From joshua at keroes.com  Wed May  2 15:13:52 2012
From: joshua at keroes.com (Joshua Keroes)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 15:13:52 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Multisearch engines
Message-ID: <CAGPaCZi==D6o5wQ7ownhHb66o4MP8Rm=Dw6165fznx4BZVeMdg@mail.gmail.com>

In my company we have databases, webservers, web services, and search
engines; dozens of each. Almost every resource is an island unto itself.
Few are linked. Some are redundant. We have so many resources that I have
to show people our particular resources every few days.

A single search engine to rule them all would be a big win.

This problem has been solved before. It's called federated search, multi
search, meta search, and search aggregation. There's a nice picture at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metasearch_engine .

A rough overview of the project could look like this:

Web frontend:

   1. optionally run auto-completion while user is typing into the form
   (that's a whole different topic)
   2. send complete query to Metasearch API frontend


Metasearch API frontend:

   1. validate query
   2. normalize query (improve queries if possible)
   3. send normalized query to every subsearch handler
   4. optionally inform frontend about all subsearches (to initialize
   progress bars; etc.)
   5. normalize response (add useful info to response or delete things the
   user shouldn't see)
   6. return subsearch response


Subsearch handlers:

   1. optionally validate and normalize query (things specific to just this
   resource)
   2. search. Depending on the type of resource this can mean many things:
   search a database, check an index, fetch a web service, make a webpage
   query and scrub the results; etc.
   3. normalize response
   4. return response


Backend:

   1. Run indexers


Anyone familiar with projects in Perl-land (or outside the bubble) for
solving this? Failing that, know of any related projects I should check out
and/or leverage like Lucy/Lucene?

Thanks,
Joshua
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From ben.prew at gmail.com  Wed May  2 16:27:27 2012
From: ben.prew at gmail.com (Ben Prew)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 16:27:27 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Multisearch engines
In-Reply-To: <CAGPaCZi==D6o5wQ7ownhHb66o4MP8Rm=Dw6165fznx4BZVeMdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGPaCZi==D6o5wQ7ownhHb66o4MP8Rm=Dw6165fznx4BZVeMdg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE_6C3PxZ1BU6B75U2trJjay0DOjEvYnzxVzaBxQwtWYBBxv8w@mail.gmail.com>

I've had experience using solr (http://lucene.apache.org/solr/), but have
been attracted to elasticsearch (http://www.elasticsearch.org/).

Also, for something like the above (including Lucene), you'll probably want
a slightly different architecture then you describe below.  Instead of
having "subsearch" handlers, you'll have the individual islands (dbs, etc)
add their "documents" to the search engine, and then it will search across
them.

Something like solr or elastic search can be scaled across multiple
machines.  Solr also has a nice web-administration frontend, so you know
what each head is doing and what it's replication status is.

Perl has Plucene if you're so inclined too, but I don't have much
experience with it.


--Ben


On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Joshua Keroes <joshua at keroes.com> wrote:

