Mail list predators

Curtis Poe cp at
Mon Jul 22 16:37:41 CDT 2002

I am not aware of the email that Jason is receiving, but I can definitely
state that I have received some rather nasty email from people who, for
whatever reason, fail to copy it to the list.  Admittedly it can be
difficult to judge intent from an email (which is why I like emoticons :),
but let's try to be civil to one another.  If we want more people to use
Perl, flaming them is not a good way to go about it.

If anyone else experiences a problem, feel free to forward the offending
email to me and I can try to moderate things.

Curtis Poe
Senior Programmer
ONSITE! Technology, Inc.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Annin-White" <jasona at>
To: "Portland Perl Mongers" <pdx-pm-list at>
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:25 PM
Subject: Mail list predators

> I would just like to comment that not everybody in the list here is a
> perl pro and some of us are more adept at other languages, are making an
> effort to learn perl, but don't necesarily have the luxury of taking
> classes or spending hours reading the manuals.  I am doing OOP in perl,
> I'm not just a jack-ass trying to figure out how to make my webpage
> catalouge MP3s.  I appreciate constructive criticism such as quotes not
> being necesary when a scalar contains a string value (even if it doesn't
> come in a constructive format), however, I've gotten emails that were
> simply disparaging.  The code I provide is a functional equivalent and
> is designed to layout what I am trying to accomplish without revealing
> intellectual property which I do not have the privillege to share.
>  Sometimes it is lacking traps and such, but I am not here to ask about
> those things.
> I don't understand why people who obviouly have the answers to my
> strait-forward questions respond with violence and condescention rather
> than taking an equivalent amount of time to be helpful.  This is not a
> stomping ground for the perl elite, it is a place for people like me to
> get help when they need it.  The people doing this know who they are, as
> a helpful reply is always CC'd to the list while the non-helpful ones
> are not.  If you aren't up to the task of helping others, please don't
> reply to their requests for help.
> My fondness for perl is based largely on the community.  There are times
> I feel this list is failing that community, not because of a lack in
> information, but because of the way competent coders are treated when
> they ask for the benefit of other's experience.
> Jason White


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