From sdn.phlpm at mailnull.com  Mon Aug  1 04:57:34 2011
From: sdn.phlpm at mailnull.com (Eric Roode)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 07:57:34 -0400
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] August Meeting: August 1, 7 PM, Nodding Head
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I'd like to attend, but it conflicts with my daughters' annual swim
team awards ceremony.  One of these months I'm bound to make it to a
Perl gathering, though!

-- Eric

On 7/31/11, Walt Mankowski <waltman at pobox.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 01:27:05PM -0400, Randall Sindlinger wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Walt Mankowski <waltman at pobox.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks, that's good to know.  If we don't have anything to present, I
>> > suppose we could do an hour of Q&A and then go get something to eat in
>> > the neighborhood.  Or we could just meet at a restaurant.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts either way?
>> >
>> > Walt
>> >
>
>> I was definitely planning on attending.  I think keeping it a bit
>> more "official" and convening for a bit, if only for Q & A, would be
>> worthwhile.  It's great that Darian can keep the space for us, but
>> I'd still consider it a "use it or lose it" situation.  There are
>> plenty of folks that will just commandeer space if no one seems to
>> be using it :-)
>
> Well, we've had one vote for having the meeting anyway, and one vote
> (off-list) for Nodding Head.  Since no one else seems to care, and
> since it's easier for me to get home from Nodding Head, I'm going to
> use my executive (or former executive) fiat and say that we're going
> to meet at Nodding Head Brewpub at 7 PM. Nodding Head is at 1516
> Sansom St.  According to their website they've got their Berliner
> Weisse on tap, which is another reason we should go there!
>
>> On another note, I am definitely interested in keeping this group
>> alive; I've changed jobs, and no longer work for Penn, but my new
>> position involves a lot of perl scripting, now on unix *and*
>> windows.  As such, PerlMongers has become more relevant to me than
>> PLUG (Philly Linux User's Group).  Phl.pm and PLUG compete with each
>> other slightly in that they are both evening meetings the 1st week
>> of the month; when push comes to shove, I'll be choosing to make
>> room for phl.pm over PLUG.
>
> I'd like to keep the group alive, too.  But the problem we've had in
> the past is getting people to give talks.  I'm not as good an
> arm-twister as Chris is, and that, as much as anything, is why the
> group devolved into just getting together for beers 3 or 4 times a
> year.
>
> The first Monday of the month isn't great timing for me, but I'm not
> sure what would be better. One problem is that we lose July and
> September for holidays. We'll also lose January 2012 for New Years.
>
> Walt
>

-- 
Sent from my mobile device

From rsindlin at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 07:11:27 2011
From: rsindlin at gmail.com (Randall Sindlinger)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 10:11:27 -0400
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] August Meeting: August 1, 7 PM, Nodding Head
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On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Walt Mankowski <waltman at pobox.com> wrote:

> > I was definitely planning on attending.  I think keeping it a bit
> > more "official" and convening for a bit, if only for Q & A, would be
> > worthwhile.  It's great that Darian can keep the space for us, but
> > I'd still consider it a "use it or lose it" situation.  There are
> > plenty of folks that will just commandeer space if no one seems to
> > be using it :-)
>
> Well, we've had one vote for having the meeting anyway, and one vote
> (off-list) for Nodding Head.  Since no one else seems to care, and
> since it's easier for me to get home from Nodding Head, I'm going to
> use my executive (or former executive) fiat and say that we're going
> to meet at Nodding Head Brewpub at 7 PM. Nodding Head is at 1516
> Sansom St.  According to their website they've got their Berliner
> Weisse on tap, which is another reason we should go there!
>
> Well, now it turns out I won't be there, after all.  My wife just broke her
finger
yesterday... wait - Saturday?  it's been a blur.  Anyway, she's still in a
fair bit
of pain, and cooking, dishes, and other "simple" stuff that requires
dexterity is
difficult if not impossible for her right now, so I'm heading straight home
after work.

Sorry!
-Randall
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From brainbuz at brainbuz.org  Mon Aug  1 08:03:26 2011
From: brainbuz at brainbuz.org (John Karr)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:03:26 +0000
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] August Meeting: August 1, 7 PM, Nodding Head
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I won't be able to make it I'm packing for a trip tonight.
________________________________________
From: philadelphia-pm-bounces+brainbuz=brainbuz.org at pm.org [philadelphia-pm-bounces+brainbuz=brainbuz.org at pm.org] on behalf of Randall Sindlinger [rsindlin at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:11 AM
To: philadelphia-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re: [Philadelphia-pm] August Meeting: August 1, 7 PM, Nodding Head