> In my company we have databases, webservers, web services, and search
> engines; dozens of each. Almost every resource is an island unto itself.
> Few are linked. Some are redundant. We have so many resources that I have
> to show people our particular resources every few days.
>
> A single search engine to rule them all would be a big win.
>
> This problem has been solved before. It's called federated search, multi
> search, meta search, and search aggregation. There's a nice picture at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metasearch_engine .
>
> A rough overview of the project could look like this:
>
> Web frontend:
>
>    1. optionally run auto-completion while user is typing into the form
>    (that's a whole different topic)
>    2. send complete query to Metasearch API frontend
>
>
> Metasearch API frontend:
>
>    1. validate query
>    2. normalize query (improve queries if possible)
>    3. send normalized query to every subsearch handler
>    4. optionally inform frontend about all subsearches (to initialize
>    progress bars; etc.)
>    5. normalize response (add useful info to response or delete things
>    the user shouldn't see)
>    6. return subsearch response
>
>
> Subsearch handlers:
>
>    1. optionally validate and normalize query (things specific to just
>    this resource)
>    2. search. Depending on the type of resource this can mean many
>    things: search a database, check an index, fetch a web service, make a
>    webpage query and scrub the results; etc.
>    3. normalize response
>    4. return response
>
>
> Backend:
>
>    1. Run indexers
>
>
> Anyone familiar with projects in Perl-land (or outside the bubble) for
> solving this? Failing that, know of any related projects I should check out
> and/or leverage like Lucy/Lucene?
>
> Thanks,
> Joshua
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pdx-pm-list mailing list
> Pdx-pm-list at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list
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From zak.zebrowski at gmail.com  Wed May  2 16:32:24 2012
From: zak.zebrowski at gmail.com (Zachary Zebrowski)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 19:32:24 -0400
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Multisearch engines
In-Reply-To: <CAE_6C3PxZ1BU6B75U2trJjay0DOjEvYnzxVzaBxQwtWYBBxv8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGPaCZi==D6o5wQ7ownhHb66o4MP8Rm=Dw6165fznx4BZVeMdg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAE_6C3PxZ1BU6B75U2trJjay0DOjEvYnzxVzaBxQwtWYBBxv8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO3DSnfU=6T2cwgf4U+ZdsjmTXhCHaZOvj_ZYWteuUMveX9g1g@mail.gmail.com>

Lucy comes from kinosearch, which came from plucence, which came from
lucene.  Look at lucy.  :)

If your doing a meta search engine, look into www-mechanize, if the other
tools apis are stable and roll your own.

$0.02

Zak
On May 2, 2012 7:27 PM, "Ben Prew" <ben.prew at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've had experience using solr (http://lucene.apache.org/solr/), but have
> been attracted to elasticsearch (http://www.elasticsearch.org/).
>
> Also, for something like the above (including Lucene), you'll probably
> want a slightly different architecture then you describe below.  Instead of
> having "subsearch" handlers, you'll have the individual islands (dbs, etc)
> add their "documents" to the search engine, and then it will search across
> them.
>
> Something like solr or elastic search can be scaled across multiple
> machines.  Solr also has a nice web-administration frontend, so you know
> what each head is doing and what it's replication status is.
>
> Perl has Plucene if you're so inclined too, but I don't have much
> experience with it.
>
>
> --Ben
>
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Joshua Keroes <joshua at keroes.com> wrote:
>
>> In my company we have databases, webservers, web services, and search
>> engines; dozens of each. Almost every resource is an island unto itself.
>> Few are linked. Some are redundant. We have so many resources that I have
>> to show people our particular resources every few days.
>>
>> A single search engine to rule them all would be a big win.
>>
>> This problem has been solved before. It's called federated search, multi
>> search, meta search, and search aggregation. There's a nice picture at
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metasearch_engine .
>>
>> A rough overview of the project could look like this:
>>
>> Web frontend:
>>
>>    1. optionally run auto-completion while user is typing into the form
>>    (that's a whole different topic)
>>    2. send complete query to Metasearch API frontend
>>
>>
>> Metasearch API frontend:
>>
>>    1. validate query
>>    2. normalize query (improve queries if possible)
>>    3. send normalized query to every subsearch handler
>>    4. optionally inform frontend about all subsearches (to initialize
>>    progress bars; etc.)
>>    5. normalize response (add useful info to response or delete things
>>    the user shouldn't see)
>>    6. return subsearch response
>>
>>
>> Subsearch handlers:
>>
>>    1. optionally validate and normalize query (things specific to just
>>    this resource)
>>    2. search. Depending on the type of resource this can mean many
>>    things: search a database, check an index, fetch a web service, make a
>>    webpage query and scrub the results; etc.
>>    3. normalize response
>>    4. return response
>>
>>
>> Backend:
>>
>>    1. Run indexers
>>
>>
>> Anyone familiar with projects in Perl-land (or outside the bubble) for
>> solving this? Failing that, know of any related projects I should check out
>> and/or leverage like Lucy/Lucene?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joshua
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pdx-pm-list mailing list
>> Pdx-pm-list at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Pdx-pm-list at pm.org
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From enobacon at gmail.com  Fri May  4 01:24:31 2012
From: enobacon at gmail.com (Eric Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 01:24:31 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] meeting next week - topic?
Message-ID: <201205040124.31294.enobacon@gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm sorry to say that my prolonged state of upheaval continues and that 
this may still be a sorry excuse for not having the meeting planned any 
weeks in advance.

