From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Mon May  1 08:49:27 2000
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/04/2000 - Please note that this is Thurs.
Message-ID: <390D8B67.92666177@bpxinternet.com>

I thought I'd try having a meeting on a Thursday, to see if it might be
better for some.  My idea right now is to have the first Thursday of the
month, and the 3rd Tuesday.  Give me some feedback!

We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thurday, May 4th at 7:00PM. It will
be held at The Willow House, which is located at 149 W. McDowell Rd.,
which is just a block west of Bowne.

-- 
For a list of the ways which technology has failed
to improve our quality of life, press 3.

From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Mon May  1 09:09:58 2000
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: HTML::Parser weirdness
References: <Pine.BSD.4.20.0004251606051.117-100000@nebuchadnezzar>
Message-ID: <390D9036.BA505161@bpxinternet.com>

Scott Walters wrote:
> 
> Hi all, Doug..
> 
> [Btw, from previous message, Hall Kinion is a headhunter, and not an
> outstanding one at that].
> 
> If 'E0' was showing up, I would have a guess, but I see no significance to
> 'A0'... If you're still battling this, post sources and let us have a go!
> 
> -scott
> 
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Douglas E. Miles wrote:
> 
> > Anyone out there using HTML::Parser?  I'm using it to extract just text
> > from HTML files.  The strange thing is that hex A0 keeps showing up in
> > the extracted text, but does not appear in the original file.  Right
> > now, I using a regex to filter them out, but I'd like to understand
> > where they're coming from, and why.  Any ideas?  Thanks.

Sorry this took so long.  I've just been completely buried recently. 
Here is an example that comes with HTML::Parser, that I've hacked to
show the problem.  Attached is the program, htext, and a test html file,
admin.html.  Just type htext admin.html > admin.txt (after making it
executable), and you will see AOs in admin.txt.

-- 
- Doug

"A synonym is a word you use when you can't spell the 
word you first thought of."
--Burt Bacharach
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#!/usr/bin/perl -w

# Extract all plain text from an HTML file

use strict;
use HTML::Parser 3.00 ();
my $text;


my %inside;

sub tag
{
   my($tag, $num) = @_;
   $inside{$tag} += $num;
   print " ";  # not for all tags
}

sub text
{
    return if $inside{script} || $inside{style};

    $text .= $_[0];
    #print $_[0];
    print $text;
}

HTML::Parser->new(api_version => 3,
		  handlers    => [start => [\&tag, "tagname, '+1'"],
				  end   => [\&tag, "tagname, '-1'"],
				  text  => [\&text, "dtext"],
				 ],
		  marked_sections => 1,
	)->parse_file(shift) || die "Can't open file: $!\n";
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From forsythe at primenet.com  Mon May  1 23:37:48 2000
From: forsythe at primenet.com (Tran Forsythe)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/04/2000 - Please note that this is Thurs.
References: <390D8B67.92666177@bpxinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000b01bfb3f0$2c511ee0$0100a8c0@tran>


*shrug* Sure, I'm up for it.  The only times I miss are usually because I'm
too fatigued, and not due to other commitments.

-Kurt

------

"Push to test."
<click>
"Release to detonate."
-Brad Morrison




From Beaves at aol.com  Tue May  2 09:16:45 2000
From: Beaves at aol.com (Beaves@aol.com)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/04/2000 - Please note that this is Thurs.
Message-ID: <9a.43b73e2.26403d4d@aol.com>

I'm not flying on Thursday and can make it.  I'll see yoous guys dere.

From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM  Tue May  2 11:19:56 2000
From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/04/2000 - Please note that this is Thu
	rs.
Message-ID: <B07FA0A1A91FD211985800805FA76EC602DC223B@TEF00001.vitalps.com>

I'll try to be there.  Generally speaking, Thursday is a better day for me
anyway.

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas E. Miles [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 6:49 AM
To: Phoenix.pm
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/04/2000 - Please note that this is
Thurs.


I thought I'd try having a meeting on a Thursday, to see if it might be
better for some.  My idea right now is to have the first Thursday of the
month, and the 3rd Tuesday.  Give me some feedback!

We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thurday, May 4th at 7:00PM. It will
be held at The Willow House, which is located at 149 W. McDowell Rd.,
which is just a block west of Bowne.

-- 
For a list of the ways which technology has failed
to improve our quality of life, press 3.

From Mark.Pease at motorola.com  Tue May  2 12:54:34 2000
From: Mark.Pease at motorola.com (Mark Pease)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/04/2000 - Please note that this is Thurs.
References: <390D8B67.92666177@bpxinternet.com>
Message-ID: <390F165A.4E9FA3C6@motorola.com>

Thursdays are out for me for the next couple of months (and then
Thesdays
are out starting late Aug. so that I can teach the Perl Class at CGCC.)

