From casey at geeknest.com Thu Jan 6 11:30:36 2005 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Thu Jan 6 11:24:47 2005 Subject: [pgh-pm] Happy New Year Message-ID: <20050106173036.GS62364@geeknest.com> Things have probably settled down for most of us by now, so lets talk about the January meeting. It will be held on January 12th, which is next Wednesday. Robert Blackwell is leading the way to establishing a PostgreSQL Users Group in Pittsburgh, which I think is a great idea. He's asked for the January meeting to be a joint meeting between interested PostgreSQL Users (probably a large handful of us anyway) and the Perl Mongers. That's another great idea, so that's what we're going to do. This will be a technical and social meeting. We'll have one talk, which will be me talking about PostgreSQL Replication using Slony-I. I think Slony-I is a pretty cool project and I'll show you how to get it up and running easily, and explain much of the jargon that made the process difficult for me initially. Socially, we'll have to find a place to go. Lately this has been somewhat difficult so I propose a pre-plan. Lets go up to 20th and eat South Side Steaks. At least if we walk this way and we don't like the idea, something else will come up. :-) Casey West -- Technology makes it possible for people to gain control over everything, except over technology. -- John Tudor From robertblackwell at yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 12:35:53 2005 From: robertblackwell at yahoo.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Thu Jan 6 12:35:56 2005 Subject: [pgh-pm] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <20050106173036.GS62364@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <20050106183554.85360.qmail@web54203.mail.yahoo.com> --- Casey West wrote: > Things have probably settled down for most of us by now, so lets talk > about the January meeting. It will be held on January 12th, which is > next Wednesday. > > Robert Blackwell is leading the way to establishing a PostgreSQL Users > Group in Pittsburgh, which I think is a great idea. He's asked for the > January meeting to be a joint meeting between interested PostgreSQL > Users (probably a large handful of us anyway) and the Perl > Mongers. That's another great idea, so that's what we're going to do. Sorry things are still settling down for me in the new year. The PostgreSQL/Perl Monger meeting will be the Feb meeting. Barrie said that we can use his office in Oakland for the meeting. I am still working on getting it all posted on www.pghtech.com. Sorry for the confusion. > This will be a technical and social meeting. We'll have one talk, > which will be me talking about PostgreSQL Replication using Slony-I. I > think Slony-I is a pretty cool project and I'll show you how to get it > up and running easily, and explain much of the jargon that made the > process difficult for me initially. > > Socially, we'll have to find a place to go. Lately this has been > somewhat difficult so I propose a pre-plan. Lets go up to 20th and > eat South Side Steaks. At least if we walk this way and we don't like > the idea, something else will come up. :-) > > Casey West > > -- > Technology makes it possible for people to gain control over > everything, except over technology. > -- John Tudor > > _______________________________________________ > pgh-pm mailing list > pgh-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm > ===== Robert Blackwell robert@robertblackwell.com AIM: robertdblackwell Yahoo!: robertblackwell Jabber: robertblackwell@jabber.com http://www.robertblackwell.com From robertblackwell at yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 14:29:18 2005 From: robertblackwell at yahoo.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Thu Jan 6 14:29:20 2005 Subject: [pgh-pm] Planning Open Source conferance for Governments and Non-Profits Message-ID: <20050106202918.18869.qmail@web54203.mail.yahoo.com> Perl Mongers, I have been working with the non profit groups ( I am President of one) and governments a lot lately. Sadly I am not finding much open source. Even worse people do not know what it is or how much it could help. So I am looking for people to help put on a YAPC style conference focused on OSS and Non-Profit/Governments. If anyone has any interest please let me know. I few ideas: Front Office: Using the voter data with R to analyze voter patterns. Writing reports with http://datavision.sourceforge.net/ Make your data come to life! with http://www.opendx.org/. When is the bus coming? Back office: How to set up Asterisk PBX and why would I want to. Using Apache to host your community website. Storing your data in an open source database. CMS options. ===== Robert Blackwell robert@robertblackwell.com AIM: robertdblackwell Yahoo!: robertblackwell Jabber: robertblackwell@jabber.com http://www.robertblackwell.com From barries at slaysys.com Thu Jan 6 16:39:30 2005 From: barries at slaysys.com (Barrie Slaymaker) Date: Thu Jan 6 15:44:13 2005 Subject: [pgh-pm] Planning Open Source conferance for Governments and Non-Profits In-Reply-To: <20050106202918.18869.qmail@web54203.