It was suggested that the meeting be a session of "fix the kwiki", but I 
didn't register any overwhelming enthusiasm from the group toward this, 
the suggester has since realized that his role would be "absentee 
instigator", and I have always been of the opinion that kwiki is not the 
problem (thus, a fix to it would not be a solution.)  That said, I am 
not against a meeting to address maintenance of the website or even to 
review/compare wikis if there is sufficient interest in that as a 
meeting topic.

So, please discuss.  A group exploration of some newer perl features, 
CPAN module, bug roundup, or hack session of some sort might be in 
order.  It might also be a good time to preview someone's yapcna / 
osbridge / oscon talk if anyone is needing a test audience.

--Eric
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From kellert at ohsu.edu  Fri May  4 11:37:21 2012
From: kellert at ohsu.edu (Tom Keller)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 11:37:21 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] off-topic: hacking RFID tags
Message-ID: <0D6479BE-725D-4536-9426-320ECD7BCD79@ohsu.edu>

Greetings,
I will need to learn how to change the data contained on an RFID tagged component of an instrument I will be purchasing. Anyone have experience or suggestions for how to do that? I've found this website<http://www.rfdump.org/>, but would like some local expertise and help.

thanks,
Tom

MMI DNA Services Core Facility<http://www.ohsu.edu/xd/research/research-cores/dna-analysis/>; 503-494-2442; Office: 6588 RJH; member of OHSU Shared Resources<http://www.ohsu.edu/xd/research/research-cores/index.cfm>






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From joshua at keroes.com  Fri May  4 11:44:54 2012
From: joshua at keroes.com (Joshua Keroes)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 11:44:54 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] off-topic: hacking RFID tags
In-Reply-To: <0D6479BE-725D-4536-9426-320ECD7BCD79@ohsu.edu>
References: <0D6479BE-725D-4536-9426-320ECD7BCD79@ohsu.edu>
Message-ID: <CAGPaCZhWivEG5Qd3qB_mwa3Oa8EPD7SFm8mmQHc1_CChZfj3ww@mail.gmail.com>

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/501302/can-i-write-or-modify-data-on-an-rfid-tagsays
some data is RO, some RW. If you run into trouble updating the RO
tags, maybe it would be easier to dump the current RFID and write a new
one, changing what needs to be changed.

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Tom Keller <kellert at ohsu.edu> wrote:

> Greetings,
> I will need to learn how to change the data contained on an RFID tagged
> component of an instrument I will be purchasing. Anyone have experience or
> suggestions for how to do that? I've found this website<http://www.rfdump.org/>,
> but would like some local expertise and help.
>
> thanks,
> Tom
>
> MMI DNA Services Core Facility<http://www.ohsu.edu/xd/research/research-cores/dna-analysis/>
> ; 503-494-2442; Office: 6588 RJH; member of OHSU Shared Resources<http://www.ohsu.edu/xd/research/research-cores/index.cfm>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From keithl at gate.kl-ic.com  Fri May  4 21:45:36 2012
From: keithl at gate.kl-ic.com (Keith Lofstrom)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 21:45:36 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] 49 yo Cobol book
Message-ID: <20120505044536.GA4740@gate.kl-ic.com>

Found in storage:

A Guide to Cobol Programming, Daniel D. McCracken (C) 1963

Full of examples to test your Cobol-Parrot grammar engine.
Free to a good home.