Hrumph....

"Douglas E. Miles" wrote:
> 
> I thought I'd try having a meeting on a Thursday, to see if it might be
> better for some.  My idea right now is to have the first Thursday of the
> month, and the 3rd Tuesday.  Give me some feedback!
> 
> We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thurday, May 4th at 7:00PM. It will
> be held at The Willow House, which is located at 149 W. McDowell Rd.,
> which is just a block west of Bowne.
> 
> --
> For a list of the ways which technology has failed
> to improve our quality of life, press 3.

-- 
Mark Pease                                     Mark.Pease@motorola.com
Motorola DigitalDNA(tm) Laboratories             perl@perl.sps.mot.com
2200 W. Broadway Rd.   Phone:(480)655-6950        Mail Stop: AZ09 M350
Mesa, AZ 85202         Pager:(800)381-3304           FAX:(480)655-6192
   Co-Author (with Carl Dichter) of "Software Engineering with Perl"

From janis at primenet.com  Tue May  2 12:56:53 2000
From: janis at primenet.com (Janis)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/04/2000 - Please note that this is Thu
In-Reply-To: <B07FA0A1A91FD211985800805FA76EC602DC223B@TEF00001.vitalps.com> from "Bryan Lane" at May 02, 2000 09:19:56 AM
Message-ID: <200005021756.KAA01896@usr09.primenet.com>

I assume, since it's at the Willow House, it's a social meeting?
I'll try and make it.
-H.

From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Tue May  2 10:28:06 2000
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/04/2000 - Please note that this is Thu
References: <200005021756.KAA01896@usr09.primenet.com>
Message-ID: <390EF406.A8DCE3E@bpxinternet.com>

Janis wrote:
> 
> I assume, since it's at the Willow House, it's a social meeting?
> I'll try and make it.
> -H.

Good Assumption! :)

-- 
- Doug

"A synonym is a word you use when you can't spell the 
word you first thought of."
--Burt Bacharach

From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Tue May  2 10:29:31 2000
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/04/2000 - Please note that this is Thurs.
References: <390D8B67.92666177@bpxinternet.com> <390F165A.4E9FA3C6@motorola.com>
Message-ID: <390EF45B.B2F46999@bpxinternet.com>

Mark Pease wrote:
> 
> Thursdays are out for me for the next couple of months (and then
> Thesdays
> are out starting late Aug. so that I can teach the Perl Class at CGCC.)
> 
> Hrumph....

Well, the idea was to have one on Thurs. and one on Tues, so you can
make at least one.  Unless you're saying that both Tues. and Thurs. are
out?

-- 
- Doug

"A synonym is a word you use when you can't spell the 
word you first thought of."
--Burt Bacharach

From edelsys at edelsys.com  Tue May  2 16:03:47 2000
From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/04/2000 - Please note that this is
  Thu
In-Reply-To: <390EF406.A8DCE3E@bpxinternet.com>
References: <200005021756.KAA01896@usr09.primenet.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000502140347.009039f0@swlink.net>

At 10:28 AM 5/2/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Janis wrote:
>> 
>> I assume, since it's at the Willow House, it's a social meeting?
>> I'll try and make it.
>> -H.
>
>Good Assumption! :)
>
>-- 
>- Doug
>
>"A synonym is a word you use when you can't spell the 
>word you first thought of."
>--Burt Bacharach
>

Janis is going?  I'll be there!  =)

Tony


From Mark.Pease at motorola.com  Tue May  2 15:54:25 2000
From: Mark.Pease at motorola.com (Mark Pease)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/04/2000 - Please note that this is Thurs.
References: <390D8B67.92666177@bpxinternet.com> <390F165A.4E9FA3C6@motorola.com> <390EF45B.B2F46999@bpxinternet.com>
Message-ID: <390F4081.8070D85E@motorola.com>

"Douglas E. Miles" wrote:
> 
> Mark Pease wrote:
> >
> > Thursdays are out for me for the next couple of months (and then
> > Thesdays
> > are out starting late Aug. so that I can teach the Perl Class at CGCC.)
> >
> > Hrumph....
> 
> Well, the idea was to have one on Thurs. and one on Tues, so you can
> make at least one.  Unless you're saying that both Tues. and Thurs. are
> out?
> 

I have some control over what will happen in the Fall with Thursdays, so
I might be able to make it then. Tuesdays are completely out.

