http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/22/1457214&mode=thread&tid=25 Just a 3.5 hour drive, I should see *all* of you there. :-) Casey West -- Shooting yourself in the foot with Fortran You shoot yourself in each toe, iteratively, until you run out of toes; then you shoot the sixth bullet anyway since no exception processing was anticipated.