Keith

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From ben.hengst at gmail.com  Tue May  8 07:27:28 2012
From: ben.hengst at gmail.com (ben hengst)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 07:27:28 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Fwd: Books and News from the O'Reilly User Group
	ProgramBooks and News from the O'Reilly User Group Program--May7
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From enobacon at gmail.com  Thu May 10 11:19:38 2012
From: enobacon at gmail.com (Seven till Seven)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 11:19:38 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] meeting tonight: Favorite Features and Fun Facts Sharing
	Session
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Thu. May 10th, 6:53pm at FreeGeek ? 1731 SE 10th Ave.

topic:  Favorite Features and Fun Facts Sharing Session

Tonight will be a round-table session discussing your favorite Perl 
features (whether new or old) and sharing fun tidbits you've found on 
your programming and debugging adventures.  Whether you're exploring 
perl5i and other wild new meta layers, learning new tricks with Moose, 
or discovering the bottom half of the open() pod, come and share your 
knowledge (and questions) with the group.

As usual, the meeting will be followed by social hour at the Lucky Lab.
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From djshultz at gmail.com  Thu May 10 19:06:04 2012
From: djshultz at gmail.com (David Shultz)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 19:06:04 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] No meeting on may 10th?
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Showed up at free geek. Place was closed, hanging at the lucky lab in hopes of seeing anyone I'd know.  This club must be more exclusive then I thought.  If you see me at lucky lab wearing a legend of Neil shirt please say hi

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From enobacon at gmail.com  Sat May 12 00:43:15 2012
From: enobacon at gmail.com (Eric Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 00:43:15 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] No meeting on may 10th?  What about June 14th?
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# from David Shultz
# on Thursday 10 May 2012:

>Showed up at free geek. Place was closed, hanging at the lucky lab in
>hopes of seeing anyone I'd know.

Hi David,

I'm sorry we missed you.  I was at free geek from 6:45 until 7:15 or so 
and only one other person turned up.  We then went to the lucky lab, 
(where we should have put up a beacon.)

Free Geek is always closed before our meetings start, so you have to 
look for the "perl mongers" sign on the southeast door.  I'll try to 
make that more clear in future meeting announcements.

I'm sure the weather played some role in the small turnout this month, 
though my failure to have a meeting topic planned and send out 
announcements and reminders until the day of the meeting probably didn't 
help.

--Eric

From enobacon at gmail.com  Sat May 12 00:45:31 2012
From: enobacon at gmail.com (Eric Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 00:45:31 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] No meeting on may 10th?  What about June 14th?
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# from Eric Wilhelm
# on Saturday 12 May 2012:

>I'm sure the weather played some role in the small turnout this
>month,  though my failure to have a meeting topic planned and send
>out announcements and reminders until the day of the meeting probably
>didn't help.

My mail on the 4th asking for a meeting topic yielded no discussion.  
I'm not sure if that is because everyone was already planning on being 
somewhere else or just not interested in discussing it.

For things to go smoothly, I typically need to have a speaker lined-up 3 
weeks ahead of time -- at which point I work with them on getting the 
meeting announcement written so it is ready to post 2 weeks before the 
meeting.  Some months have 5 Thursdays, (and April was not one of them 
this year), so currently you all have around 2 weeks to volunteer to 
speak at next month's meeting.

Even with all of that preparation, a great speaker with a very 
interesting topic could still have a hard time getting more than a few 
people into a dark room to look at slides while the sun is shining "for 
the first time in months".  Maybe our summer meetings should be in a 
park?

There is a (very stale) page on the wiki for meeting topic suggestions.  
The lovely thing about a wiki is that you can shake that staleness right 
off of it by editing it.

 http://pdx.pm.org/kwiki/index.cgi?MeetingWishlist

Please discuss what you think would make an interesting meeting (or feel 
free to e-mail me off list or chat on irc.perl.org/#pdx.pm)  Also, if 
you haven't given a talk before, but think you might like to try, please 
feel free to contact me about that -- it is possible to even give a 5 
minute or half-meeting talk.

