From casey at geeknest.com Wed Aug 4 00:04:31 2004 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:00:42 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] That time again. Message-ID: <20040804050431.GB63014@geeknest.com> It's nearly time for another Pittsburgh Perl Mongers meeting! [SFX: triumphant trumpets] I was thinking we could do a workshop style meeting. Workshops are a place to discuss works in progress. Get ideas out there, solicit solutions to problems, invite people to hack on code with you, and so on. Completely free form. Each topic will go on as long as there's interest. If you have something to talk about then we can create an ad-hoc agenda at the beginning of the meeting to make sure we get them all. We'll stop when people get bored and, at some point, probably continue at a place having food and drink. What do you think? Casey West -- If unix is the face of the future I wanna go back to quill pens. -- Joseph Snipp From chris at cwinters.com Sun Aug 8 21:32:48 2004 From: chris at cwinters.com (Chris Winters) Date: Sun Aug 8 21:32:48 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] That time again. In-Reply-To: <20040804050431.GB63014@geeknest.com> References: <20040804050431.GB63014@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <673776E4-E9AC-11D8-A409-000A95DBDB3A@cwinters.com> On Aug 4, 2004, at 1:04 AM, Casey West wrote: > I was thinking we could do a workshop style meeting. Workshops are a > place to discuss works in progress. Get ideas out there, solicit > solutions to problems, invite people to hack on code with you, and so > on. Completely free form. Each topic will go on as long as there's > interest. If you have something to talk about then we can create an > ad-hoc agenda at the beginning of the meeting to make sure we get them > all. We'll stop when people get bored and, at some point, probably > continue at a place having food and drink. > > What do you think? I think it's a cool idea. IME people can be a bit... bashful about bringing their code and/or ideas in for review and bantering. So maybe we can talk about some ideas beforehand so there's not that awkward pause at the beginning of the meeting when someone says, "So what are we going to talk about?" One idea: at the last meeting Dan brought up a system he'd like to use at pair for notifying techs of potential problems in network services and allowing them to fix them and let the system know -- QUICKLY! -- that the problem had been solved. Obviously we wouldn't be able to write the whole thing in an hour or two, but maybe we could hash out some architecture/platform/larger ideas and dig around CPAN for potential pieces of an implementation. Of course I'm very open to other ideas as well. Chris -- Chris Winters Creating enterprise-capable snack systems since 1988 From casey at geeknest.com Mon Aug 9 14:25:24 2004 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Mon Aug 9 14:21:21 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] That time again. In-Reply-To: <673776E4-E9AC-11D8-A409-000A95DBDB3A@cwinters.com> References: <20040804050431.GB63014@geeknest.com> <673776E4-E9AC-11D8-A409-000A95DBDB3A@cwinters.com> Message-ID: <20040809192524.GC3705@geeknest.com> It was Sunday, August 08, 2004 when Chris Winters took the soap box, saying: : On Aug 4, 2004, at 1:04 AM, Casey West wrote: : >What do you think? : : I think it's a cool idea. IME people can be a bit... bashful about : bringing their code and/or ideas in for review and bantering. So maybe : we can talk about some ideas beforehand so there's not that awkward : pause at the beginning of the meeting when someone says, "So what are : we going to talk about?" I want to talk about searching email. What are your thoughts on inverted indexes, semantic search, linear searching, serializing indexes, the list goes on... :-) : One idea: at the last meeting Dan brought up a system he'd like to use : at pair for notifying techs of potential problems in network services : and allowing them to fix them and let the system know -- QUICKLY! -- : that the problem had been solved. Obviously we wouldn't be able to : write the whole thing in an