From kellert at ohsu.edu Mon Feb 3 16:06:58 2003 From: kellert at ohsu.edu (Thomas Keller) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Matt Wickline Message-ID: Sorry for using the list to contact a list member. Matt - your return address is coming through garbled somehow: matthew wickline This address doesn't work. Your advice was excellent, IO::Scalar worked perfectly for my application as you suggested. Thanks, Tom K. Thomas J. Keller, Ph.D. Oregon Health & Science University MMI Research Core Facility 3181 SW Sam Jackson Park Rd. Portland, OR, USA, 97239 http://www.ohsu.edu/core -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/pdx-pm-list/attachments/20030204/42e17a2d/attachment.htm From jkeroes at eli.net Wed Feb 5 18:51:36 2003 From: jkeroes at eli.net (Joshua Keroes) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Lightning Talks Meeting Message-ID: <20030206005136.GR940@eli.net> The next meeting is less than a week away. If you've been thinking about giving a Lightning Talk, now is the time to well, procrastinate slightly less. :-) Seriously, let me know so I can plan for it. If you want to talk: + Whiteboard will be provided. + My laptop will be too. If you want to use it, bring a CD or floppy with your presentation in HTML. - Probably no network. ? We don't have a projector. If you can borrow one for the night, please talk to me. We also don't have a backdrop to project onto, although a white sheet will do in a pinch. Again, talk to me. We're transitioning the Portland Perl Mongers' website around in DNS-land so the usual website is temporarily out of order. Randall is serving it at his website: Portland Perl Mongers Lightning Talks Meeting http://sonofhans.net/pdxpm/ -Joshua From al at shadowed.net Wed Feb 5 19:52:42 2003 From: al at shadowed.net (Allison Randal) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Lightning Talks Meeting In-Reply-To: <20030206005136.GR940@eli.net> References: <20030206005136.GR940@eli.net> Message-ID: <20030206015242.GA5822@shadowed.net> Joshua wrote: > We're transitioning the Portland Perl Mongers' website around in DNS-land so > the usual website is temporarily out of order. > > Randall is serving it at his website: > > Portland Perl Mongers Lightning Talks Meeting > http://sonofhans.net/pdxpm/ Kudos to whoever did the logo. Can we get a T-shirt of that? Allison From jkeroes at eli.net Wed Feb 5 20:32:48 2003 From: jkeroes at eli.net (Joshua Keroes) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Lightning Talks Meeting In-Reply-To: <20030206015242.GA5822@shadowed.net> References: <20030206005136.GR940@eli.net> <20030206015242.GA5822@shadowed.net> Message-ID: <20030206023248.GA28698@eli.net> On (Wed, Feb 05 19:52), Allison Randal wrote: > > http://sonofhans.net/pdxpm/ > > Kudos to whoever did the logo. Can we get a T-shirt of that? I've sent out two price quote requests. From the looks of it, if we can't clear 24, we may have to use Kinkos. More when I know more. -J From rootbeer at redcat.com Wed Feb 5 21:25:39 2003 From: rootbeer at redcat.com (Tom Phoenix) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Lightning Talks Meeting In-Reply-To: <20030206023248.GA28698@eli.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Joshua Keroes wrote: > > Kudos to whoever did the logo. Can we get a T-shirt of that? > > I've sent out two price quote requests. From the looks of it, if we can't > clear 24, we may have to use Kinkos. More when I know more. It would be cool to have all of us locals wearing that shirt during one day at OSCON, or maybe during one evening event. I'm thinking here of the Stonehenge party, which (I think) is open to the local pdx.pm folks even if they're not going to OSCON. --Tom From merlyn at stonehenge.com Wed Feb 5 21:52:03 2003 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Lightning Talks Meeting In-Reply-To: <20030206023248.GA28698@eli.net> References: <20030206005136.GR940@eli.net> <20030206015242.GA5822@shadowed.net> <20030206023248.GA28698@eli.net> Message-ID: <86isvy9icc.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Joshua" == Joshua Keroes writes: Joshua> On (Wed, Feb 05 19:52), Allison Randal wrote: >> > http://sonofhans.net/pdxpm/ >> >> Kudos to whoever did the logo. Can we get a T-shirt of that? Joshua> I've sent out two price quote requests. From the looks of it, if we can't Joshua> clear 24, we may have to use Kinkos. More when I know more. The vendor that has done my shirts for the past three years is very friendly to me... Joshua, let's talk offlist. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From dstillwa at xprt.net Wed Feb 5 22:26:42 2003 From: dstillwa at xprt.net (Daniel C. Stillwaggon) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Lightning Talks Meeting In-Reply-To: <20030206023248.GA28698@eli.net> Message-ID: <3190F48F-398B-11D7-9139-00039359AFB8@xprt.net> On Wednesday, Feb 5, 2003, at 18:32 US/Pacific, Joshua Keroes wrote: > I've sent out two price quote requests. From the looks of it, if we > can't > clear 24, we may have to use Kinkos. More when I know more. I've just joined the list, so I may be behind on things, but is the plan still in motion for that ?ber cool "naked fruit" logo that was circulated a bit ago? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel C. Stillwaggon From perl at sonofhans.net Thu Feb 6 01:26:35 2003 From: perl at sonofhans.net (Randall) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: logo (was [Pdx-pm] Lightning Talks Meeting) In-Reply-To: <20030206015242.GA5822@shadowed.net> Message-ID: quoth Allison: > Kudos to whoever did the logo. Can we get a T-shirt of that? thanks :) sounds like the beginnings are well underway. i only created a low-res version, but i can make a larger one. i'll wait for a "go" from the t-shirt general contractor team. r From dora.raymaker at xo.com Thu Feb 6 13:17:00 2003 From: dora.raymaker at xo.com (Raymaker, Dora) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] FW: [pdxpm-study] how do you fire a machine gun in the dark? - ne xt meeting tonight! Message-ID: <07CB76E4DED40047AC6E15F00D3367DBADFC57@utsaltex801.internal.nextlink.net> -----Original Message----- From: LadyD [mailto:Lady_D@attbi.com] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:39 AM To: pdxpm-study@patch.com Subject: [pdxpm-study] how do you fire a machine gun in the dark? - next meeting tonight! Do you want to know how to fire a machine gun in the dark? Do you think you have a better way than that detailed by Andrew Hunt and David Thomas? Come tell us about it! Next Pragmatic Programmers meeting will be heavy artillery... um, no, I mean: Tracer Bullets - Code that Glows in the Dark! When: Thursday 6 February 6:30pm Where: 707 SW Washington St How: Tell security you're there for the pragmatic programmers meeting and they'll let you in Any questions, email dora.raymaker@xo.com or lady_d@attbi.com. Feel free to distribute this to any other local groups you think might be interested. See you soon! -D. **************************************************************** The only war that matters is the war against the imagination --Diane DiPrima, "Rant" _______________________________________________ pdxpm-study mailing list pdxpm-study@patch.com http://mail.patch.com/mailman/listinfo/pdxpm-study From jkeroes at eli.net Mon Feb 10 13:38:43 2003 From: jkeroes at eli.net (Joshua Keroes) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Lightning Talks Meeting Message-ID: <20030210193843.GV11966@eli.net> The next meeting is right around the corner - it's this Wednesday! The website move is complete. Christian had the bright idea of adding a host alias for pdx.pm.org, which is what a number of us think of anyway. With that change, you'll always be able to access the Portland Perl Monger website at either address: http://pdx.pm.org/ http://portland.pm.org/ All the meeting details are there: who, what, where, when... not the why though. If you need a why, just show up to the meeting and a dozen lecturers will tell you. -Joshua PS On the offchance that the DNS hasn't propagated to your site yet and you see the Ruby lecture on the webpage, use this alternate URL instead: http://sonofhans.net/pdxpm/ . PPS If you've been thinking about giving a lightning talk but haven't gotten off your lazy butt, now is the time! We still have a few slots open and a whole day to spare. :-D From jkeroes at eli.net Wed Feb 12 13:43:37 2003 From: jkeroes at eli.net (Joshua Keroes) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Fwd: O'Reilly UG Program-OSCON Proposal deadline Feb. 15 Message-ID: <20030212194337.GX11966@eli.net> On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:27:04 -0800 Marsee Henon wrote: > > OSCON Call for Participation -- Programmers, developers, strategists, > and technical staff are invited to submit proposals (deadline is February 15) > to lead tutorials and conference sessions at the sixth annual O'Reilly > Open Source Convention. The theme of this year's conference is > Embracing and Extending Proprietary Software. > > http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2003/create/e_sess From jkeroes at eli.net Wed Feb 12 15:57:50 2003 From: jkeroes at eli.net (Joshua Keroes) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Reminder: Lightning Talks meeting *tonight* Message-ID: <20030212215750.GA11966@eli.net> That's right - it's tonight. http://pdx.pm.org/ for all the info you can eat. -Joshua From agupta at pdx.edu Thu Feb 13 12:53:30 2003 From: agupta at pdx.edu (agupta@pdx.edu) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] PM