From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Thu Mar 2 11:50:51 2000 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: No Meeting Tuesday 03/07/2000 Message-ID: <38BEA9FB.BAF1B0F6@bpxinternet.com> There will be no meeting next Tuesday night. The next meeting will be at the regular time on 03/21/2000. It will probably be a social meeting at The Willow House. I'll let you know for sure later. Sorry for the cancellation. -- Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are Socrates. From pablo at zunigatech.com Fri Mar 3 16:09:19 2000 From: pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000303150742.00b8b880@127.0.0.1> Greetings: I received this and David suggested I post it to the group. It's a consulting job seeking a Perl Programmer: >The basics of the site, and what it will be, are as follows...I have tried >to synopsize by "category" of work that programming must accomplish. If >you wish, you may see the existing site, which will be re-vamped in this >effort, at www.ff2k.com > >1) Site architecture: There is a master site, with many "replicated" >versions of same. Each version is a custom version for FF2K sales reps, >though not all reps have this. The replicated sites "rotate", so that any >retail customer that surfs to the site is "steered" to whose-ever's site >appears at that time. The customer is then "Grandfathered" (all future >sales for this customer "belong" to that rep) to that rep. Customers who >meet a rep can get that rep's bizcard, with the rep's custom site address. >2) We need programming to be able to link all data from these replicated >sites PLUS for any other reps who may not have a site yet. This enables >the rrep to opt to buy a replicated, custom site at a later date, and benefit. >3) Auto Responder System: There are 4 products. Each will have 25 sales >letters, generated by client, which must auto-respond to customer who >inquires about that product, 1 letter per day. As the customer went thru >a particular rep's site, the letter must be customized (signature, etc.) >to that rep. The letters stop once the customer buys. >4) Rotating Banner Exchange >5) Active vs. Total Rep database must be integrated for operational >purposes. (Gena has a better understanding of this, as it's her software, >etc., that drives the data.) From what I understand, this is largely >done, insofar as the OPS side, but not from the "tie the database into the >web" side. >6) Preferred Customer Autoship Program: This is a sales-to-ops >programming need. The program allows a customer to receive discounted >prices, in exchange for signing up at a one-time fee, by pre-approving an >automatic monthly shipment/billing of product. This needs to "report" to >the company, via e-mail or download, whenever a change in shipping order >occurs. In other words, if a customer changes from 1 product to two, or >double the amount to ship, (etc.) the company is made aware, to >double-check the operational needs and to quality control, as well as to >change compensation to the rep. > >Client wants 100% programmed, tested and operational in under 90 >days. Your job would be to tie in programming to front end copy and >graphics, which is my job. Please let me know your thoughts re. project, >timeline and $$$, ASAP. Thanks. You can reach me at (480)429-8300, fax >(480)429-8400 or e-mail at : feinberg@dataimaging.net. From pablo at zunigatech.com Mon Mar 6 19:25:14 2000 From: pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000303150742.00b8b880@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000306182101.00b9ae60@127.0.0.1> Greetings: I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" Perl meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the in-person meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, whether they be in Tucson or Tempe :) We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM (http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using such software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I work with. Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your suggestions might be... -Pablo From jimm at amug.org Mon Mar 6 22:21:38 2000 From: jimm at amug.org (jim) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Re: Meeting online References: <4.2.0.58.20000306182101.00b9ae60@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <38C483D2.7D8B2991@amug.org> Sounds like an interesting idea. AOL IM frightens me though (sorry)... I would suggest Hotline http://www.bigredh.com if anyone's not familiar be sure to read through the how-to ( http://www.bigredh.com/hotline2/client/client_tutorial.pdf ). It allows a chat forrum, IM'ing, an ftp space, an news in one interface. Very nice for collaberation type things. In fact maybe we(I) could run one 24/7 as a hangout/code depository? any thoughts? If you download it and try it out, I'll have a server running at 24.14.22.164 for everyone to look at. Later, Jim Pablo Velasquez wrote: > Greetings: > I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" Perl > meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the in-person > meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, whether > they be in Tucson or Tempe :) > > We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM > (http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using such > software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I work with. > > Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your > suggestions might be... > > -Pablo -- A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila. -- Mitch Ratcliffe From root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net Tue Mar 7 01:26:11 2000 From: root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000306182101.00b9ae60@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: Pablo, Does AOL IM run on Unix? If not, IRC is a cross-platform, time tested, backup. Sorry I havn't been around lately =( -scott On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Pablo Velasquez wrote: > Greetings: > I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" Perl > meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the in-person > meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, whether > they be in Tucson or Tempe :) > > We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM > (http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using such > software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I work with. > > Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your > suggestions might be... > > -Pablo > From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM Tue Mar 7 10:55:29 2000 From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open Message-ID: It sounds like a good plan for those that can't come. I don't know if the technical end would be possible in the meeting room, however. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Pablo Velasquez [mailto:pablo@zunigatech.com] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 6:25 PM To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Cc: BrownM@fhu.disa.mil Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open Greetings: I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" Perl meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the in-person meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, whether they be in Tucson or Tempe :) We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM (http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using such software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I work with. Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your suggestions might be... -Pablo From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Tue Mar 7 11:11:42 2000 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open References: Message-ID: <38C5384E.46DC2BA8@bpxinternet.com> Bryan Lane wrote: > > It sounds like a good plan for those that can't come. I don't know > if the technical end would be possible in the meeting room, however. I think we would have to have everyone come in on their own clients. I don't think that any of us would be meeting together (not enough computers). Unless I'm missing something? > Greetings: > I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" Perl > meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the in-person > meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, whether > they be in Tucson or Tempe :) > > We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM > (http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using such > software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I work > with. > > Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your > suggestions might be... > > -Pablo -- Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are Socrates. From BrownM at fhu.disa.mil Tue Mar 7 11:35:45 2000 From: BrownM at fhu.disa.mil (Brown, Melissa) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open Message-ID: <7C07F1B20FE0D21185670020484009DC29CD72@fhu2.fhu.disa.mil> Do we know what the topic(s) of discussion will be yet??? Or, will it be free association??? :-) -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Lane [mailto:Bryan.Lane@VITALPS.COM] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 9:55 AM To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' Subject: RE: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open It sounds like a good plan for those that can't come. I don't know if the technical end would be possible in the meeting room, however. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Pablo Velasquez [mailto:pablo@zunigatech.com] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 6:25 PM To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Cc: BrownM@fhu.disa.mil Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open Greetings: I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" Perl meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the in-person meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, whether they be in Tucson or Tempe :) We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM (http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using such software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I work with. Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your suggestions might be... -Pablo From janis at primenet.com Tue Mar 7 11:45:07 2000 From: janis at primenet.com (Janis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: nsPerl In-Reply-To: <7C07F1B20FE0D21185670020484009DC29CD72@fhu2.fhu.disa.mil> from "Brown, Melissa" at Mar 07, 2000 10:35:45 AM Message-ID: <200003071745.KAA04531@usr01.primenet.com> I have a newbie question, sort of... Has anyone used/installed nsPerl? (http://people.netscape.com/kristian/nsPerl/) I've managed to install it (rather easily, it's pre-built) on an AIX server, but I was wondering if there were known problems, bugs or 'issues' with it that I'm unaware of (before I tell da boss.) Are there any other advantages/disadvantages? (We aren't intending to do anything too fancy with it.) -Heather (I love parentheses) From sinck at corp.quepasa.com Tue Mar 7 12:00:17 2000 From: sinck at corp.quepasa.com (sinck@corp.quepasa.