From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Mon Jan  3 11:46:49 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:46:49 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] github:fi - run your own github
Message-ID: <3F2A5FB0-C9D5-4DDF-A698-8360ADCD6CD5@mutationgrid.com>

Ooo...  shiny

   http://fi.github.com/

I'm perfectly happy w/ github.com (except when it's down this morning... boo!), but if you have to have your repo behind the firewall and have $2500/year laying around...   -ponder-  

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782






From dan at linder.org  Tue Jan  4 07:24:15 2011
From: dan at linder.org (Dan Linder)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:24:15 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [odynug] github:fi - run your own github
In-Reply-To: <3F2A5FB0-C9D5-4DDF-A698-8360ADCD6CD5@mutationgrid.com>
References: <3F2A5FB0-C9D5-4DDF-A698-8360ADCD6CD5@mutationgrid.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimPHNSODqCkEfO9S+8k5OiS3F3a7COiSYr7QGC+@mail.gmail.com>

(I've been using Subversion+Apache for about 2.5 years, no experience with
Git nor Github.)

What's the benefit of using "Github.com" over setting up a Git server
yourself in-house?  I assume Git can be served over a Apache/SSL connection
so aside from setting it up and the maintenance duties (and saving
$2500/year)...or is Github aimed more at widely dispersed groups with no
central server site of their own?

Dan

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 13:46, Jay Hannah <jhannah at mutationgrid.com> wrote:

> Ooo...  shiny
>
>   http://fi.github.com/
>
> I'm perfectly happy w/ github.com (except when it's down this morning...
> boo!), but if you have to have your repo behind the firewall and have
> $2500/year laying around...   -ponder-
>
> Jay Hannah
> Software Architect
> jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782
>
>
>
>
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From stephen at exigencecorp.com  Tue Jan  4 08:02:44 2011
From: stephen at exigencecorp.com (Stephen Haberman)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:02:44 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [odynug] github:fi - run your own github
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimPHNSODqCkEfO9S+8k5OiS3F3a7COiSYr7QGC+@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3F2A5FB0-C9D5-4DDF-A698-8360ADCD6CD5@mutationgrid.com>
	<AANLkTimPHNSODqCkEfO9S+8k5OiS3F3a7COiSYr7QGC+@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110104100244.fdd76701.stephen@exigencecorp.com>


> What's the benefit of using "Github.com" over setting up a Git server
> yourself in-house?

I doubt github:fi is meant for just one person with a handful of
projects--most of us are better off just paying for the regular
github.com service.

The fi edition makes more sense to large corporations--think about
Union Pacific, which has a crap load of proprietary projects that could
never live on github.com, but would nonetheless benefit from their
internal developers being able to easily view, checkout, submit patches
across a variety of projects.

$2500/year is likely cheap compared to traditional enterprise SCMs like
Perforce or whatever 90s-era-piece-of-crap UP is using. Forget the name.

- Stephen


From mkolakow at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  4 19:05:58 2011
From: mkolakow at yahoo.com (Michael Kolakowski)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:05:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [odynug] github:fi - run your own github
In-Reply-To: <20110104100244.fdd76701.stephen@exigencecorp.com>
Message-ID: <400040.48540.qm@web121504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

UP has moved from MKS Source Integrity to Subversion, thank you very much.  ;)

Michael



--- On Tue, 1/4/11, Stephen Haberman <stephen at exigencecorp.com> wrote:

> From: Stephen Haberman <stephen at exigencecorp.com>
> Subject: Re: [Omaha.pm] [odynug] github:fi - run your own github
> To: odynug at googlegroups.com
> Cc: "Nebraska USA Perl Mongers of Omaha" <omaha-pm at pm.org>
> Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 10:02 AM
> 
> > What's the benefit of using "Github.com" over setting
> up a Git server
> > yourself in-house?
> 
> I doubt github:fi is meant for just one person with a
> handful of
> projects--most of us are better off just paying for the
> regular
> github.com service.
> 
> The fi edition makes more sense to large
> corporations--think about
> Union Pacific, which has a crap load of proprietary
> projects that could
> never live on github.com, but would nonetheless benefit
> from their
> internal developers being able to easily view, checkout,
> submit patches
> across a variety of projects.
> 
> $2500/year is likely cheap compared to traditional
> enterprise SCMs like
> Perforce or whatever 90s-era-piece-of-crap UP is using.
> Forget the name.
> 
> - Stephen
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha-pm mailing list
> Omaha-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha-pm
> 