Survey Message-ID: <1045162410.3e4be9aa8f044@webmail.pdx.edu> Hello, The chapter can help in conducting the research by posting this message to the members. Thanks in advance for your help. We have prepared a survey to conduct an exploratory research in the area of multi-project management scenario to discover some of the factors influencing multi-project management in organizations. The survey will take approximately 25 minutes to finish. This survey is undertaken towards the completion of MS in Engineering Management at Portland State University department of Engineering and Technology Management. This is only a one time request for the help of multi-project managers to complete this survey. The results of this study and this survey, in specific, may help organizations analyze the multi-project management effort in their respective organizations and also add/ update the existing process in order to be more effective. All of the responses will be kept confidential and used only towards the research analysis and research purposes. The participants will have the option to receive a copy of the research analysis electronically. For the purpose of this study, we define multi-project manager as a person managing several projects at a time. If you are interested in participating in this survey, please send your contact information (preferably email) to receive the survey document. Thanks in advance for participating. Regards, -Ashish agupta@pdx.edu From MichaelRunningWolf at att.net Thu Feb 13 20:38:44 2003 From: MichaelRunningWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] SPUG meeting Tuesday, Feb 18 Message-ID: Last night, there was a question regarding SPUG's next meeting. Our meetings are the 3rd Tuesday of the month. We get together for dinner before the meeting and go out for drinks afterwards. You can always find the information here. http://www.seattleperl.org/ And all Perl Monger information here: http://www.pm.org/ Our February meeting is next Tuesday. Here's the particulars. February Meeting; Tuesday, 2/18/03: "Beginner's Night" Formatting Documents with POD by Geoff Grosenbach Geoff will talk about Perl's own documentation system called POD (for Plain Old Documentation). Topics will include: Basic POD tags and syntax Making pod2html look good with stylesheets Targeting multiple output formats Syntax/parser gotchas A brief look at the code that parses POD (i.e. writing your own translator for a new or customized output format) ================================================================ Learning about Perl by Jeremy Mates Jeremy will not talk about Perl itself, but rather about stuff that's about Perl. Topics will include finding documentation and help maintaining and upgrading perl various coding practices tips About the Speaker: Jeremy Mates is a systems administrator for the department of Genome Sciences at the University of Washington. Primary responsibilities include developing and supporting the backups, network, mail, printing, and web services on Mac OS and UNIX systems in the department. -- Michael R. Wolf All mammals learn by playing! MichaelRunningWolf@att.net From Martin.Schneider at tntsoftware.com Fri Feb 14 12:46:08 2003 From: Martin.Schneider at tntsoftware.com (Martin Schneider) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] BEN -> TieRegistry Message-ID: Ben, Thank you for your lightning talk Wednesday. I've been trying to work with TieRegistry, but it's been frustrating. Do you have time for a few questions? If most of the list is not interested in TieRegistry, we could correspond directly. -- Thank you, Martin Schneider From jkeroes at eli.net Fri Feb 14 14:35:04 2003 From: jkeroes at eli.net (Joshua Keroes) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] LT Paper Call Message-ID: <20030214203504.GJ14623@eli.net> This message is addressed to speakers from the last meeting: Please send me the notes to your lecture in plaintext or HTML. We'd like to save them for posterity. Thanks, J From tex at off.org Fri Feb 14 14:58:48 2003 From: tex at off.org (Austin Schutz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] LT Paper Call In-Reply-To: <20030214203504.GJ14623@eli.net>; from jkeroes@eli.net on Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 12:35:04PM -0800 References: <20030214203504.GJ14623@eli.net> Message-ID: <20030214125848.L25455@gblx.net> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 12:35:04PM -0800, Joshua Keroes wrote: > This message is addressed to speakers from the last meeting: > > Please send me the notes to your lecture in plaintext or HTML. We'd > like to save them for posterity. > Also for us lame-os that couldn't make it. Austin From b.hale at attbi.com Sat Feb 15 15:48:05 2003 From: b.hale at attbi.com (Barbara Hale) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] PDX PM meeting ideas.. Message-ID: I know Joshua was looking for meeting topics for the next meeting. Maybe something like what SPUG is doing (Beginner's night) ... or would SPUG would be willing to do a "road show" and just do the same presentations down here? Though from what I can tell, the group here, with a few exceptions, may be too advanced for that type of topics. A future beginner's night combined with Lightening-style talks might be of more interest to everyone: "The one thing that I wished someone had told me when I was learning Perl that I didn't learn until 3 years later". Just kicking up a few ideas (as well as a little dust), Barbara Hale From schwern at pobox.com Sat Feb 15 17:49:13 2003 From: schwern at pobox.com (schwern@pobox.com) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Fwd: [ziggy@panix.com: Looking for Windows users] Message-ID: <20030215154913.A13962@ttul.org> ----- Forwarded message from Adam Turoff ----- From: Adam Turoff Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:54:54 -0500 To: ny@lists.pm.org Subject: Looking for Windows users Delivered-To: schwern@pobox.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Precedence: bulk Hi, Some of you may have heard that brian d foy has been called up for reserve duty for the next few months. I'm going to be looking after The Perl Journal while he is away. I'm looking for someone who is interested in reviewing ActiveState's latest product for ASP/.NET users, PerlASPX 1.0. If you're interested in evaluating this package and writing a review for TPR, please contact me privately. Thanks, Z. **Majordomo list services provided by PANIX ** **To Unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe ny" to majordomo@lists.pm.org** ----- End forwarded message ----- -- From jkeroes at eli.net Mon Feb 17 15:38:04 2003 From: jkeroes at eli.net (Joshua Keroes) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] PDX PM meeting ideas.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030217213804.GH11240@eli.net> On (Sat, Feb 15 13:48), Barbara Hale wrote: > I know Joshua was looking for meeting topics for the next meeting. Maybe > something like what SPUG is doing (Beginner's night) ... or would SPUG would > be willing to do a "road show" and just do the same presentations down here? > Though from what I can tell, the group here, with a few exceptions, may be > too advanced for that type of topics. I really like the idea of offering something to both beginners and intermediate/expert users. What I mean is offering two lectures at every meeting, with one geared at each group. SPUG is certainly welcome to come down any time they'd like but I hardly think we're lacking for speakers to talk about either level. After all, everybody is a beginner at some point. :-) What do you think? -J From MichaelRunningWolf at att.net Mon Feb 17 21:02:06 2003 From: MichaelRunningWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] PDX PM meeting ideas.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "Barbara Hale" writes: > I know Joshua was looking for meeting topics for the next meeting. Maybe > something like what SPUG is doing (Beginner's night) ... or would SPUG would > be willing to do a "road show" and just do the same presentations down here? I'll ask! Symetrically, I'll propose another Lightning Talk, and we can continue the inter-Monger-al deligation visiting road trip!!! > Though from what I can tell, the group here, with a few exceptions, > may be too advanced for that type of topics. A talk doesn't need to be _trivial_ to be a beginner topic. Take for instance the POD talk. I've been programming in Perl for 7 years, and will certainly get something out of it since I don't currently use POD. I understand *what* it is, but haven't found any compellingly creative templates for *how* to use it. The point of beginner night (and this is just my opinion -- I'll be at my first one tomorrow) isn't to bore the heavy users, it's to attract the beginners. They need not be mutually exclusive. Actually, both talks are peripheral to Perl, so they may pick up loose ends that mainstreamers have missed. I'm of the "none of us is as smart as all of us" mindset, and therefore am usually surprised at just what it is that I pick up from a talk. As a Perl instructor, I'm often amazed at the "smile sheets" I get back after a class. Sometimes a student will get the entire value of the class from some tangent off a tangent that I happened to throw in from my experience. Symetrically, I've often gotten the value of a talk from something I wasn't expecting. [Oops... Didn't mean to clamber up on a soap box. Please take preceeding with a grain of salt.] I'll report back how it goes. [...] > Just kicking up a few ideas (as well as a little dust), Ideas are good. Here's a bit back at you -- keep 'em swirling!! :-) That's where the good ideas come from. -- Michael R. Wolf All mammals learn by playing! MichaelRunningWolf@att.net From josh at joshheumann.com Mon Feb 17 21:26:58 2003 From: josh at joshheumann.com (Josh Heumann) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] PDX PM meeting ideas.