From davidhand at davidhand.com Wed Dec 4 07:28:07 2002 From: davidhand at davidhand.com (David Hand) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Blort! Message-ID: <20021204132807.GA6952@bltss.org> Okay, this list needs to be sparked a bit. Hi! I'm David Hand. I don't yet live in Pittsburgh, but I will soon, having just taken a job for a Pittsburgh company. My current project is a module, JavaScript::Parser, that does what you might expect. Next project will be Grammar::Munger, which will perform all of those wonderfuul transformations and analyses given in the algorithm listings of the Dragon Book[1]. Also working on a YAML version of the Klingon dictionary as part of a continuing effort to learn the fastest growing language in the Alpha Quadrant. So, what'll be on-topic? Random postings by members introducing themselves? Beer? Whisky? I'm from NY.pm, so I don't presume Perl will necessarily be on-topic here. :-) [1] http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201100886 -- David "cogent" Hand From casey at geeknest.com Wed Dec 4 08:28:39 2002 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Blort! In-Reply-To: <20021204132807.GA6952@bltss.org> References: <20021204132807.GA6952@bltss.org> Message-ID: <20021204142839.GC20563@geeknest.com> It was Wednesday, December 04, 2002 when David Hand took the soap box, saying: : Okay, this list needs to be sparked a bit. *zap* : Hi! I'm David Hand. I don't yet live in Pittsburgh, but I will soon, : having just taken a job for a Pittsburgh company. : : My current project is a module, JavaScript::Parser, that does what you : might expect. Next project will be Grammar::Munger, which will perform : all of those wonderfuul transformations and analyses given in the : algorithm listings of the Dragon Book[1]. Also working on a YAML : version of the Klingon dictionary as part of a continuing effort to : learn the fastest growing language in the Alpha Quadrant. : : So, what'll be on-topic? Random postings by members introducing : themselves? Beer? Whisky? I'm from NY.pm, so I don't presume Perl : will necessarily be on-topic here. :-) On topic is indeed as you'd expect. Whatever we want to talk about. Introductions are very welcome. I'll be posting meeting reminders and such soon. We have about 10 members on the list so far but I'm hoping to increase that number soon. -- Casey West From casey at geeknest.com Wed Dec 4 08:37:59 2002 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Welcome and a tiny Quiz Message-ID: <20021204143759.GD20563@geeknest.com> I see David beat me to it. :-) Welcome to the new and hopefully improved Pittsburgh Perl Mongers. I'm your host, Casey West. I enjoy short walks in the park, and long sits in a park with Wireless access. But enough about that. I work for DynDNS.org. My current personal project is just tinkering. I'm learning some new things and finding ways to implement them. I'll be talking about this at a meeting some time soon. I'm the ring leader for Pittsburgh.pm so I'll be running the web site and the mailing list. Meetings will also be figured out by me but will only work with the generous help of you folks. So, here are some questions I'd like to have answered. How would you like meetings to work? - Social and Technical separate - Social and Technical together - Something else entirely What sort of things would you like to learn about at meetings? What sort of things would you like to talk about at meetings? Thanks for signing up, see you soon! -- Casey West From avi at finkel.org Wed Dec 4 07:52:36 2002 From: avi at finkel.org (Avi) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Welcome and a tiny Quiz In-Reply-To: <20021204143759.GD20563@geeknest.com> References: <20021204143759.GD20563@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <3DEE08A4.3070204@finkel.org> Hello to the list, I am Avi. As for meetings, I prefer to have sepaate "social" and "technical" meetings -- I think that the issue of venues is enough reason to keep them vagules separate. That is, it's hard to set up an overhead projector at a Robot Fighting Club, and it's equally difficult to get wetbar service in a conference room. :) --Avi Casey West wrote: >I see David beat me to it. :-) > >Welcome to the new and hopefully improved Pittsburgh Perl Mongers. >I'm your host, Casey West. I enjoy short walks in the park, and long >sits in a park with Wireless access. But enough about that. > >I work for DynDNS.org. My current personal project is just >tinkering. I'm learning some new things and finding ways to implement >them. I'll be talking about this at a meeting some time soon. > >I'm the ring leader for Pittsburgh.pm so I'll be running the web site >and the