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Walt Mankowski <waltman at pobox.com<mailto:waltman at pobox.com>> wrote:
> I was definitely planning on attending.  I think keeping it a bit
> more "official" and convening for a bit, if only for Q & A, would be
> worthwhile.  It's great that Darian can keep the space for us, but
> I'd still consider it a "use it or lose it" situation.  There are
> plenty of folks that will just commandeer space if no one seems to
> be using it :-)

Well, we've had one vote for having the meeting anyway, and one vote
(off-list) for Nodding Head.  Since no one else seems to care, and
since it's easier for me to get home from Nodding Head, I'm going to
use my executive (or former executive) fiat and say that we're going
to meet at Nodding Head Brewpub at 7 PM. Nodding Head is at 1516
Sansom St.  According to their website they've got their Berliner
Weisse on tap, which is another reason we should go there!

Well, now it turns out I won't be there, after all.  My wife just broke her finger
yesterday... wait - Saturday?  it's been a blur.  Anyway, she's still in a fair bit
of pain, and cooking, dishes, and other "simple" stuff that requires dexterity is
difficult if not impossible for her right now, so I'm heading straight home after work.

Sorry!
-Randall

From waltman at pobox.com  Mon Aug  1 08:08:36 2011
From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 11:08:36 -0400
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] August Meeting: August 1, 7 PM, Nodding Head
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Is anyone going to make it tonight?  If you are, please RSVP so I know
how many people to expect.  Their happy hour runs 5-7, so I'll
probably be there by 6:45 so I can get at least one cheap Berliner
Weisse.

Walt

On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 03:03:26PM +0000, John Karr wrote:
> I won't be able to make it I'm packing for a trip tonight.
> ________________________________________
> From: philadelphia-pm-bounces+brainbuz=brainbuz.org at pm.org [philadelphia-pm-bounces+brainbuz=brainbuz.org at pm.org] on behalf of Randall Sindlinger [rsindlin at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:11 AM
> To: philadelphia-pm at pm.org
> Subject: Re: [Philadelphia-pm] August Meeting: August 1, 7 PM, Nodding Head
> 
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Walt Mankowski <waltman at pobox.com<mailto:waltman at pobox.com>> wrote:
> > I was definitely planning on attending.  I think keeping it a bit
> > more "official" and convening for a bit, if only for Q & A, would be
> > worthwhile.  It's great that Darian can keep the space for us, but
> > I'd still consider it a "use it or lose it" situation.  There are
> > plenty of folks that will just commandeer space if no one seems to
> > be using it :-)
> 
> Well, we've had one vote for having the meeting anyway, and one vote
> (off-list) for Nodding Head.  Since no one else seems to care, and
> since it's easier for me to get home from Nodding Head, I'm going to
> use my executive (or former executive) fiat and say that we're going
> to meet at Nodding Head Brewpub at 7 PM. Nodding Head is at 1516
> Sansom St.  According to their website they've got their Berliner
> Weisse on tap, which is another reason we should go there!
> 
> Well, now it turns out I won't be there, after all.  My wife just broke her finger
> yesterday... wait - Saturday?  it's been a blur.  Anyway, she's still in a fair bit
> of pain, and cooking, dishes, and other "simple" stuff that requires dexterity is
> difficult if not impossible for her right now, so I'm heading straight home after work.
> 
> Sorry!
> -Randall
> _______________________________________________
> Philadelphia-pm mailing list
> Philadelphia-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/philadelphia-pm
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From darianp at sas.upenn.edu  Mon Aug  1 08:27:52 2011
From: darianp at sas.upenn.edu (Darian Patrick)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 10:27:52 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] August Meeting: August 1, 7 PM, Nodding Head
In-Reply-To: <20110801150835.GA3311@mawode.com>
Message-ID: <141936455.14314.1312212472818.JavaMail.root@mail-5.01.com>

I'll be there.