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: nsPerl References: <7C07F1B20FE0D21185670020484009DC29CD72@fhu2.fhu.disa.mil> <200003071745.KAA04531@usr01.primenet.com> Message-ID: <14533.17329.649400.500722@ip100.corp.quepasa.com> \_ I have a newbie question, sort of... \_ \_ Has anyone used/installed nsPerl? \_ (http://people.netscape.com/kristian/nsPerl/) \_ \_ I've managed to install it (rather easily, it's pre-built) on an AIX \_ server, but I was wondering if there were known problems, bugs or 'issues' \_ with it that I'm unaware of (before I tell da boss.) Are there any other \_ advantages/disadvantages? (We aren't intending to do anything too fancy \_ with it.) \_ \_ -Heather (I love parentheses) If you love parens, why are you using perl rather than Lisp? :-) David From pablo at zunigatech.com Tue Mar 7 12:09:43 2000 From: pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.58.20000306182101.00b9ae60@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000307105857.00bc5660@127.0.0.1> Scott: I do believe AOL runs on Unix, specifically Linux. Some months ago I was using it to chat. However, since the recents changes and such I cannot verify this information. I have ICQ is that the same as IRC? If AOL works on your platform would you be interested in having this online perl chat? -Pablo At 11:26 PM 3/6/00 -0800, you wrote: >Pablo, > >Does AOL IM run on Unix? If not, IRC is a cross-platform, time tested, >backup. Sorry I havn't been around lately =( > >-scott > >On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Pablo Velasquez wrote: > > > Greetings: > > I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" Perl > > meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the > in-person > > meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, whether > > they be in Tucson or Tempe :) > > > > We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM > > (http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using such > > software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I > work with. > > > > Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your > > suggestions might be... > > > > -Pablo > > From janis at primenet.com Tue Mar 7 12:26:40 2000 From: janis at primenet.com (Janis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000307105857.00bc5660@127.0.0.1> from "Pablo Velasquez" at Mar 07, 2000 11:09:43 AM Message-ID: <200003071826.LAA06924@usr01.primenet.com> I too would prefer the old standby, IRC. ICQ is ugly, especially with firewalls, and I've never used AOL im. I'd hate to install one more thing on my bulging hard drive... Alternatively, we could meet on perlmonks.org chat board, or a similar chat board (if someone knows of any.) :-) > > Scott: > I do believe AOL runs on Unix, specifically Linux. Some months ago I was > using it to chat. However, since the recents changes and such I cannot > verify this information. > > I have ICQ is that the same as IRC? > > If AOL works on your platform would you be interested in having this online > perl chat? > > -Pablo > > At 11:26 PM 3/6/00 -0800, you wrote: > > >Pablo, > > > >Does AOL IM run on Unix? If not, IRC is a cross-platform, time tested, > >backup. Sorry I havn't been around lately =( > > > >-scott > > > >On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Pablo Velasquez wrote: > > > > > Greetings: > > > I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" Perl > > > meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the > > in-person > > > meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, whether > > > they be in Tucson or Tempe :) > > > > > > We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM > > > (http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using such > > > software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I > > work with. > > > > > > Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your > > > suggestions might be... > > > > > > -Pablo > > > > > From root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net Tue Mar 7 13:16:45 2000 From: root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000307105857.00bc5660@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: Pablo, everyone... > Scott: > I do believe AOL runs on Unix, specifically Linux. Some months ago I was > using it to chat. However, since the recents changes and such I cannot > verify this information. I run NetBSD. I think an open-source, open-standard solution is more in order here, in the spirit of Perl =) Otherwise, we will be excluding people who run MkLinux, HP/UX, Apollo DomainOS, etc, etc, etc. Having to run a certain processor and a certain operating system to use a bit of software is silly, when it was written in portable C (and the source is simply being kept secret). > > I have ICQ is that the same as IRC? Nope! Pablo: IRC is the oldist chat protocol on the Internet. You connect to a server, like ICQ. However, the servers themselves are networked together, in a heirachy. This allows 100's or 1000's of people to be in on the same channel. If a message is broadcast on that channel, it is only sent to each server once. These network-use optimizations allow it to be much larger, and host much larger discussions then ICQ, AIM, etc. No one "owns" IRC. However, different organizations work together to the keep the internet-server network up and running, and to keep reasonable policies inplace, and agree on solutions to bug fixes (usualy there is agreement). I'm not a huge IRC fan, but IRC is sometimes handy for just such things. ICQ, AIM, etc are sort of commercial half-arsed reinventions of wheel. ICQ clients are available for VMS, Unix, Windows (3.1 through 2000), Amiga, Mac, and dang near any other OS you can name. Many different clients for Windows (most available as source) as available, though I think "bitchx" is the current favorite. Most clients are programable, and can be set up as a "bot" to automate simple tasks - maintaining file archives on the channel, regulating permission, moderating large discussions, answering frequently asked questions, inforcing language policies, etc, etc, etc. In a nutshell, IRC is better because it is decentralized, open and technologically superior to AIM and ICQ, even if it is isn't prettier on your windows screen =) -scott > > > >Does AOL IM run on Unix? If not, IRC is a cross-platform, time tested, > >backup. Sorry I havn't been around lately =( > > > > > Greetings: > > > I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" Perl > > > meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the > > in-person > > > meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, whether > > > they be in Tucson or Tempe :) > > > > > > We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM > > > (http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using such > > > software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I > > work with. > > > > > > Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your > > > suggestions might be... > > > > > > -Pablo > > > > > From root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net Tue Mar 7 13:19:52 2000 From: root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: nsPerl In-Reply-To: <200003071745.KAA04531@usr01.primenet.com> Message-ID: Janis, What is nsPerl, by the way? (Just a binary distribution for different machines?) Re: ICQ, why not meet on irc.undernet.org's #perl? -scott On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Janis wrote: > I have a newbie question, sort of... > > Has anyone used/installed nsPerl? > (http://people.netscape.com/kristian/nsPerl/) > > I've managed to install it (rather easily, it's pre-built) on an AIX > server, but I was wondering if there were known problems, bugs or 'issues' > with it that I'm unaware of (before I tell da boss.) Are there any other > advantages/disadvantages? (We aren't intending to do anything too fancy > with it.) > > -Heather (I love parentheses) > > From Ron.Giffin at motorola.com Tue Mar 7 12:48:29 2000 From: Ron.Giffin at motorola.com (Giffin Ron-P08295) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: nsPerl Message-ID: <01CA656A687ED211926B00805F779140035D5016@az25exm02.geg.mot.com> Wow! Does that look easy or what? (versus 8 hrs. from CPAN site) How big was your download? Please let the list know what (if anything) was missing and any other problems that you might encounter. TIA -----Original Message----- From: Janis [mailto:janis@primenet.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 10:45 AM To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Phoenix.pm: nsPerl I have a newbie question, sort of... Has anyone used/installed nsPerl? (http://people.netscape.com/kristian/nsPerl/) I've managed to install it (rather easily, it's pre-built) on an AIX server, but I was wondering if there were known problems, bugs or 'issues' with it that I'm unaware of (before I tell da boss.) Are there any other advantages/disadvantages? (We aren't intending to do anything too fancy with it.) -Heather (I love parentheses) From pablo at zunigatech.com Tue Mar 7 13:02:29 2000 From: pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open In-Reply-To: <38C5384E.46DC2BA8@bpxinternet.com> References: Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000307114952.00b7ce10@127.0.0.1> Bryan: You bring up a good point, once we have all the "virtual people" in one chat room, how do we add the "real people" in the meeting room. I agree with David that for this to work we would all need to just log in from home. I'm not in any way imlying to replace the Bowne meetings, since when I was able to attend I found them very informative and fun. In fact, I would hope David could still be our coordinator for this "online" event as well since we are all Phoenix.pm members...no pressure David :) My main goal was to suggest an option for us meeting in cyberspace due to the large terrain Phoenix.pm covers, all the way to Tucson. It seems viable we could all gather one Tuesday a month and exchange code over the chat room, etc. Or even have this online chat be in addition to the "in-person" meetings. It's a feature :) I'd like to begin counting virtual people at one point to see if we have enough interest to move forward. For example, if we have 5 or more people that seems like a good group to start with. What do you think? -Pablo At 10:11 AM 3/7/00 -0700, you wrote: >Bryan Lane wrote: > > > > It sounds like a good plan for those that can't come. I don't know > > if the technical end would be possible in the meeting room, however. > >I think we would have to have everyone come in on their own clients. I >don't think that any of us would be meeting together (not enough >computers). Unless I'm missing something? > > > Greetings: > > I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" Perl > > meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the in-person > > meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, whether > > they be in Tucson or Tempe :) > > > > We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM > > (http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using such > > software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I work > > with. > > > > Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your > > suggestions might be... > > > > -Pablo > >-- >Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are >Socrates. From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Tue Mar 7 13:15:31 2000 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: nsPerl References: <200003071745.KAA04531@usr01.primenet.com> Message-ID: <38C55553.380BAF0B@bpxinternet.com> Janis wrote: > > I have a newbie question, sort of... > > Has anyone used/installed nsPerl? > (http://people.netscape.com/kristian/nsPerl/) > > I've managed to install it (rather easily, it's pre-built) on an AIX > server, but I was wondering if there were known problems, bugs or 'issues' > with it that I'm unaware of (before I tell da boss.) Are there any other > advantages/disadvantages? (We aren't intending to do anything too fancy > with it.) This is the first I've heard of it. I guess you get to be the guinea pig. Let us know how it works for you. - Doug -- Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are Socrates. From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Tue Mar 7 13:19:17 2000 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open References: Message-ID: <38C55635.1957D7A0@bpxinternet.com> I agree with Scott that IRC would be the way to go. That being said, someone else should probably facilitate the first virtual meeting, as I have never used IRC before. I wouldn't mind facilitating future meetings, but I'll need to get up to speed on using IRC first. - Doug Scott Walters wrote: > Pablo: IRC is the oldist chat protocol on the Internet. You connect to a > server, like ICQ. However, the servers themselves are networked together, > in a heirachy. This allows 100's or 1000's of people to be in on the same > channel. If a message is broadcast on that channel, it is only sent to > each server once. These network-use optimizations allow it to be much > larger, and host much larger discussions then ICQ, AIM, etc. No one > "owns" IRC. However, different organizations work together to the keep the > internet-server network up and running, and to keep reasonable policies > inplace, and agree on