mailing list. Meetings will also be figured out by me but >will only work with the generous help of you folks. > >So, here are some questions I'd like to have answered. > >How would you like meetings to work? > > - Social and Technical separate > - Social and Technical together > - Something else entirely > >What sort of things would you like to learn about at meetings? > >What sort of things would you like to talk about at meetings? > > >Thanks for signing up, see you soon! > > > > From stella at alumni.princeton.edu Wed Dec 4 08:27:00 2002 From: stella at alumni.princeton.edu (Stella Daily) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Welcome and a tiny Quiz Message-ID: <20021204062700.20617.h021.c007.wm@mail.alumni.princeton.edu.criticalpath.net> > I see David beat me to it. :-) 'Ello, all. I'm David's girlfriend. That's about all the connection to Perl I have, unless you count having gone through 10 chapters of the Llama book. I'm a medical writer and editor, and I'm looking for a job (and/or freelance work) in Pittsburgh. I'll be moving, job or not, by the end of January. Oh, yeah, and I'm a crossword constructor. Fun, huh? > So, here are some questions I'd like to have answered. > > How would you like meetings to work? I'm up for social and technical separate. That way I can send David to technical meetings and show up for the social ones. > What sort of things would you like to learn about at > meetings? Care and feeding of your geek? Otherwise...I'll leave this question to those for whom learning about Perl would be useful. :-) > What sort of things would you like to talk about at > meetings? Ah, seems whenever you put a roomful of Perl geeks together, some sort of interesting conversation ensues, so I don't really have an opinion. -Stella From barries at slaysys.com Wed Dec 4 08:54:47 2002 From: barries at slaysys.com (Barrie Slaymaker) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Welcome and a tiny Quiz In-Reply-To: <20021204143759.GD20563@geeknest.com>; from casey@geeknest.com on Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 09:37:59AM -0500 References: <20021204143759.GD20563@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <20021204095441.B9453@sizzle.whoville.com> > How would you like meetings to work? > - Social and Technical separate Please :). > What sort of things would you like to learn about at meetings? What others are doing with Perl (and related stuff) and know well enough to talk about. > What sort of things would you like to talk about at meetings? Oh, various things. Any of my CPAN modules, and I have a few talks that didn't make it in to the OScon review process before the Perl slots were full last year: - Machine Generating Perl code - Managing Subprocesses with IPC::Run - Understanding and Using XML::SAX::Machines - Using tv and Test::Verbose to support a tests-first process That last one isn't outlined at this point :). There's also a few other ones I want to cook up, like using StateML to specify, document, implement, and test state machines in various languages and DBML to do the same for database schemas. - Barrie From sean at redhandsoftware.com Wed Dec 4 09:52:57 2002 From: sean at redhandsoftware.com (Sean McCune) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Welcome and a tiny Quiz In-Reply-To: <20021204143759.GD20563@geeknest.com> References: <20021204143759.GD20563@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <50025.192.168.1.5.1039017177.squirrel@www.mccinternal.com> Hey all, > - Social and Technical separate > - Social and Technical together > - Something else entirely > It depends. Going out for a beer and a sandwich after a technical meeting sounds fine. But if its going to be more elaborate than that, then having them separate is probably a good idea. > What sort of things would you like to learn about at meetings? > Who's doing what with perl and why. Especially, practical applications of various perl modules, not just an abstract presentation of Foo::Bar. > What sort of things would you like to talk about at meetings? > Well, if I ever think up anything to talk about, I'll let you know. :) McC From casey at geeknest.com Thu Dec 12 08:56:11 2002 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Proposed March Social Meeting - Please Discuss Message-ID: <20021212145611.GH18217@geeknest.com> So, I think I can get a group of us (10 or more) to laser for $3/game/person, each game being about 15 minutes. This is at 'The Fun Zone' in Harmerville (Take Route 28). They also have bowling, pool, arcades etc, and a pub to relax when we get our lazy selves tired out. What do you think? -- Casey West From casey at geeknest.com Thu Dec 12 08:57:31 2002 