hour or two, but maybe we could hash out : some architecture/platform/larger ideas and dig around CPAN for : potential pieces of an implementation. If Dan is up for that, sure! : Of course I'm very open to other ideas as well. Of course. Casey West -- Shooting yourself in the foot with FidoNet You put your foot in your mouth, then echo it internationally. From casey at geeknest.com Wed Aug 11 12:37:15 2004 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Wed Aug 11 12:33:08 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Meeting Today Message-ID: <20040811173715.GL3705@geeknest.com> I forgot to ask Kevin about meeting at Cepstral this month. I've not received word so I think we should find another way. I propose we meet outside Cepstral initially, at 19:00 and find a place to eat from there. I was thinking that this month we could find a place with wireless and work together to jump start a new pgh.pm.org site based on a wiki. Something with revision control. Then we can work together on meeting planning. Casey West -- Good Idea: Tossing a penny into a fountain to make a wish. Bad Idea: Tossing your cousin Penny into a fountain to make a wish. From casey at geeknest.com Wed Aug 11 15:40:12 2004 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Wed Aug 11 15:36:04 2004 Subject: [lenzo@cepstral.com: Re: [pgh-pm] Meeting Today] Message-ID: <20040811204012.GC41256@geeknest.com> Let's go to bhe beehive! ----- Forwarded message from Kevin Lenzo ----- From: Kevin Lenzo Subject: Re: [pgh-pm] Meeting Today Casey, I got a last minute call to go to Dallas tomorrow morning. I recommend the Beehive -- they have opened a third room and there's free wireless. ----- End forwarded message ----- Casey West -- "The concept is interesting and well-formed, but in order to earn better than a 'C,' the idea must be feasible." -- A Yale University management professor in response to Fred Smith's paper proposing reliable overnight delivery service. (Smith went on to found Federal Express Corp.) From chris at cwinters.com Wed Aug 11 15:48:06 2004 From: chris at cwinters.com (Chris Winters) Date: Wed Aug 11 15:48:11 2004 Subject: [lenzo@cepstral.com: Re: [pgh-pm] Meeting Today] In-Reply-To: <20040811204012.GC41256@geeknest.com> References: <20040811204012.GC41256@geeknest.com> Message-ID: On Aug 11, 2004, at 4:40 PM, Casey West wrote: > Let's go to bhe beehive! I'm down with that. Should we meet there or still in front of cepstral? Chris -- Chris Winters Creating enterprise-capable snack systems since 1988 From casey at geeknest.com Wed Aug 11 15:53:26 2004 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Wed Aug 11 15:49:18 2004 Subject: [lenzo@cepstral.com: Re: [pgh-pm] Meeting Today] In-Reply-To: References: <20040811204012.GC41256@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <20040811205326.GD41256@geeknest.com> It was Wednesday, August 11, 2004 when Chris Winters took the soap box, saying: : On Aug 11, 2004, at 4:40 PM, Casey West wrote: : >Let's go to bhe beehive! : : I'm down with that. Should we meet there or still in front of cepstral? Cepstral, just in case someone coming hasn't read this, or won't by then. We can leave Cepstral at ~7:15. The walk should be nice. Casey West -- Shooting yourself in the foot with Oracle You decide to shoot yuourself in the foot and go out to buy a gun - except the gun won't work without "deploying" a shoulder holster solution, and relational titanium alloy bullets, and body armour infrastructure, and a laser sight assistant, and a retractable arm stock application, and an enterprise team of ballistics experts and a chiropodist. From broadway at city-net.com Wed Aug 11 15:49:58 2004 From: broadway at city-net.com (Peter Williams) Date: Wed Aug 11 15:51:52 2004 Subject: [lenzo@cepstral.com: Re: [pgh-pm] Meeting Today] In-Reply-To: <20040811204012.GC41256@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <411A4E36.15247.6D9F6B6@localhost> Where is the Beehive? I've never been there (nor to a PM meeting, hoping to make tonight my first). Any bus directions from Sq.Hill, better than the 54C? Peter And Casey West didst rise up from the depths and spake