solutions to bug fixes (usualy there is > agreement). I'm not a huge IRC fan, but IRC is sometimes handy for just > such things. ICQ, AIM, etc are sort of commercial half-arsed reinventions > of wheel. ICQ clients are available for VMS, Unix, Windows (3.1 through > 2000), Amiga, Mac, and dang near any other OS you can name. Many different > clients for Windows (most available as source) as available, though I > think "bitchx" is the current favorite. Most clients are programable, and > can be set up as a "bot" to automate simple tasks - maintaining file > archives on the channel, regulating permission, moderating large > discussions, answering frequently asked questions, inforcing language > policies, etc, etc, etc. In a nutshell, IRC is better because it is > decentralized, open and technologically superior to AIM and ICQ, even if > it is isn't prettier on your windows screen =) > > -scott -- Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are Socrates. From kev at primenet.com Tue Mar 7 13:37:37 2000 From: kev at primenet.com (Kevin Buettner) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: nsPerl In-Reply-To: Janis "Phoenix.pm: nsPerl" (Mar 7, 10:45am) References: <200003071745.KAA04531@usr01.primenet.com> Message-ID: <1000307193737.ZM20786@saguaro.lan> On Mar 7, 10:45am, Janis wrote: > Has anyone used/installed nsPerl? > (http://people.netscape.com/kristian/nsPerl/) > > I've managed to install it (rather easily, it's pre-built) on an AIX > server, but I was wondering if there were known problems, bugs or 'issues' > with it that I'm unaware of (before I tell da boss.) Are there any other > advantages/disadvantages? (We aren't intending to do anything too fancy > with it.) I'd never heard of nsPerl, 'til now. How did you come across it? After reading the web page, I have the following concerns: 1) How does it differ from standard Perl? (I.e, did Netscape make any modifications beyond providing a wrapper.) 2) One of the README files says that bin/perl contains the standard perl program, but is not of much use unless invoked by the wrapper. This concerns me because "standard" scripts which use either #!/usr/bin/perl of #!/usr/local/bin/perl won't work. Instead, you'll need to provide the path to the nsperl wrapper. (I think.) 3) My last concern you raise yourself. This is (I think) a rather obscure perl distribution and it's unclear what bugs there are. OTOH, I think this framework would be marvelous in settings where you are providing a product which uses perl, but are concerned about the the version of perl that may (or may not) be installed at the customer's site. You can install nsPerl (or something like it) along with the rest of your application and not have to worry about it either interfering with the customer's install or about incompatilibities between the customer's installed version and your software. It would also be useful if you wanted to provide perl on the CD in order to script the installation process itself. (I've been in the position of wanting/needing to do both at previous jobs.) Let us know it works for you. I would certainly avoid using it for anything mission critical until you've put it through its paces. (You might see if you can figure out a way to run Perl's test suite with it.) Kevin From pablo at zunigatech.com Tue Mar 7 14:34:50 2000 From: pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.58.20000307105857.00bc5660@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000307133332.00b6f260@127.0.0.1> Scott: IRC sounds good to me. I've never used it so at this point could you help us get started? For example, where do we go for software? Thanks so much... -Pablo At 11:16 AM 3/7/00 -0800, you wrote: >Pablo, everyone... > > > Scott: > > I do believe AOL runs on Unix, specifically Linux. Some months ago I was > > using it to chat. However, since the recents changes and such I cannot > > verify this information. > >I run NetBSD. I think an open-source, open-standard solution is more in >order here, in the spirit of Perl =) Otherwise, we will be excluding >people who run MkLinux, HP/UX, Apollo DomainOS, etc, etc, etc. Having to >run a certain processor and a certain operating system to use a bit of >software is silly, when it was written in portable C (and the source is >simply being kept secret). > > > > > I have ICQ is that the same as IRC? > >Nope! > >Pablo: IRC is the oldist chat protocol on the Internet. You connect to a >server, like ICQ. However, the servers themselves are networked together, >in a heirachy. This allows 100's or 1000's of people to be in on the same >channel. If a message is broadcast on that channel, it is only sent to >each server once. These network-use optimizations allow it to be much >larger, and host much larger discussions then ICQ, AIM, etc. No one >"owns" IRC. However, different organizations work together to the keep the >internet-server network up and running, and to keep reasonable policies >inplace, and agree on solutions to bug fixes (usualy there is >agreement). I'm not a huge IRC fan, but IRC is sometimes handy for just >such things. ICQ, AIM, etc are sort of commercial half-arsed reinventions >of wheel. ICQ clients are available for VMS, Unix, Windows (3.1 through >2000), Amiga, Mac, and dang near any other OS you can name. Many different >clients for Windows (most available as source) as available, though I >think "bitchx" is the current favorite. Most clients are programable, and >can be set up as a "bot" to automate simple tasks - maintaining file >archives on the channel, regulating permission, moderating large >discussions, answering frequently asked questions, inforcing language >policies, etc, etc, etc. In a nutshell, IRC is better because it is >decentralized, open and technologically superior to AIM and ICQ, even if >it is isn't prettier on your windows screen =) > >-scott > > > > > > >Does AOL IM run on Unix? If not, IRC is a cross-platform, time tested, > > >backup. Sorry I havn't been around lately =( > > > > > > > Greetings: > > > > I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" > Perl > > > > meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the > > > in-person > > > > meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, > whether > > > > they be in Tucson or Tempe :) > > > > > > > > We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM > > > > (http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using > such > > > > software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I > > > work with. > > > > > > > > Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your > > > > suggestions might be... > > > > > > > > -Pablo > > > > > > > > From pablo at zunigatech.com Tue Mar 7 14:40:44 2000 From: pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open In-Reply-To: <7C07F1B20FE0D21185670020484009DC29CD72@fhu2.fhu.disa.mil> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000307133843.00b7c3d0@127.0.0.1> Melissa: I'm not sure about what topics to go over online. Suggestions? -Pablo At 10:35 AM 3/7/00 -0700, you wrote: >Do we know what the topic(s) of discussion will be yet??? >Or, will it be free association??? >:-) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bryan Lane [mailto:Bryan.Lane@VITALPS.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 9:55 AM >To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' >Subject: RE: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open > > >It sounds like a good plan for those that can't come. I don't know >if the technical end would be possible in the meeting room, however. > >Bryan > >-----Original Message----- >From: Pablo Velasquez [mailto:pablo@zunigatech.com] >Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 6:25 PM >To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org >Cc: BrownM@fhu.disa.mil >Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open > > >Greetings: >I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" Perl >meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the in-person >meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, whether >they be in Tucson or Tempe :) > >We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM >(http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using such >software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I work >with. > >Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your >suggestions might be... > >-Pablo From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM Tue Mar 7 14:56:46 2000 From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open Message-ID: Pablo, So we would have a virtual meeting and a real meeting? It sounds plausible. I would be interested in participating at least once to see how it goes. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Pablo Velasquez [mailto:pablo@zunigatech.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 12:02 PM To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open Bryan: You bring up a good point, once we have all the "virtual people" in one chat room, how do we add the "real people" in the meeting room. I agree with David that for this to work we would all need to just log in from home. I'm not in any way imlying to replace the Bowne meetings, since when I was able to attend I found them very informative and fun. In fact, I would hope David could still be our coordinator for this "online" event as well since we are all Phoenix.pm members...no pressure David :) My main goal was to suggest an option for us meeting in cyberspace due to the large terrain Phoenix.pm covers, all the way to Tucson. It seems viable we could all gather one Tuesday a month and exchange code over the chat room, etc. Or even have this online chat be in addition to the "in-person" meetings. It's a feature :) I'd like to begin counting virtual people at one point to see if we have enough interest to move forward. For example, if we have 5 or more people that seems like a good group to start with. What do you think? -Pablo At 10:11 AM 3/7/00 -0700, you wrote: >Bryan Lane wrote: > > > > It sounds like a good plan for those that can't come. I don't know > > if the technical end would be possible in the meeting room, however. > >I think we would have to have everyone come in on their own clients. I >don't think that any of us would be meeting together (not enough >computers). Unless I'm missing something? > > > Greetings: > > I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" Perl > > meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the in-person > > meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, whether > > they be in Tucson or Tempe :) > > > > We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM > > (http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using such > > software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I work > > with. > > > > Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your > > suggestions might be... > > > > -Pablo > >-- >Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are >Socrates. From janis at primenet.com Tue Mar 7 15:25:39 2000 From: janis at primenet.com (Janis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: nsPerl In-Reply-To: <1000307193737.ZM20786@saguaro.lan> from "Kevin Buettner" at Mar 07, 2000 12:37:37 PM Message-ID: <200003072125.OAA00759@usr07.primenet.com> Well it's working so far... yes you DO have to point your perl scripts to wherever you installed nsPerl, but it makes no difference to me since I'm wrting my scripts from scratch, and I don't have write access to /usr/bin (so this was kinda the point.) It installed really quickly, so I'm still wondering what the 'catch' is, but I'll keep ya posted. P.S. I found this linked from CPAN (http://www.cpan.org/ports/index.html), so I kinda think it might be maybe OK... :-) > > On Mar 7, 10:45am, Janis wrote: > > > Has anyone used/installed nsPerl? > > (http://people.netscape.com/kristian/nsPerl/) > > > > I've managed to install it (rather easily, it's pre-built) on an AIX > > server, but I was wondering if there were known problems, bugs or 'issues' > > with it that I'm unaware of (before I tell da boss.) Are there any other > > advantages/disadvantages? (We aren't intending to do anything too fancy > > with it.) > > I'd never heard of nsPerl, 'til now. How did you come across it? > > After reading the web page, I have the following concerns: > > 1) How does it differ from standard Perl? (I.e, did Netscape make > any modifications beyond providing a wrapper.) > > 2) One of the README files says that bin/perl contains the standard > perl program, but is not of much use unless invoked by the > wrapper. This concerns me because "standard" scripts which use > either > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > of > > #!