      

From mkolakow at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  4 19:05:58 2011
From: mkolakow at yahoo.com (Michael Kolakowski)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:05:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [odynug] github:fi - run your own github
In-Reply-To: <20110104100244.fdd76701.stephen@exigencecorp.com>
Message-ID: <400040.48540.qm@web121504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

UP has moved from MKS Source Integrity to Subversion, thank you very much.  ;)

Michael



--- On Tue, 1/4/11, Stephen Haberman <stephen at exigencecorp.com> wrote:

> From: Stephen Haberman <stephen at exigencecorp.com>
> Subject: Re: [Omaha.pm] [odynug] github:fi - run your own github
> To: odynug at googlegroups.com
> Cc: "Nebraska USA Perl Mongers of Omaha" <omaha-pm at pm.org>
> Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 10:02 AM
> 
> > What's the benefit of using "Github.com" over setting
> up a Git server
> > yourself in-house?
> 
> I doubt github:fi is meant for just one person with a
> handful of
> projects--most of us are better off just paying for the
> regular
> github.com service.
> 
> The fi edition makes more sense to large
> corporations--think about
> Union Pacific, which has a crap load of proprietary
> projects that could
> never live on github.com, but would nonetheless benefit
> from their
> internal developers being able to easily view, checkout,
> submit patches
> across a variety of projects.
> 
> $2500/year is likely cheap compared to traditional
> enterprise SCMs like
> Perforce or whatever 90s-era-piece-of-crap UP is using.
> Forget the name.
> 
> - Stephen
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha-pm mailing list
> Omaha-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha-pm
> 


      

From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Wed Jan  5 10:59:41 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:59:41 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Part time Catalyst development
Message-ID: <C42D3A99-850F-45F5-9AA7-181CF26446C9@mutationgrid.com>

Anyone local interested in part time Catalyst development? I doubt I can pay you by the hour to work on it, but I've got all the fundamentals built already and there's a budget and a goal. Unfortunately it looks like I've grown too busy to finish it all myself. If you're interested we may be able to work something out.

Thanks,

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782






From stephen at exigencecorp.com  Wed Jan  5 13:16:18 2011
From: stephen at exigencecorp.com (Stephen Haberman)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:16:18 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [odynug] github:fi - run your own github
In-Reply-To: <400040.48540.qm@web121504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <20110104100244.fdd76701.stephen@exigencecorp.com>
	<400040.48540.qm@web121504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110105151618.cade3d9e.stephen@exigencecorp.com>


> UP has moved from MKS Source Integrity to Subversion, thank you very much.  ;)

Hehe, sweet! That's good to hear.

...do they still run always-on, scan-every-file-as-its-loaded
anti-virus software on dev machines? Compilers just love that.

- Stephen


From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Mon Jan 10 09:48:27 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:48:27 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Meeting tomorrow, 7pm
Message-ID: <55795DEE-2486-48F1-A55E-56815FFE9B07@mutationgrid.com>

Happy 2011!

Anyone excited about anything they're working on?

Willing to talk about it for 5 or more minutes?

Come on down!

   http://odlug.org/
   Tuesday January 11 2010, 7pm
   UNO's Peter Kiewit Institute (PKI) 
   1110 South 67th Street
   Room PKI 276

And/or we could crash the OMG 2 doors down from our room:
   http://omahamakergroup.org

Ad-hoc "what Jay has been working on lately" presentation would probably be composed of a discussion of git --bare archives, hooks, and a debate about whether or not "staging" and "production" should live on the same server.   :)    I'll also bring the challenge/quiz books Blaine bequeathed us in case we want to do one of those.

See you there!

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782





From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Mon Jan 10 15:44:34 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:44:34 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] shiny!
References: <201101080512.p085C6DQ004964@li109-243.members.linode.com>
Message-ID: <4CD63A39-5D46-4AD1-8FD3-DDA7EC1357AF@mutationgrid.com>

$ time make test
...
t/porting/maintainers..........................................ok
t/porting/manifest.............................................ok
t/porting/podcheck.............................................ok
t/porting/test_bootstrap.......................................ok
All tests successful.
u=3.21  s=1.51  cu=251.93  cs=34.03  scripts=1693  tests=349868

real	8m48.745s
user	4m18.533s
sys	0m37.122s


Mmm... 5.12.2 installed on my new 27" iMac.   -drool-    :)