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050106202918.18869.qmail@web54203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050106223757.GC4691@slaysys.com> FANTASTIC IDEA! Ahem. I have contacts at several local NPOs (the Pgh. Symphony, the Pittsburgh Public Theater, the Carriage House Children's Center, St. Edmund's Academy, the Ellis school, the Girl Scouts), etc, so I might be able to drum up some interest. I'll also try to contribute talks, though I have no success stories to tell, as you'll see in a moment. However, I can talk about OSS in general and what you can do with it; especially web server or database stuff (the hard core programming we do would not be of too much interest, I suspect ;). The Symphony used to be (and likely still is) completely uninterested because they get big ticket items at a significant discount or as non-cash donations and because the like easy-to-manage systems that are compatible with eachother (in UI and at a technical level) and with other organizations they exchange information with. So OSS would only thrive at such an organization if they have a technically inclined OSS proselytizer. That's true almost across the board with the schools and arts organizations I list above, though Macs do occur in the schools more frequently than in the arts orgs. MS Office, MS Exchange, $FundraisingPackage and Lotus Notes tend to be major gravity wells for the arts organizations, and there are few if any OSS gravity wells. - Barrie On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 12:29:18PM -0800, Robert Blackwell wrote: > Perl Mongers, > > I have been working with the non profit groups ( I am President of one) and governments a lot > lately. Sadly I am not finding much open source. Even worse people do not know what it is or how > much it could help. > > So I am looking for people to help put on a YAPC style conference focused on OSS and > Non-Profit/Governments. If anyone has any interest please let me know. > > I few ideas: > > Front Office: > > Using the voter data with R to analyze voter patterns. > Writing reports with http://datavision.sourceforge.net/ > Make your data come to life! with http://www.opendx.org/. > When is the bus coming? > > Back office: > > How to set up Asterisk PBX and why would I want to. > Using Apache to host your community website. > Storing your data in an open source database. > CMS options. > > ===== > Robert Blackwell > robert@robertblackwell.com > AIM: robertdblackwell > Yahoo!: robertblackwell > Jabber: robertblackwell@jabber.com > http://www.robertblackwell.com > _______________________________________________ > pgh-pm mailing list > pgh-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm From sean at redhandsoftware.com Thu Jan 6 16:18:29 2005 From: sean at redhandsoftware.com (Sean McCune) Date: Thu Jan 6 16:18:38 2005 Subject: [pgh-pm] Planning Open Source conferance for Governments and Non-Profits In-Reply-To: <20050106202918.18869.qmail@web54203.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050106202918.18869.qmail@web54203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41DDB935.7090701@redhandsoftware.com> I would be interested in helping out with that. In my experience, the reliability/security and sometimes philosophical angle gets more traction than the cost angle with charities and non-profits. They are usually able to get deep discounts on MS Office, operating systems, and back office apps, making the cost issue nearly moot for them. -- Sean McCune sean@redhandsoftware.com Red Hand Software, Inc. Robert Blackwell wrote: > Perl Mongers, > > I have been working with the non profit groups ( I am President of one) and governments a lot > lately. Sadly I am not finding much open source. Even worse people do not know what it is or how > much it could help. > > So I am looking for people to help put on a YAPC style conference focused on OSS and > Non-Profit/Governments. If anyone has any interest please let me know. > > I few ideas: > > Front Office: > > Using the voter data with R to analyze voter patterns. > Writing reports with http://datavision.sourceforge.net/ > Make your data come to life! with http://www.opendx.org/. > When is the bus coming? > > Back office: > > How to set up Asterisk PBX and why would I want to. > Using Apache to host your community website. > Storing your data in an open source database. > CMS options. > > ===== > Robert Blackwell > robert@robertblackwell.com > AIM: robertdblackwell > Yahoo!: robertblackwell > Jabber: robertblackwell@jabber.com > http://www.robertblackwell.com > _______________________________________________ > pgh-pm mailing list > pgh-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm From robertblackwell at yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 21:27:17 2005 From: robertblackwell at yahoo.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Thu Jan 6 21:27:19 2005 Subject: [pgh-pm] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <20050106173036.GS62364@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <20050107032717.80031.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> Given the PostgreSQL meeting confusion. If people are interested I will give a talk on the History Phone project I am working on. History Phone is a project I am working on with an oral history historian to deliver house histories to people over the phone using VoiceXML. Robert --- Casey West wrote: > Things have probably settled down for most of us by now, so lets talk > about the January meeting. It will be held on January 12th, which is > next Wednesday. > > Robert Blackwell is leading the way to establishing a PostgreSQL Users > Group in Pittsburgh, which I think is a great idea. He's asked for the > January meeting to be a joint meeting between interested PostgreSQL > Users (probably a large handful of us anyway) and the Perl > Mongers. That's another great idea, so that's what we're going to do. > > This will be a technical and social meeting. We'll have one talk, > which will be me talking about PostgreSQL Replication using Slony-I. I > think Slony-I is a pretty cool project and I'll show you how to get it > up and running easily, and explain much of the jargon that made the > process difficult for me initially. > > Socially, we'll have to find a place to go. Lately this has been > somewhat difficult so I propose a pre-plan. Lets go up to 20th and > eat South Side Steaks. At least if we walk this way and we don't like > the idea, something else will come up. :-) > > Casey West > > -- > Technology makes it possible for people to gain control over > everything, except over technology. > -- John Tudor > > _______________________________________________ > pgh-pm mailing list > pgh-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm > ===== Robert Blackwell robert@robertblackwell.com AIM: robertdblackwell Yahoo!: robertblackwell Jabber: robertblackwell@jabber.com http://www.robertblackwell.com From casey at geeknest.com Tue Jan 11 04:46:55 2005 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Tue Jan 11 04:41:33 2005 Subject: [pgh-pm] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <20050107032717.80031.