[Ottawa-pm] Dec social

[Mark Mielke]

To risk the wrath and charges of blasphemy:

This is because at its base, Perl is a scripting languages designed for 
systems and reporting tasks. It doesn't scale well to large projects for 
true definitions of large that take into account "teams of 100+ people" 
and "code base of 1 million lines or more".

Personally, I think Perl should stay in the background. It is successful 
here, and it will live on for years or likely decades in this form.

If people happen to be able to write larger projects in it in a way that 
they can support - great.

Personally, I am one of these Java people. Capabilities such as Eclipse, 
Sonar, and Maven are just too great to ignore. Perl does not compare 
(and shouldn't!) in my opinion.

Cheers,
mark


On 12/06/2011 11:11 AM, Allan Fields wrote:
> My take is that the Perl usage continues-on in the background, quietly
> filling requirements.  There are lots of examples where Perl is still
> being used by local companies.  But it doesn't get nearly the
> promotion as Java platform. (*)  That's just the way things have gone.
>
> Advocacy of the practical merits and applications are always
> appreciated because they can demonstrate why organizations should
> invest their time / resources in Perl.  This is not always obvious to
> non-monger types.  (This equally applies to Python and non-Java 3rd
> generation languages.)
>
> Examples that I like (Use cases):
> - Wikis
> - Reporting and accounting scripts (administration)
> - Monitoring (NAGIOS and like)
> - Hosting / VPS - management panels, etc. (allot has moved to PHP however)
> - Certificate management
> - Mailing list and directory software
>
> Virtualization and "cloud" tools: With new tools such as Powershell on
> the Windows side, Perl can be justified due to it's ability to run on
> *any* major platform including inside a management server.  Powershell
> isn't exactly deficient feature-wise and works well with VMware, but
> Perl APIs continue to permit for emerging Cloud applications and you
> aren't tied to Windows, something that VMware had roped itself into
> with VI3 and potential can get around using Java Spring framework for
> their management tools.
>
>
> (BTW, I am looking for Perl work ATM as my current contract is soon
> over.  Please contact me if you know of a position or short term
> contract.)
>
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Allan Fields
> Ottawa, Canada
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Yanick Champoux<champoux at pythian.com>  wrote:
>> On 12/05/11 09:40, Steve Purkis wrote:
>>> I've recently moved back to Ottawa&    am hoping to make the next social
>>> (Dec 20 @ Pub Italia).
>>
>>     We have a social at Pub Italia on the 20th? :-)
>>
>>     You might have read a message from a previous year. But it's a good idea.
>>   Anyone's for it?
>>
>>     Also, Pub Italia is good, but if the peeps who think of coming are more
>> west-endies like me, perhaps we should relocate to Bells Corners' Darcy
>> McGee's?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>   It's nice to see Ottawa still has a thriving Perl community!  Hope to see
>>> you there...
>>
>>     Well, it's less thriving than occasionally twitching, but it is still
>> alive. :-)
>>
>> Welcome back!
>> `/anick
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yanick Champoux, Senior Perl Developer
>> The Pythian Group - love your data
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