<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On Jun 11, 2009, at 2:56 PM, John Sechrest wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Ingy dot Net <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ingy@ingy.net">ingy@ingy.net</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left: 1ex; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; position: static; z-index: auto; "><div class="gmail_quote"><div>I can't figure out how if/where the public signup page for the group/list is.</div></div></blockquote> <div> </div> <div><a href="http://googlegroups.com/group/listname">http://googlegroups.com/group/listname</a></div> <div> </div> <div>Is that what you mean?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That's "public" insofar as people can see it, but not insofar as non-google-account-having people can sign up (except by signing up for a google account).</div><div><br></div><div>As background, it's worth noting that google does allow non-google-account subscribers to mailing lists. The interface for it is, as far as i can tell, email-only (mailing <a href="mailto:listname-subscribe@googlegroups.com">listname-subscribe@googlegroups.com</a>). It's also buggy (i recently re-subscribed to a single group, and was incorrectly resubscribed to all groups i had ever been subscribed to), and incomplete (email only means no access to google's "flag spam" tools, etc., nor, obviously, any group assets aside from the mailing list).</div><div><br></div><div>In short, google groups may well be great for google account holders, but non-holders are second-class citizens.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>-johnnnnnn</div><br></body></html>