/usr/local/bin/perl > > won't work. Instead, you'll need to provide the path to the > nsperl wrapper. (I think.) > > 3) My last concern you raise yourself. This is (I think) a rather > obscure perl distribution and it's unclear what bugs there are. > > OTOH, I think this framework would be marvelous in settings where you > are providing a product which uses perl, but are concerned about the > the version of perl that may (or may not) be installed at the > customer's site. You can install nsPerl (or something like it) along > with the rest of your application and not have to worry about it > either interfering with the customer's install or about > incompatilibities between the customer's installed version and your > software. It would also be useful if you wanted to provide perl on > the CD in order to script the installation process itself. (I've been > in the position of wanting/needing to do both at previous jobs.) > > Let us know it works for you. I would certainly avoid using it for > anything mission critical until you've put it through its paces. > (You might see if you can figure out a way to run Perl's test suite > with it.) > > Kevin > From BrownM at fhu.disa.mil Tue Mar 7 16:39:34 2000 From: BrownM at fhu.disa.mil (Brown, Melissa) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open Message-ID: <7C07F1B20FE0D21185670020484009DC29CD92@fhu2.fhu.disa.mil> Pablo, Suggestions from me on what topic we could discuss online??? tehehehehe I'm having a very difficult time keeping focused today .... I would have to say: "Perl: How-to" Just teasing. :-) I would like to see some talk about secure coding. What I'm dealing with now is security on the web. Stripping out the malicious characters or words that can be input through forms/comments. Maybe some talk from people who work with CGI when it uses perl. And, if anyone has experienced making changes to the excite or lyris perl scripts, that's something I'm trying to dig through right now. Remember... I'm a newbid. But I promise to learn quick. (teacher's pet, teacher's pet!) -----Original Message----- From: Pablo Velasquez [mailto:pablo@zunigatech.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 1:41 PM To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: RE: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open Melissa: I'm not sure about what topics to go over online. Suggestions? -Pablo At 10:35 AM 3/7/00 -0700, you wrote: >Do we know what the topic(s) of discussion will be yet??? >Or, will it be free association??? >:-) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bryan Lane [mailto:Bryan.Lane@VITALPS.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 9:55 AM >To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' >Subject: RE: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open > > >It sounds like a good plan for those that can't come. I don't know >if the technical end would be possible in the meeting room, however. > >Bryan > >-----Original Message----- >From: Pablo Velasquez [mailto:pablo@zunigatech.com] >Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 6:25 PM >To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org >Cc: BrownM@fhu.disa.mil >Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open > > >Greetings: >I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" Perl >meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the in-person >meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, whether >they be in Tucson or Tempe :) > >We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM >(http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using such >software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I work >with. > >Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your >suggestions might be... > >-Pablo From root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net Tue Mar 7 17:22:41 2000 From: root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000307133332.00b6f260@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: Pablo, everyone.. I don't download a lot of windows software, but http://www.shareware.com seems to have a reasonably good index of MSWin (and Amiga, Atari!) free/shareware programs. Search for "bitchx". When you log on IRC, you must specify a server and a username. The two large IRC networks are Effnet and Undernet. One of them is more popular in Europe, I don't remember which. irc.undernet.org accepts connections from anywhere. As far as Unix software, I browse the listings at www.freebsd.org and just download the source and built it on whatever system I happen to be shopping for. -scott On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Pablo Velasquez wrote: > Scott: > IRC sounds good to me. I've never used it so at this point could you help > us get started? > > For example, where do we go for software? > > Thanks so much... > > -Pablo > > At 11:16 AM 3/7/00 -0800, you wrote: > > >Pablo, everyone... > > > > > Scott: > > > I do believe AOL runs on Unix, specifically Linux. Some months ago I was > > > using it to chat. However, since the recents changes and such I cannot > > > verify this information. > > > >I run NetBSD. I think an open-source, open-standard solution is more in > >order here, in the spirit of Perl =) Otherwise, we will be excluding > >people who run MkLinux, HP/UX, Apollo DomainOS, etc, etc, etc. Having to > >run a certain processor and a certain operating system to use a bit of > >software is silly, when it was written in portable C (and the source is > >simply being kept secret). > > > > > > > > I have ICQ is that the same as IRC? > > > >Nope! > > > >Pablo: IRC is the oldist chat protocol on the Internet. You connect to a > >server, like ICQ. However, the servers themselves are networked together, > >in a heirachy. This allows 100's or 1000's of people to be in on the same > >channel. If a message is broadcast on that channel, it is only sent to > >each server once. These network-use optimizations allow it to be much > >larger, and host much larger discussions then ICQ, AIM, etc. No one > >"owns" IRC. However, different organizations work together to the keep the > >internet-server network up and running, and to keep reasonable policies > >inplace, and agree on solutions to bug fixes (usualy there is > >agreement). I'm not a huge IRC fan, but IRC is sometimes handy for just > >such things. ICQ, AIM, etc are sort of commercial half-arsed reinventions > >of wheel. ICQ clients are available for VMS, Unix, Windows (3.1 through > >2000), Amiga, Mac, and dang near any other OS you can name. Many different > >clients for Windows (most available as source) as available, though I > >think "bitchx" is the current favorite. Most clients are programable, and > >can be set up as a "bot" to automate simple tasks - maintaining file > >archives on the channel, regulating permission, moderating large > >discussions, answering frequently asked questions, inforcing language > >policies, etc, etc, etc. In a nutshell, IRC is better because it is > >decentralized, open and technologically superior to AIM and ICQ, even if > >it is isn't prettier on your windows screen =) > > > >-scott > > > > > > > > > >Does AOL IM run on Unix? If not, IRC is a cross-platform, time tested, > > > >backup. Sorry I havn't been around lately =( > > > > > > > > > Greetings: > > > > > I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an "online" > > Perl > > > > > meeting, for all of us that have found it difficult to attend the > > > > in-person > > > > > meetings lately, in fact, for all Phoenix Perl members out there, > > whether > > > > > they be in Tucson or Tempe :) > > > > > > > > > > We'd need to agree on a platform. I would recommend AOL IM > > > > > (http://www.aol.com), since it's quite easy to do group chats using > > such > > > > > software. I've done a number of them already for a magazine group I > > > > work with. > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know if there is interest for this idea and what your > > > > > suggestions might be... > > > > > > > > > > -Pablo > > > > > > > > > > > > > From root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net Tue Mar 7 17:27:57 2000 From: root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open In-Reply-To: <7C07F1B20FE0D21185670020484009DC29CD92@fhu2.fhu.disa.mil> Message-ID: Hey All My short term memory is shot. Whats the status of the meeting, etc? Is it tonight, cancelled, possible only virtual, social? I think I can make it tonight... if nothing else bursts into flames before me.. -scott From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Wed Mar 8 09:14:44 2000 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl Position Open References: Message-ID: <38C66E64.F67ED0F8@bpxinternet.com> Scott Walters wrote: > > Hey All > > My short term memory is shot. Whats the status of the meeting, etc? Is it > tonight, cancelled, possible only virtual, social? I think I can make it > tonight... if nothing else bursts into flames before me.. > > -scott Canceled. Sorry. :( The next will meeting will be in two weeks, either at the Willow house, or a virtual meeting depending on what the majority wants to do. -- "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." --Robert Wilensky From dmiles at primenet.com Sat Mar 11 23:10:15 2000 From: dmiles at primenet.com (Doug and Julie Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:06 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Short term project opportunity Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000311220707.00c9f7a0@pop.primenet.com> We might be having a short term project at Bowne in the near future. If any of you are interested, please contact me at doug.miles@bpxinternet.com. If you have any minimum rate requirements, let me know what they are. Sorry that I don't have more info right now. Thanks! From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM Mon Mar 13 10:20:59 2000 From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Short term project opportunity Message-ID: I'm interested. Send me some more details. I'm not sure what to charge. Perhaps, we could talk about that too. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Doug and Julie Miles [mailto:dmiles@primenet.com] Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 10:10 PM To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Phoenix.pm: Short term project opportunity We might be having a short term project at Bowne in the near future. If any of you are interested, please contact me at doug.miles@bpxinternet.com. If you have any minimum rate requirements, let me know what they are. Sorry that I don't have more info right now. Thanks! From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Wed Mar 15 11:03:23 2000 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Next meeting Message-ID: <38CFC25B.E3AF93D6@bpxinternet.com> So what's it going to be? Are we doing a virtual meeting, going to the Willow House, or having a regular meeting. Feedback please... :) -- - Doug Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are Socrates. From sinck at corp.quepasa.com Wed Mar 15 11:14:31 2000 From: sinck at corp.quepasa.com (sinck@corp.quepasa.