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782



From mario at ruby-im.net  Mon Jan 10 16:13:06 2011
From: mario at ruby-im.net (Mario Steele)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:13:06 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] shiny!
In-Reply-To: <4CD63A39-5D46-4AD1-8FD3-DDA7EC1357AF@mutationgrid.com>
References: <201101080512.p085C6DQ004964@li109-243.members.linode.com>
	<4CD63A39-5D46-4AD1-8FD3-DDA7EC1357AF@mutationgrid.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinPs41gc_EmGzE8dHGtdFdeSbS4wY7Z5bujHW2v@mail.gmail.com>

You suck, I want a iMac, or even a Mac Mini. :P

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Jay Hannah <jhannah at mutationgrid.com>wrote:

> $ time make test
> ...
> t/porting/maintainers..........................................ok
> t/porting/manifest.............................................ok
> t/porting/podcheck.............................................ok
> t/porting/test_bootstrap.......................................ok
> All tests successful.
> u=3.21  s=1.51  cu=251.93  cs=34.03  scripts=1693  tests=349868
>
> real    8m48.745s
> user    4m18.533s
> sys     0m37.122s
>
>
> Mmm... 5.12.2 installed on my new 27" iMac.   -drool-    :)
>
> Jay Hannah
> Software Architect
> jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha-pm mailing list
> Omaha-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha-pm
>



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From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Mon Jan 10 16:26:53 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:26:53 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] shiny!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinPs41gc_EmGzE8dHGtdFdeSbS4wY7Z5bujHW2v@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201101080512.p085C6DQ004964@li109-243.members.linode.com>
	<4CD63A39-5D46-4AD1-8FD3-DDA7EC1357AF@mutationgrid.com>
	<AANLkTinPs41gc_EmGzE8dHGtdFdeSbS4wY7Z5bujHW2v@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <04230618-ADEC-405C-82A0-42C17795C7F2@mutationgrid.com>

On Jan 10, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Mario Steele wrote:
> You suck, I want a iMac, or even a Mac Mini. :P

mwooooahhahahhahahhaha!!    :)

Too bad Mutation Grid makes me work 'till midnight all the time. Slave drivers.  -sigh-

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782






From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Mon Jan 10 17:53:22 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:53:22 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Catalyst + Template Toolkit - custom filters
Message-ID: <851E9631-8CF8-4BAF-B9C3-78534ECA79AA@mutationgrid.com>

I didn't know this was quite this easy.

In Controller/View/TT.pm you can add arbitrary filters:

   __PACKAGE__->config(
      FILTERS => {
         commify  => \&commify,

Define your sub:

   # Perl Cookbook recipe 2.17
   sub commify {
      return 'N/A' unless defined $_[0] and length $_[0];
      my $text = reverse $_[0];
      $text =~ s/(\d\d\d)(?=\d)(?!\d*\.)/$1,/g;
      return scalar reverse $text;
   }

And then your templates can use the new filter:

   [% num_views | commify %]  

"1234" becomes "1,234". Etc. Neat, huh?

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782






From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Tue Jan 11 09:44:04 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:44:04 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Meeting tonight, 7pm
In-Reply-To: <55795DEE-2486-48F1-A55E-56815FFE9B07@mutationgrid.com>
References: <55795DEE-2486-48F1-A55E-56815FFE9B07@mutationgrid.com>
Message-ID: <BB0B173B-615B-4D41-A800-9B1DFB2B115D@mutationgrid.com>

On Jan 10, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Jay Hannah wrote:
> Happy 2011!
> 
> Anyone excited about anything they're working on?

-crickets-    (snowbound crickets  -grin-)

I hereby declare tonight "crashing the Omaha Maker Group" night. (Again.) It's only 2 doors down from our regularly scheduled meeting:

   January 11th, 2011 at 7pm 
   Peter Kiewit Institute (1110 s 67th st) 
   Room 279

Nick et. al.:  How many folks have been showing up recently? (How much pizza should I bring?)