-- 
Mark Pease                                     Mark.Pease@motorola.com
Motorola DigitalDNA(tm) Laboratories             perl@perl.sps.mot.com
2200 W. Broadway Rd.   Phone:(480)655-6950        Mail Stop: AZ09 M350
Mesa, AZ 85202         Pager:(800)381-3304           FAX:(480)655-6192
   Co-Author (with Carl Dichter) of "Software Engineering with Perl"

From root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net  Tue May  2 20:27:03 2000
From: root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net (Scott Walters)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/04/2000 - Please note that this is  Thu
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000502140347.009039f0@swlink.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.4.20.0005021825510.14186-100000@nebuchadnezzar>

> 
> Janis is going?  I'll be there!  =)
> 
> Tony
> 
> 

Uh, I don't think Heather ('Janis') and I will be able to make it, uh...

-scott


From edelsys at edelsys.com  Tue May  2 23:38:09 2000
From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/04/2000 - Please note that this is 
  Thu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSD.4.20.0005021825510.14186-100000@nebuchadnezzar>
References: <3.0.6.32.20000502140347.009039f0@swlink.net>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000502213809.00924ab0@swlink.net>

At 06:27 PM 5/2/00 -0700, you wrote:
>> 
>> Janis is going?  I'll be there!  =)
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> 
>
>Uh, I don't think Heather ('Janis') and I will be able to make it, uh...
>
>-scott
>

I know.  I tease too much.  Sorry.  Tell you what,
I will come disguised as a ferret, and since ferrets
are usually very quiet creatures, there will be
no problemo.  =)

Tony


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From forsythe at primenet.com  Fri May  5 03:39:27 2000
From: forsythe at primenet.com (Tran Forsythe)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: *mutter*
Message-ID: <001a01bfb66d$6d822740$0100a8c0@tran>


I'd been planning on attending.. (I particularly enjoy the social meetings)
but someone dorked w/ one of our dept.'s main firewalls and everything went
boom until 11pm.. *grumble*  Anyhow, sorry I missed it.

-Kurt

------

"Push to test."
<click>
"Release to detonate."
-Brad Morrison


From root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net  Sat May  6 06:53:31 2000
From: root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net (Scott Walters)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: ILOVEYOU (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.4.20.0005060443394.14186-101000@nebuchadnezzar>



Hi Folks..

I know this isn't phoenix.vba.org, but I thought you guys might not have
been lucky enough to get the ILOVEYOU self-chainmailer program. Since I 
couldn't get it to run on my Unix system, I had to help it along a
little and forward it. The code is a riot. Yes, I know, people have been
doing these things for years (New Hackers Dictionary mentions a popular
one for VAX/VMS). Kudos to all of the Windows users on the list for being
smart enough NOT to click the attachment if they received this thing
before. If for some reason you want to run this one, remove the syntax
error from the top of it =)

-scott


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From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Mon May 15 15:21:27 2000
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/16/2000
Message-ID: <39205C47.8A74322A@bpxinternet.com>

Sorry that this is so late.  Last week was one of those weeks.

We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Tuesday, May 16th at 7:00PM. 
It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.

I'll be presenting a simple indexing and search engine.  Feedback is
encouraged.

-- 
For a list of the ways which technology has failed
to improve our quality of life, press 3.

From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Tue May 16 13:13:45 2000
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: RESCHEDULE: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/23/2000
References: <39205C47.8A74322A@bpxinternet.com>
Message-ID: <39218FD9.573B92EC@bpxinternet.com>

Sorry, I'm out with the flu today.  I'll have to reschedule the meeting
for next Tuesday.  Sorry for the inconvenience.  Repeat: No meeting
tonight!

"Douglas E. Miles" wrote:
> 
> Sorry that this is so late.  Last week was one of those weeks.
> 
> We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Tuesday, May 16th at 7:00PM.
> It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
> which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
> lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
> receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
> that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
> Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
> which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.
> 
> I'll be presenting a simple indexing and search engine.  Feedback is
> encouraged.
> 
> --
> For a list of the ways which technology has failed
> to improve our quality of life, press 3.

-- 
- Doug

"A synonym is a word you use when you can't spell the 
word you first thought of."
--Burt Bacharach

From Pablo at zunigatech.com  Tue May 16 14:08:48 2000
From: Pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo@zunigatech.com)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Jop Openings in Texas
In-Reply-To: <39218FD9.573B92EC@bpxinternet.com>
References: <39205C47.8A74322A@bpxinternet.com> <39218FD9.573B92EC@bpxinternet.com>
Message-ID: <00051612121502.00710@pvelasquez>

Greetings everyone, thought I'd forward this to you:

Programmer Position
This is a full time position on the Development Team. The
base pay for this position will be based on experience ($45000-$75000
equivalent).  The position will be responsible for updating and creating
original code in Perl for deployment in Internet applications.   These
applications will range from rapidly developed prototypes to end-user
applications.   Other duties will include programming in HTML.  Knowledge of C,
SQL/ODBC, JavaScript (ECMA) and DHTML, as well as a basic knowledge of UNIX
will be necessary.  From time to time, duties could also include outside client
work, as assigned. This could include but not be limited to UNIX, HTML and
cgi programming, dynamic content generation and design, interface
programming with CTS software products, and database programming.
Candidates should have at least 2-3 years solid experience. This position
will report to the Senior Programmer.