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Next meeting References: <38CFC25B.E3AF93D6@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <14543.50423.647916.363932@ip100.corp.quepasa.com> \_ So what's it going to be? Are we doing a virtual meeting, going to the \_ Willow House, or having a regular meeting. Feedback please... :) Depending on timing, I could potentially do a virtual. David From root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net Wed Mar 15 16:22:26 2000 From: root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Next meeting In-Reply-To: <38CFC25B.E3AF93D6@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: I'm flex. I'll plan on being there, either way. -scott On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Douglas E. Miles wrote: > So what's it going to be? Are we doing a virtual meeting, going to the > Willow House, or having a regular meeting. Feedback please... :) > > -- > - Doug > > Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are > Socrates. > From dmiles at primenet.com Wed Mar 15 17:46:15 2000 From: dmiles at primenet.com (Doug and Julie Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: Perl programmer needed Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000315164521.00c98100@pop.primenet.com> Project opportunity... >X-Authentication-Warning: www3.starenterprise.com: Host >dialin-194-29-56-50.nuernberg.gigabell.net [194.29.56.50] claimed to be >starenterprise.com >Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 23:58:06 -0800 >From: Star Enterprise - Tobias Eichner >Reply-To: star@starenterprise.com >Organization: STAR ENTERPRISE - www.starenterprise.com >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win16; I) >To: admin@starenterprise.com >Subject: Perl programmer needed > >Dear Sir or Madam, > >we look for a Perl programmer who can help us for some of our programming >projects. Perhaps you can recommend some people or forward this e-mail to >them directly. > >Currently two projects are open (ad banner management, modification of >existing formmailer), each has a budget of about $400 to $500 USD. > >We look forward to hear from you. > >With kind regards, >Tobias Eichner. From pablo at zunigatech.com Thu Mar 16 00:10:13 2000 From: pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Next meeting References: Message-ID: <001201bf8f0e$4eea1120$0d8c85ce@adsl3.phx.inficad.com> Doug: It's up to you as far as the format (real, virtual, etc.). I have downloaded IRC but need to review further to send out a detailed e-mail outlining how we could meet, etc. As soon as I have that information I will post and we can go from there if that makes sense. I would say expect it in the next week... -Pablo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Walters" To: "Phoenix.pm" Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 3:22 PM Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Next meeting > > I'm flex. > I'll plan on being there, either way. > > -scott > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Douglas E. Miles wrote: > > > So what's it going to be? Are we doing a virtual meeting, going to the > > Willow House, or having a regular meeting. Feedback please... :) > > > > -- > > - Doug > > > > Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are > > Socrates. > > > > From mekla at geocities.com Fri Mar 17 00:18:55 2000 From: mekla at geocities.com (Shay Harding) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: Perl programmer needed In-Reply-To: <4.3.0.20000315164521.00c98100@pop.primenet.com> References: <4.3.0.20000315164521.00c98100@pop.primenet.com> Message-ID: <00031623592201.13781@cx949622-b.poria1.az.home.com> Seems like a lot of jobs, etc have been posted lately so I'd like to take an opportunity to post a few :) The company I work for (CCBill LLC) has several openings for programmers. Currently we employ 5 local and 6 remote programmers. Our main business and programming has to do with online transaction processing (credit cards and checks). We also coded our own Risk Analysis system which we are going to sell as a service to other, larger companies. The programming is varied and always changing. Lots of opportunity to learn and implement new technologies. We program with Perl, C/C++, and PHP3 for production systems and use MySQL as our database backend (may be moving some larger databases to Informix soon though). We also use mod_perl and SpeedyCGI where we think appropriate. Currently we are looking into CORBA use for some of our backend stuff. Most of our servers run FreeBSD, Apache, Mysql. Most of our programmers use RedHat Linux 6.1 or Mandrake 6.2 for development. A few use Windows 98 systems (sorry no Macs). Our IT office is located on corner of Indian School and Central. Pay obviously depends on experience and can range anywhere from $30,000 to $50,000 starting with a salary review after 90 days then yearly thereafter; 5 sick days; 1 week vacation; Medical. Pretty flexible with hours and days off. We operate in a relaxed environment (jeans and t-shirt). We are a pre-IPO Internet company so it can get pretty crazy at times. Have been in business almost 3 years and making a profit (unusual for lots of Internet companies). This year we expect to gross over $100 million and have grown to 53 employees from 12 last year. Also, if you are or know any graphics/HTML/DHTML/Javascript people send them my way. Right now we have programmers doing this work and they (we) don't make very user friendly user interfaces :) There may be some chance to telecommute since we are short on office space. This will be taken on an as needed basis and will not be permanant. We are currently looking for a larger office (again). Well, if you fit any of the above e-mail me with a brief run-down of your experience, etc. I don't need a full-blown resume but more information is always better. Be sure to include contact phone number. Thanks. Shay Harding Project Manager / Senior Developer sharding@ccbill.com CCBill LLC From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Fri Mar 17 11:00:58 2000 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/21/2000 Message-ID: <38D264CA.CAD8D04C@bpxinternet.com> Since it doesn't look like a virtual meeting is going to come together before next tuesday, why don't we meet at the Willow House for a social meeting. We can try for a virtual meeting the next time around. We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Tuesday, March 21st at 7:00PM. It will be held at The Willow House, which is located at 149 W. McDowell Rd., which is just a block west of Bowne. -- For a list of the ways which technology has failed to improve our quality of life, press 3. From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Mon Mar 20 13:28:20 2000 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Reminder: Meeting 03/21/2000 Message-ID: <38D67BD4.D9EAE2F2@bpxinternet.com> Since it doesn't look like a virtual meeting is going to come together before tomorrow, why don't we meet at the Willow House for a social meeting. We can try for a virtual meeting the next time around. We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Tuesday, March 21st at 7:00PM. It will be held at The Willow House, which is located at 149 W. McDowell Rd., which is just a block west of Bowne. -- For a list of the ways which technology has failed to improve our quality of life, press 3. From edelsys at edelsys.com Mon Mar 20 13:57:22 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Reminder: Meeting 03/21/2000 In-Reply-To: <38D67BD4.D9EAE2F2@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000320125722.007aac30@swlink.net> At 12:28 PM 3/20/00 -0700, you wrote: >Since it doesn't look like a virtual meeting is going to come together >before tomorrow, why don't we meet at the Willow House for a social >meeting. We can try for a virtual meeting the next time around. > >We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Tuesday, March 21st at 7:00PM. >It will be held at The Willow House, which is located at 149 W. McDowell >Rd., which is just a block west of Bowne. > >-- >For a list of the ways which technology has failed >to improve our quality of life, press 3. > I'm there, dude. =) From janis at primenet.com Wed Mar 22 14:00:28 2000 From: janis at primenet.com (Janis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Dick Clark on Ice In-Reply-To: <20000126152933.17065.qmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> from "Dave Warner" at Jan 26, 2000 07:29:33 AM Message-ID: <200003222000.NAA14777@usr08.primenet.com> A lot of you missed a fun social meeting last night! For those of you who were there, this is the site I mentioned... for the rest of you :) this site was coded using Perl and Povray. You enter in your own geometric functions and it will plot the 2 or 3-D surface. It will even animate surfaces over a time range. Perl AND math... I'm in heaven. :) http://wims.unice.fr/~wims/ -Heather From dmiles at primenet.com Wed Mar 22 18:45:18 2000 From: dmiles at primenet.com (Doug and Julie Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Dick Clark on Ice In-Reply-To: <200003222000.NAA14777@usr08.primenet.com> References: <20000126152933.17065.qmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000322174504.00e0b250@pop.primenet.com> At 01:00 PM 3/22/00 -0700, you wrote: >A lot of you missed a fun social meeting last night! For those of you who >were there, this is the site I mentioned... for the rest of you :) this >site was coded using Perl and Povray. You enter in your own geometric >functions and it will plot the 2 or 3-D surface. It will even animate >surfaces over a time range. Perl AND math... I'm in heaven. :) > >http://wims.unice.fr/~wims/ > >-Heather Thanks! That's a cool site! From edelsys at edelsys.com Wed Mar 22 20:14:34 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Dick Clark on Ice In-Reply-To: <200003222000.NAA14777@usr08.primenet.com> References: <20000126152933.17065.qmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000322191434.007b04d0@swlink.net> At 01:00 PM 3/22/00 -0700, you wrote: >A lot of you missed a fun social meeting last night! For those of you who >were there, this is the site I mentioned... for the rest of you :) this >site was coded using Perl and Povray. You enter in your own geometric >functions and it will plot the 2 or 3-D surface. It will even animate >surfaces over a time range. Perl AND math... I'm in heaven. :) > >http://wims.unice.fr/~wims/ > >-Heather > Ethernet card on a colocated box that I admin went south last night. I was at my ISP replacing it. =( Tony From dmiles at primenet.com Wed Mar 22 20:19:36 2000 From: dmiles at primenet.com (Doug and Julie Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Dick Clark on Ice In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000322191434.007b04d0@swlink.net> References: <200003222000.NAA14777@usr08.primenet.com> <20000126152933.17065.qmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000322191858.00bfe6f0@pop.primenet.com> At 07:14 PM 3/22/00 -0700, you wrote: >At 01:00 PM 3/22/00 -0700, you wrote: > >A lot of you missed a fun social meeting last night! For those of you who > >were there, this is the site I mentioned... for the rest of you :) this > >site was coded using Perl and Povray. You enter in your own geometric > >functions and it will plot the 2 or 3-D surface. It will even animate > >surfaces over a time range. Perl AND math... I'm in heaven. :) > > > >http://wims.unice.fr/~wims/ > > > >-Heather > > > >Ethernet card on a colocated box that I admin went south last night. >I was at my ISP replacing it. =( Sure. That's what they all say. :) From edelsys at edelsys.com Wed Mar 22 20:32:44 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Dick Clark on Ice In-Reply-To: <4.3.0.20000322191858.00bfe6f0@pop.primenet.com> References: <3.0.6.32.20000322191434.007b04d0@swlink.net> <200003222000.NAA14777@usr08.primenet.com> <20000126152933.17065.qmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000322193244.007bd740@swlink.net> At 07:19 PM 3/22/00 -0700, you wrote: >At 07:14 PM 3/22/00 -0700, you wrote: >>At 01:00 PM 3/22/00 -0700, you wrote: >> >A lot of you missed a fun social meeting last night! For those of you who >> >were there, this is the site I mentioned... for the rest of you :) this >> >site was coded using Perl and Povray. You enter in your own geometric >> >functions and it will plot the 2 or 3-D surface. It will even animate >> >surfaces over a time range. Perl AND math... I'm in heaven. :) >> > >> >http://wims.unice.fr/~wims/ >> > >> >-Heather >> > >> >>Ethernet card on a colocated box that I admin went south last night. >>I was at my ISP replacing it. =( > >Sure. That's what they all say. :) > I'm over there tonight again. It's Interwrx, in Mesa. Phone me a 480-968-6438 and I will give you directions. =) Tony From dmiles at primenet.com Wed Mar 22 20:43:32 2000 From: dmiles at primenet.com (Doug and Julie Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Dick Clark on