<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hmm maybe I should call iinet. I do c# and perl. </div><div><br>On 23/05/2013, at 8:36 AM, Michael Brader <<a href="mailto:mbrader@internode.com.au">mbrader@internode.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    Hi all,<br>
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    I can assure you that there is still plenty of Perl development
    going on at iiNet and that they do hire Perl programmers fairly
    regularly. There are other languages and systems in play and their
    dream candidate would probably be the uncommon combination of Perl
    & C#, but they have plenty of devs who do Perl & only Perl
    so don't let a job ad mentioning C# put you off applying.<br>
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    Source: I work for Internode, an iiNet subsidiary, doing Perl &
    only Perl (in Adelaide, where the job ads say Perl & Java)<br>
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    Cheers,<br>
    Michael<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/23/2013 01:40 AM, Jason Nicholls
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      <div dir="ltr">iiNet used a lot of perl in the past and it
        probably still makes up chunks of critical infrastructure,
        however I think due to lack of finding perl programmers, or
        perceived issues, or simply "let's go with something
        mainstream", or some combination they've been moving away from
        it over the years. So yeah possibly some jobs with them but they
        don't seem to be a "<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bookings.com">bookings.com</a>" where they'd lap
        up every single Perl developer world-wide :)
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        <div>In general I don't recall seeing much from AU job sites for
          Perl searches in the past, it's been a while though.</div>
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        <div style="">If PHP is a better alternative to C# / .Net for
          you then Moodle are often hiring and based here in Perth.</div>
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        <div style="">As for telecommuting that's really going to depend
          on the company, and if they let you telecommute 100% of the
          time then they don't have to be based in Perth (which is the
          case for me) :)</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Ben
          Vinnerd <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ben@vinnerd.com" target="_blank">ben@vinnerd.com</a>></span>
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                    <div>Hey Mark! Yarp, small world indeed.<br>
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                    We're just going through the motions, it's early
                    doors but i'm just gathering references from
                    previous employers and clients for the ACS skills
                    assessment.<br>
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                  I saw a Perl job at iiNet many months ago. I'll keep a
                  look out in the future, would be good to stick with
                  Perl.<br>
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                Was wanting to move to near Perth (got family over there
                + the weather seems nice). <br>
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                Cheers for the info anyway. I may just go down the route
                of C#/.Net as i've seen quite a few jobs on e.g. <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.seek.com.au" target="_blank">www.seek.com.au</a> <br>
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              <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Ben<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On 22 May 2013 16:00, mark
                    ellis <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:m@rkellis.com" target="_blank">m@rkellis.com</a>></span>
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                      <p dir="ltr">Ben fancy seeing you here, small
                        world!</p>
                      <p dir="ltr">So I take it you're still planning on
                        the move?</p>
                      <p dir="ltr">I was there not long ago, I applied
                        for iiNet, never heard back, but I didn't try
                        very hard because I got a farn job instead.</p>
                      <p dir="ltr">You should find work although you
                        might have to learn another language (.net is
                        big in aus in my experience)</p>
                      <p dir="ltr">There's perl jobs in sydney (yahoo is
                        a perl house iirc, sydney-pm is quite helpful!)
                        And in Melbourne I think</p>
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                          <p dir="ltr">Mark</p>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">On 22 May 2013 21:40,
                            "Ben Vinnerd" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ben@vinnerd.com" target="_blank">ben@vinnerd.com</a>>
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                                  <div>Thanks, Leon.<br>
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                                  I guess lack of replies could mean I
                                  need to learn something new!<br>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On 21 May 2013
                                  10:26, Leon Wright <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:techman83@gmail.com" target="_blank">techman83@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">Ben,
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                                      <div>Last I heard, iiNet were
                                        chasing good perl developers.
                                        That was a while ago though.</div>
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                                      <div>In regards to telecommuting,
                                        maybe someone else can chime in
                                        as I'm not sure :)</div>
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                                      <div>Leon</div>
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                                      <div>--<br>
                                        DRM 'manages access' in the same
                                        way that jail 'manages freedom.'<br>
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                                        # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep
                                        -i cats<br>
                                        Damn, my RAM is full of cats...
                                        MEOW!!</div>
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                                          <div>On Tue, May 21, 2013 at
                                            5:15 PM, Ben Vinnerd <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ben@vinnerd.com" target="_blank">ben@vinnerd.com</a>></span>
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                                                        <div>Hi,<br>
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                                                        My family and I
                                                        are looking to
                                                        emmigrate to WA
                                                        within the next
                                                        couple of years.
                                                        I've been
                                                        developing in
                                                        Perl mainly for
                                                        the past 13
                                                        years. I have a
                                                        few questions,
                                                        if you could
                                                        help out that
                                                        would be amazing
                                                        :)<br>
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                                                      There doesn't seem
                                                      to be much demand
                                                      for Perl in WA.
                                                      Are all the jobs
                                                      hidden away
                                                      somewhere? What
                                                      are the best job
                                                      websites? I check
                                                      on <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.seek.com.au" target="_blank">www.seek.com.au</a> quite
                                                      often, but when I
                                                      search for "Perl"
                                                      the results are
                                                      mainly C#/.Net
                                                      jobs, with the odd
                                                      PHP or Java job.<br>
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                                                    There seems to be
                                                    some Perl jobs on
                                                    the East coast. What
                                                    are
                                                    employer's/client's
                                                    attitudes towards
                                                    WFH (working from
                                                    home) within
                                                    Australia?<br>
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                                                  Is it worth learning
                                                  another language? (I'm
                                                  guessing so). Are
                                                  there many companies
                                                  that would employ a
                                                  Perl developer and
                                                  train them up in
                                                  another language
                                                  (given the number of
                                                  years experience I
                                                  have as a developer in
                                                  general).<br>
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                                                Cheers,<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Ben</div>
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Michael Brader                    Senior Software Engineer and Perl Person
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