Web Designer Position
This is a full time position on the Development Team. The base pay for this
position will be based on experience ($35000-$50000 equivalent).  This
position is responsible for web site programming, functional as well as
aesthetic graphics, layout, interface testing, and client work.
Job duties will include, but not be limited to, web site design and
maintenance,  product manual layout and utilization testing,  interface
design and testing,  web, CD, and software functionality programming and
user testing.  Must be deadline oriented, detail minded, and have an
understanding of browser compatibility issues.
Candidates should have at least 1-2 years solid web experience. as well as a
degree in design or related field or equivalent experience.  This position
will report to the Senior Designer.

CTI Developer Position
This is a full time position on the Development Team. The base pay for this
position will be based on experience ($55000-$75000 equivalent).  The
position will be responsible for updating and creating original code in C
for deployment in telephony applications.   These applications will range
from rapidly developed prototypes to end-user applications.   Knowledge of C
and SQL/ODBC,  HTTP, TCP/IP and socket protocols, as well as a basic
knowledge of UNIX and NT will be necessary.  Hardware and software knowledge
of Dialogix products is a must. From time to time, duties could also include
outside client work, as assigned. This could include but not be limited to
UNIX, NT and C programming, interface programming with CTS software
products, and database programming.

Look forward to hearing from you.  I'd also like to get a copy of your
resume in MS word please so that I might understand more of what you've
worked on in the past.

All the Best-

Térès Counts
Onsite Contract Services
11111 Wilcrest Green, Suite 425
Houston, Texas 77042
713-361-9060

From Pablo at zunigatech.com  Fri May 19 22:15:28 2000
From: Pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo@zunigatech.com)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: open sesame
Message-ID: <00051920192601.01219@pvelasquez>

Greetings:
Hope everyone is doing well. 

I'm looking to automate logging into a server and
I wanted to see if I could do it with perl, meaning, use perl as a shell
script. I don't plan on using this script as a CGI script! :) 
but use it like any shell script, to automate tasks...

I noticed this book won't be out till July:
Perl for System Administration 
by David N. Blank-Edelman, Linda Mui (Editor)  

Here's what I've tried so far:
----------the script:

#!/usr/bin/perl-wT

$ENV{"PATH"} = "";

use strict;

open(SSH, "| /usr/bin/ssh -c 3des -l username 127.0.0.1");
print SSH "my_password";
close(SSH);

----------and what I get in response:

[terminal]# perl s_download_db.cgi  (here I execute the script)

Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal.
username@127.0.0.1's password: 

------------

I'm wondering how I could "give" SSH the password? 

Thanks so much.

-Pablo

From edelsys at edelsys.com  Sat May 20 00:11:13 2000
From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: open sesame
In-Reply-To: <00051920192601.01219@pvelasquez>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000519221113.007bb100@swlink.net>

At 08:15 PM 5/19/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Greetings:
>Hope everyone is doing well. 
>
>I'm looking to automate logging into a server and
>I wanted to see if I could do it with perl, meaning, use perl as a shell
>script. I don't plan on using this script as a CGI script! :) 
>but use it like any shell script, to automate tasks...
>
>I noticed this book won't be out till July:
>Perl for System Administration 
>by David N. Blank-Edelman, Linda Mui (Editor)  
>
>Here's what I've tried so far:
>----------the script:
>
>#!/usr/bin/perl-wT
>
>$ENV{"PATH"} = "";
>
>use strict;
>
>open(SSH, "| /usr/bin/ssh -c 3des -l username 127.0.0.1");
>print SSH "my_password";
>close(SSH);
>
>----------and what I get in response:
>
>[terminal]# perl s_download_db.cgi  (here I execute the script)
>
>Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal.
>username@127.0.0.1's password: 
>
>------------
>
>I'm wondering how I could "give" SSH the password? 
>
>Thanks so much.
>
>-Pablo
>

Perl + Expect should do the trick.

