From grimoire at sparky.ox.compsoc.net Wed Feb 4 19:54:48 2004 From: grimoire at sparky.ox.compsoc.net (Dave Page) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:08:39 2004 Subject: OxPM: Boing Message-ID: <20040205015447.GD23130@slimfast.technomancer.homelinux.org> Uhm, just to say that I've finally gotten round to resubscribing to this list from a current working e-mail address... I'm reading Perl Template Toolkit at the moment, it's quite fun so far. Dave -- "A man who has nothing in particular to recommend him discusses all sorts of subjects at random as though he knew everything." - Sei Shonagon, "The Pillow Book" IM: grimoire@jabber.earth.li | http://sparky.ox.compsoc.net/~grimoire -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/oxford-pm/attachments/20040205/31f853ea/attachment.bin From davidt at public-domain.org Mon Feb 9 15:36:13 2004 From: davidt at public-domain.org (David Tannenbaum) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:08:39 2004 Subject: OxPM: Volunteers needed to build organizing tools Message-ID: <4027FD4D.6020209@public-domain.org> Hi all, I've just started working with an organization called the Union for the Public Domain that is organizing to preserve the public domain in a broad range of sectors. We are creating tools tools for online organizing, and I was wondering if anyone on this list might be interested in helping? We are building the tools primarily with Perl and MySQL and particularly need people with expertise in those areas. The Union for the Public Domain (UPD) is a non-profit membership organization whose mission is to protect and enhance the public domain in matters concerning intellectual property. UPD has a very broad mission and we plan to work on a whole swathe of issues, from software, to access to textbooks, to webcasting, to essential medicines. There are a lot of groups working on these issues now, but they rarely leverage each other's power in numbers. We are hoping to build some coordination. The other goal is to broaden the circle of activists working on IP, to include the more general public, which is affected by IP law and threats to the public domain, but doesn't really understand either enough to care (yet). We want to make the issues palatable so people understand them, and create a "politics of IP," much like there is now a politics of environmentalism. The board of directors as it stands now includes Richard Stallman, Jamie Love, who runs a group called the Consumer Project on Technology, Robin Gross of IP Justice and Robert Weissman. The group was first started approximately 8 years ago, but has been dormant for nearly as long, and I've been hired part-time to restart it. We need all the help we can get. We have a website (http://www.public-domain.org) and a listserve, but not much else at this point. We want to be as creative as possible in using online tools to mobilize the grassroots. The most pressing projects are: - Setting up a database of members, volunteers, media outlets, allies, that would be accessible via a web interface, and could do things like generate action alerts to members based on their geographical location and other relevant characteristics. We are likely to use Perl and MySQL to do this. - Setting up tools that let people send an e-mail to the relevant "target" (their EU representative; WIPO country delegate, etc). - Setting up a mechanism for accepting donations, whether that means going through a third party or processing them ourself. All of the resulting software, scripts, etc, will be free. If anyone is interested in collaborating on these projects, you can e-mail me off list at updinfo@public-domain.org. I'm based in the UK and would love to meet people in person as well, though e-mail is of course good too. Yours, David -- David Tannenbaum Coordinator Union for the Public Domain davidt@public-domain.org +44 (0)7816 392 758 http://www.public-domain.org From Charles.Curran at ukuug.org Tue Feb 10 04:42:58 2004 From: Charles.Curran at ukuug.org (Charles Curran) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:08:39 2004 Subject: OxPM: UPD [was: Volunteers needed to build organizing tools] In-Reply-To: <4027FD4D.6020209@public-domain.org> References: <4027FD4D.6020209@public-domain.org> Message-ID: At 21:36 +0000 2004-02-09, David Tannenbaum wrote: >I've just started working with an organization called the Union for >the Public Domain that is organizing to preserve the public domain >in a broad range of sectors. ... & on http://www.public-domain.org/ it says >Our mission is to protect and enhance the public domain