thus: > Let's go to bhe beehive! From casey at geeknest.com Wed Aug 11 16:08:22 2004 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Wed Aug 11 16:04:13 2004 Subject: [lenzo@cepstral.com: Re: [pgh-pm] Meeting Today] In-Reply-To: <411A4E36.15247.6D9F6B6@localhost> References: <20040811204012.GC41256@geeknest.com> <411A4E36.15247.6D9F6B6@localhost> Message-ID: <20040811210822.GE41256@geeknest.com> It was Wednesday, August 11, 2004 when Peter Williams took the soap box, saying: : Where is the Beehive? I've never been there (nor to a PM meeting, : hoping to make tonight my first). Any bus directions from Sq.Hill, : better than the 54C? Beehive is 13th and East Carson. At least a few of us will be walking form 18th to 13th. I wish I knew something about the bus system. You're welcome to find us at either place. Casey West -- When a cat is dropped, it always lands on its feet; when toast is dropped, it always lands with the buttered side facing down. I propose to strap buttered toast to the back of a cat; the two will hover, spinning inches above the ground. With a giant buttered-cat array, we could power entire metropolitan areas. From brig at bidlum.net Wed Aug 11 16:54:17 2004 From: brig at bidlum.net (Brian Gollum) Date: Wed Aug 11 16:50:09 2004 Subject: [lenzo@cepstral.com: Re: [pgh-pm] Meeting Today] In-Reply-To: <411A4E36.15247.6D9F6B6@localhost> References: <20040811204012.GC41256@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20040811174120.0bd72c60@localhost> At 04:49 PM 8/11/04 -0400, Peter Williams wrote: >Where is the Beehive? I've never been there (nor to a PM meeting, >hoping to make tonight my first). Any bus directions from Sq.Hill, >better than the 54C? 54C is probably the best bet. You'll want to get off at the last stop on Carson (18th Street?), then continue walking down Carson in the same direction (west). The Beehive is on the right a few blocks down from there. Where in sq.hill are you? ...b. From casey at geeknest.com Mon Aug 16 17:16:27 2004 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Mon Aug 16 17:12:08 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Trying to find Adam Foxson Message-ID: <20040816221627.GC72791@geeknest.com> Adam Foxson (Fox) is a Pittsburgh Perl Monger and many of you may know him, or have met him. I'm trying to locate him. His blog is down, email at pobox.com is bouncing, and hasn't been on IRC in 120 days. If you have any clues on his existence I'd be happy to hear about them. Casey West -- Good Idea: Playing the piccolo in a marching band. Bad Idea: Playing the piano in a marching band. From casey at geeknest.com Mon Aug 16 22:16:05 2004 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Mon Aug 16 22:11:44 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Trying to find Adam Foxson In-Reply-To: <20040816221627.GC72791@geeknest.com> References: <20040816221627.GC72791@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <20040817031605.GE72791@geeknest.com> It was Monday, August 16, 2004 when Casey West took the soap box, saying: : Adam Foxson (Fox) is a Pittsburgh Perl Monger and many of you may know : him, or have met him. I'm trying to locate him. His blog is down, email : at pobox.com is bouncing, and hasn't been on IRC in 120 days. If you : have any clues on his existence I'd be happy to hear about them. I found him. Work just has him hammered so he hasn't been active. No biggie. Casey West -- Shooting yourself in the foot with Ada After correctly packaging your foot, you attempt to concurrently load the gun, pull the trigger, scream and shoot yourself in the foot. When you try, however, you discover that your foot is of the wrong type. From casey at geeknest.com Thu Aug 26 06:30:20 2004 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Thu Aug 26 06:27:35 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Apple Store Opening! Message-ID: <20040826113020.GL1124@geeknest.com> For all of us who care, which is probably most of us, lets make a date to meet for the opening! http://www.apple.com/retail/shadyside/ I'm so excited. :-) Casey West -- Shooting yourself in the foot with C You shoot yourself in the