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Proposed March Social Meeting - Please Discuss In-Reply-To: <20021212145611.GH18217@geeknest.com> References: <20021212145611.GH18217@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <20021212145731.GI18217@geeknest.com> It was Thursday, December 12, 2002 when Casey West took the soap box, saying: : So, I think I can get a group of us (10 or more) to laser for That was most certainly supposed to be s/laser/laser tag/. -- Casey West From casey at geeknest.com Thu Dec 12 10:25:49 2002 From: casey at geeknest.com (casey@geeknest.com) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Pittsburgh Perl Mongers | Meeting | 01.08.2003 Message-ID: <20021212162549.4070D1CD447@caseywest.com> *Social Meeting at Robot Club* This social meeting is at the Robot Club & Grille, a robot-themed restaurant. There we can eat and talk Perl while robots duel to the mechanical death in the cage. This place boasts "The best meal you've ever had behind bullet-proof glass!" Thanks to Avi Finkel for mentioning this venue. According to the web site, you can buy robot supplies there for creating your own chaos. But more importantly, they'll offer robots for rent so we can tear each other to pieces. *Location* Robot Club & Grille http://robot-club.com Norwin Town Square 01.08.2003 02:00 *Details* Renting robots costs 5.00 USD per person per fight. There are also special large robots called "trashers" for 20.00 USD per person. These "trashers" get to beat the crap out of random stuff such as TVs and old computers. Burgers seem to be about 6.00 USD. Group discounts are currently being looked into, with no promise as of now. -- Casey West (via automation) From casey at geeknest.com Thu Dec 12 13:31:19 2002 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] 02.2003 Lightning Talks Call For Participation Message-ID: <20021212193119.GK18217@geeknest.com> The techincal meeting schedule for February has a little problem. No speakers! There are a bunch of us on this mailing list, I'm sure we're all doing something interesting with Perl that we can talk about for five minutes. Please (PLEASE!) email me with a title of something you can talk about. I'll remind you a few weeks before so you can prepare. Preparing five minutes is not difficult. No slides are necessary, unless you really want to. Talk about a cool module you're writing or you use. Talk about or demonstrate your cool project. Present your case for using a Perl 4, Perl 5.8, Threads, etc. I look forward to hearing from you folks, I'll post what I get on the web site as they come in. Thanks. -- Casey West From casey at geeknest.com Thu Dec 12 15:40:53 2002 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] RSS feed for meetings Message-ID: <20021212214053.GL18217@geeknest.com> No one asked for it, no one begged. There was no support from the user base, so with underwhelming enthusiasm here it is for your disapproval. http://pgh.pm.org/index.rdf Suck it up. :-) -- Casey West From davidhand at davidhand.com Thu Dec 12 14:57:06 2002 From: davidhand at davidhand.com (David Hand) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] RSS feed for meetings In-Reply-To: <20021212214053.GL18217@geeknest.com> References: <20021212214053.GL18217@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <20021212205706.GA25249@bltss.org> On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 04:40:53PM -0500, Casey West wrote: > No one asked for it, no one begged. There was no support from the > user base, so with underwhelming enthusiasm here it is for your > disapproval. > > http://pgh.pm.org/index.rdf > > Suck it up. :-) Wow. Cool stuff. You've decided my next diversion: learning how Mozilla sidebars work. Having PGH.pm in my sidebar might actually make me use that feature. :-) -- David "cogent" Hand From davidhand at davidhand.com Thu Dec 12 15:10:14 2002 From: davidhand at davidhand.com (David Hand) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] 02.2003 Lightning Talks Call For Participation In-Reply-To: <20021212193119.GK18217@geeknest.com> References: <20021212193119.GK18217@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <20021212211014.GA25404@bltss.org> On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:31:19PM -0500, Casey West wrote: > The techincal meeting schedule for February has a little problem. No > speakers! There are a bunch of us on this mailing list, I'm sure > we're all doing something interesting with Perl that we can talk about > for five minutes. Hey! What'm I? Chopped liver? :-) I'm already listed on the site, even! > Please (PLEASE!) email me with a title of something you can talk > about. I'll remind you a few weeks before so you