[Omaha.pm] perl

Sam Flint harmonicnm7h at gmail.com
Tue Nov 27 12:20:19 PST 2012


That's debatable nick.


On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Nick Wertzberger <wertnick at gmail.com>wrote:

> Cygwin is a decent Linux alternative
> On Nov 26, 2012 8:37 PM, "Jay Hannah" <jay at jays.net> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 26, 2012, at 2:43 PM, "Klinkebiel, David L" <dklinkebiel at unmc.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > I am truly going to finally start learning how to program in perl.
>>
>> Excellent!  :)
>>
>> > I will be using my home laptop to begin the process since I will be
>> using my free time this winter to try and teach myself. I currently have
>> Strawberry perl on that computer and it is functional, however have ran
>> into various articles talking about using Eclipse/EPIC, Active State perl
>> editor to better improve my odds. My plan is to uninstall Strawberry perl
>> and install Active State. Then install Eclipse/EPIC that requires Java to
>> be initially installed to function.
>>
>> I don't use Windows so I don't use Strawberry nor Active State. I don't
>> use Eclipse/EPIC, or any other fancy "rapid development environment." If
>> you do want to use a fancy (fat/heavyweight) editor, you might
>> also/alternatively try these:
>>
>>    http://padre.perlide.org/
>>    http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide
>>
>> I ssh to Linux servers (usually Debian) or develop locally on OS X (Mac)
>> and use the "vim" text editor. On Windows I use Notepad. I'm old school. :)
>>
>> If I were you I'd either boot my laptop as Linux, or buy a cheap PC and
>> install Debian on it. If you don't want to buy a separate PC, you could buy
>> a dedicated "plug computer" with Debian on it:
>>
>>    http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/plugs.html
>>
>> I've never done that, but it looks cool.  :)
>>
>> Some people do use Perl on Windows, but it's not common, especially in
>> bioinformatics.
>>
>> > My problem is that I do not have internet at home unless I tether to my
>> cell phone and I have only limited data. Therefore I want all of the
>> functional software to not require connection to the internet to work.
>>
>> The biggest problem you'll have there is that most Perl things tend to
>> require software from CPAN, which usually lives on the Internet. Once you
>> have all the software you need working offline is easy, but you're likely
>> to hit new requirements as you develop things. You could, I suppose, try to
>> get all your dependencies at work each day before you go home.
>>
>> There are ways for you to take chunks of CPAN home with you on a USB
>> drive, but that requires a lot of non-default monkeying to get working.
>> Even then you kind of need to know what you're going to want.  :)
>>
>> > I do not know if Java has to be linked to a web site to function as I
>> have downloaded supposable stand alone installer file.
>>
>> Once you install Java on your Windows or Debian workstation/server once,
>> you should be fine.
>>
>> > My question, is this the best approach or is there another way. I have
>> been collecting books and pdf files about perl and various example scripts
>> to start reading. Thanks
>>
>> The process of learning Perl should all work fine on Windows. It's when
>> you start using BioPerl or other software packages with requirement trees
>> that things might get dicey. Windows tends to be an after thought or not
>> supported at all in the Perl-adjacent bioinformatics stack.
>>
>> Note: As a guy who always uses Linux (or OS X), my perspective might be
>> skewed / wrong.  :)
>>
>> I hope that helped. I cc'd the Omaha Perl Mongers group in case other
>> people have thoughts / corrections for you.
>>
>> Good luck! I'm happy to help, call me anytime.
>>
>> j
>> 402-598-7782
>>
>>
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