foot. From chris at cwinters.com Thu Aug 26 06:43:31 2004 From: chris at cwinters.com (Chris Winters) Date: Thu Aug 26 06:43:36 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Apple Store Opening! In-Reply-To: <20040826113020.GL1124@geeknest.com> References: <20040826113020.GL1124@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <276F2F12-F755-11D8-8DA0-000A95DBDB3A@cwinters.com> On Aug 26, 2004, at 7:30 AM, Casey West wrote: > For all of us who care, which is probably most of us, lets make a date > to meet for the opening! > > http://www.apple.com/retail/shadyside/ I am so there, and hopefully Pittsburgh is small enough that it won't be a mob. Chris -- Chris Winters Creating enterprise-capable snack systems since 1988 From shawn at djernes.org Fri Aug 27 11:32:56 2004 From: shawn at djernes.org (Shawn L. Djernes) Date: Fri Aug 27 11:33:09 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] New Job In Nebraska Message-ID: <200408271633.i7RGX6cc027085@www.pm.org> Hello All, This is just a quick note to let you all know that I have just got a new Job working for the Nebraska Commission for the Blind. I will be working out of the Omaha office as a Program Specialist. I will be matching Jobs and Technology to help blind and visually impaired people find jobs or keep them. I have been working with moving companies and trying to find a plain flight into Lincoln the last few days. On Tuesday I de-registered from college. Yesterday and today I spent on the phone making arrangements for the move. Here is the tentative schedule for the move: Friday Sept 3 stuff is picked up from my place Monday Sept 6 I fly to Nebraska. Shawn From wright at smx.pair.com Thu Aug 26 16:16:37 2004 From: wright at smx.pair.com (Dan Wright) Date: Fri Aug 27 11:54:29 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] pair Networks, Inc: Job opening for Perl programmer. Message-ID: pair Networks, Inc. is now accepting resumes for an additional software developer position that is being created at pair. For information about pair, or to apply, go to: http://jobs.pair.com Regards, -Dan Daniel J. Wright wright@pair.com Lead Software Developer, pairNIC https://www.pairnic.com pair Networks, Inc. http://www.pair.com From casey at geeknest.com Mon Aug 30 18:03:53 2004 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Mon Aug 30 18:01:11 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Apple Store Opening! In-Reply-To: <276F2F12-F755-11D8-8DA0-000A95DBDB3A@cwinters.com> References: <20040826113020.GL1124@geeknest.com> <276F2F12-F755-11D8-8DA0-000A95DBDB3A@cwinters.com> Message-ID: <20040830230353.GA33928@geeknest.com> It was Thursday, August 26, 2004 when Chris Winters took the soap box, saying: : On Aug 26, 2004, at 7:30 AM, Casey West wrote: : >For all of us who care, which is probably most of us, lets make a date : >to meet for the opening! : > : > http://www.apple.com/retail/shadyside/ : : I am so there, and hopefully Pittsburgh is small enough that it won't : be a mob. What time works for you? I'm thinking ~11/12. We could make a lunch meetup out of it if others are interested. Paging Adam Foxson! :-) Casey West -- Shooting yourself in the foot with APL You hear a gunshot and there's a hole in your foot, but you don't remember enough linear algebra to understand what happened. From chris at cwinters.com Mon Aug 30 20:26:23 2004 From: chris at cwinters.com (Chris Winters) Date: Mon Aug 30 20:26:28 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Apple Store Opening! In-Reply-To: <20040830230353.GA33928@geeknest.com> References: <20040826113020.GL1124@geeknest.com> <276F2F12-F755-11D8-8DA0-000A95DBDB3A@cwinters.com> <20040830230353.GA33928@geeknest.com> Message-ID: On Aug 30, 2004, at 7:03 PM, Casey West wrote: > What time works for you? I'm thinking ~11/12. We could make a lunch > meetup out of it if others are interested. Sounds good to me. I haven't been to Shadyside in quite some time and haven't eaten anything down there in an even longer time, so I'm not sure what food places are around. But there are plenty so it shouldn't be too hard. How many people go to these sorts of things? Chris -- Chris Winters