Thanks,
Eric

From ben.hengst at gmail.com  Tue May 15 07:58:22 2012
From: ben.hengst at gmail.com (ben hengst)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 07:58:22 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Fwd: Books and News from the O'Reilly User Group
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From brian.d.foy at gmail.com  Wed May 16 14:23:50 2012
From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 16:23:50 -0500
Subject: [Pdx-pm]  brian d foy May 20th weekend social
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Hey Portland Perl mongers,

If you haven't burned your eyes out from staring at the eclipse this
weekend, where do I get to hang out with you on Sunday evening? If
people want one of my talks, I can do that, or we can just hang out
for drinks. Anywhere near a TriMet stop is fine with me. The only name
I know is McMenamin's since Randal and I often went there.

And, even though it's not marionberry season yet, I can always hope.

Is anyone in PDX.pm a scotch drinker? Where could we do that?

-- 
brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com>
http://www.pair.com/~comdog/

From michael at jamhome.us  Thu May 17 05:50:05 2012
From: michael at jamhome.us (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 05:50:05 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] brian d foy May 20th weekend social
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On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 04:23:50PM -0500, brian d foy wrote:
> If you haven't burned your eyes out from staring at the eclipse this
> weekend, where do I get to hang out with you on Sunday evening? If
> people want one of my talks, I can do that, or we can just hang out
> for drinks. Anywhere near a TriMet stop is fine with me. The only name
> I know is McMenamin's since Randal and I often went there.
> 
> And, even though it's not marionberry season yet, I can always hope.
> 
> Is anyone in PDX.pm a scotch drinker? Where could we do that?
 
A quick poll of the Brewcrew email list (which includes home beer brewers
and many with stills for "medicinal and fuel" use) suggested Paddy's in 
downtown PDX.  For the best in the area a trip to Oregon City to the
Highland Stillhouse is the clear winner.

   http://www.highlandstillhouse.com/

Public transit on a Sunday evening makes that possibility problematic.

-- 
            Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon  
      Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/
Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier:
It is interesting that the industry has invented
new ways to lose money when the old ways seemed to work just fine.
    ~ John Stumpf, CEO Wells Fargo after the 2007 sub-prime lending debacle

From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Thu May 17 06:13:43 2012
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 06:13:43 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] brian d foy May 20th weekend social
In-Reply-To: <20120517125005.GA31309@jamhome.us> (Michael Rasmussen's message
	of "Thu, 17 May 2012 05:50:05 -0700")
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	<CAPk17=7P+0VVO7xJHa7B7pHacKWOm00CBKaXRwTAQs79pDa5aQ@mail.gmail.com>
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	<20120517125005.GA31309@jamhome.us>
Message-ID: <86sjezhrw8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Rasmussen <michael at jamhome.us> writes:

Michael> A quick poll of the Brewcrew email list (which includes home beer brewers
Michael> and many with stills for "medicinal and fuel" use) suggested Paddy's in 
Michael> downtown PDX.  For the best in the area a trip to Oregon City to the
Michael> Highland Stillhouse is the clear winner.

Michael>    http://www.highlandstillhouse.com/

That's probably also a good place to view the eclipse, if you wanted to
start at 4pm. :)

-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<merlyn at stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
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See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion

From brian.d.foy at gmail.com  Fri May 18 15:15:35 2012
From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 17:15:35 -0500
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Paddy's at 6pm on Sunday
Message-ID: <CAPk17=4EURmJJWK5qebP0KYPOFdV=TeQer+VqdFh98rSyT5kUg@mail.gmail.com>

Hey PDX.pm-ers,

I'm going to be at OSMI for their eclipse viewing party, which starts
at 4:30ish on Sunday, and then I'll be Paddy's at 65 SW Yamhill around
7:30pm. Anyone who shows up then gets to vote on what happens next. :)

OMSI's details about its activities are at
http://www.omsi.edu/node/3060 . They have the advantage of fancy
telescopes set up to look at the sun.