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050106173036.GS62364@geeknest.com> <20050107032717.80031.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050111124655.GB14889@geeknest.com> It was Thursday, January 06, 2005 when Robert Blackwell took the soap box, saying: : Given the PostgreSQL meeting confusion. If people are interested I : will give a talk on the History Phone project I am working on. History : Phone is a project I am working on with an oral history historian to : deliver house histories to people over the phone using VoiceXML. Yes, I'd like that very much. This time I'm going to email Kevin about having the meeting at Cepstral a few hours early. :-) So we'll have our meeting tomorrow with a talk by Robert Blackwell. Thanks! Casey West -- Shooting yourself in the foot with Mach The bullets work pretty well, but they don't make guns for it any more. From casey at geeknest.com Wed Jan 12 12:19:57 2005 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Wed Jan 12 12:14:34 2005 Subject: [pgh-pm] Meeting Tonight Confirmed Message-ID: <20050112201957.GH23258@geeknest.com> http://pgh.pm.org/cgi-bin/wiki Meeting for tonight is confirmed. We'll meet at Cepstral, details on the wiki for where Cepstral is. Robert will speak on VoiceXML stuff. Casey West -- Live TV died in the late 1950s, electronic bulletin boards came along in the mid-1980s, meaning there was about a 25-year gap when it was difficult to put your foot in your mouth and have people all across the country know about it. -- Mark Leeper From glim at mycybernet.net Mon Jan 24 19:49:00 2005 From: glim at mycybernet.net (glim@mycybernet.net) Date: Mon Jan 24 19:48:01 2005 Subject: [pgh-pm] Yet Another Perl Conference North America 2005 announces call-for-papers Message-ID: YAPC::NA 2005 (Yet Another Perl Conference, North America) has just released its call-for-papers; potential and aspiring speakers can submit a presentation proposal via: http://yapc.org/America/cfp-2005.shtml The dates of the conference are Monday - Wednesday 27-29 June 2005. The location will be in downtown Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Note that a different date block was previously announced, but has been moved to accomodate venue availability.) The close of the call-for-papers is April 18, 2005 at 11:59 pm. If you have any questions regarding the call-for-papers or speaking at YAPC::NA 2005 please email na-author@yapc.org We would love to hear from potential sponsors. Please contact the organizers at na-sponsor@yapc.org to learn about the benefits of sponsorship. Other information regarding the conference (e.g. venue, registration specifics) will be announced soon. We look forward to your submissions and a great conference! From casey at geeknest.com Fri Jan 28 09:55:46 2005 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Sun Jan 30 18:44:09 2005 Subject: [pgh-pm] [janet@apress.com: Thanks for registering with Apress!] Message-ID: <20050128175546.GA51930@geeknest.com> This could come in handy. ----- Forwarded message from janet@apress.com ----- Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:00:56 -0600 Message-Id: <200501281700.j0SH0u2g002398@pigpen.internal.apress.com> From: janet@apress.com To: casey@geeknest.com Subject: Thanks for registering with Apress! Dear Casey West, Thank you for registering Pittsburgh Perl Mongers with Apress! In this message you will find: 1. Membership benefits 2. Using your UG discount 3. Earn books for your group 4. The Apress Reviewer Program ***** 1. Let's review your membership benefits: > 25% off regular Apress and friends of ED titles (info below). > Free promotional items like glow-in-the-dark Apress t-shirts, bookmarks, foED t-shirts and highlighters your user group can use for raffles and giveaways. > Free books in exchange for reviews > Customized title lists: you tell us what sort of books you are looking for, and we'll compose a title list for you. > If our authors are in your region, we'll be happy to arrange speaking engagements. > Advanced PDF's or review copies of books before they are publicly released. ***** 2. To obtain the User Group discount: A.) Place your order with 1-800-SPRINGER or sales@apress.com and make sure to mention the promotion code APRESSUG. B.) When placing the order, be sure to mention the name of the user group C.) Discount valid only in the U.S. and Canada. User Groups outside the U.S., please contact Stephanie Parker at Stephanie@svl.co.uk or +44 (0) 1483 414113 ***** 3. We are happy to send Apress books for your raffles and giveaways! In exchange, we simply ask that the book winner publish a review on your user group website, a blog, or in a print publication. ***** 4. Members are also eligible to join our Reviewer Program. To earn free books, you write a review of any Apress or friends of ED title, and get it published in a publication, or heavily trafficked blog or website (such as Slashdot). Then let me know where it's posted, and I'll send three free books! You can earn up to 12 per year! If you don't know where to post your review, ask me for suggestions. ***** Remember to get in touch the next time your user group has a big event, and I'll see what I can do to help. I look forward to keeping in touch! Best, Janet Crosbie User Group Liaison Apress janet@apress.com http://www.apress.com/ ----- End forwarded message ----- Casey West -- Shooting yourself in the foot with Oracle You decide to shoot yuourself in the foot and go out to buy a gun - except the gun won't work without "deploying" a shoulder holster solution, and relational titanium alloy bullets, and body armour infrastructure, and a laser sight assistant, and a retractable arm stock application, and an enterprise team of ballistics experts and a chiropodist.