(How do I not have Nick's phone number?  -ponder-)

See you there.  :)

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782






From evaddnomaid at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 17:11:00 2011
From: evaddnomaid at gmail.com (Dave Burchell)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:11:00 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] shiny!
In-Reply-To: <4CD63A39-5D46-4AD1-8FD3-DDA7EC1357AF@mutationgrid.com>
References: <201101080512.p085C6DQ004964@li109-243.members.linode.com>
	<4CD63A39-5D46-4AD1-8FD3-DDA7EC1357AF@mutationgrid.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinqbtYQDmnkiSSciWPj9k__qioHVrwDt=-iS6cb@mail.gmail.com>

Macbook Air, 11 inch base model:

t/porting/maintainers..........................................ok
t/porting/manifest.............................................ok
t/porting/podcheck.............................................ok
t/porting/test_bootstrap.......................................ok
All tests successful.
u=6.40  s=3.82  cu=521.23  cs=85.58  scripts=1693  tests=349815

real    21m43.452s
user    15m19.479s
sys    2m10.285s


On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Jay Hannah <jhannah at mutationgrid.com>wrote:

> $ time make test
> ...
> t/porting/maintainers..........................................ok
> t/porting/manifest.............................................ok
> t/porting/podcheck.............................................ok
> t/porting/test_bootstrap.......................................ok
> All tests successful.
> u=3.21  s=1.51  cu=251.93  cs=34.03  scripts=1693  tests=349868
>
> real    8m48.745s
> user    4m18.533s
> sys     0m37.122s
>
>
> Mmm... 5.12.2 installed on my new 27" iMac.   -drool-    :)
>
> Jay Hannah
> Software Architect
> jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha-pm mailing list
> Omaha-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha-pm
>



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From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Tue Jan 11 17:46:31 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:46:31 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] shiny!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinqbtYQDmnkiSSciWPj9k__qioHVrwDt=-iS6cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201101080512.p085C6DQ004964@li109-243.members.linode.com>
	<4CD63A39-5D46-4AD1-8FD3-DDA7EC1357AF@mutationgrid.com>
	<AANLkTinqbtYQDmnkiSSciWPj9k__qioHVrwDt=-iS6cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <30CF7090-1F5F-4326-8F09-9A89993E3419@mutationgrid.com>

On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Dave Burchell wrote:
> Macbook Air, 11 inch base model:
> u=6.40  s=3.82  cu=521.23  cs=85.58  scripts=1693  tests=349815
> real    21m43.452s

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Jay Hannah <jhannah at mutationgrid.com> wrote:
> u=3.21  s=1.51  cu=251.93  cs=34.03  scripts=1693  tests=349868
> real    8m48.745s

Woot! Apparently I have some horsepower.   :)

I wonder what 53 tests I ran that you didn't run? Curious. I would have thought that OS X 10.6.6 would be identical on every chunk of hardware?

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782






From evaddnomaid at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 17:50:20 2011
From: evaddnomaid at gmail.com (Dave Burchell)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:50:20 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] shiny!
In-Reply-To: <30CF7090-1F5F-4326-8F09-9A89993E3419@mutationgrid.com>
References: <201101080512.p085C6DQ004964@li109-243.members.linode.com>
	<4CD63A39-5D46-4AD1-8FD3-DDA7EC1357AF@mutationgrid.com>
	<AANLkTinqbtYQDmnkiSSciWPj9k__qioHVrwDt=-iS6cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<30CF7090-1F5F-4326-8F09-9A89993E3419@mutationgrid.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTind_k5NuzymbXABf==LZOCPfzXkRJyhFLtQV5n2@mail.gmail.com>

The MBA has a rep as being underpowered, so I thought I'd see by just how
much.  (Not that I plan to build a lot of stuff on it.)

I can only assume that some tests were "skipped", but couldn't tell you
which.  Maybe stuff for unmet dependencies?  This box is pretty sparse.

- djb

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Jay Hannah <jhannah at mutationgrid.com>wrote:

> On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Dave Burchell wrote:
> > Macbook Air, 11 inch base model:
> > u=6.40  s=3.82  cu=521.23  cs=85.58  scripts=1693  tests=349815
> > real    21m43.452s
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Jay Hannah <jhannah at mutationgrid.com>
> wrote:
> > u=3.21  s=1.51  cu=251.93  cs=34.03  scripts=1693  tests=349868
> > real    8m48.745s
>
> Woot! Apparently I have some horsepower.   :)
>
> I wonder what 53 tests I ran that you didn't run? Curious. I would have
> thought that OS X 10.6.6 would be identical on every chunk of hardware?
>
> Jay Hannah
> Software Architect
> jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Tue Jan 11 18:41:48 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:41:48 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Another telecommute job
References: <AANLkTinOcvNr6oh-A21WcFFxC=u+Kk2RVav8jykvU8oD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <967A9FA3-EEF7-4459-9816-5E3BB3698825@mutationgrid.com>

Seen on the KC Perl Monger list...