As I recall, Tom Phoenix used to work at OSMI, so maybe another
co-author of Learning Perl will show up. :)

-- 
brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com>
http://www.pair.com/~comdog/

From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Fri May 18 15:33:56 2012
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 15:33:56 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Paddy's at 6pm on Sunday
In-Reply-To: <CAPk17=4EURmJJWK5qebP0KYPOFdV=TeQer+VqdFh98rSyT5kUg@mail.gmail.com>
	(brian d. foy's message of "Fri, 18 May 2012 17:15:35 -0500")
References: <CAPk17=4EURmJJWK5qebP0KYPOFdV=TeQer+VqdFh98rSyT5kUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86ehqhdsq3.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "brian" == brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com> writes:

brian> Hey PDX.pm-ers,
brian> I'm going to be at OSMI for their eclipse viewing party, which starts
brian> at 4:30ish on Sunday, and then I'll be Paddy's at 65 SW Yamhill around
brian> 7:30pm. Anyone who shows up then gets to vote on what happens next. :)

brian> OMSI's details about its activities are at
brian> http://www.omsi.edu/node/3060 . They have the advantage of fancy
brian> telescopes set up to look at the sun.

brian> As I recall, Tom Phoenix used to work at OSMI, so maybe another
brian> co-author of Learning Perl will show up. :)

At least one more.  I'm also coming!

Sadly, the current weather report is 90% cloud coverage, and 90% rain,
at least according to http://weathercrack.com/.

-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<merlyn at stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion

From brian.d.foy at gmail.com  Fri May 18 15:44:53 2012
From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 17:44:53 -0500
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Paddy's at 6pm on Sunday
In-Reply-To: <86ehqhdsq3.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>
References: <CAPk17=4EURmJJWK5qebP0KYPOFdV=TeQer+VqdFh98rSyT5kUg@mail.gmail.com>
	<86ehqhdsq3.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>
Message-ID: <CAPk17=6S8q+kF4LYZ3mkUDyoKYaW_tugsoNgq=7ZOWEpv1r81g@mail.gmail.com>

> Sadly, the current weather report is 90% cloud coverage, and 90% rain,
> at least according to http://weathercrack.com/.

If we can't see the sun before we can't see the sun, I'll just be at Paddy's.


-- 
brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com>
http://www.pair.com/~comdog/

From miken at mikenpdx.com  Fri May 18 17:47:29 2012
From: miken at mikenpdx.com (miken at mikenpdx.com)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 00:47:29 +0000
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Paddy's at 6pm on Sunday
Message-ID: <20120519004729.83248.qmail@mikenpdx.com>

Maybe someone can bring in an Abbey Road CD so that we can listen to "Here Comes the Sun" to get the Gods to keep the clouds from getting in the way too much.

- Mike

<br><br><br>------- Original Message -------
On 5/18/2012  10:44 PM brian d foy wrote:<br>> Sadly, the current weather report is 90% cloud coverage, and 90% rain,
<br>> at least according to http://weathercrack.com/.
<br>
<br>If we can't see the sun before we can't see the sun, I'll just be at Paddy's.
<br>
<br>
<br>-- 
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From keithl at gate.kl-ic.com  Fri May 18 18:19:14 2012
From: keithl at gate.kl-ic.com (Keith Lofstrom)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 18:19:14 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Eclipse Sunday
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On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 05:15:35PM -0500, brian d foy wrote:
> Hey PDX.pm-ers,
> 
> I'm going to be at OSMI for their eclipse viewing party, which starts
> at 4:30ish on Sunday, and then I'll be Paddy's at 65 SW Yamhill around
> 7:30pm. Anyone who shows up then gets to vote on what happens next. :)

FYI -

The PLUG Linux Clinic happens at Free Geek Sunday the 20th between
1 and 5, helping folks with their Linux problems.  While that is
going on, I hope to run the live feed from Fujiyama:

 http://panasonic.net/eclipselive/ 

... on the big screen in the room.  That will happen from about
2pm to 5pm PDT.  It will be monday morning in Japan.  After the
Clinic, I'll head to OMSI, perhaps to see some soggy (and hard
to light) astronomers.