Ice In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000322193244.007bd740@swlink.net> References: <4.3.0.20000322191858.00bfe6f0@pop.primenet.com> <3.0.6.32.20000322191434.007b04d0@swlink.net> <200003222000.NAA14777@usr08.primenet.com> <20000126152933.17065.qmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000322194255.00d8cc40@pop.primenet.com> At 07:32 PM 3/22/00 -0700, you wrote: >At 07:19 PM 3/22/00 -0700, you wrote: > >At 07:14 PM 3/22/00 -0700, you wrote: > >>At 01:00 PM 3/22/00 -0700, you wrote: > >> >A lot of you missed a fun social meeting last night! For those of > you who > >> >were there, this is the site I mentioned... for the rest of you :) this > >> >site was coded using Perl and Povray. You enter in your own geometric > >> >functions and it will plot the 2 or 3-D surface. It will even animate > >> >surfaces over a time range. Perl AND math... I'm in heaven. :) > >> > > >> >http://wims.unice.fr/~wims/ > >> > > >> >-Heather > >> > > >> > >>Ethernet card on a colocated box that I admin went south last night. > >>I was at my ISP replacing it. =( > > > >Sure. That's what they all say. :) > > > >I'm over there tonight again. It's Interwrx, in Mesa. >Phone me a 480-968-6438 and I will give you directions. =) Just kidding. :) I hope things go smoothly for you tonight. From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Tue Mar 28 11:45:50 2000 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting Message-ID: <38E0EFCE.BEA5B361@bpxinternet.com> If we want to have a virtual meeting next week, we'd better start planning now. Any volunteers to head it up? I think the consensus was the IRC is the best way to go (cross-platform, slices, dices, chops, yada, yada, yada). If this isn't going to come together, I need to know soon so I can make other arrangements. -- - Doug Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are Socrates. From edelsys at edelsys.com Tue Mar 28 11:59:54 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting In-Reply-To: <38E0EFCE.BEA5B361@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000328105954.0079f320@swlink.net> At 10:45 AM 3/28/00 -0700, you wrote: >If we want to have a virtual meeting next week, we'd better start >planning now. Any volunteers to head it up? I think the consensus was >the IRC is the best way to go (cross-platform, slices, dices, chops, >yada, yada, yada). If this isn't going to come together, I need to know >soon so I can make other arrangements. > >-- >- Doug > >Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are >Socrates. > I want ops on the bot! =) Tony -- -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 -- From pablo at zunigatech.com Tue Mar 28 12:23:06 2000 From: pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting References: <38E0EFCE.BEA5B361@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <005e01bf98e2$aa4b0fa0$ce91dcd0@adsl3.phx.inficad.com> Doug: I'll begin researching this tonight. Though I've never used IRC, perhaps someone with more experience using IRC can run this first one...if not, I'll get you some answers by tomorrow morning... -Pablo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas E. Miles" To: "Phoenix.pm" Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 10:45 AM Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting > If we want to have a virtual meeting next week, we'd better start > planning now. Any volunteers to head it up? I think the consensus was > the IRC is the best way to go (cross-platform, slices, dices, chops, > yada, yada, yada). If this isn't going to come together, I need to know > soon so I can make other arrangements. > > -- > - Doug > > Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are > Socrates. > From edelsys at edelsys.com Tue Mar 28 12:27:02 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting In-Reply-To: <005e01bf98e2$aa4b0fa0$ce91dcd0@adsl3.phx.inficad.com> References: <38E0EFCE.BEA5B361@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000328112702.007ab1a0@swlink.net> At 11:23 AM 3/28/00 -0700, you wrote: >Doug: >I'll begin researching this tonight. Though I've never used IRC, perhaps >someone with more experience using IRC can run this first one...if not, I'll >get you some answers by tomorrow morning... > >-Pablo Sure, I can run it. =) > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Douglas E. Miles" >To: "Phoenix.pm" >Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 10:45 AM >Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting > > >> If we want to have a virtual meeting next week, we'd better start >> planning now. Any volunteers to head it up? I think the consensus was >> the IRC is the best way to go (cross-platform, slices, dices, chops, >> yada, yada, yada). If this isn't going to come together, I need to know >> soon so I can make other arrangements. >> >> -- >> - Doug >> >> Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are >> Socrates. >> > -- -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 -- From pablo at zunigatech.com Tue Mar 28 13:49:05 2000 From: pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting References: <38E0EFCE.BEA5B361@bpxinternet.com> <3.0.6.32.20000328112702.007ab1a0@swlink.net> Message-ID: <009201bf98ee$afa2be60$ce91dcd0@adsl3.phx.inficad.com> Tony: Thanks so much for your e-mail... Does it make sense to send out an "invitation" a couple of days before the meeting on this list with "directions"... perhaps (based on an e-mail you sent me): Server Name = Group Name = #phoenix.pm To join the meeting just type = /join #phoenix.pm To download software you can go to = www.irc.com Something like that? -Pablo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. ----- Original Message ----- From: "EdelSys Consulting" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting > At 11:23 AM 3/28/00 -0700, you wrote: > >Doug: > >I'll begin researching this tonight. Though I've never used IRC, perhaps > >someone with more experience using IRC can run this first one...if not, I'll > >get you some answers by tomorrow morning... > > > >-Pablo > > Sure, I can run it. =) > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Douglas E. Miles" > >To: "Phoenix.pm" > >Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 10:45 AM > >Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting > > > > > >> If we want to have a virtual meeting next week, we'd better start > >> planning now. Any volunteers to head it up? I think the consensus was > >> the IRC is the best way to go (cross-platform, slices, dices, chops, > >> yada, yada, yada). If this isn't going to come together, I need to know > >> soon so I can make other arrangements. > >> > >> -- > >> - Doug > >> > >> Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are > >> Socrates. > >> > > > > -- > -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting > -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com > -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord > -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf > -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 > -- > From edelsys at edelsys.com Tue Mar 28 14:00:43 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting In-Reply-To: <009201bf98ee$afa2be60$ce91dcd0@adsl3.phx.inficad.com> References: <38E0EFCE.BEA5B361@bpxinternet.com> <3.0.6.32.20000328112702.007ab1a0@swlink.net> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000328130043.0079dc70@swlink.net> At 12:49 PM 3/28/00 -0700, you wrote: >Tony: >Thanks so much for your e-mail... Does it make sense to send out an >"invitation" a couple of days before the meeting on this list with >"directions"... perhaps (based on an e-mail you sent me): > >Server Name = >Group Name = #phoenix.pm Servers: irc.concentric.net irc.mcs.net irc.core.com irc.prison.net irc.primenet.com Those are some good ones. A complete list is available at: http://www.efnet.net/servers.html Channel Name: #phoenix.pm > >To join the meeting just type = /join #phoenix.pm > >To download software you can go to = www.irc.com > You can download mirc from tucows.interwrx.com >Something like that? > >-Pablo > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain >confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No >confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. >If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all >copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the >sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, >print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended >recipient. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "EdelSys Consulting" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 11:27 AM >Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting > > >> At 11:23 AM 3/28/00 -0700, you wrote: >> >Doug: >> >I'll begin researching this tonight. Though I've never used IRC, perhaps >> >someone with more experience using IRC can run this first one...if not, >I'll >> >get you some answers by tomorrow morning... >> > >> >-Pablo >> >> Sure, I can run it. =) >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Douglas E. Miles" >> >To: "Phoenix.pm" >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 10:45 AM >> >Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting >> > >> > >> >> If we want to have a virtual meeting next week, we'd better start >> >> planning now. Any volunteers to head it up? I think the consensus was >> >> the IRC is the best way to go (cross-platform, slices, dices, chops, >> >> yada, yada, yada). If this isn't going to come together, I need to >know >> >> soon so I can make other arrangements. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> - Doug >> >> >> >> Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are >> >> Socrates. >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting >> -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com >> -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord >> -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf >> -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 >> -- >> > -- -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 -- From Mark.Pease at motorola.com Tue Mar 28 15:42:15 2000 From: Mark.Pease at motorola.com (Mark Pease) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting References: <38E0EFCE.BEA5B361@bpxinternet.com> <3.0.6.32.20000328112702.007ab1a0@swlink.net> <3.0.6.32.20000328130043.0079dc70@swlink.net> Message-ID: <38E12737.B0FF531E@motorola.com> Has anybody looked at using something like http://www.webex.com for a virtual meeting? It looks like it would do a better job that just using IRC. -- Mark Pease Mark.Pease@motorola.com Motorola DigitalDNA(tm) Laboratories perl@perl.sps.mot.com 2200 W. Broadway Rd. Phone:(480)655-6950 Mail Stop: AZ09 M350 Mesa, AZ 85202 Pager:(800)381-3304 FAX:(480)655-6192 Co-Author (with Carl Dichter) of "Software Engineering with Perl" From edelsys at edelsys.com Tue Mar 28 15:57:40 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting In-Reply-To: <38E12737.B0FF531E@motorola.com> References: <38E0EFCE.BEA5B361@bpxinternet.com> <3.0.6.32.20000328112702.007ab1a0@swlink.net> <3.0.6.32.20000328130043.0079dc70@swlink.net> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000328145740.007ab500@swlink.net> At 02:42 PM 3/28/00 -0700, you wrote: >Has anybody looked at using something like http://www.webex.com for >a virtual meeting? It looks like it would do a better job that just >using IRC. > Nah, web based chat is lame. IRC is where it's at. =) >-- >Mark Pease Mark.Pease@motorola.com >Motorola DigitalDNA(tm) Laboratories perl@perl.sps.mot.com >2200 W. Broadway Rd. Phone:(480)655-6950 Mail Stop: AZ09 M350 >Mesa, AZ 85202 Pager:(800)381-3304 FAX:(480)655-6192 > Co-Author (with Carl Dichter) of "Software Engineering with Perl" > -- -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 -- From dmiles at primenet.com Tue Mar 28 17:46:36 2000 From: dmiles at primenet.com (Doug and Julie Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: Job Opportunity Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000328164402.00defa10@pop.primenet.com> >From: "Bob Proctor" >To: >Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:39:16 -0700 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 > > >Hello Doug > >I have a question for you. >Do you know of