Beers,

Darian

----- Original Message -----
> Is anyone going to make it tonight?  If you are, please RSVP so I
> know
> how many people to expect.  Their happy hour runs 5-7, so I'll
> probably be there by 6:45 so I can get at least one cheap Berliner
> Weisse.
> 
> Walt
> 
> On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 03:03:26PM +0000, John Karr wrote:
> > I won't be able to make it I'm packing for a trip tonight.
> > ________________________________________
> > From: philadelphia-pm-bounces+brainbuz=brainbuz.org at pm.org
> > [philadelphia-pm-bounces+brainbuz=brainbuz.org at pm.org] on behalf
> > of Randall Sindlinger [rsindlin at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:11 AM
> > To: philadelphia-pm at pm.org
> > Subject: Re: [Philadelphia-pm] August Meeting: August 1, 7 PM,
> > Nodding Head
> > 
> > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Walt Mankowski
> > <waltman at pobox.com<mailto:waltman at pobox.com>> wrote:
> > > I was definitely planning on attending.  I think keeping it a bit
> > > more "official" and convening for a bit, if only for Q & A, would
> > > be
> > > worthwhile.  It's great that Darian can keep the space for us,
> > > but
> > > I'd still consider it a "use it or lose it" situation.  There are
> > > plenty of folks that will just commandeer space if no one seems
> > > to
> > > be using it :-)
> > 
> > Well, we've had one vote for having the meeting anyway, and one
> > vote
> > (off-list) for Nodding Head.  Since no one else seems to care, and
> > since it's easier for me to get home from Nodding Head, I'm going
> > to
> > use my executive (or former executive) fiat and say that we're
> > going
> > to meet at Nodding Head Brewpub at 7 PM. Nodding Head is at 1516
> > Sansom St.  According to their website they've got their Berliner
> > Weisse on tap, which is another reason we should go there!
> > 
> > Well, now it turns out I won't be there, after all.  My wife just
> > broke her finger
> > yesterday... wait - Saturday?  it's been a blur.  Anyway, she's
> > still in a fair bit
> > of pain, and cooking, dishes, and other "simple" stuff that
> > requires dexterity is
> > difficult if not impossible for her right now, so I'm heading
> > straight home after work.
> > 
> > Sorry!
> > -Randall
> > _______________________________________________
> > Philadelphia-pm mailing list
> > Philadelphia-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/philadelphia-pm
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Philadelphia-pm mailing list
> Philadelphia-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/philadelphia-pm
> 

From waltman at pobox.com  Tue Aug  2 07:34:15 2011
From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 10:34:15 -0400
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] Followup from last night's meeting
Message-ID: <20110802143415.GO3226@mawode.com>

Thanks again to everyone who came out to Nodding Head last night
despite the nasty weather.  I wanted to follow up on a few things I
mentioned last night.

First, [1] and [2] are some recent threads from the perl5-porters
mailing list discussing problems with the ~~ operator. [3] shows the
scary grid we were talking about last night.

Second, John Siracusa wrote a fantastic review of Lion for Ars
Technica.  It's quite long, but well worth reading if you want an
in-depth analysis of what's changed and where Apple's going in the
future. He covers both high-level UI issues (the new gray-on-grayer
color scheme) and low-level changes such as the file system and memory
management.  The article begins at [4], and [5] is where he talks
about how sandboxing works.  As John pointed out last night, it's not
clear how that prevents a malicious app from calling system functions
like open(2) or unlink(2) directly.

Walt


1. http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2011-07/msg00214.html
2. http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2011-07/msg00226.html
3. http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#Smart-matching-in-detail
4. http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7.ars
5. http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7.ars/9#sandboxing
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From darian at criticode.com  Tue Aug 16 14:47:39 2011
From: darian at criticode.com (Darian Patrick)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 16:47:39 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] Can we go with Sept. 12 for the next meeting?
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Is Sept. 12th good since the 5th is a holiday?

Also, I'm going to go ahead and request that the room in Levine be reserved for another six months of first Mondays.

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From mjg at phoenixtrap.com  Tue Aug 16 18:56:21 2011
From: mjg at phoenixtrap.com (Mark Gardner)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:56:21 -0400
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] Can we go with Sept. 12 for the next meeting?
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On Aug 16, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Darian Patrick <darian at criticode.com> wrote:

> Is Sept. 12th good since the 5th is a holiday?

OK by me.


From waltman at pobox.com  Tue Aug 16 19:05:38 2011
From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:05:38 -0400
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] Can we go with Sept. 12 for the next meeting?
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 09:56:21PM -0400, Mark Gardner wrote:
> On Aug 16, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Darian Patrick <darian at criticode.com> wrote:
> 
> > Is Sept. 12th good since the 5th is a holiday?
> 
> OK by me.

And me.
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From c.nehren/phl at shadowcat.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 16:41:43 2011
From: c.nehren/phl at shadowcat.co.uk (Chris Nehren)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:41:43 -0400
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] Can we go with Sept. 12 for the next meeting?
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On Aug 16, 2011, at 17:47, Darian Patrick wrote:

> Is Sept. 12th good since the 5th is a holiday?
> 
> Also, I'm going to go ahead and request that the room in Levine be reserved for another six months of first Mondays.
> 

Works for me. Anyone interested in speaking this time round?
-- 
Thanks and best regards,
Chris Nehren


From waltman at pobox.com  Tue Aug 16 19:18:46 2011
From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:18:46 -0400
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] Can we go with Sept. 12 for the next meeting?
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	<BF4724EA-45F8-4D54-A768-F6A8845C9563@shadowcat.co.uk>
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 07:41:43PM -0400, Chris Nehren wrote:
> On Aug 16, 2011, at 17:47, Darian Patrick wrote:
> 
> > Is Sept. 12th good since the 5th is a holiday?
> > 
> > Also, I'm going to go ahead and request that the room in Levine be reserved for another six months of first Mondays.
> > 
> 
> Works for me. Anyone interested in speaking this time round?