On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Paul Millard wrote:
> BTW, our company has a 3 month contract-to-perm possibility right now, all telecommute.  Working in Catalyst and other.  If interested you can contact me, or contact direct - http://jobs.perl.org/job/13444.

:)   Mutation Grid's closest geographical "competitor" (Fort Collins, CO) is hiring. I didn't realize they had a worker out of KC.

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
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From Payne at MattPayne.org  Thu Jan 13 06:32:23 2011
From: Payne at MattPayne.org (Matt Payne)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:32:23 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [odynug] Meeting tomorrow, 7pm
In-Reply-To: <55795DEE-2486-48F1-A55E-56815FFE9B07@mutationgrid.com>
References: <55795DEE-2486-48F1-A55E-56815FFE9B07@mutationgrid.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=92k6xeQix4g+P_k7qPu_910gzya6+a3UQZ2yk@mail.gmail.com>

Jay & The Makers --

Jon sent me the exciting note below.   Free Day begins at 10am Omaha
time today.   Enjoy! --Matt

Hey, if you're interested in DIY electronics (microcontrollers, etc),
SparkFun.com is having their second annual "Free Day" tomorrow
(Thursday, 1/13/2011):

   http://www.sparkfun.com/news/487

Spread the word!

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Jay Hannah <jhannah at mutationgrid.com> wrote:
> Happy 2011!
>
> Anyone excited about anything they're working on?
>
> Willing to talk about it for 5 or more minutes?
>
> Come on down!
>
> ? http://odlug.org/
> ? Tuesday January 11 2010, 7pm
> ? UNO's Peter Kiewit Institute (PKI)
> ? 1110 South 67th Street
> ? Room PKI 276
>
> And/or we could crash the OMG 2 doors down from our room:
> ? http://omahamakergroup.org
>
> Ad-hoc "what Jay has been working on lately" presentation would probably be composed of a discussion of git --bare archives, hooks, and a debate about whether or not "staging" and "production" should live on the same server. ? :) ? ?I'll also bring the challenge/quiz books Blaine bequeathed us in case we want to do one of those.
>
> See you there!
>
> Jay Hannah
> Software Architect
> jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782
>
>
>
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From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Thu Jan 13 09:31:21 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:31:21 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] 5.10 - vertical, horizontal whitespace
Message-ID: <D2C03C22-CAD8-4A93-B3FB-3D200A92A165@mutationgrid.com>

Ooo, neat. Hadn't noticed these additions to 5.10...

http://perldoc.perl.org/perlrebackslash.html

?  \h                Character class for horizontal whitespace.
?  \H                Character class for non horizontal whitespace.
?  \v                Character class for vertical whitespace.
?  \V                Character class for non vertical whitespace.

That could come in really hand on occasion.

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782



IRC freenode #bioperl
14:53 < dbolser> how do I stop /s+ matching the final /n?
14:53 < dbolser> s/\s+/\t/g
14:55  * dbolser asks in perl
14:58 <@pyrimidine> dbolser: on modern perl I think you can use \N\
14:58 <@pyrimidine> * \N
14:59 < dbolser> Missing braces on \N{} at
15:00 < dbolser> Quantifier follows nothing in regex; marked by ...
15:00 < dbolser> I guess I'm not modern
15:00 <@pyrimidine> Nope, I'm wrong
15:00 <@pyrimidine> \N is for Unicode.  There is something added recently, though
15:01 <@pyrimidine> no, actually I was correct :) http://perldoc.perl.org/perlre.html
15:02 <@pyrimidine> \N has two meanings in perl 5.12 (not sure if this is in 5.10, but I know it isn't in 5.8)
15:02 <@pyrimidine> dbolser: you can always use a character class instead
15:04 < dbolser> pyrimidine: I found 'the easy way' ;-)
15:04 < dbolser> s/ +/\t/g;
15:04 < dbolser> funny how the blindingly obvoius is easy to miss at times
15:04 <@pyrimidine> what if you have \s\t?
15:05 <@pyrimidine> :)
15:05 < dbolser> I don't
15:05 < dbolser> afaik
15:06 <@pyrimidine> I was thinking something like s/[ \t]+/\t/g
15:08 <@pyrimidine> dbolser: perl 5.10 has a way to match vertical and horizontal whitespace, using \v and \h, so that could probably be s/\h+//g (if you have 5.10. that is)
15:08 <@pyrimidine> http://perldoc.perl.org/perlrebackslash.html
15:17 < dbolser> pyrimidine: right

From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Fri Jan 14 19:03:02 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:03:02 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] DateTime::Duration ->days()
Message-ID: <C15FE50A-4DC8-4609-B97A-6AC4DDCFD10D@mutationgrid.com>

What the heck? Why is DateTime so popular? Date::Calc and Class::Date make this trivial.