any Perl developers that would be interested in a senior >level position. >We have a company that is looking for a developer to work on a start-up >project and get it rolling. >They will look at contract or permanent but prefer a permanent person. > >If you do know someone if you could forward them this message that would >be great. > >Thank You in advance for you help > > >Bob Proctor >Technical Recruiting >Specialist bobp@itconnections.com >IT Connections, Inc. 602.240.7711 Ext. 16 > From jimm at amug.org Tue Mar 28 19:12:28 2000 From: jimm at amug.org (jim) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting References: <38E0EFCE.BEA5B361@bpxinternet.com> <3.0.6.32.20000328112702.007ab1a0@swlink.net> <3.0.6.32.20000328130043.0079dc70@swlink.net> <3.0.6.32.20000328145740.007ab500@swlink.net> Message-ID: <38E1587C.EE972A84@amug.org> EdelSys Consulting wrote: > At 02:42 PM 3/28/00 -0700, you wrote: > >Has anybody looked at using something like http://www.webex.com for > >a virtual meeting? It looks like it would do a better job that just > >using IRC. > > > > Nah, web based chat is lame. > IRC is where it's at. =) > How about talkcity.com? They have a web based chat but you can also log in through irc at chat.talkcity.com > > >-- > >Mark Pease Mark.Pease@motorola.com > >Motorola DigitalDNA(tm) Laboratories perl@perl.sps.mot.com > >2200 W. Broadway Rd. Phone:(480)655-6950 Mail Stop: AZ09 M350 > >Mesa, AZ 85202 Pager:(800)381-3304 FAX:(480)655-6192 > > Co-Author (with Carl Dichter) of "Software Engineering with Perl" > > > > -- > -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting > -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com > -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord > -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf > -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 > -- -- A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila. -- Mitch Ratcliffe From edelsys at edelsys.com Tue Mar 28 19:30:50 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting In-Reply-To: <38E1587C.EE972A84@amug.org> References: <38E0EFCE.BEA5B361@bpxinternet.com> <3.0.6.32.20000328112702.007ab1a0@swlink.net> <3.0.6.32.20000328130043.0079dc70@swlink.net> <3.0.6.32.20000328145740.007ab500@swlink.net> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000328183050.007cd450@swlink.net> At 06:12 PM 3/28/00 -0700, you wrote: > > >EdelSys Consulting wrote: > >> At 02:42 PM 3/28/00 -0700, you wrote: >> >Has anybody looked at using something like http://www.webex.com for >> >a virtual meeting? It looks like it would do a better job that just >> >using IRC. >> > >> >> Nah, web based chat is lame. >> IRC is where it's at. =) >> > >How about talkcity.com? They have a web based chat but you can also log in >through irc at chat.talkcity.com > How about this: You find a web-based irc chat client that allows you to connect to EFNet. I'll stick with mirc for windows or X-Chat for X Windows or good old ircii. =) I tell ya, web-based anything is lame. Especially web-based chat. Get thyself to tucows.interwrx.com. Download and install mirc. Be Happy. Tony From root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net Tue Mar 28 20:30:20 2000 From: root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000328183050.007cd450@swlink.net> Message-ID: There are a *LOT* of web based chat systems. Every week or so, I write one or two. Let's use IRC. We're a smart group of people, we can figure it out. You can use any client you want, as long as it's IRC compatable (which happends to be quite a lot of them). I've even written a few. Let's be distributed friendly, standards oriented, and config-freak friendly. Let's use IRC. -scott From edelsys at edelsys.com Tue Mar 28 20:24:22 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20000328183050.007cd450@swlink.net> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000328192422.007cdd40@swlink.net> At 06:30 PM 3/28/00 -0800, you wrote: > >There are a *LOT* of web based chat systems. Every week or so, I write one >or two. Let's use IRC. We're a smart group of people, we can figure it >out. You can use any client you want, as long as it's IRC compatable >(which happends to be quite a lot of them). I've even written a few. Let's >be distributed friendly, standards oriented, and config-freak >friendly. Let's use IRC. > >-scott > > Sometimes I'm so smart, I scare myself. =) From Mark_Pease-RXYE40 at email.sps.mot.com Wed Mar 29 00:15:00 2000 From: Mark_Pease-RXYE40 at email.sps.mot.com (Mark Pease) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting References: Message-ID: <38E19F64.C5B1CAA1@email.sps.mot.com> Scott Walters wrote: > > There are a *LOT* of web based chat systems. Every week or so, I write one > or two. Let's use IRC. We're a smart group of people, we can figure it > out. You can use any client you want, as long as it's IRC compatable > (which happends to be quite a lot of them). I've even written a few. Let's > be distributed friendly, standards oriented, and config-freak > friendly. Let's use IRC. > > -scott Humm... webex is *not* a web based chat system (I happen to think that all chat system are lame.) Webex is a collaborative meeting environment that allows you to have Voice-over-IP or standard Phone based conferencing, shared prensentations/whiteboard, etc. (and a [lame] sync chat system :-) It also allows you to share the presenters desktop, if /(s+)he/ is running under Windoze. Just a thought. -- Mark Pease Mark.Pease@motorola.com Motorola DigitalDNA(tm) Laboratories perl@perl.sps.mot.com 2200 W. Broadway Rd. Phone:(480)655-6950 Mail Stop: AZ09 M350 Mesa, AZ 85202 Pager:(800)381-3304 FAX:(480)655-6192 Co-Author (with Carl Dichter) of "Software Engineering with Perl" From edelsys at edelsys.com Wed Mar 29 00:41:54 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting In-Reply-To: <38E19F64.C5B1CAA1@email.sps.mot.com> References: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000328234154.007c7150@swlink.net> At 11:15 PM 3/28/00 -0700, you wrote: >Scott Walters wrote: >> >> There are a *LOT* of web based chat systems. Every week or so, I write one >> or two. Let's use IRC. We're a smart group of people, we can figure it >> out. You can use any client you want, as long as it's IRC compatable >> (which happends to be quite a lot of them). I've even written a few. Let's >> be distributed friendly, standards oriented, and config-freak >> friendly. Let's use IRC. >> >> -scott > > >Humm... webex is *not* a web based chat system (I happen to think that >all chat system are lame.) Webex is a collaborative meeting environment >that allows you to have Voice-over-IP or standard Phone based >conferencing, shared prensentations/whiteboard, etc. (and a [lame] sync >chat system :-) It also allows you to share the presenters desktop, if >/(s+)he/ is running under Windoze. > I'll stick with irc. =) By the way, I am putting a bot on #phoenix.pm, to keep the channel opened. Anyone want to join in, I will see you there. My nick is Teratogen. Tony -- -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 -- From edelsys at edelsys.com Wed Mar 29 01:00:00 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting In-Reply-To: <38E19F64.C5B1CAA1@email.sps.mot.com> References: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000329000000.007ca100@swlink.net> At 11:15 PM 3/28/00 -0700, you wrote: >Scott Walters wrote: >> >> There are a *LOT* of web based chat systems. Every week or so, I write one >> or two. Let's use IRC. We're a smart group of people, we can figure it >> out. You can use any client you want, as long as it's IRC compatable >> (which happends to be quite a lot of them). I've even written a few. Let's >> be distributed friendly, standards oriented, and config-freak >> friendly. Let's use IRC. >> >> -scott > > >Humm... webex is *not* a web based chat system (I happen to think that >all chat system are lame.) Webex is a collaborative meeting environment >that allows you to have Voice-over-IP or standard Phone based >conferencing, shared prensentations/whiteboard, etc. (and a [lame] sync >chat system :-) It also allows you to share the presenters desktop, if >/(s+)he/ is running under Windoze. > Also, I suppose we could REALLY lame out and do this on ICQ. ;-) -- -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 -- From sinck at corp.quepasa.com Wed Mar 29 10:53:31 2000 From: sinck at corp.quepasa.com (sinck@corp.quepasa.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Virtual Meeting References: <3.0.6.32.20000328234154.007c7150@swlink.net> Message-ID: <14562.13579.260479.532538@ip100.corp.quepasa.com> \_ By the way, I am putting a bot on #phoenix.pm, to keep the channel \_ opened. Anyone want to join in, I will see you there. My nick \_ is Teratogen. I'm there, but it's all quiet right at the moment... $nick = 'kitchen'; David hmm, where's the man page on xchat to bring it up when something happens if it's iconified.... From edelsys at edelsys.com Thu Mar 30 01:03:24 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: perl position Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000330000324.007a0210@swlink.net> Here's a possible perl position that I gleaned off the AZIPA mailing list: Candidate will provide architecture and new development towards internet projects. Most development will be done from scratch. Must be able to hit the ground running. Must be a senior Perl Programmer. No training will be probided. The candidate must be creative and have experience with CGI, HTML,DHTML. Development will be done on a Unix Platform. Any interested parties can reach me at IT Connections 602-240-77711 ext 16 or 800-655-1644. Also bobp@itconnections.com Thanks again Bob -- -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 -- From edelsys at edelsys.com Thu Mar 30 01:05:00 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: an infobot, for your comfort and convenience Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000330000500.007bc2e0@swlink.net> Ladies and Gents: For your comfort and convenience, the EFNet IRC #phoenix.pm channel now has an infobot. His/her (not sure of gender yet) name is infomatic. Enjoy! Tony -- -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 -- From pablo at zunigatech.com Thu Mar 30 13:05:04 2000 From: pablo at zunigatech.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: an infobot, for your comfort and convenience References: <3.0.6.32.20000330000500.007bc2e0@swlink.net> Message-ID: <005d01bf9a7a$e296e250$ce91dcd0@adsl3.phx.inficad.com> Greetings: Our server is having problems and I'm researching some type of Perl monitoring system. A beeper should be arriving this Friday so I can e-mail-to-the-beeper is the server goes down. Does anyone have suggestions for possible Perl programs they've used to monitor a server, http, mysql (to make sure it's still responding)? Sure would appreciate it, thanks! -Pablo From sinck at corp.quepasa.com Thu Mar 30 13:09:08 2000 From: sinck at corp.quepasa.com (sinck@corp.quepasa.