can prepare. > Preparing five minutes is not difficult. No slides are necessary, > unless you really want to. Perhaps it's time to specify beyond "Something Interesting". Will there be a projector suitable for connecting to my powerbook? I'm considering demonstrating GD::SIRDS, which people might think cool. Or maybe I'll talk a little bit about JavaScript::Parser. I'd *really* like to have it on CPAN by then, which means I could give a really quick talk on how to use it. I could even do both (assuming JS::P is ready), if you're really pressed for presentations. -- David "cogent" Hand From davidhand at davidhand.com Wed Dec 18 07:51:17 2002 From: davidhand at davidhand.com (David Hand) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Moving to Pittsburgh: help me find an apartment! Message-ID: <20021218135117.GA16569@bltss.org> Pittsburgh Perlers: I'm about to move to your fair city, from New York. I'm therefore looking for an apartment. I need a one-bedroom within walking distance or bus ride of the Strip District, ideally for about $500. And the lease needs to be month-to-month or otherwise flexible. Might anyone have any suggestions? :-) Time to get on a train. :-) -- David "cogent" Hand From casey at geeknest.com Wed Dec 18 08:50:30 2002 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Bravo Chris Winters Message-ID: <20021218145030.GS18217@geeknest.com> Many of you may not know that Chris Winters, mastermind behind OpenInteract, is a local Perl guy. Now you do. Bravo to him for sending used Perl books to disadvantaged children. And he got email from them, that they wrote programs to send! Too cool. http://www.cwinters.com/News/show/?news_id=757 -- Casey West From bmj at anklebiter.net Wed Dec 18 08:10:03 2002 From: bmj at anklebiter.net (brian janaszek) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Moving to Pittsburgh: help me find an apartment! In-Reply-To: <20021218135117.GA16569@bltss.org> Message-ID: <672D9940-1292-11D7-808E-003065E4B30E@anklebiter.net> hmmm, walking distance to the strip (and $500 a month) might be a little tough. the north side is a possibility, though that would be a long walk. the best options might be bloomfield or lawrenceville, which are within a few miles of the strip, and an easy bus ride away. the pittsburgh city paper (http://pghcitypaper.com) is usually a good source for housing within the city, though i'm not sure if their site includes real estate listings. brian On Wednesday, December 18, 2002, at 08:51 AM, David Hand wrote: > Pittsburgh Perlers: > > I'm about to move to your fair city, from New York. I'm therefore > looking for an apartment. > > I need a one-bedroom within walking distance or bus ride of the Strip > District, ideally for about $500. And the lease needs to be > month-to-month or otherwise flexible. > > Might anyone have any suggestions? :-) > > Time to get on a train. :-) > > -- > David "cogent" Hand > > _______________________________________________ > pgh-pm mailing list > pgh-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm > > From casey at geeknest.com Wed Dec 18 09:26:49 2002 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Moving to Pittsburgh: help me find an apartment! In-Reply-To: <20021218135117.GA16569@bltss.org> References: <20021218135117.GA16569@bltss.org> Message-ID: <20021218152649.GU18217@geeknest.com> It was Wednesday, December 18, 2002 when David Hand took the soap box, saying: : Pittsburgh Perlers: : : I need a one-bedroom within walking distance or bus ride of the Strip : District, ideally for about $500. And the lease needs to be : month-to-month or otherwise flexible. Though I don't live in the city, I do know that the bus system in Pittsburgh is pretty good. If you can't find a location close to work you could ride the bus. Check http://ridegold.com, in particular: http://ridegold.com/ride/pgSave.asp Perhaps a monthy pass will serve you well. -- Casey West From chris at cwinters.com Wed Dec 18 09:38:41 2002 From: chris at cwinters.com (Chris Winters) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:56 2004 Subject: [pgh-pm] Bravo Chris Winters In-Reply-To: <20021218145030.GS18217@geeknest.com> References: <20021218145030.GS18217@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <3E009681.6070604@cwinters.com> Casey West wrote: > Bravo to him for sending used Perl books to disadvantaged children. > And he got email from them, that they wrote programs to send! Too > cool. Actually, the real kudos should go to Nick for the initiative and doing the actual teaching. Sending a book isn't *even* a piece of cake in comparison :-) Chris -- Chris Winters (chris@cwinters.com) Building enterprise-capable snack solutions since 1988.