$ cat j.pl
use 5.12.0;
use DateTime;

my $end =   DateTime->new(year => 2011, month => 01, day => 14);
my $start = DateTime->new(year => 2007, month => 05, day => 15);
my $d = $end - $start;
say $d->days;

$ perl j.pl
2


Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782


From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Fri Jan 14 19:17:07 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:17:07 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] DateTime::Duration ->days()
In-Reply-To: <C15FE50A-4DC8-4609-B97A-6AC4DDCFD10D@mutationgrid.com>
References: <C15FE50A-4DC8-4609-B97A-6AC4DDCFD10D@mutationgrid.com>
Message-ID: <97D033C6-C0F1-46DF-95C2-1BBCAD49556F@mutationgrid.com>

On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Jay Hannah wrote:
> What the heck? Why is DateTime so popular? Date::Calc and Class::Date make this trivial.

See? Easy...


$ cat j2.pl
use 5.12.0;
use Date::Calc qw(Delta_Days);

say sprintf('$%0.2f', 1025 / Delta_Days(2007, 5, 15, 2011, 1, 14));

$ perl j2.pl
$0.76


My laptop died today. And that's how much money it cost me per day I owned it. Used it daily. Not bad.  :)

   http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1500762&l=fe015d08cb&id=1032415362

Thanks,

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782






From sterling at hanenkamp.com  Sat Jan 15 22:24:25 2011
From: sterling at hanenkamp.com (Sterling Hanenkamp)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:24:25 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] DateTime::Duration ->days()
In-Reply-To: <97D033C6-C0F1-46DF-95C2-1BBCAD49556F@mutationgrid.com>
References: <C15FE50A-4DC8-4609-B97A-6AC4DDCFD10D@mutationgrid.com>
	<97D033C6-C0F1-46DF-95C2-1BBCAD49556F@mutationgrid.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=KrtNf4x5hhoHA365+xFo3NZDBzdYwEuF4ofhb@mail.gmail.com>

In DateTime, you want delta_days... twice.

my $start = DateTime->new(year => 2007, month => 5, day => 15);
my $end = DateTime->new(year => 2011, month => 1, day => 14);
say sprintf('$%0.2f', 1025 / $end->delta_days($start)->delta_days);

DateTime is popular because it is accurate, common, standard, extensible,
and popular (since popularity is a property that feeds itself), not because
it is fast or easy to use by itself (it is neither in my experience).

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Jay Hannah <jhannah at mutationgrid.com>wrote:

> On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Jay Hannah wrote:
> > What the heck? Why is DateTime so popular? Date::Calc and Class::Date
> make this trivial.
>
> See? Easy...
>
>
> $ cat j2.pl
> use 5.12.0;
> use Date::Calc qw(Delta_Days);
>
> say sprintf('$%0.2f', 1025 / Delta_Days(2007, 5, 15, 2011, 1, 14));
>
> $ perl j2.pl
> $0.76
>
>
> My laptop died today. And that's how much money it cost me per day I owned
> it. Used it daily. Not bad.  :)
>
>   http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1500762&l=fe015d08cb&id=1032415362
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay Hannah
> Software Architect
> jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782
>
>
>
>
>
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From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Tue Jan 18 23:41:00 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 01:41:00 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Plat_Forms Day 2: Java vs. Perl vs. PHP vs. Ruby
Message-ID: <151306F4-A5BF-465E-8C48-10530D3EC954@mutationgrid.com>

Blog post: "Day 2: Good morning!"
   http://www.plat-forms.org/day-2-good-morning

The teams:
   http://www.plat-forms.org/teams-2011

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782






From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Tue Jan 25 12:20:16 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:20:16 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] shiny!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinqbtYQDmnkiSSciWPj9k__qioHVrwDt=-iS6cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201101080512.p085C6DQ004964@li109-243.members.linode.com>
	<4CD63A39-5D46-4AD1-8FD3-DDA7EC1357AF@mutationgrid.com>
	<AANLkTinqbtYQDmnkiSSciWPj9k__qioHVrwDt=-iS6cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57FB84AC-7519-4069-A43A-BFEE7839DBDD@mutationgrid.com>

