Catalyst 5.0 has been released today! I've written a sample application to show some of the cool stuff you can do. You can grab it here, hopefully we'll post it on the Catalyst website sometime soon. http://www.hybridized.org/catalyst/Catalyst-ServerDB-1.0.tar.gz -- Andy Grundman www.mixdepot.net / www.hybridized.org andy at hybridized.org