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35231.69.3.70.8.1045538818.squirrel@www.joshheumann.com> As an intermediate who's programming like mad, a POD talk would be wonderful. I've been trying to get in the habit of using POD for about a year. I know it's just a matter of doing it, but still... Josh _______________________________ the countown has begun http://www.viewfrommywindow.com From m3047 at inwa.net Mon Feb 17 22:36:06 2003 From: m3047 at inwa.net (Fred Morris) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Hi, I'm Fred (PDX Lightning Talk) Message-ID: Hi, I gave the "Modules In The Mist" talk about two modules which I've written for my own amusement and convenience: 1) The DNS paradigm for resolving string constants and format strings (nobody gets that one). 2) Yet another SQL Report Writing Module. Actually, I sent off the working production code (more or less) from the app which I've been writing for my own account which uses it to one attendee... Here's hoping I get some feedback. If I was handing out the awards, first place would go to the gent who maintains Anydata... on the principle of the thing. The river flow stuff was really COOL! And, I think it's simply sublime that my driver got a trophy with a car on top. Michael has big plans, he has his eye on something or three... There will be more on this, I'm sure. Since I attend several UGs in Seattle sporadically, I've got some basis for observing that Apple Powerbooks seem overrepresented at Perl-oriented UG meets. It's a fact! I have no idea what it means. Anyway, now you know how to get in touch with me. Don't send me no steenkin' Bccs, I wrote PerlJacket, and I use it. (HTMLized e-mail can't touch me.) -- Fred Morris m3047@inwa.net From kellert at ohsu.edu Tue Feb 18 12:21:57 2003 From: kellert at ohsu.edu (Thomas Keller) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:17 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] stat question Message-ID: Greetings, I used the "stat" function in a program, and got the following warning: > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > LC_ALL = (unset), > LANG = "en_US" > are supported and installed on your system. > perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). > Could someone elucidate what this is about? Thanks, Tom Thomas J. Keller, Ph.D. Oregon Health & Science University MMI Research Core Facility 3181 SW Sam Jackson Park Rd. Portland, OR, USA, 97239 http://www.ohsu.edu/core -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From m_pm_pdx at wickline.org Tue Feb 18 12:36:56 2003 From: m_pm_pdx at wickline.org (matthew wickline) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:18 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] stat question Message-ID: <3E527D48.4050803@wickline.org> 20030218 kellert@ohsu.edu wrote: > Could someone elucidate what this is about? This should be a good start :) http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.8.0/pod/perllocale.html#LOCALE-PROBLEMS -matt From dora.raymaker at xo.com Wed Feb 19 17:23:18 2003 From: dora.raymaker at xo.com (Raymaker, Dora) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:18 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] PP Meeting Tomorrow - inventing your own language?! Message-ID: <07CB76E4DED40047AC6E15F00D3367DBADFCDC@utsaltex801.internal.nextlink.net> and (ugg, what a drag) how to make (blech) ESTIMATES When: Thursday 20 February 6:30 - 7:30 Where: 707 SW Washington St How: Tell security in the lobby you're there for the pragmatic programmers meeting What: Chapter 2, Sections 12 & 13: "Domain Languages" and "Estimating" Drop me an email if you've questions dora.raymaker@xo.com or lady_d@attbi.com . Feel free to cross-post to interested groups. -D. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/pdx-pm-list/attachments/20030219/b147356d/attachment.htm From jkeroes at eli.net Fri Feb 21 11:03:54 2003 From: jkeroes at eli.net (Joshua Keroes) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:34:18 2004 Subject: [Pdx-pm] O'Reilly Books Message-ID: <20030221170354.GA10614@eli.net> ...still 40% off. Today is the last day to pick them up. We went a little over time due to the lack of participation. Anyway, if you're interested in this second last-minute chance, tell me what you want and we'll get those books ordered. -J