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: an infobot, for your comfort and convenience References: <3.0.6.32.20000330000500.007bc2e0@swlink.net> <005d01bf9a7a$e296e250$ce91dcd0@adsl3.phx.inficad.com> Message-ID: <14563.42580.888061.579059@ip100.corp.quepasa.com> \_ Greetings: \_ Our server is having problems and I'm researching some type of Perl \_ monitoring system. A beeper should be arriving this Friday so I can \_ e-mail-to-the-beeper is the server goes down. \_ \_ Does anyone have suggestions for possible Perl programs they've used to \_ monitor a server, http, mysql (to make sure it's still responding)? search freshmeat for 'saint' mebbe? David From root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net Thu Mar 30 13:54:01 2000 From: root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: an infobot, for your comfort and convenience In-Reply-To: <005d01bf9a7a$e296e250$ce91dcd0@adsl3.phx.inficad.com> Message-ID: Pablo, I'm certain that with the POSIX.pm or the network features built into Perl you could ping, but off the top of my head, if I were you, I would use good old LWP on a monitor server, and have it hit a script on the production server, and verify that it doesn't time out, get connect refused or any error - and also gets back the desired content from that page/script. -scott On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Pablo Velasquez wrote: > Greetings: > Our server is having problems and I'm researching some type of Perl > monitoring system. A beeper should be arriving this Friday so I can > e-mail-to-the-beeper is the server goes down. > > Does anyone have suggestions for possible Perl programs they've used to > monitor a server, http, mysql (to make sure it's still responding)? > > Sure would appreciate it, thanks! > > -Pablo > > From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Thu Mar 30 13:16:58 2000 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: an infobot, for your comfort and convenience References: <3.0.6.32.20000330000500.007bc2e0@swlink.net> <005d01bf9a7a$e296e250$ce91dcd0@adsl3.phx.inficad.com> Message-ID: <38E3A82A.F607EC1@bpxinternet.com> Pablo Velasquez wrote: > > Greetings: > Our server is having problems and I'm researching some type of Perl > monitoring system. A beeper should be arriving this Friday so I can > e-mail-to-the-beeper is the server goes down. > > Does anyone have suggestions for possible Perl programs they've used to > monitor a server, http, mysql (to make sure it's still responding)? > > Sure would appreciate it, thanks! > > -Pablo I don't know of anything off hand, but you should be able to hack something together pretty quickly using: LWP (HTTP stuff) DBI DBD::mysql MIME::Lite I've used all of these in some way or another, and all are pretty simple to use. Use LWP to request a page from the web server, DBI/DBD::mysql to connect to MySQL, and MIME::Lite to send out the errors when they occur. Good luck! -- - Doug Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore, all mortals are Socrates. From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Thu Mar 30 13:26:05 2000 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 04/4/2000 Message-ID: <38E3AA4D.A9529000@bpxinternet.com> We'll be having a virtual Phoenix.pm meeting Tuesday, April 4th at 7:00PM. It will be held in #phoenix.pm on EFNet IRC. It will be open discussion. Tony already has it set up, so if you are new to IRC (like me) I would recommend that you download the approriate software for your platform and give it a try before meeting time. Post your questions/problems to the list, as someone else might have the same question/problem. -- For a list of the ways which technology has failed to improve our quality of life, press 3. From root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net Thu Mar 30 14:31:45 2000 From: root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 04/4/2000 In-Reply-To: <38E3AA4D.A9529000@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: I suggest at some point during the evening, we all swing by and visit #perl. The people there are extremely friendly, and welcome visits from all sorts of Perlmongers. =| -scott On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Douglas E. Miles wrote: > We'll be having a virtual Phoenix.pm meeting Tuesday, April 4th at > 7:00PM. > It will be held in #phoenix.pm on EFNet IRC. It will be open > discussion. Tony already has it set up, so if you are new to IRC (like > me) I would recommend that you download the approriate software for your > platform and give it a try before meeting time. Post your > questions/problems to the list, as someone else might have the same > question/problem. > > -- > For a list of the ways which technology has failed > to improve our quality of life, press 3. > From sinck at corp.quepasa.com Thu Mar 30 14:07:10 2000 From: sinck at corp.quepasa.com (sinck@corp.quepasa.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 04/4/2000 References: <38E3AA4D.A9529000@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <14563.46062.193944.411063@ip100.corp.quepasa.com> \_ \_ I suggest at some point during the evening, we all swing by and visit \_ #perl. The people there are extremely friendly, and welcome visits from \_ all sorts of Perlmongers. =| \_ \_ -scott I'm having a bit of an issue connecting to EFNet for #perl ** Looking up 203.37.45.2.. *** Connecting to 203.37.45.2 (203.37.45.2) port 6667.. *** Connected. Now logging in.. *** AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname... *** AUTH :*** Found your hostname, cached *** AUTH :*** Checking Ident *** Disconnected. I was having similar issues with #phoenix.pm on the servers Tony listed, but I installed identd and it all went away. But EFNet doesn't like me much for reasons I dunno. linux/RH6.1/xchat Pointers? TIA David From edelsys at edelsys.com Thu Mar 30 14:21:19 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 04/4/2000 In-Reply-To: References: <38E3AA4D.A9529000@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000330132119.007a0850@swlink.net> At 12:31 PM 3/30/00 -0800, you wrote: > >I suggest at some point during the evening, we all swing by and visit >#perl. The people there are extremely friendly, and welcome visits from >all sorts of Perlmongers. =| > Not me. I am banned there. =) However, I have ops on #java, #javascript, #cgi, and #poetry. So you might want to drop by those channels too. Friendly people there! Tony >-scott > >On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Douglas E. Miles wrote: > >> We'll be having a virtual Phoenix.pm meeting Tuesday, April 4th at >> 7:00PM. >> It will be held in #phoenix.pm on EFNet IRC. It will be open >> discussion. Tony already has it set up, so if you are new to IRC (like >> me) I would recommend that you download the approriate software for your >> platform and give it a try before meeting time. Post your >> questions/problems to the list, as someone else might have the same >> question/problem. >> >> -- >> For a list of the ways which technology has failed >> to improve our quality of life, press 3. >> > -- -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 -- From root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net Thu Mar 30 15:21:22 2000 From: root at nebuchadnezzar.slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 04/4/2000 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000330132119.007a0850@swlink.net> Message-ID: I've always wondered what kind of people get ops on those. Re: connecting to EFNet, yes, that is overkill. I would rather not deal with the spam, splits, channel nazis, identd security, etc. If a quick concensus of the people who voted for IRC says to use a private server, we can do that. Someone who I work with has kindly made theirs available for this purpose if we wish to take advantage of it. That offer is up. -scott On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, EdelSys Consulting wrote: > At 12:31 PM 3/30/00 -0800, you wrote: > > > >I suggest at some point during the evening, we all swing by and visit > >#perl. The people there are extremely friendly, and welcome visits from > >all sorts of Perlmongers. =| > > > > Not me. I am banned there. =) However, I have ops on #java, #javascript, > #cgi, and #poetry. So you might want to drop by those channels too. > Friendly people there! > > Tony > > >-scott > > > >On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Douglas E. Miles wrote: > > > >> We'll be having a virtual Phoenix.pm meeting Tuesday, April 4th at > >> 7:00PM. > >> It will be held in #phoenix.pm on EFNet IRC. It will be open > >> discussion. Tony already has it set up, so if you are new to IRC (like > >> me) I would recommend that you download the approriate software for your > >> platform and give it a try before meeting time. Post your > >> questions/problems to the list, as someone else might have the same > >> question/problem. > >> > >> -- > >> For a list of the ways which technology has failed > >> to improve our quality of life, press 3. > >> > > > > -- > -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting > -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com > -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord > -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf > -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 > -- > From edelsys at edelsys.com Thu Mar 30 14:55:19 2000 From: edelsys at edelsys.com (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 04/4/2000 In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20000330132119.007a0850@swlink.net> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000330135519.007b3100@swlink.net> At 01:21 PM 3/30/00 -0800, you wrote: > >I've always wondered what kind of people get ops on those. >Re: connecting to EFNet, yes, that is overkill. I would rather not deal >with the spam, splits, channel nazis, identd security, etc. If a quick >concensus of the people who voted for IRC says to use a private server, we >can do that. Someone who I work with has kindly made theirs available for >this purpose if we wish to take advantage of it. That offer is up. > >-scott > Sure. Doesn't really matter what server we use. EFNet is just the oldest and most popular irc NETWORK (of servers). We just all need to agree what server(s) and channel (#phoenix.pm) and date and time to meet. I've already set everything up on EFNet, but if everyone agrees to move to another server or network, that's fine with me. =) Tony >On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, EdelSys Consulting wrote: > >> At 12:31 PM 3/30/00 -0800, you wrote: >> > >> >I suggest at some point during the evening, we all swing by and visit >> >#perl. The people there are extremely friendly, and welcome visits from >> >all sorts of Perlmongers. =| >> > >> >> Not me. I am banned there. =) However, I have ops on #java, #javascript, >> #cgi, and #poetry. So you might want to drop by those channels too. >> Friendly people there! >> >> Tony >> >> >-scott >> > >> >On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Douglas E. Miles wrote: >> > >> >> We'll be having a virtual Phoenix.pm meeting Tuesday, April 4th at >> >> 7:00PM. >> >> It will be held in #phoenix.pm on EFNet IRC. It will be open >> >> discussion. Tony already has it set up, so if you are new to IRC (like >> >> me) I would recommend that you download the approriate software for your >> >> platform and give it a try before meeting time. Post your >> >> questions/problems to the list, as someone else might have the same >> >> question/problem. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> For a list of the ways which technology has failed >> >> to improve our quality of life, press 3. >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting >> -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com >> -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord >> -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf >> -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 >> -- >> > -- -- Anthony R. Nemmer -- EdelSys Consulting -- http://www.swlink.net/~edelsys -- edelsys@edelsys.com -- ICQ #14638605 -- EFNet IRC Nicks: Teratogen PerlGod LLamaLord -- vCard: http://www.edelsys.com/edelsys.vcf -- (480) 968-6438 -- P.O. Box 1883, Tempe, Arizona 85280-1883 -- From p at dancris.com Thu Mar 30 15:45:28 2000 From: p at dancris.com (Peter J Jones) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:07 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: an infobot, for your comfort and convenience References: <3.0.6.32.20000330000500.007bc2e0@swlink.net> <005d01bf9a7a$e296e250$ce91dcd0@adsl3.phx.inficad.com> Message-ID: <38E3CAF8.A2C861B7@dancris.com> I use a very good perl script called mon. take a look at http://www.kernel.org/software/mon Pablo Velasquez wrote: > Greetings: > Our server is having problems and I'm researching some type of Perl > monitoring system. A beeper should be arriving this Friday so I can > e-mail-to-the-beeper is the server goes down. > > Does anyone have suggestions for possible Perl programs they've used to > monitor a server, http, mysql (to make sure it's still responding)? > > Sure would appreciate it, thanks! > > -Pablo -- ........................................................................ : Peter J Jones : Unix/Perl Geek : : Surprise, Arizona : Four Wheeling : : www.dancris.com/~p : Jesus Freak : :...................................:..................................: :"... it doesn't work anymore, get me some black tape!" -- Bill Kitchen: :......................................................................: