From ben at vinnerd.com  Tue May 21 02:15:08 2013
From: ben at vinnerd.com (Ben Vinnerd)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 10:15:08 +0100
Subject: [Perth-pm] Perl Jobs in WA
Message-ID: <CAHP0ZzJ4fSQtpZAk56AfMw73V2Es9bjhaHkicszu5xp-d+JPTw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

My family and I are looking to emmigrate to WA within the next couple of
years. I've been developing in Perl mainly for the past 13 years. I have a
few questions, if you could help out that would be amazing :)

There doesn't seem to be much demand for Perl in WA. Are all the jobs
hidden away somewhere? What are the best job websites? I check on
www.seek.com.au quite often, but when I search for "Perl" the results are
mainly C#/.Net jobs, with the odd PHP or Java job.

There seems to be some Perl jobs on the East coast. What are
employer's/client's attitudes towards WFH (working from home) within
Australia?

Is it worth learning another language? (I'm guessing so). Are there many
companies that would employ a Perl developer and train them up in another
language (given the number of years experience I have as a developer in
general).

Cheers,

Ben
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From techman83 at gmail.com  Tue May 21 02:26:45 2013
From: techman83 at gmail.com (Leon Wright)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 17:26:45 +0800
Subject: [Perth-pm] Perl Jobs in WA
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Ben,

Last I heard, iiNet were chasing good perl developers. That was a while ago
though.

In regards to telecommuting, maybe someone else can chime in as I'm not
sure :)

Leon

--
DRM 'manages access' in the same way that jail 'manages freedom.'

# cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i cats
Damn, my RAM is full of cats... MEOW!!


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Ben Vinnerd <ben at vinnerd.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My family and I are looking to emmigrate to WA within the next couple of
> years. I've been developing in Perl mainly for the past 13 years. I have a
> few questions, if you could help out that would be amazing :)
>
> There doesn't seem to be much demand for Perl in WA. Are all the jobs
> hidden away somewhere? What are the best job websites? I check on
> www.seek.com.au quite often, but when I search for "Perl" the results are
> mainly C#/.Net jobs, with the odd PHP or Java job.
>
> There seems to be some Perl jobs on the East coast. What are
> employer's/client's attitudes towards WFH (working from home) within
> Australia?
>
> Is it worth learning another language? (I'm guessing so). Are there many
> companies that would employ a Perl developer and train them up in another
> language (given the number of years experience I have as a developer in
> general).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben
>
> _______________________________________________
> Perth-pm mailing list
> Perth-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/perth-pm
>
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From ben at vinnerd.com  Wed May 22 07:40:20 2013
From: ben at vinnerd.com (Ben Vinnerd)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 15:40:20 +0100
Subject: [Perth-pm] Perl Jobs in WA
In-Reply-To: <CAGHRBmRf572VqE0Zo+GZvMn06ewr9Y+kP3qx_8PD6aOsz3NzXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHP0ZzJ4fSQtpZAk56AfMw73V2Es9bjhaHkicszu5xp-d+JPTw@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks, Leon.

I guess lack of replies could mean I need to learn something new!