MacBook Air 13" perl 5.12.3    -drool-    :)

t/porting/podcheck.............................................ok
t/porting/test_bootstrap.......................................ok
All tests successful.
u=4.62  s=2.44  cu=403.61  cs=58.61  scripts=1695  tests=349912

real	11m47.275s
user	6m54.281s
sys	1m3.840s


Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782




On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Dave Burchell wrote:
> Macbook Air, 11 inch base model:
> 
> t/porting/maintainers..........................................ok
> t/porting/manifest.............................................ok
> t/porting/podcheck.............................................ok
> t/porting/test_bootstrap.......................................ok
> All tests successful.
> u=6.40  s=3.82  cu=521.23  cs=85.58  scripts=1693  tests=349815
> 
> real    21m43.452s
> user    15m19.479s
> sys    2m10.285s


On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Jay Hannah <jhannah at mutationgrid.com> wrote:
> Mmm... 5.12.2 installed on my new 27" iMac.   -drool-    :)
> 
> $ time make test
> ...
> t/porting/maintainers..........................................ok
> t/porting/manifest.............................................ok
> t/porting/podcheck.............................................ok
> t/porting/test_bootstrap.......................................ok
> All tests successful.
> u=3.21  s=1.51  cu=251.93  cs=34.03  scripts=1693  tests=349868
> 
> real    8m48.745s
> user    4m18.533s
> sys     0m37.122s





From evaddnomaid at gmail.com  Tue Jan 25 12:32:42 2011
From: evaddnomaid at gmail.com (Dave Burchell)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:32:42 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] shiny!
In-Reply-To: <57FB84AC-7519-4069-A43A-BFEE7839DBDD@mutationgrid.com>
References: <201101080512.p085C6DQ004964@li109-243.members.linode.com>
	<4CD63A39-5D46-4AD1-8FD3-DDA7EC1357AF@mutationgrid.com>
	<AANLkTinqbtYQDmnkiSSciWPj9k__qioHVrwDt=-iS6cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<57FB84AC-7519-4069-A43A-BFEE7839DBDD@mutationgrid.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimn+SAUsJTAmAqFkhqTq0gGKaKbjPNYh9Xv0h3y@mail.gmail.com>

Yours?

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Jay Hannah <jhannah at mutationgrid.com>wrote:

> MacBook Air 13" perl 5.12.3    -drool-    :)
>
> t/porting/podcheck.............................................ok
> t/porting/test_bootstrap.......................................ok
> All tests successful.
> u=4.62  s=2.44  cu=403.61  cs=58.61  scripts=1695  tests=349912
>
> real    11m47.275s
> user    6m54.281s
> sys     1m3.840s
>
>
> Jay Hannah
> Software Architect
> jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782
>
>
> --
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From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Tue Jan 25 12:40:58 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:40:58 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] shiny!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimn+SAUsJTAmAqFkhqTq0gGKaKbjPNYh9Xv0h3y@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201101080512.p085C6DQ004964@li109-243.members.linode.com>
	<4CD63A39-5D46-4AD1-8FD3-DDA7EC1357AF@mutationgrid.com>
	<AANLkTinqbtYQDmnkiSSciWPj9k__qioHVrwDt=-iS6cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<57FB84AC-7519-4069-A43A-BFEE7839DBDD@mutationgrid.com>
	<AANLkTimn+SAUsJTAmAqFkhqTq0gGKaKbjPNYh9Xv0h3y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F067AE5F-9ADC-4CD3-8273-CD1903007B71@mutationgrid.com>

On Jan 25, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Dave Burchell wrote:
> Yours?

Ya. Mutation Grid got a long-term contract so had money around to buy an initial set of furniture and equipment. 

> MacBook Air 13" perl 5.12.3    -drool-    :)
> Mmm... 5.12.2 installed on my new 27" iMac.   -drool-    :)

And my black MacBook from 2007 died, pressing the issue. (It wqs later reborn for my 13 year old son.)

:)

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782





From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Tue Jan 25 22:02:23 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:02:23 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Plat_Forms epilogue: Java vs. Perl vs. PHP vs. Ruby
In-Reply-To: <151306F4-A5BF-465E-8C48-10530D3EC954@mutationgrid.com>
References: <151306F4-A5BF-465E-8C48-10530D3EC954@mutationgrid.com>
Message-ID: <E482E108-735E-483D-ACD9-880457CBF24B@mutationgrid.com>


http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/plat-forms-redux/

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782






From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Fri Jan 28 13:04:37 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:04:37 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] 5.8 becomes unsupported in April
Message-ID: <151FEC90-6F22-4937-BA45-5E441FC50B17@mutationgrid.com>

Will your perl remain supported -- and what does that mean?

Remember, Perl shops: if you're still on 5.8 come April, you're on an unsupported legacy version. Current versions are 5.10.1 and 5.12.3

http://rjbs.manxome.org/rubric/entry/1872

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782




From dan at linder.org  Fri Jan 28 14:47:59 2011
From: dan at linder.org (Dan Linder)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:47:59 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] 5.8 becomes unsupported in April
In-Reply-To: <151FEC90-6F22-4937-BA45-5E441FC50B17@mutationgrid.com>
References: <151FEC90-6F22-4937-BA45-5E441FC50B17@mutationgrid.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikGKVzRWhmJE9UaoZESUJRSM-CK8UivFQrw6j2r@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the heads-up.  I'm trying to convince my co-workers that listing
"Perl 5.8 or greater" as a requirement is more of a hindrance now...

Question: Does Perl follow the even/odd method of denoting a production vs
development track, or does the number following the first decimal point just
happen to be even in all the common examples?

Dan

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 15:04, Jay Hannah <jhannah at mutationgrid.com> wrote:

> Will your perl remain supported -- and what does that mean?
>
> Remember, Perl shops: if you're still on 5.8 come April, you're on an
> unsupported legacy version. Current versions are 5.10.1 and 5.12.3
>
> http://rjbs.manxome.org/rubric/entry/1872
>
> Jay Hannah
> Software Architect
> jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Omaha-pm at pm.org
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From jhannah at mutationgrid.com  Fri Jan 28 17:02:31 2011
From: jhannah at mutationgrid.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:02:31 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] 5.8 becomes unsupported in April
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikGKVzRWhmJE9UaoZESUJRSM-CK8UivFQrw6j2r@mail.gmail.com>
References: <151FEC90-6F22-4937-BA45-5E441FC50B17@mutationgrid.com>
	<AANLkTikGKVzRWhmJE9UaoZESUJRSM-CK8UivFQrw6j2r@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43653B71-6C78-49C0-90AE-E4F7EE19C802@mutationgrid.com>

On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Dan Linder wrote:
> Question: Does Perl follow the even/odd method of denoting a production vs development track, or does the number following the first decimal point just happen to be even in all the common examples?

http://www.cpan.org/src/README.html
http://search.cpan.org/~jpeacock/version-0.88/lib/version/Internals.pod

How's that for "more than you EVER wanted to know"?

:)

Jay Hannah
Software Architect
jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782



From dan at linder.org  Sat Jan 29 07:09:21 2011
From: dan at linder.org (Dan Linder)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:09:21 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] 5.8 becomes unsupported in April
In-Reply-To: <43653B71-6C78-49C0-90AE-E4F7EE19C802@mutationgrid.com>
References: <151FEC90-6F22-4937-BA45-5E441FC50B17@mutationgrid.com>
	<AANLkTikGKVzRWhmJE9UaoZESUJRSM-CK8UivFQrw6j2r@mail.gmail.com>
	<43653B71-6C78-49C0-90AE-E4F7EE19C802@mutationgrid.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimpG2=hFMBNt2QyyXs5Psgh4Vv-OdDMbK5pwzFL@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Jay!  (Short answer, yes Perl follows the odd/even devel/production
numbering scheme.)

Dan

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 19:02, Jay Hannah <jhannah at mutationgrid.com> wrote:

> On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Dan Linder wrote:
> > Question: Does Perl follow the even/odd method of denoting a production
> vs development track, or does the number following the first decimal point
> just happen to be even in all the common examples?
>
> http://www.cpan.org/src/README.html
> http://search.cpan.org/~jpeacock/version-0.88/lib/version/Internals.pod
>
> How's that for "more than you EVER wanted to know"?
>
> :)
>
> Jay Hannah
> Software Architect
> jhannah at mutationgrid.com | http://mutationgrid.com | 1-402-598-7782
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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