Yeah, I'm hoping to do a run-through of the pack/unpack talk I'll be
doing a few weeks later at PPW.
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From darian at criticode.com  Tue Aug 16 19:23:13 2011
From: darian at criticode.com (Darian Anthony Patrick)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:23:13 -0400
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] Can we go with Sept. 12 for the next meeting?
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On 08/16/2011 10:18 PM, Walt Mankowski wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 07:41:43PM -0400, Chris Nehren wrote:
>> On Aug 16, 2011, at 17:47, Darian Patrick wrote:
>>
>>> Is Sept. 12th good since the 5th is a holiday?
>>>
>>> Also, I'm going to go ahead and request that the room in Levine be reserved for another six months of first Mondays.
>>>
>>
>> Works for me. Anyone interested in speaking this time round?
> 
> Yeah, I'm hoping to do a run-through of the pack/unpack talk I'll be
> doing a few weeks later at PPW.

Super. How long is that talk Walt?

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From waltman at pobox.com  Tue Aug 16 19:34:59 2011
From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:34:59 -0400
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] Can we go with Sept. 12 for the next meeting?
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:23:13PM -0400, Darian Anthony Patrick wrote:
> On 08/16/2011 10:18 PM, Walt Mankowski wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 07:41:43PM -0400, Chris Nehren wrote:
> >> On Aug 16, 2011, at 17:47, Darian Patrick wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is Sept. 12th good since the 5th is a holiday?
> >>>
> >>> Also, I'm going to go ahead and request that the room in Levine be reserved for another six months of first Mondays.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Works for me. Anyone interested in speaking this time round?
> > 
> > Yeah, I'm hoping to do a run-through of the pack/unpack talk I'll be
> > doing a few weeks later at PPW.
> 
> Super. How long is that talk Walt?

It's supposed to be 50 minutes.
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From c.nehren/phl at shadowcat.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 20:18:42 2011
From: c.nehren/phl at shadowcat.co.uk (Chris Nehren)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 23:18:42 -0400
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] Can we go with Sept. 12 for the next meeting?
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 22:18:46 -0400 , Walt Mankowski wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 07:41:43PM -0400, Chris Nehren wrote:
> > On Aug 16, 2011, at 17:47, Darian Patrick wrote:
> > 
> > > Is Sept. 12th good since the 5th is a holiday?
> > > 
> > > Also, I'm going to go ahead and request that the room in Levine be
> > > reserved for another six months of first Mondays.
> > > 
> > 
> > Works for me. Anyone interested in speaking this time round?
> 
> Yeah, I'm hoping to do a run-through of the pack/unpack talk I'll be
> doing a few weeks later at PPW.

That sounds good. I'm a fan of vetting talks at PM groups before giving
them to larger audiences. Can we convince anyone else to talk? Mark, I
see you've uploaded a few CPAN modules here and there; care to tell us
about them? It doesn't have to be anything spectacular, really: just
enough to generate interest in your projects.

-- 
Thanks and best regards,
Chris Nehren

From mjg at phoenixtrap.com  Wed Aug 17 04:45:27 2011
From: mjg at phoenixtrap.com (Mark Gardner)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:45:27 -0400
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] Can we go with Sept. 12 for the next meeting?
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On Aug 16, 2011, at 11:18 PM, Chris Nehren <c.nehren/phl at shadowcat.co.uk> wrote:

> Mark, I
> see you've uploaded a few CPAN modules here and there; care to tell us
> about them? It doesn't have to be anything spectacular, really: just
> enough to generate interest in your projects.

OK. How much time should I shoot for?

From c.nehren/phl at shadowcat.co.uk  Thu Aug 18 23:43:07 2011
From: c.nehren/phl at shadowcat.co.uk (Chris Nehren)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 02:43:07 -0400
Subject: [Philadelphia-pm] Can we go with Sept. 12 for the next meeting?
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On Aug 17, 2011, at 07:45, Mark Gardner wrote:

> On Aug 16, 2011, at 11:18 PM, Chris Nehren <c.nehren/phl at shadowcat.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Mark, I
>> see you've uploaded a few CPAN modules here and there; care to tell us
>> about them? It doesn't have to be anything spectacular, really: just
>> enough to generate interest in your projects.
> 
> OK. How much time should I shoot for?


More than 20 minutes but less than an hour.

-- 
Thanks and best regards,
Chris Nehren