The current forecast for Portland on Sunday afternoon is overcast
with a 20% chance of rain.  We may see the sky get anomalously
dark above the clouds to the west, but we might not be able to
see the actual occultation.

If it is also overcast over Fujiyama, then I guess we'll just
have to get out the big rocket engines, move the moon, and
schedule a redo next month.   The moon's orbit ought to be
confined to the ecliptic anyway, more eclipses and easier
calculations that way.  Two syzygies a month, or bust!

Keith

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From joshua at keroes.com  Sat May 19 01:13:29 2012
From: joshua at keroes.com (Joshua Keroes)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 01:13:29 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Paddy's at 6pm on Sunday
In-Reply-To: <20120519004729.83248.qmail@mikenpdx.com>
References: <20120519004729.83248.qmail@mikenpdx.com>
Message-ID: <CAGPaCZgQNTrTAx2LpkOkQpE-APAJsrw3EdXt0xGvcdEpfO50WA@mail.gmail.com>

just went to the Oregon City place. Absolutely awesome pub.

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:47 PM, <miken at mikenpdx.com> wrote:

> Maybe someone can bring in an Abbey Road CD so that we can listen to "Here
> Comes the Sun" to get the Gods to keep the clouds from getting in the way
> too much.
>
> - Mike
>
> <br><br><br>------- Original Message -------
> On 5/18/2012  10:44 PM brian d foy wrote:<br>> Sadly, the current weather
> report is 90% cloud coverage, and 90% rain,
> <br>> at least according to http://weathercrack.com/.
> <br>
> <br>If we can't see the sun before we can't see the sun, I'll just be at
> Paddy's.
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>-- <br>brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com>
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From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Sun May 20 18:09:40 2012
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 18:09:40 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Paddy's at 6pm on Sunday
In-Reply-To: <CAPk17=6S8q+kF4LYZ3mkUDyoKYaW_tugsoNgq=7ZOWEpv1r81g@mail.gmail.com>
	(brian d. foy's message of "Fri, 18 May 2012 17:44:53 -0500")
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>>>>> "brian" == brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com> writes:

brian> If we can't see the sun before we can't see the sun, I'll just be
brian> at Paddy's.

I'm already at Paddy's holding down the front corner booths.  I don't
see anyone else here that I recognize.  But I'm hopeful. :)

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From andrew.clapp at gmail.com  Tue May 22 14:11:58 2012
From: andrew.clapp at gmail.com (Andrew Clapp)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 14:11:58 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Job opening
In-Reply-To: <CAO1JzjMxkqvmS-5t1LfrjPs7UtYt2ChyWX-K+yA7kRHft2GpRQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.11031.1327523895.2448.pdx-pm-list@pm.org>
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Hello Clay,

Did you ever fill this position?

-ASC

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Clay Fouts <goatlove at khephera.net> wrote:
> Hi, Mongers.
>
> I'm looking to hire a Perl developer for our "Open Source Integrated Library
> Systems" team at LibLime/PTFS. Check out the job description?for a sketch of
> what's involved and our website and Github?repo for further context. We have
> several projects we work on, all web apps. Our two primary products are
> LibLime Koha and LibLime Academic Koha. Both are the catalogue/circulation
> management systems for libraries.
>
> Please ignore standard HR job listing quirks, especially the "Core Java" in
> the title. This work does not in any way involve Java. There is also no need
> to move to Maryland or anywhere outside of where you currently live.
>
> Feel welcome to ping me with questions and to forward this on to others you
> think may be interested.
>
> Cheers,
> Clay
>
> 503-752-5156
>
>
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From enobacon at gmail.com  Thu May 24 21:42:48 2012
From: enobacon at gmail.com (Eric Wilhelm)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 21:42:48 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] June meeting?
Message-ID: <201205242142.48683.enobacon@gmail.com>

Hi all,

The June meeting is scheduled for three weeks hence.

Nobody has volunteered a presentation.

Does anyone have a suggestion?

Thanks,
Eric
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From enobacon at gmail.com  Sun May 27 23:55:06 2012
From: enobacon at gmail.com (Eric Wilhelm)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 23:55:06 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Fwd: [pm_groups] yapc::na arrival dinner
Message-ID: <201205272355.06805.enobacon@gmail.com>


----------  Forwarded Message:  ----------

Subject: [pm_groups] yapc::na arrival dinner
Date: Sunday 27 May 2012
From: Uri Guttman 

hi pm leaders,

please forward this to your local pm if you know of any of your members 
who are going to yapc::na in madison WI. it is sold out but we need to 
get some information to many of the attendees.

thanx,

uri


hi to all yapc::na attendees,

if you haven't signed up to the yapc mailing list, please do so. it is 
the primary area to interact with other yapc attendees (world wide). you 
can discuss events, best local beers, sharing rides/rooms, rental cars, 
places to eat, hackathon projects, games to play etc. you can sign up on 
this page:

     http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc

one of the major social events of yapc::na has been the arrival dinner. 
it will be on tuesday, june 11 from 7-10 pm at moe's grill and tavern. 
if you are planning to attend please signup on this wiki page. we need a 
quality head count for them to arrange for enough food. we are getting 
drink deals (1/2 price on margaritas so far and something for beer is in 
the works) so read that page also for updates. if you are on a strict 
budget because you are a student or underemployed, we will have several 
scholarships. contact me off list if you want one of them.

     http://act.yapcna.org/2012/wiki?node=Arrival%20Dinner

hope to see you at yapc::na and the arrival dinner!

thanx,

uri
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From enobacon at gmail.com  Tue May 29 23:58:06 2012
From: enobacon at gmail.com (Eric Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 23:58:06 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] June meeting on June 6th?
In-Reply-To: <CAHJtQJ5Mzoszftp_7vdO4a2bO62UVCxVopmNW-EKs-wGjnpgrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201205242142.48683.enobacon@gmail.com>
	<CAHJtQJ5Mzoszftp_7vdO4a2bO62UVCxVopmNW-EKs-wGjnpgrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201205292358.07012.enobacon@gmail.com>

# from Ingy dot Net on Friday 25 May 2012:

>June pdxpm seems to conflict with yapc::na.

This is a good point.  Let's not do that then.

>I would be glad to give a talk about Perl, Clouds and Stackato but it
>would need to be a week early. June 6 or 7.

The 7th wouldn't work for me, but I checked with Free Geek and we would 
be able to have our choice of rooms on the 6th.

Does 6:53 on the 6th sound good?

Thanks,
Eric
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From ben.hengst at gmail.com  Wed May 30 10:06:33 2012
From: ben.hengst at gmail.com (benh)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:06:33 -0700
Subject: [Pdx-pm] June meeting on June 6th?
In-Reply-To: <201205292358.07012.enobacon@gmail.com>
References: <201205242142.48683.enobacon@gmail.com>
	<CAHJtQJ5Mzoszftp_7vdO4a2bO62UVCxVopmNW-EKs-wGjnpgrQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<201205292358.07012.enobacon@gmail.com>
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Works for me.

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Eric Wilhelm <enobacon at gmail.com> wrote:
> # from Ingy dot Net on Friday 25 May 2012:
>
>>June pdxpm seems to conflict with yapc::na.
>
> This is a good point. ?Let's not do that then.
>
>>I would be glad to give a talk about Perl, Clouds and Stackato but it
>>would need to be a week early. June 6 or 7.
>
> The 7th wouldn't work for me, but I checked with Free Geek and we would
> be able to have our choice of rooms on the 6th.
>
> Does 6:53 on the 6th sound good?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
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