Tony


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From kev at primenet.com  Sat May 20 01:10:28 2000
From: kev at primenet.com (Kevin Buettner)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: open sesame
In-Reply-To: Pablo@zunigatech.com
        "Phoenix.pm: open sesame" (May 19,  8:15pm)
References: <00051920192601.01219@pvelasquez>
Message-ID: <1000520061027.ZM22660@saguaro.lan>

On May 19,  8:15pm, Pablo@zunigatech.com wrote:

> Here's what I've tried so far:
> ----------the script:
> 
> #!/usr/bin/perl-wT
> 
> $ENV{"PATH"} = "";
> 
> use strict;
> 
> open(SSH, "| /usr/bin/ssh -c 3des -l username 127.0.0.1");
> print SSH "my_password";
> close(SSH);
> 
> ----------and what I get in response:
> 
> [terminal]# perl s_download_db.cgi  (here I execute the script)
> 
> Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal.
> username@127.0.0.1's password: 
> 
> ------------
> 
> I'm wondering how I could "give" SSH the password? 

In order to make this work, you'll need to use IO::Pty.

However, I don't think it's really a good idea to encode your
password or your passphrase in your script.

A better approach (which also won't require the use of IO::Pty) would
be to use ssh-keygen to generate a pair of authentication keys which
are protected by a passphrase.  Once this is done, you can add the
public key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine.  And then
you can use ssh-agent (and ssh-add) on the local machine to run
commands on the remote machine without being continuously prompted for
a password on the local machine.

Note that you will have to enter a passphrase when you run ssh-add,
but you will do this interactively and it will not appear in any
script.  This means that your passphrase is still protected.  You are
able to run automated scripts because ssh-agent manages your
authentication for you (once the passphrase has been added via
ssh-add).

See the man page for ssh, ssh-keygen, ssh-agent, and ssh-add for
more information.

I have a perl script which finds a running ssh-agent process and sets
up the appropriate environment variables if you're interested.  (This
is useful if you tend to run ssh-agent after you've started your X
session and want several shells to use the same authentication
daemon.  It could also be used by cron scripts to find a preestablished
agent.)  Let me know if you want it.

Finally, I'll note that it is possible to use ssh-keygen to generate a
public/private key that is unprotected by a passphrase.  You will want
to think long and hard about what you're doing before doing this
because this means that if someone compromises an account that has
such a key pair, your account on the remote machine(s) are compromised
as well.  OTOH, with ssh-agent, you have the ability to add and remove
keys at will, so the truly paranoid would run ssh-agent, run the
(possibly automated) ssh commands, and finally run "ssh-add -d" to
remove the identity added by the first ssh-add command.

Kevin

-- 
Kevin Buettner
kev@primenet.com, kevinb@redhat.com

From Beaves at aol.com  Sun May 21 01:05:40 2000
From: Beaves at aol.com (Beaves@aol.com)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: mySQL question
Message-ID: <a3.642e329.2658d6b4@aol.com>

I would think this would be a simple solution, as it would seem an often 
occurrence. 

I want to update a particular column, but the where clause contains columns 
from two tables.  I have tried including the other table in the UPDATE 
section after the first one, but I get an error in that case.

Here is what I want to do:  
UPDATE icm_priv, icm_groups SET icm_priv.priv=5 WHERE 
icm_priv.gid=icm_groups.gid
    and
icm_priv.uid=icm_groups.owner;

In english, set the priviledge to 5 for each member where that member is an 
owner of a group.

It would seem to me to be a common occurrence, but mySQL has not accepted any 
syntax that I've thrown at it.  Does mySQL have the capability to update a 
record using a where clause that uses two separate tables?

I know I could do this in two steps using DBI, but that just seems like such 
a waste.

From Pablo at zunigatech.com  Sun May 21 04:04:41 2000
From: Pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo@zunigatech.com)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: open sesame
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000519221113.007bb100@swlink.net>
References: <3.0.6.32.20000519221113.007bb100@swlink.net>
Message-ID: <00052102175300.01521@pvelasquez>

Tony:
I'm not sure if you've run into this before but I did install Expect.pm and
then went to install IO::Pty but got an error. 

1. cd .cpan
2. build
3. cd IO-Tty-0.3
4. make ... as below...

I've been reading through
comp.lang.perl.modules but no one has posted that particular question. Here's
the error I posted to that group:

error---------------------
[root@localhost IO-Tty-0.03]# make
cc -c  -Dbool=char -DHAS_BOOL -I/usr/local/include -O2    -DVERSION=\"0.03\" -DXS_VERSION=\"0.03\" -fpic -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux/CORE -DPTYRANGE0=\"abcdepqrstuvwxyz\" -DPTYRANGE1=\"0123456789abcdef\" -DPTYTEMPLATE=\"/dev/ptyXY\" Tty.cTty.xs: In function `xsignal':
Tty.xs:352: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
Tty.xs:357: warning: return from incompatible pointer type
cc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory
make: *** [Tty.o] Error 1
------------------------------

I'm running RH 6.2. 