Creating enterprise-capable snack systems since 1988 From tom at moertel.com Tue Aug 31 09:26:53 2004 From: tom at moertel.com (Tom Moertel) Date: Tue Aug 31 09:26:59 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Apple Store Opening! In-Reply-To: References: <20040826113020.GL1124@geeknest.com> <276F2F12-F755-11D8-8DA0-000A95DBDB3A@cwinters.com> <20040830230353.GA33928@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <41348AAD.1010401@moertel.com> Chris Winters wrote: > On Aug 30, 2004, at 7:03 PM, Casey West wrote: > >> What time works for you? I'm thinking ~11/12. We could make a lunch >> meetup out of it if others are interested. I'm interested, too. That time seems to work. > But there are plenty [of food places] so it shouldn't > be too hard. And there is a Coffee Tree Roasters, if at some time we should need delightful beverages. Mmmm... Indian Monsooned Malabar. > How many people go to these sorts of things? Apple is giving out t-shirts to the first 1,000 people to show up. That says something. Cheers, Tom From chris at cwinters.com Tue Aug 31 17:00:55 2004 From: chris at cwinters.com (Chris Winters) Date: Tue Aug 31 17:02:18 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Apple Store Opening! In-Reply-To: <41348AAD.1010401@moertel.com> References: <20040826113020.GL1124@geeknest.com> <276F2F12-F755-11D8-8DA0-000A95DBDB3A@cwinters.com> <20040830230353.GA33928@geeknest.com> <41348AAD.1010401@moertel.com> Message-ID: <3BC21A75-FB99-11D8-8D10-000A95DBDB3A@cwinters.com> On Aug 31, 2004, at 10:26 AM, Tom Moertel wrote: > I'm interested, too. That time seems to work. Okay, why don't we say 11:00 at the Apple Store? > And there is a Coffee Tree Roasters, if at some time we should need > delightful beverages. Mmmm... Indian Monsooned Malabar. Sounds excellent! Chris -- Chris Winters Creating enterprise-capable snack systems since 1988 From casey at geeknest.com Tue Aug 31 17:52:01 2004 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Tue Aug 31 17:49:17 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Apple Store Opening! In-Reply-To: <3BC21A75-FB99-11D8-8D10-000A95DBDB3A@cwinters.com> References: <20040826113020.GL1124@geeknest.com> <276F2F12-F755-11D8-8DA0-000A95DBDB3A@cwinters.com> <20040830230353.GA33928@geeknest.com> <41348AAD.1010401@moertel.com> <3BC21A75-FB99-11D8-8D10-000A95DBDB3A@cwinters.com> Message-ID: <20040831225200.GB45695@geeknest.com> It was Tuesday, August 31, 2004 when Chris Winters took the soap box, saying: : On Aug 31, 2004, at 10:26 AM, Tom Moertel wrote: : >I'm interested, too. That time seems to work. : : Okay, why don't we say 11:00 at the Apple Store? I'm down. : >And there is a Coffee Tree Roasters, if at some time we should need : >delightful beverages. Mmmm... Indian Monsooned Malabar. : : Sounds excellent! x2! Casey West -- "Bite the wax tadpole." --Coca-Cola as originally translated into Chinese From robertblackwell at yahoo.com Tue Aug 31 20:09:44 2004 From: robertblackwell at yahoo.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Tue Aug 31 20:09:46 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Apple Store Opening! In-Reply-To: <20040831225200.GB45695@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <20040901010944.73661.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> -n- --- Casey West wrote: > It was Tuesday, August 31, 2004 when Chris Winters > took the soap box, saying: > : On Aug 31, 2004, at 10:26 AM, Tom Moertel wrote: > : >I'm interested, too. That time seems to work. > : > : Okay, why don't we say 11:00 at the Apple Store? > > I'm down. > > : >And there is a Coffee Tree Roasters, if at some > time we should need > : >delightful beverages. Mmmm... Indian Monsooned > Malabar. > : > : Sounds excellent! > > x2! > > Casey West > > -- > "Bite the wax tadpole." > --Coca-Cola as originally translated into Chinese > > _______________________________________________ > pgh-pm mailing list > pgh-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm > ===== Robert Blackwell robert@robertblackwell.com AIM: robertdblackwell Yahoo!: robertblackwell Jabber: robertblackwell@jabber.com http://www.robertblackwell.com