Ben


On 21 May 2013 10:26, Leon Wright <techman83 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ben,
>
> Last I heard, iiNet were chasing good perl developers. That was a while
> ago though.
>
> In regards to telecommuting, maybe someone else can chime in as I'm not
> sure :)
>
> Leon
>
> --
> DRM 'manages access' in the same way that jail 'manages freedom.'
>
> # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i cats
> Damn, my RAM is full of cats... MEOW!!
>
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Ben Vinnerd <ben at vinnerd.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My family and I are looking to emmigrate to WA within the next couple of
>> years. I've been developing in Perl mainly for the past 13 years. I have a
>> few questions, if you could help out that would be amazing :)
>>
>> There doesn't seem to be much demand for Perl in WA. Are all the jobs
>> hidden away somewhere? What are the best job websites? I check on
>> www.seek.com.au quite often, but when I search for "Perl" the results
>> are mainly C#/.Net jobs, with the odd PHP or Java job.
>>
>> There seems to be some Perl jobs on the East coast. What are
>> employer's/client's attitudes towards WFH (working from home) within
>> Australia?
>>
>> Is it worth learning another language? (I'm guessing so). Are there many
>> companies that would employ a Perl developer and train them up in another
>> language (given the number of years experience I have as a developer in
>> general).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Perth-pm mailing list
>> Perth-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/perth-pm
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Perth-pm mailing list
> Perth-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/perth-pm
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From m at rkellis.com  Wed May 22 08:00:12 2013
From: m at rkellis.com (mark ellis)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 22:00:12 +0700
Subject: [Perth-pm] Perl Jobs in WA
In-Reply-To: <CAHP0Zz+3KRgfiQprw1U3rySPb6_XRo1EhkRgkS5=XEP-NnBPCA@mail.gmail.com>
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Ben fancy seeing you here, small world!

So I take it you're still planning on the move?

I was there not long ago, I applied for iiNet, never heard back, but I
didn't try very hard because I got a farn job instead.

You should find work although you might have to learn another language
(.net is big in aus in my experience)

There's perl jobs in sydney (yahoo is a perl house iirc, sydney-pm is quite
helpful!) And in Melbourne I think

Mark
On 22 May 2013 21:40, "Ben Vinnerd" <ben at vinnerd.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Leon.
>
> I guess lack of replies could mean I need to learn something new!
>
> Ben
>
>
> On 21 May 2013 10:26, Leon Wright <techman83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ben,
>>
>> Last I heard, iiNet were chasing good perl developers. That was a while
>> ago though.
>>
>> In regards to telecommuting, maybe someone else can chime in as I'm not
>> sure :)
>>
>> Leon
>>
>> --
>> DRM 'manages access' in the same way that jail 'manages freedom.'
>>
>> # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i cats
>> Damn, my RAM is full of cats... MEOW!!
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Ben Vinnerd <ben at vinnerd.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My family and I are looking to emmigrate to WA within the next couple of
>>> years. I've been developing in Perl mainly for the past 13 years. I have a
>>> few questions, if you could help out that would be amazing :)
>>>
>>> There doesn't seem to be much demand for Perl in WA. Are all the jobs
>>> hidden away somewhere? What are the best job websites? I check on
>>> www.seek.com.au quite often, but when I search for "Perl" the results
>>> are mainly C#/.Net jobs, with the odd PHP or Java job.
>>>
>>> There seems to be some Perl jobs on the East coast. What are
>>> employer's/client's attitudes towards WFH (working from home) within
>>> Australia?
>>>
>>> Is it worth learning another language? (I'm guessing so). Are there many
>>> companies that would employ a Perl developer and train them up in another
>>> language (given the number of years experience I have as a developer in
>>> general).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Perth-pm mailing list
>>> Perth-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/perth-pm
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Perth-pm mailing list
>> Perth-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/perth-pm
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Perth-pm mailing list
> Perth-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/perth-pm
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From ben at vinnerd.com  Wed May 22 08:08:46 2013
From: ben at vinnerd.com (Ben Vinnerd)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 16:08:46 +0100
Subject: [Perth-pm] Perl Jobs in WA
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	<CAGHRBmRf572VqE0Zo+GZvMn06ewr9Y+kP3qx_8PD6aOsz3NzXg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHP0Zz+3KRgfiQprw1U3rySPb6_XRo1EhkRgkS5=XEP-NnBPCA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hey Mark! Yarp, small world indeed.

We're just going through the motions, it's early doors but i'm just
gathering references from previous employers and clients for the ACS skills
assessment.

I saw a Perl job at iiNet many months ago. I'll keep a look out in the
future, would be good to stick with Perl.

Was wanting to move to near Perth (got family over there + the weather
seems nice).