Hope everyone's having a good weekend, just got the Perl
Journal in the mail on Friday, and was just reading about Home Automation with
Perl. Pretty scary stuff :)

-Pablo 


On Fri, 19 May 2000, you wrote:
> At 08:15 PM 5/19/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >Greetings:
> >Hope everyone is doing well. 
> >
> >I'm looking to automate logging into a server and
> >I wanted to see if I could do it with perl, meaning, use perl as a shell
> >script. I don't plan on using this script as a CGI script! :) 
> >but use it like any shell script, to automate tasks...
> >
> >I noticed this book won't be out till July:
> >Perl for System Administration 
> >by David N. Blank-Edelman, Linda Mui (Editor)  
> >
> >Here's what I've tried so far:
> >----------the script:
> >
> >#!/usr/bin/perl-wT
> >
> >$ENV{"PATH"} = "";
> >
> >use strict;
> >
> >open(SSH, "| /usr/bin/ssh -c 3des -l username 127.0.0.1");
> >print SSH "my_password";
> >close(SSH);
> >
> >----------and what I get in response:
> >
> >[terminal]# perl s_download_db.cgi  (here I execute the script)
> >
> >Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal.
> >username@127.0.0.1's password: 
> >
> >------------
> >
> >I'm wondering how I could "give" SSH the password? 
> >
> >Thanks so much.
> >
> >-Pablo
> >
> 
> Perl + Expect should do the trick.
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
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> 
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-- 



From kev at primenet.com  Sun May 21 11:28:18 2000
From: kev at primenet.com (Kevin Buettner)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: open sesame
In-Reply-To: Pablo@zunigatech.com
        "Re: Phoenix.pm: open sesame" (May 21,  2:04am)
References: <3.0.6.32.20000519221113.007bb100@swlink.net> 
	<00052102175300.01521@pvelasquez>
Message-ID: <1000521162818.ZM25130@saguaro.lan>

On May 21,  2:04am, Pablo@zunigatech.com wrote:

> error---------------------
> [root@localhost IO-Tty-0.03]# make
> cc -c  -Dbool=char -DHAS_BOOL -I/usr/local/include -O2    -DVERSION=\"0.03\" -DXS_VERSION=\"0.03\" -fpic -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux/CORE -DPTYRANGE0=\"abcdepqrstuvwxyz\" -DPTYRANGE1=\"0123456789abcdef\" -DPTYTEMPLATE=\"/dev/ptyXY\" Tty.cTty.xs: In function `xsignal':
> Tty.xs:352: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
> Tty.xs:357: warning: return from incompatible pointer type
> cc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory
> make: *** [Tty.o] Error 1
> ------------------------------
> 
> I'm running RH 6.2. 

If the message is to be believed, it looks like you have an
installation problem.  Make sure that /usr/bin is on your path.  Then
make sure that /usr/bin/as exists and has appropriate execute
permissions set.  You might create a simple "Hello, world" program (in
C) and attempt to compile it.  The command "cc -v -o hello hello.c"
might yield some interesting and helpful messages.

If you find that you're missing /usr/bin/as, it is likely that you'll
need to (re)install binutils-2.9.5.0.22-6.

Also, please read my other post regarding ssh.  There are ways to solve
your specific problem of supplying a password to ssh besides having the
script send a password to the ssh program.  However, the technique of
using ptys to supply input to a program that expects to read from a
terminal is a useful one to learn, so you should attempt to solve your
installation problem as well.

Kevin

-- 
Kevin Buettner
kev@primenet.com, kevinb@redhat.com

From root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net  Sun May 21 00:11:08 2000
From: root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net (Scott Walters)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: mySQL question
In-Reply-To: <a3.642e329.2658d6b4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.4.20.0005202202540.24224-100000@nebuchadnezzar>



Tim,

mSQL and MySQL are both good databases for a number of things, but they
are both relatively simple compared to some large commercial ones. (On the
other hand, they compare favorably feature-wise to other large commercial
ones). 
The feature you want here is a "subquery", where the output of a query is
used directly in another query.


On Sun, 21 May 2000 Beaves@aol.com wrote:

> I would think this would be a simple solution, as it would seem an often 
> occurrence. 
> 
> I want to update a particular column, but the where clause contains columns 
> from two tables.  I have tried including the other table in the UPDATE 
> section after the first one, but I get an error in that case.
> 
> Here is what I want to do:  
> UPDATE icm_priv, icm_groups SET icm_priv.priv=5 WHERE 
> icm_priv.gid=icm_groups.gid
>     and
> icm_priv.uid=icm_groups.owner;
> 

This would look like, in Postgres (which is free and has more features
then mSQL and MySQL, but isn't as stable or fast, in my experience):

UPDATE icm_priv, icm_groups
SET    icm_priv.priv=5
WHERE  icm_priv.gid IN (
  SELECT icm_priv.gid 
  FROM   icm_priv, icm_groups
  WHERE icm_priv.gid=icm_groups.gid
  AND   icm_priv.uid=icm_groups.owner);
 
Actually, there are other ways that could be written, but thats a common
"trick".

If you dont want to switch databases (as you dont need these features most
of the time, or you cant switch, etc), you can always just do it in two
parts: select all of the ids, then formulate a query with a 'WHERE
icm_priv.uid IN ($listofids)' in it. This is twice as many steps, and
requires you to loop through all of the records from the first query, and
join them together with ,'s, but it really isn't that bad as long as you
are only trying to fake one subquery =)

Hope this helps! If I was too vague, swat me, and I'll cough up the goods.

> In english, set the priviledge to 5 for each member where that member is an 
> owner of a group.
> 
> It would seem to me to be a common occurrence, but mySQL has not accepted any 
> syntax that I've thrown at it.  Does mySQL have the capability to update a 
> record using a where clause that uses two separate tables?
> 
> I know I could do this in two steps using DBI, but that just seems like such 
> a waste.
> 

Ooops, I missed this last sentance on my first read-through. Sorry to
repeat to you what you already know.

-scott


From root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net  Sun May 21 00:21:02 2000
From: root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net (Scott Walters)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: mySQL question
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSD.4.20.0005202202540.24224-100000@nebuchadnezzar>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.4.20.0005202220260.24224-100000@nebuchadnezzar>

> UPDATE icm_priv, icm_groups
> SET    icm_priv.priv=5
> WHERE  icm_priv.gid IN (
>   SELECT icm_priv.gid 
>   FROM   icm_priv, icm_groups
>   WHERE icm_priv.gid=icm_groups.gid
>   AND   icm_priv.uid=icm_groups.owner);

Oooops, more sloppy replying from me leads to misinformation!
should be 'UPDATE icm_priv' only.

-s


From Pablo at zunigatech.com  Mon May 22 03:43:59 2000
From: Pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo@zunigatech.com)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: open sesame
In-Reply-To: <1000521162818.ZM25130@saguaro.lan>
References: <3.0.6.32.20000519221113.007bb100@swlink.net> <00052102175300.01521@pvelasquez> <1000521162818.ZM25130@saguaro.lan>
Message-ID: <00052201485200.00724@pvelasquez>

Kevin:
Thanks! I needed to install binutils as you mentioned. I finally was able to
download the files/database I needed. I definetly will work on your other
suggestion regarding SSH automatic login...

-Pablo


On Sun, 21 May 2000, you wrote:
> On May 21,  2:04am, Pablo@zunigatech.com wrote:
> 
> > error---------------------
> > [root@localhost IO-Tty-0.03]# make
> > cc -c  -Dbool=char -DHAS_BOOL -I/usr/local/include -O2    -DVERSION=\"0.03\" -DXS_VERSION=\"0.03\" -fpic -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux/CORE -DPTYRANGE0=\"abcdepqrstuvwxyz\" -DPTYRANGE1=\"0123456789abcdef\" -DPTYTEMPLATE=\"/dev/ptyXY\" Tty.cTty.xs: In function `xsignal':
> > Tty.xs:352: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
> > Tty.xs:357: warning: return from incompatible pointer type
> > cc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory
> > make: *** [Tty.o] Error 1
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > I'm running RH 6.2. 
> 
> If the message is to be believed, it looks like you have an
> installation problem.  Make sure that /usr/bin is on your path.  Then
> make sure that /usr/bin/as exists and has appropriate execute
> permissions set.  You might create a simple "Hello, world" program (in
> C) and attempt to compile it.  The command "cc -v -o hello hello.c"
> might yield some interesting and helpful messages.
> 
> If you find that you're missing /usr/bin/as, it is likely that you'll
> need to (re)install binutils-2.9.5.0.22-6.
> 
> Also, please read my other post regarding ssh.  There are ways to solve
> your specific problem of supplying a password to ssh besides having the
> script send a password to the ssh program.  However, the technique of
> using ptys to supply input to a program that expects to read from a
> terminal is a useful one to learn, so you should attempt to solve your
> installation problem as well.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> -- 
> Kevin Buettner
> kev@primenet.com, kevinb@redhat.com
-- 



From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Tue May 23 13:19:19 2000
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: CANCELED: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/23/2000
References: <39205C47.8A74322A@bpxinternet.com> <39218FD9.573B92EC@bpxinternet.com>
Message-ID: <392ACBA7.36F337CB@bpxinternet.com>

Sorry, I've still been sick so there is no meeting tonight.  We'll start
up again next month.  I'll announce the next meeting later.

"Douglas E. Miles" wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I'm out with the flu today.  I'll have to reschedule the meeting
> for next Tuesday.  Sorry for the inconvenience.  Repeat: No meeting
> tonight!
> 
> "Douglas E. Miles" wrote:
> >
> > Sorry that this is so late.  Last week was one of those weeks.
> >
> > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Tuesday, May 16th at 7:00PM.
> > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
> > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
> > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
> > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
> > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
> > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
> > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.
> >
> > I'll be presenting a simple indexing and search engine.  Feedback is
> > encouraged.
> >
> > --
> > For a list of the ways which technology has failed
> > to improve our quality of life, press 3.
> 
> --
> - Doug
> 
> "A synonym is a word you use when you can't spell the
> word you first thought of."
> --Burt Bacharach

-- 
- Doug

"A synonym is a word you use when you can't spell the 
word you first thought of."
--Burt Bacharach

From Pablo at zunigatech.com  Tue May 23 12:10:19 2000
From: Pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo@zunigatech.com)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: CANCELED: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 05/23/2000
In-Reply-To: <392ACBA7.36F337CB@bpxinternet.com>
References: <39205C47.8A74322A@bpxinternet.com> <39218FD9.573B92EC@bpxinternet.com> <392ACBA7.36F337CB@bpxinternet.com>
Message-ID: <00052310111000.00709@pvelasquez>

Doug:
I hope you feel better.

-Pablo

On Tue, 23 May 2000, you wrote:
> Sorry, I've still been sick so there is no meeting tonight.  We'll start
> up again next month.  I'll announce the next meeting later.
> 
> "Douglas E. Miles" wrote:
> > 
> > Sorry, I'm out with the flu today.  I'll have to reschedule the meeting
> > for next Tuesday.  Sorry for the inconvenience.  Repeat: No meeting
> > tonight!
> > 
> > "Douglas E. Miles" wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry that this is so late.  Last week was one of those weeks.
> > >
> > > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Tuesday, May 16th at 7:00PM.
> > > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
> > > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
> > > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
> > > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
> > > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
> > > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
> > > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.
> > >
> > > I'll be presenting a simple indexing and search engine.  Feedback is
> > > encouraged.
> > >
> > > --
> > > For a list of the ways which technology has failed
> > > to improve our quality of life, press 3.
> > 
> > --
> > - Doug
> > 
> > "A synonym is a word you use when you can't spell the
> > word you first thought of."
> > --Burt Bacharach
> 
> -- 
> - Doug
> 
> "A synonym is a word you use when you can't spell the 
> word you first thought of."
> --Burt Bacharach
-- 



From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Fri May 26 16:06:50 2000
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 06/01/2000
Message-ID: <392EE76A.7E0DEEC2@bpxinternet.com>

For real this time...

We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, June 1st at 7:00PM. 
It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.

I'll be presenting a simple indexing and search engine.  Feedback is
encouraged.

-- 
For a list of the ways which technology has failed
to improve our quality of life, press 3.

From sinck at corp.quepasa.com  Fri May 26 14:13:59 2000
From: sinck at corp.quepasa.com (sinck@corp.quepasa.com)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 06/01/2000
References: <392EE76A.7E0DEEC2@bpxinternet.com>
Message-ID: <14638.52471.200308.897099@charybdis.corp.quepasa.com>


\_ I'll be presenting a simple indexing and search engine.  


\_ Feedback is encouraged.

So the search engine searches itself?

David

From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Fri May 26 16:48:41 2000
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:10 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 06/01/2000
References: <392EE76A.7E0DEEC2@bpxinternet.com> <14638.52471.200308.897099@charybdis.corp.quepasa.com>
Message-ID: <392EF139.BD0CF9AF@bpxinternet.com>

sinck@corp.quepasa.com wrote:
> 
> \_ I'll be presenting a simple indexing and search engine.
> 
> \_ Feedback is encouraged.
> 
> So the search engine searches itself?
> 
> David

Only if you want it to. :)  That should be an HTML indexer and search
engine. :)

-- 
- Doug

"A synonym is a word you use when you can't spell the 
word you first thought of."
--Burt Bacharach