in matters >concerning intellectual property. UPD is a membership organization, >acting as an independent voice on intellectual property issues. Perhaps you think me sceptical, but I am still unsure what UPD is about. -- --Charles. Don't miss the next UKUUG big event: LISA/Winter Conference & Tutorial on High-Availabilty & Reliability http://www.ukuug.org/events/winter2004/ Bournemouth, 25-26 February 2004. From grimoire at sparky.ox.compsoc.net Tue Feb 17 05:20:18 2004 From: grimoire at sparky.ox.compsoc.net (Dave Page) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:08:39 2004 Subject: OxPM: Benchmarking modules? Message-ID: <20040217112018.GC26713@slimfast.technomancer.homelinux.org> Can somebody recommend me a module or two for benchmarking a CGI script? It's running a lot more slowly than I expected, and I'd like to be able to time how long certain sections of code take to run, and dump this information to a log file somewhere. Dave -- "Indenting is the new black." - Dave Colter, MancGoff, 13/01/2004 IM: grimoire@jabber.earth.li | http://sparky.ox.compsoc.net/~grimoire -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040217121114.GA15534@linuxufo.com> > Ummm, the Benchmark module, maybe? :) > > Not that fine grained, but it may help http://search.cpan.org/~samtregar/Devel-Profiler-0.04/lib/Devel/Profiler.pm Is fine-grained. +Pete From grimoire at sparky.ox.compsoc.net Tue Feb 17 07:39:51 2004 From: grimoire at sparky.ox.compsoc.net (Dave Page) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:08:40 2004 Subject: OxPM: Benchmarking modules? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040217133950.GG26713@slimfast.technomancer.homelinux.org> On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:03:54PM +0000, Steve_Field@seton.com wrote: > Ummm, the Benchmark module, maybe? :) Benchmark::Timer looks like it'll do what I want. Devel::Profiler seems to be far too heavy duty for my needs, but I'll fall back to it if B::T isn't useful to me. Dave -- "A blackened shroud, a hand-me-down gown of rags and silks, a costume fit for one who sits and cries for all tomorrow's parties" - The Velvet Underground IM: grimoire@jabber.earth.li | http://sparky.ox.compsoc.net/~grimoire -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/oxford-pm/attachments/20040217/ec9b6862/attachment.bin From jonnyr9 at r9corporation.fsnet.co.uk Tue Feb 17 11:35:06 2004 From: jonnyr9 at r9corporation.fsnet.co.uk (Jon Rees) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:08:40 2004 Subject: OxPM: Re: Benchmarking modules? References: <20040217112018.GC26713@slimfast.technomancer.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <00ef01c3f57c$62030220$0100a8c0@JONS512MBP4> http://search.cpan.org/~nwclark/perl-5.8.3/lib/Benchmark.pm use Benchmark; $t0 = new Benchmark; # ... your code here ... $t1 = new Benchmark; $td = timediff($t1, $t0); print "the code took:",timestr($td),"\n"; There is a 'fine' timing variant available.... Dr Jonathan D Rees (webmaster) Bioinformatics.NET 9 Mill St Oxford OX2 0AJ United Kingdom Tel. (UK) +44 (0)1865244836 Mob. (UK) +44 (0)7970893371 Web: http://www.bioinformatics.net Email: webmaster@bioinformatics.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Page" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:20 AM Subject: OxPM: Benchmarking modules? From grimoire at sparky.ox.compsoc.net Tue Feb 17 12:04:01 2004 From: grimoire at sparky.ox.compsoc.net (Dave Page) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:08:40 2004 Subject: OxPM: Re: Benchmarking modules? In-Reply-To: <00ef01c3f57c$62030220$0100a8c0@JONS512MBP4> References: <20040217112018.GC26713@slimfast.technomancer.homelinux.org> <00ef01c3f57c$62030220$0100a8c0@JONS512MBP4> Message-ID: <20040217180400.GL26713@slimfast.technomancer.homelinux.org> On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 05:35:06PM -0000, Jon Rees wrote: > http://search.cpan.org/~nwclark/perl-5.8.3/lib/Benchmark.pm > use Benchmark; > $t0 = new Benchmark; > # ... your code here ... > $t1 = new Benchmark; > $td = timediff($t1, $t0); > print "the code took:",timestr($td),"\n"; > There is a 'fine' timing variant available.... Benchmark::Timer is even easier: use Benchmark::Timer my $timer = Benchmark::Timer->new(); $timer->start('Executing function foo()'); foo(); $timer->stop; $timer->start('Executing function bar()'); bar(); $timer->stop; $timer->report; This will dump details of each task and how long it took to STDERR; if you specify a tag more than once, it will give you averages etc. as well. 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