Cheers for the info anyway. I may just go down the route of C#/.Net as i've
seen quite a few jobs on e.g. www.seek.com.au

Ben


On 22 May 2013 16:00, mark ellis <m at rkellis.com> wrote:

> Ben fancy seeing you here, small world!
>
> So I take it you're still planning on the move?
>
> I was there not long ago, I applied for iiNet, never heard back, but I
> didn't try very hard because I got a farn job instead.
>
> You should find work although you might have to learn another language
> (.net is big in aus in my experience)
>
> There's perl jobs in sydney (yahoo is a perl house iirc, sydney-pm is
> quite helpful!) And in Melbourne I think
>
> Mark
> On 22 May 2013 21:40, "Ben Vinnerd" <ben at vinnerd.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Leon.
>>
>> I guess lack of replies could mean I need to learn something new!
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On 21 May 2013 10:26, Leon Wright <techman83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ben,
>>>
>>> Last I heard, iiNet were chasing good perl developers. That was a while
>>> ago though.
>>>
>>> In regards to telecommuting, maybe someone else can chime in as I'm not
>>> sure :)
>>>
>>> Leon
>>>
>>> --
>>> DRM 'manages access' in the same way that jail 'manages freedom.'
>>>
>>> # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i cats
>>> Damn, my RAM is full of cats... MEOW!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Ben Vinnerd <ben at vinnerd.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> My family and I are looking to emmigrate to WA within the next couple
>>>> of years. I've been developing in Perl mainly for the past 13 years. I have
>>>> a few questions, if you could help out that would be amazing :)
>>>>
>>>> There doesn't seem to be much demand for Perl in WA. Are all the jobs
>>>> hidden away somewhere? What are the best job websites? I check on
>>>> www.seek.com.au quite often, but when I search for "Perl" the results
>>>> are mainly C#/.Net jobs, with the odd PHP or Java job.
>>>>
>>>> There seems to be some Perl jobs on the East coast. What are
>>>> employer's/client's attitudes towards WFH (working from home) within
>>>> Australia?
>>>>
>>>> Is it worth learning another language? (I'm guessing so). Are there
>>>> many companies that would employ a Perl developer and train them up in
>>>> another language (given the number of years experience I have as a
>>>> developer in general).
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Perth-pm mailing list
>>>> Perth-pm at pm.org
>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/perth-pm
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Perth-pm mailing list
>>> Perth-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/perth-pm
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Perth-pm mailing list
>> Perth-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/perth-pm
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jason at mindsocket.com.au  Wed May 22 09:10:57 2013
From: jason at mindsocket.com.au (Jason Nicholls)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 02:10:57 +1000
Subject: [Perth-pm] Perl Jobs in WA
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iiNet used a lot of perl in the past and it probably still makes up chunks
of critical infrastructure, however I think due to lack of finding perl
programmers, or perceived issues, or simply "let's go with something
mainstream", or some combination they've been moving away from it over the
years. So yeah possibly some jobs with them but they don't seem to be a "
bookings.com" where they'd lap up every single Perl developer world-wide :)

In general I don't recall seeing much from AU job sites for Perl searches
in the past, it's been a while though.

If PHP is a better alternative to C# / .Net for you then Moodle are often
hiring and based here in Perth.

As for telecommuting that's really going to depend on the company, and if
they let you telecommute 100% of the time then they don't have to be based
in Perth (which is the case for me) :)



On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Ben Vinnerd <ben at vinnerd.com> wrote:

> Hey Mark! Yarp, small world indeed.
>
> We're just going through the motions, it's early doors but i'm just
> gathering references from previous employers and clients for the ACS skills
> assessment.
>
> I saw a Perl job at iiNet many months ago. I'll keep a look out in the
> future, would be good to stick with Perl.
>
> Was wanting to move to near Perth (got family over there + the weather
> seems nice).
>
> Cheers for the info anyway. I may just go down the route of C#/.Net as
> i've seen quite a few jobs on e.g. www.seek.com.au
>
> Ben
>
>
> On 22 May 2013 16:00, mark ellis <m at rkellis.com> wrote:
>
>> Ben fancy seeing you here, small world!
>>
>> So I take it you're still planning on the move?
>>
>> I was there not long ago, I applied for iiNet, never heard back, but I
>> didn't try very hard because I got a farn job instead.
>>
>> You should find work although you might have to learn another language
>> (.net is big in aus in my experience)
>>
>> There's perl jobs in sydney (yahoo is a perl house iirc, sydney-pm is
>> quite helpful!) And in Melbourne I think
>>
>> Mark
>> On 22 May 2013 21:40, "Ben Vinnerd" <ben at vinnerd.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Leon.
>>>
>>> I guess lack of replies could mean I need to learn something new!
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21 May 2013 10:26, Leon Wright <techman83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ben,
>>>>
>>>> Last I heard, iiNet were chasing good perl developers. That was a while
>>>> ago though.
>>>>
>>>> In regards to telecommuting, maybe someone else can chime in as I'm not
>>>> sure :)
>>>>
>>>> Leon
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> DRM 'manages access' in the same way that jail 'manages freedom.'
>>>>
>>>> # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i cats
>>>> Damn, my RAM is full of cats... MEOW!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Ben Vinnerd <ben at vinnerd.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> My family and I are looking to emmigrate to WA within the next couple
>>>>> of years. I've been developing in Perl mainly for the past 13 years. I have
>>>>> a few questions, if you could help out that would be amazing :)
>>>>>
>>>>> There doesn't seem to be much demand for Perl in WA. Are all the jobs
>>>>> hidden away somewhere? What are the best job websites? I check on
>>>>> www.seek.com.au quite often, but when I search for "Perl" the results
>>>>> are mainly C#/.Net jobs, with the odd PHP or Java job.
>>>>>
>>>>> There seems to be some Perl jobs on the East coast. What are
>>>>> employer's/client's attitudes towards WFH (working from home) within
>>>>> Australia?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it worth learning another language? (I'm guessing so). Are there
>>>>> many companies that would employ a Perl developer and train them up in
>>>>> another language (given the number of years experience I have as a
>>>>> developer in general).
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Perth-pm mailing list
>>>>> Perth-pm at pm.org
>>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/perth-pm
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Perth-pm mailing list
>>>> Perth-pm at pm.org
>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/perth-pm
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Perth-pm mailing list
>>> Perth-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/perth-pm
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Perth-pm mailing list
>> Perth-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/perth-pm
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Perth-pm mailing list
> Perth-pm at pm.org
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-- 
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From mbrader at internode.com.au  Wed May 22 17:36:58 2013
From: mbrader at internode.com.au (Michael Brader)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 10:06:58 +0930
Subject: [Perth-pm] Perl Jobs in WA
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Hi all,

I can assure you that there is still plenty of Perl development going on at 
iiNet and that they do hire Perl programmers fairly regularly. There are 
other languages and systems in play and their dream candidate would 
probably be the uncommon combination of Perl & C#, but they have plenty of 
devs who do Perl & only Perl so don't let a job ad mentioning C# put you 
off applying.

Source: I work for Internode, an iiNet subsidiary, doing Perl & only Perl 
(in Adelaide, where the job ads say Perl & Java)

