean to nitpick, but > ICMP is a seperate protocol, that is part of the TCP/IP suite > (protocol number 0, incidientally), as are TCP and UDP. ICMP pings > (eg, with the ping command) does not generate UDP traffic. You > can replicate this by running "tcpdump udp" then pinning that host > from another host. Conversely, "tcpdump icmp" will be very chatty =) > At the risk of being one of those annying know-it-alls, I hope > this clears things up a bit... From billn at billn.net Tue Feb 5 05:23:04 2002 From: billn at billn.net (Bill Nash) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ugh, my bad. I spend too much time with traceroute tools. This is one of those days where I should just go back to bed and pray for tomorrow to come faster. Stop me before I code again. - billn On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Scott Walters wrote: > > Bill, > > I hate disagreeing with people, and don't mean to nitpick, but > ICMP is a seperate protocol, that is part of the TCP/IP suite > (protocol number 0, incidientally), as are TCP and UDP. ICMP pings > (eg, with the ping command) does not generate UDP traffic. You > can replicate this by running "tcpdump udp" then pinning that host > from another host. Conversely, "tcpdump icmp" will be very chatty =) > At the risk of being one of those annying know-it-alls, I hope > this clears things up a bit... > > -scott > > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Bill Nash wrote: > > > > > ICMP ping uses the 'echo' function. ICMP packets themselves are UDP. > > > > >From /etc/services on a *nix box near you: > > echo 7/tcp > > echo 7/udp > > > > The details are in the implementation. =) > > > > - billn > > > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Scott Walters wrote: > > > > > > > > Take a look at the source code... by default it sends a UDP packet... > > > TCP, if you contact a closed port, a packet with the reset bit is sent > > > back, and your telnet client tells you "Connection refused". With UDP, > > > there is no such thing. The packet is ignored. I'm wonder how the author > > > of this module thinks he can use UDP as a ping? If the machine is up, > > > nothing comes back. If the machine is down, well, you know. TCP would > > > make more sence... > > > > > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > > > > > > > I thought of that as well and tried it with 5, which is what the > > > > documentation says is the default if you don't put anything in for timeout > > > > (second argument on the new method or the ping method). > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Bill Nash [mailto:billn@billn.net] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:34 AM > > > > To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' > > > > Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Net::Ping Object > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If memory serves correctly (I'm a few years out from having used > > > > Net::Ping), it looks like you're missing the timeout value, which, if > > > > undefined, could result in the package reporting the host unreachable > > > > because the response time is > 0. > > > > > > > > - billn > > > > > > > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Frooninckx Craig - cfroon wrote: > > > > > > > > > I've written a small application that is suppose to go out and ping a > > > > server > > > > > to verify that the network is still active between the local server and > > > > the > > > > > remote server. When I do a command line ping it works fine, however, when > > > > I > > > > > use the Net::Ping object, it reports that it is unable to access the > > > > remote > > > > > server (in the code the remote server is actually the localserver). Can > > > > > anyone see the bug?? > > > > > > > > > > -Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOURCE CODE: > > > > > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > > > > > > > > > > # Application to check the availibility of production servers every hour. > > > > > > > > > > use strict; > > > > > > > > > > use Net::Ping; > > > > > use Date::Format; > > > > > > > > > > while () { > > > > > my $p = Net::Ping->new() or die "Can't create ping: $!\n"; > > > > > my $time = time2str( "%X", time ); > > > > > print "\nTime: $time\n"; > > > > > my $host = "127.0.0.1"; > > > > > print "Ping: ", $p->ping( $host ), "\n"; > > > > > print "$host is responding!\n" if $p->ping( $host ); > > > > > $p->close; > > > > > sleep 60; > > > > > }; > > > > > > > > > > __END__ > > > > > > > > > > RESULTS: > > > > > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping.pl > > > > > > > > > > Time: 10:32:20 > > > > > Ping: 0 > > > > > cfroon@gsgatlas: /usr/users/cfroon/Perl => ping 127.0.0.1 > > > > > PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > > > > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > > > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0 ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----127.0.0.1 PING Statistics---- > > > > > 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss > > > > > round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 0/0/0 ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > The information contained in this communication is > > > > > confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient > > > > > named above, and may be legally privileged. > > > > > If the reader of this message is not the intended > > > > > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > > > > > distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > > > > > prohibited. > > > > > If you have received this communication in error, > > > > > please re-send this communication to the sender and > > > > > delete the original message or any copy of it from your > > > > > computer system. Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From tran_fors at yahoo.com Wed Feb 6 01:12:46 2002 From: tran_fors at yahoo.com (Tran Forsythe) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 References: <3C604AE7.3010408@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <004601c1aedd$ae814f40$0401a8c0@dario> > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 7th at 7:00PM. Wheee... I'm glad I checked my email tonight rather than tomorrow night ;) I'll be there if I can ;) -Kurt _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From phaedrus at illogics.org Wed Feb 6 09:52:17 2002 From: phaedrus at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 In-Reply-To: <004601c1aedd$ae814f40$0401a8c0@dario> Message-ID: Does any have, or has anyone read the O'Reilly P2P book? I'm curious if it's any good... On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Tran Forsythe wrote: > > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 7th at 7:00PM. > > Wheee... I'm glad I checked my email tonight rather than tomorrow night ;) > I'll be there if I can ;) > > -Kurt > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From nishfish at yahoo.com Wed Feb 6 18:14:54 2002 From: nishfish at yahoo.com (N) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: UNIX-Microsoft SQL server connection In-Reply-To: <003001c1a952$ffa80b60$0201a8c0@poria1.az.home.com> Message-ID: <20020207001454.81605.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> HI I was wondering what PERL module I could use to load a UNIX flat text data file into a SQL Server database running on a Windows Server. Alternatively, are there FREE unix-windows ODBC drivers available that you might be aware of? THanks Rgds Nishant __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com From phaedrus at illogics.org Wed Feb 6 18:39:59 2002 From: phaedrus at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: UNIX-Microsoft SQL server connection In-Reply-To: <20020207001454.81605.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm going to chip in with my 2 cents even though I'm not a Windows user... First, DBI has a DBD::ODBC module that it uses. DBI is just an interface to different DBD:: modules, so that all databases have the same interface to the program. It should be able to connect to any ODBC database. The docs say it handles MS-SQL without problems. I don't know which database you are using. Will work with Oracle, DB2 etc also, but other databases have faster specialized more powerful interfaces. Info on DBD::ODBC and WIn32::ODBC... http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.6.1/lib/DBI/FAQ.html#3.2-What's-the-difference-between-Win32--ODBC-and-DBD--ODBC- DBD::ADO might be cool: http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.6.1/lib/DBD/ADO.html $dbh = DBI->connect('DBD:ODBC', $username, $auth, \%attr); $sth = $dbh->prepare(qq{ insert into table (field, otherField, someOtherField) values (?, ?, ?) }); open $f, "file" or die $!; while(<$f>) { $rv = $sth->execute(split, /("?),\1/, $_); } close $f; ... you'll have to fill in a lot of stuff there... what to split the columns on, login info for the database, whatever DBD:ODBC says you should use for the first arg of DBI->connect, names of the columns, number of columns, name of the table... feel free to hack it up, and if you get stuck, post it back to the list (without the password and username in the first line), and well take a look at it.. -scott On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, N wrote: > HI > I was wondering what PERL module I could use to load a > UNIX flat text data file into a SQL Server database > running on a Windows Server. > Alternatively, are there FREE unix-windows ODBC > drivers available that you might be aware of? > THanks > Rgds > Nishant > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > From billn at billn.net Wed Feb 6 19:30:04 2002 From: billn at billn.net (Bill Nash) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: UNIX-Microsoft SQL server connection In-Reply-To: <20020207001454.81605.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: DBI+Msql is the first thing that comes to mind. I believe there's a set of ODBC drivers for DBI as well. - billn On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, N wrote: > HI > I was wondering what PERL module I could use to load a > UNIX flat text data file into a SQL Server database > running on a Windows Server. > Alternatively, are there FREE unix-windows ODBC > drivers available that you might be aware of? > THanks > Rgds > Nishant > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > From tran_fors at yahoo.com Thu Feb 7 00:42:29 2002 From: tran_fors at yahoo.com (Tran Forsythe) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 References: Message-ID: <000d01c1afa2$9dae67a0$0401a8c0@dario> > Wheee... I'm glad I checked my email tonight rather than tomorrow night ;) > I'll be there if I can ;) *mutter* Sorry, Scott, I would've loved to attend; something came up. -Kurt _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From nishfish at yahoo.com Thu Feb 7 09:20:31 2002 From: nishfish at yahoo.com (N) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: UNIX-Microsoft SQL server connection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020207152031.91621.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Bill THe DBI+Msql you were referring to, where do i get it from? thanks Nishant __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Thu Feb 7 11:05:15 2002 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 Message-ID: <3C62B3CB.2030207@bpxinternet.com> Please RSVP... We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 7th at 7:00PM. It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. Scott will be presenting about P2P (peer-to-peer) topics. -- - Doug From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM Thu Feb 7 11:40:24 2002 From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 Message-ID: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF2503B3F98F@tef00021.vitalps.com> I shall be there! -----Original Message----- From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:05 AM To: Phoenix.pm Cc: Rose Keys Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 Please RSVP... We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 7th at 7:00PM. It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. Scott will be presenting about P2P (peer-to-peer) topics. -- - Doug From whitneyt at agcs.com Thu Feb 7 11:50:16 2002 From: whitneyt at agcs.com (Thomas Whitney) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 References: <3C62B3CB.2030207@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <3C62BE58.65B1F2C4@agcs.com> Ill be there. Tom Doug Miles wrote: > Please RSVP... > > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 7th at 7:00PM. > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. > > Scott will be presenting about P2P (peer-to-peer) topics. > -- > - Doug From Craig.Frooninckx at acxiom.com Thu Feb 7 11:40:37 2002 From: Craig.Frooninckx at acxiom.com (Frooninckx Craig - cfroon) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 Message-ID: <6B681776AD07ED4EBEEA5D961E431088E60A6D@phxmx02.Corp.Acxiom.net> I plan on attending, let's see if reality will cooperate. -----Original Message----- From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:05 AM To: Phoenix.pm Cc: Rose Keys Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 Please RSVP... We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 7th at 7:00PM. It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. Scott will be presenting about P2P (peer-to-peer) topics. -- - Doug ******************************************************************** The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank You. From lajandy at yahoo.com Thu Feb 7 16:22:54 2002 From: lajandy at yahoo.com (Andrew Johnson) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 In-Reply-To: <3C62B3CB.2030207@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <20020207222254.92885.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> I plan to attend. --- Doug Miles wrote: > Please RSVP... > > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 7th at > 7:00PM. > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The > parking > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the > lot > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of > McDowell. > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main > lobby, > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. > > Scott will be presenting about P2P (peer-to-peer) topics. > -- > - Doug > > > > > > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com From phaedrus at illogics.org Thu Feb 7 17:25:08 2002 From: phaedrus at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 In-Reply-To: <20020207222254.92885.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I plan to attend as well ;) I expect to be on time. On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Andrew Johnson wrote: > I plan to attend. > > --- Doug Miles wrote: > > Please RSVP... > > > > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 7th at > > 7:00PM. > > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, > > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The > > parking > > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the > > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the > > lot > > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of > > McDowell. > > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main > > lobby, > > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. > > > > Scott will be presenting about P2P (peer-to-peer) topics. > > -- > > - Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > From phaedrus at illogics.org Sat Feb 9 13:01:42 2002 From: phaedrus at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 In-Reply-To: <3C604AE7.3010408@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: Everyone, esp those who wouldn't make it... http://www.slowass.net/gnumb/ has the source code. I'm going to fix the gnumb.pl domain for this project. If anyone has any input (advice on code, bug fixes, or anything else) let me know. When I get this stablized, I'm going to encourage people who want to contribute to Gnutella network without actually serving potentially copyrighted files to run it as a search cache daemon. Anyway, thanks again for everyone who sat through the lecture. I hope it wasn't too dry, boring, opinionated, technical, etc. Perl Mongers has to suffer with me as a practice my public speaker. Any feedback on that also very welcome ;) -scott From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM Mon Feb 11 11:53:20 2002 From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 Message-ID: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF2503B3F9A1@tef00021.vitalps.com> Scott, I tried to download the file, and there is an error saying I don't have permission. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Scott Walters [mailto:phaedrus@illogics.org] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:02 PM To: Phoenix.pm Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 Everyone, esp those who wouldn't make it... http://www.slowass.net/gnumb/ has the source code. I'm going to fix the gnumb.pl domain for this project. If anyone has any input (advice on code, bug fixes, or anything else) let me know. When I get this stablized, I'm going to encourage people who want to contribute to Gnutella network without actually serving potentially copyrighted files to run it as a search cache daemon. Anyway, thanks again for everyone who sat through the lecture. I hope it wasn't too dry, boring, opinionated, technical, etc. Perl Mongers has to suffer with me as a practice my public speaker. Any feedback on that also very welcome ;) -scott From phaedrus at illogics.org Mon Feb 11 12:10:13 2002 From: phaedrus at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 In-Reply-To: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF2503B3F9A1@tef00021.vitalps.com> Message-ID: Bryan -- Ack, thanks for pointing that out. It was trying to run it as a cgi script but didn't have execute set and shouldn't... renamed it to gnumb.perl, I was able to download it. There will be another version up soon, btw. -scott On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Bryan Lane wrote: > Scott, > > I tried to download the file, and there is an error saying I don't have > permission. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Walters [mailto:phaedrus@illogics.org] > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:02 PM > To: Phoenix.pm > Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 > > > > Everyone, esp those who wouldn't make it... > > http://www.slowass.net/gnumb/ has the source code. I'm going to > fix the gnumb.pl domain for this project. If anyone has any > input (advice on code, bug fixes, or anything else) let me know. > When I get this stablized, I'm going to encourage people who > want to contribute to Gnutella network without actually > serving potentially copyrighted files to run it as a search > cache daemon. Anyway, thanks again for everyone who sat through > the lecture. I hope it wasn't too dry, boring, opinionated, > technical, etc. Perl Mongers has to suffer with me as a > practice my public speaker. Any feedback on that also very > welcome ;) > > -scott > > > From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM Mon Feb 11 13:55:26 2002 From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 Message-ID: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF2503B3F9A2@tef00021.vitalps.com> Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Scott Walters [mailto:phaedrus@illogics.org] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 11:10 AM To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' Subject: RE: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 Bryan -- Ack, thanks for pointing that out. It was trying to run it as a cgi script but didn't have execute set and shouldn't... renamed it to gnumb.perl, I was able to download it. There will be another version up soon, btw. -scott On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Bryan Lane wrote: > Scott, > > I tried to download the file, and there is an error saying I don't have > permission. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Walters [mailto:phaedrus@illogics.org] > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:02 PM > To: Phoenix.pm > Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/07/2002 > > > > Everyone, esp those who wouldn't make it... > > http://www.slowass.net/gnumb/ has the source code. I'm going to > fix the gnumb.pl domain for this project. If anyone has any > input (advice on code, bug fixes, or anything else) let me know. > When I get this stablized, I'm going to encourage people who > want to contribute to Gnutella network without actually > serving potentially copyrighted files to run it as a search > cache daemon. Anyway, thanks again for everyone who sat through > the lecture. I hope it wasn't too dry, boring, opinionated, > technical, etc. Perl Mongers has to suffer with me as a > practice my public speaker. Any feedback on that also very > welcome ;) > > -scott > > > From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Mon Feb 18 16:44:24 2002 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/21/2002 Message-ID: <3C7183C8.60405@bpxinternet.com> We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 21st at 7:00PM. It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. I will be presenting Function::Conditional, which gives the user the ablility to put conditions on the execution of a function at run time. If there is time, I'll have something else to present too (haven't figured out what yet). -- - Doug From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM Wed Feb 20 11:47:44 2002 From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/21/2002 Message-ID: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF2503B3F9BB@tef00021.vitalps.com> I'll be there! -----Original Message----- From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 3:44 PM To: Phoenix.pm Cc: Rose Keys Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/21/2002 We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 21st at 7:00PM. It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. I will be presenting Function::Conditional, which gives the user the ablility to put conditions on the execution of a function at run time. If there is time, I'll have something else to present too (haven't figured out what yet). -- - Doug From whitneyt at agcs.com Wed Feb 20 12:23:20 2002 From: whitneyt at agcs.com (Thomas Whitney) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/21/2002 References: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF2503B3F9BB@tef00021.vitalps.com> Message-ID: <3C73E998.AE855CA3@agcs.com> Me too Tom Bryan Lane wrote: > I'll be there! > > -----Original Message----- > From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 3:44 PM > To: Phoenix.pm > Cc: Rose Keys > Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/21/2002 > > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 21st at 7:00PM. > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. > > I will be presenting Function::Conditional, which gives the user the > ablility to put conditions on the execution of a function at run time. > If there is time, I'll have something else to present too (haven't > figured out what yet). > > -- > - Doug From John.Bennett at schwab.com Wed Feb 20 17:47:13 2002 From: John.Bennett at schwab.com (Bennett, John) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/21/2002 Message-ID: <8D3F682B0610D411874A00508B6FA88814FCF4EA@n2011pmx.nt.schwab.com> JB votes! I'll do my best to be there! JB -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Lane [mailto:Bryan.Lane@VITALPS.COM] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:48 AM To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' Subject: RE: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/21/2002 I'll be there! -----Original Message----- From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 3:44 PM To: Phoenix.pm Cc: Rose Keys Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/21/2002 We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 21st at 7:00PM. It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. I will be presenting Function::Conditional, which gives the user the ablility to put conditions on the execution of a function at run time. If there is time, I'll have something else to present too (haven't figured out what yet). -- - Doug From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Thu Feb 21 13:08:41 2002 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/21/2002 Message-ID: <3C7545B9.9040102@bpxinternet.com> Please RSVP if you haven't already... We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 21st at 7:00PM. It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. I will be presenting Function::Conditional, which gives the user the ablility to put conditions on the execution of a function at run time. If there is time, I'll have something else to present too (haven't figured out what yet). -- - Doug From whitneyt at agcs.com Thu Feb 21 18:11:23 2002 From: whitneyt at agcs.com (Tom Whitney) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/21/2002 References: <3C7545B9.9040102@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <3C758CAB.7E19486@agcs.com> Change of plans. I don't think I am going to be able to make it this time. I am probably going to be stuck at work. Tom Doug Miles wrote: > Please RSVP if you haven't already... > > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 21st at 7:00PM. > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. > > I will be presenting Function::Conditional, which gives the user the > ablility to put conditions on the execution of a function at run time. > If there is time, I'll have something else to present too (haven't > figured out what yet). > > -- > - Doug From syz at broken-bit.com Thu Feb 21 16:43:13 2002 From: syz at broken-bit.com (Lowell Hamilton) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 02/21/2002 In-Reply-To: <3C758CAB.7E19486@agcs.com> References: <3C7545B9.9040102@bpxinternet.com> <3C758CAB.7E19486@agcs.com> Message-ID: <1014331393.30731.43.camel@syz.broken-bit.com> Me too (well stuck at home working) .. I'll aim for next time though. Lowell -- : Lowell Hamilton syz@b r o k e n - b i t . c o m : : Linux OpenBSD IDS/firewall Security QMail Perl : On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 19:11, Tom Whitney wrote: > Change of plans. I don't think I am going to be able to make it this time. > I am probably going to be stuck at work. > > Tom > > Doug Miles wrote: > > > Please RSVP if you haven't already... > > > > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, February 21st at 7:00PM. > > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, > > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking > > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the > > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot > > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. > > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, > > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. > > > > I will be presenting Function::Conditional, which gives the user the > > ablility to put conditions on the execution of a function at run time. > > If there is time, I'll have something else to present too (haven't > > figured out what yet). > > > > -- > > - Doug From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Fri Feb 22 14:17:04 2002 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Templating system example Message-ID: <3C76A740.5080205@bpxinternet.com> Bill, I'm sorry that I cut off you showing your sample site using your templating system. We got off on a tangent, and I forgot. :( Feel free to post to the list, or send it to me. Also if you want to present it, let me know. From phaedrus at illogics.org Thu Feb 28 14:52:03 2002 From: phaedrus at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:39 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: SSSCA Message-ID: Hi, this is a news brief from Scott-News. First: Mail your opinions on this to: investor-relations@cisco.com andy_grove@intel.com toontown@disney.com Intel invester relations... Phone: (408)765-1480 I'm still trying to work out email addresses for Disney and Intel. Legend has it, Intel hates email. Deservedly negitive public feedback *does* have a large impact on corporate policy makers. Adope dropped their complaint against Dmitry, etc. For those of you who don't follow politics, SSSCA would completely outlaw Linux. Hardware and software manufacturers would be required to include goverment mandated copy controls in anything capable of playing, read, or copying digital media. This includes computers. It is not possible to include secure digital controls in Linux as long as the source is available and the tools to compile it. This is why DVDs were never supported under Linux legally, and had to be cracked before they were. Doing away with peoples access to their own hardware and software would do away with any non-commercial innovation. Will this pass? Probably not. Will we feel really stupid if it does pass and we didn't go on record warning of the ill consequences? Yup. Second: Care of EFF: SENATE HEARINGS THIS WEEK ON DRAMATIC NEW DIGITAL CONTROLS SSSCA HEARING, THU. FEB. 28 Electronic Frontier Foundation Media Advisory For Immediate Release: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 Washington, DC - This Thursday, February 28th, the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation will hold hearings on draft legislation, the Security Systems Standards and Certification Act (SSSCA). Sponsored by U.S. Senator Fritz Hollings (D-SC) and Ted Stevens (R-AK), SSSCA would require government mandated copy prevention technology in future digital devices that would give Hollywood control over how consumers can use digital content. Senate hearings had originally been scheduled for October 25, 2001, but were indefinitely postponed after much public opposition to the proposed legislation. Thursday's re-scheduled hearing will allow testimony only from major copyright holders and electronics companies; no public interest or consumer rights groups have been invited to provide input on the draft legislation on how information may be used in a digital environment. Witness List: Panel I: Mr. Michael D. Eisner, Chairman and CEO, The Walt Disney Company Mr. Peter Chernin, President and Chief Operating Officer, News Corporation Mr. Leslie L. Vadasz, Executive Vice President, Intel Corporation Panel II: Mr. Andreas Bechtolsheim, General Manager/Vice President of the Gigabit Systems Business Unit, Cisco Systems Inc. Mr. James E. Meyer, Special Advisor to the Chairman and formerly Senior Vice President and Chief Operating Officer, Thomson Multimedia Mr. Robert Perry, Vice President, Marketing, Mitsubishi Digital Electronics America, Inc. Info on hearings: Chair: Sen. Hollings to preside Feb. 28, 2002, 9:30 a.m. ET. Title: "Protecting Content in the Digital Age" Location: Hearings will be held in Room 253, Russell Senate Office Building (unless otherwise noted), Delaware and Constitution Avenues, North East District, Washington, DC 20510 Links U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science & Transportation announcement of hearings: http://commerce.senate.gov/press/107-159.html Further reading: http://www.bigbrotherinside.org