Cheers,
Michael


On 05/23/2013 01:40 AM, Jason Nicholls wrote:
> iiNet used a lot of perl in the past and it probably still makes up 
> chunks of critical infrastructure, however I think due to lack of finding 
> perl programmers, or perceived issues, or simply "let's go with something 
> mainstream", or some combination they've been moving away from it over 
> the years. So yeah possibly some jobs with them but they don't seem to be 
> a "bookings.com <http://bookings.com>" where they'd lap up every single 
> Perl developer world-wide :)
>
> In general I don't recall seeing much from AU job sites for Perl searches 
> in the past, it's been a while though.
>
> If PHP is a better alternative to C# / .Net for you then Moodle are often 
> hiring and based here in Perth.
>
> As for telecommuting that's really going to depend on the company, and if 
> they let you telecommute 100% of the time then they don't have to be 
> based in Perth (which is the case for me) :)
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Ben Vinnerd <ben at vinnerd.com 
> <mailto:ben at vinnerd.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hey Mark! Yarp, small world indeed.
>
>     We're just going through the motions, it's early doors but i'm just
>     gathering references from previous employers and clients for the ACS
>     skills assessment.
>
>     I saw a Perl job at iiNet many months ago. I'll keep a look out in
>     the future, would be good to stick with Perl.
>
>     Was wanting to move to near Perth (got family over there + the
>     weather seems nice).
>
>     Cheers for the info anyway. I may just go down the route of C#/.Net
>     as i've seen quite a few jobs on e.g. www.seek.com.au
>     <http://www.seek.com.au>
>
>     Ben
>
>
>     On 22 May 2013 16:00, mark ellis <m at rkellis.com
>     <mailto:m at rkellis.com>> wrote:
>
>         Ben fancy seeing you here, small world!
>
>         So I take it you're still planning on the move?
>
>         I was there not long ago, I applied for iiNet, never heard back,
>         but I didn't try very hard because I got a farn job instead.
>
>         You should find work although you might have to learn another
>         language (.net is big in aus in my experience)
>
>         There's perl jobs in sydney (yahoo is a perl house iirc,
>         sydney-pm is quite helpful!) And in Melbourne I think
>
>         Mark
>
>         On 22 May 2013 21:40, "Ben Vinnerd" <ben at vinnerd.com
>         <mailto:ben at vinnerd.com>> wrote:
>
>             Thanks, Leon.
>
>             I guess lack of replies could mean I need to learn something new!
>
>             Ben
>
>
>             On 21 May 2013 10:26, Leon Wright <techman83 at gmail.com
>             <mailto:techman83 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Ben,
>
>                 Last I heard, iiNet were chasing good perl developers.
>                 That was a while ago though.
>
>                 In regards to telecommuting, maybe someone else can chime
>                 in as I'm not sure :)
>
>                 Leon
>
>                 --
>                 DRM 'manages access' in the same way that jail 'manages
>                 freedom.'
>
>                 # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i cats
>                 Damn, my RAM is full of cats... MEOW!!
>
>
>                 On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Ben Vinnerd
>                 <ben at vinnerd.com <mailto:ben at vinnerd.com>> wrote:
>
>                     Hi,
>
>                     My family and I are looking to emmigrate to WA within
>                     the next couple of years. I've been developing in
>                     Perl mainly for the past 13 years. I have a few
>                     questions, if you could help out that would be amazing :)
>
>                     There doesn't seem to be much demand for Perl in WA.
>                     Are all the jobs hidden away somewhere? What are the
>                     best job websites? I check on www.seek.com.au
>                     <http://www.seek.com.au> quite often, but when I
>                     search for "Perl" the results are mainly C#/.Net
>                     jobs, with the odd PHP or Java job.
>
>                     There seems to be some Perl jobs on the East coast.
>                     What are employer's/client's attitudes towards WFH
>                     (working from home) within Australia?
>
>                     Is it worth learning another language? (I'm guessing
>                     so). Are there many companies that would employ a
>                     Perl developer and train them up in another language
>                     (given the number of years experience I have as a
>                     developer in general).
>
>                     Cheers,
>
>                     Ben
>
>

-- 
Michael Brader                    Senior Software Engineer and Perl Person
Our World Wide Web has a World Wide Network      Technology/Softdev/DevOps
Internode       http://internode.on.net/          mbrader at internode.com.au
iiNet             http://iinet.net.au/         m.brader at staff.iinet.net.au

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From: lockster at gmail.com (Matthew Lock)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 09:57:10 +0800
Subject: [Perth-pm] Perl Jobs in WA
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Hmm maybe I should call iinet. I do c# and perl. 

On 23/05/2013, at 8:36 AM, Michael Brader <mbrader at internode.com.au> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I can assure you that there is still plenty of Perl development going on at iiNet and that they do hire Perl programmers fairly regularly. There are other languages and systems in play and their dream candidate would probably be the uncommon combination of Perl & C#, but they have plenty of devs who do Perl & only Perl so don't let a job ad mentioning C# put you off applying.
> 
> Source: I work for Internode, an iiNet subsidiary, doing Perl & only Perl (in Adelaide, where the job ads say Perl & Java)
> 
> Cheers,
> Michael
> 
> 
> On 05/23/2013 01:40 AM, Jason Nicholls wrote:
>> iiNet used a lot of perl in the past and it probably still makes up chunks of critical infrastructure, however I think due to lack of finding perl programmers, or perceived issues, or simply "let's go with something mainstream", or some combination they've been moving away from it over the years. So yeah possibly some jobs with them but they don't seem to be a "bookings.com" where they'd lap up every single Perl developer world-wide :)
>> 
>> In general I don't recall seeing much from AU job sites for Perl searches in the past, it's been a while though.
>> 
>> If PHP is a better alternative to C# / .Net for you then Moodle are often hiring and based here in Perth.
>> 
>> As for telecommuting that's really going to depend on the company, and if they let you telecommute 100% of the time then they don't have to be based in Perth (which is the case for me) :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Ben Vinnerd <ben at vinnerd.com> wrote:
>>> Hey Mark! Yarp, small world indeed.
>>> 
>>> We're just going through the motions, it's early doors but i'm just gathering references from previous employers and clients for the ACS skills assessment.
>>> 
>>> I saw a Perl job at iiNet many months ago. I'll keep a look out in the future, would be good to stick with Perl.
>>> 
>>> Was wanting to move to near Perth (got family over there + the weather seems nice). 
>>> 
>>> Cheers for the info anyway. I may just go down the route of C#/.Net as i've seen quite a few jobs on e.g. www.seek.com.au 
>>> 
>>> Ben
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 22 May 2013 16:00, mark ellis <m at rkellis.com> wrote:
>>>> Ben fancy seeing you here, small world!
>>>> 
>>>> So I take it you're still planning on the move?
>>>> 
>>>> I was there not long ago, I applied for iiNet, never heard back, but I didn't try very hard because I got a farn job instead.
>>>> 
>>>> You should find work although you might have to learn another language (.net is big in aus in my experience)
>>>> 
>>>> There's perl jobs in sydney (yahoo is a perl house iirc, sydney-pm is quite helpful!) And in Melbourne I think
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> On 22 May 2013 21:40, "Ben Vinnerd" <ben at vinnerd.com> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks, Leon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I guess lack of replies could mean I need to learn something new!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ben
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 21 May 2013 10:26, Leon Wright <techman83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Ben,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Last I heard, iiNet were chasing good perl developers. That was a while ago though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In regards to telecommuting,                                         maybe someone else can chime in as I'm not sure :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Leon
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> DRM 'manages access' in the same way that jail 'manages freedom.'
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i cats
>>>>>> Damn, my RAM is full of cats... MEOW!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Ben Vinnerd <ben at vinnerd.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My family and I are looking to emmigrate to WA within the next couple of years. I've been developing in Perl mainly for the past 13 years. I have a few questions, if you could help out that would be amazing :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There doesn't seem to be much demand for Perl in WA. Are all the jobs hidden away somewhere? What are the best job websites? I check on www.seek.com.au quite often, but when I search for "Perl" the results are mainly C#/.Net jobs, with the odd PHP or Java job.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There seems to be some Perl jobs on the East coast. What are employer's/client's attitudes towards WFH (working from home) within Australia?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is it worth learning another language? (I'm guessing so). Are there many companies that would employ a Perl developer and train them up in another language (given the number of years experience I have as a developer in general).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
> 
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> Our World Wide Web has a World Wide Network      Technology/Softdev/DevOps
> Internode       http://internode.on.net/          mbrader at internode.com.au
> iiNet             http://iinet.net.au/         m.brader at staff.iinet.net.au
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