From peter.t.wilson at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 21:23:18 2007 From: peter.t.wilson at gmail.com (Pete Wilson) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 21:23:18 -0700 Subject: [Oc-pm] Next Meeting In-Reply-To: <20070912193457.GI20003@www.unobe.com> References: <20070912192924.GH20003@www.unobe.com> <20070912193457.GI20003@www.unobe.com> Message-ID: <4c3ca8c50710032123o7e6a7b27w14988e8fa9706782@mail.gmail.com> Hi guys, It turns out that I am able to go to San Diego tomorrow evening. Is any one else going? Does anyone want to carpool. -Pete On 9/12/07, David Romano wrote: > David Romano wrote on Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 12:29:24PM PDT: > > Thoughts? > Well, I already have another thought (I should have read my e-mail > sooner). If anyone else wants to go down to SD, we might be able to > carpool or something: > > ----- Forwarded message from "Randal L. Schwartz" ----- > > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:12:14 -0700 > From: "Randal L. Schwartz" > To: Bob Kleemann > Cc: Perl Mongers > Subject: Re: [San-Diego-pm] Damian is coming to town! > > >>>>> "Bob" == Bob Kleemann writes: > > Bob> Damian Conway is coming to town next month. He's offered to host one of > Bob> his great seminars for us on either October 3 or 4. So the questions I > Bob> have for the list is, what day works best for you, and what seminar are > Bob> you interested in. > > Heh... I'll *also* be in town on the 3rd and 4th of october. :) When it rains, > it pours. > > I'm doing a photo workshop from the 4th through the 7th at a downtown hotel, > busy during the day, not sure what's happening in the evenings until I get > started. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! > _______________________________________________ > San-Diego-pm mailing list > San-Diego-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > - David > > -- > "One of the most difficult matters in all controversy is to distinguish > disputes about words from disputes about facts: it ought not to be > difficult, but in practice it is." > -- Bertrand Russell, The ABC of Relativity > _______________________________________________ > Oc-pm mailing list > Oc-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oc-pm > From naterajj at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 12:08:57 2007 From: naterajj at gmail.com (Juan Jose Natera) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:08:57 -0700 Subject: [Oc-pm] Fwd: The Pittsburgh Perl Workshop 2007 is October 13-14, 2007. In-Reply-To: <470536BA.8010400@robertblackwell.com> References: <470536BA.8010400@robertblackwell.com> Message-ID: <349627440710041208v5edf14b4icd0adb6de62def43@mail.gmail.com> In case you didn't know and want to attend :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- The 2007 Pittsburgh Perl Workshop is only 10 days away. The Pittsburgh Perl Mongers are pleased to announce The PITTSBURGH PERL WORKSHOP, a two-day, low-cost conference on Saturday and Sunday, October 13-14, 2007. The Pittsburgh Perl Workshop is an annual conference dedicated to the Perl programming language. In 2006, the Pittsburgh Perl Mongers hosted the first Perl Workshop based in the United States. This year, the Workshop has been expanded to two days. The 2007 Workshop is structured as a series of short lectures, but the atmosphere is low key and engaging: the perfect combination to open your mind and then cram it full of good stuff. After last year's conference you gave us lots of feedback, and we listened. * The workshop was expanded to a two-day event to allow for more talks, birds-of-a-feather sessions, and social interactions. * A one-day course for programmers with little or no Perl experience?-taught by a world-class Perl trainer?-was added. * The schedule has been improved to allow you more flexibility in choosing sessions to attend. Lightning Talks There's still time to get a third of your fifteen minutes of fame! Submit your lightning talk today. The deadline for early acceptance is one week before the conference (October 6). But if you have an idea on the first day of the conference, we're holding at least two lightning talk spots until the end of that day. However, you have a much better chance of being accepted if submit your talk now. Stay up to date with everything that's going on with the Perl Workshop by subscribing to our RSS feed at http://pghpw.org/ppw2007/atom/en.xml. If you are coming to the Friday Social, RSVP at http://pghpw.org/ppw2007/wiki?node=Friday%20Social. Full details are on the Workshop Web site at http://pghpw.org. Hope to see you there. Robert Blackwell From david.romano at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 14:04:02 2007 From: david.romano at gmail.com (David Romano) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:04:02 -0700 Subject: [Oc-pm] Next Meeting In-Reply-To: <4c3ca8c50710032123o7e6a7b27w14988e8fa9706782@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070912192924.GH20003@www.unobe.com> <20070912193457.GI20003@www.unobe.com> <4c3ca8c50710032123o7e6a7b27w14988e8fa9706782@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071004210402.GD953@www.unobe.com> Hi Pete, Pete Wilson wrote on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 09:23:18PM PDT: > It turns out that I am able to go to San Diego tomorrow evening. Is > any one else going? Does anyone want to carpool. I'm going tonight and I'm interested in carpooling. Are you planning on hanging around after the meeting? I need to wake up early tomorrow so I don't want to stay out too late. - David -- "For the fear of death is indeed the pretence of wisdom, and not real wisdom, being a pretence of knowing the unknown; and no one knows whether death, which men in their fear apprehend to be the greatest evil, may not be the greatest good. Is not this ignorance of a disgraceful sort, the ignorance which is the conceit that man knows what he does not know?" -- Socrates, The Apology by Plato From dgwilson1 at cox.net Thu Oct 4 19:14:01 2007 From: dgwilson1 at cox.net (Douglas Wilson) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:14:01 -0800 Subject: [Oc-pm] Next Meeting In-Reply-To: <20071004210402.GD953@www.unobe.com> References: <20070912192924.GH20003@www.unobe.com> <20070912193457.GI20003@www.unobe.com> <4c3ca8c50710032123o7e6a7b27w14988e8fa9706782@mail.gmail.com> <20071004210402.GD953@www.unobe.com> Message-ID: <47059DE9.3000605@cox.net> I wish I was going...if only it were another night...oh well, have fun to whoever is going. It'll be something to talk about the next time OC gets together :) David Romano wrote: > Hi Pete, > Pete Wilson wrote on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 09:23:18PM PDT: >> It turns out that I am able to go to San Diego tomorrow evening. Is >> any one else going? Does anyone want to carpool. > I'm going tonight and I'm interested in carpooling. Are you planning on > hanging around after the meeting? I need to wake up early tomorrow so I > don't want to stay out too late. > > - David > From david.romano at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 20:46:40 2007 From: david.romano at gmail.com (David Romano) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:46:40 -0700 Subject: [Oc-pm] Damian Talk Message-ID: <20071009034640.GN953@www.unobe.com> Hi everyone, Despite last minute planning, 3 members of OC PM went to Damian's talk on Thursday down in San Diego: Vijay, Pete, and David. We headed off @ around 5pm and made good time, with little traffic, but we weren't able to enjoy the beers that Vijay had in the cooler. But we did have excellent food at Nico's Tacos (suggested by a few San Diego Perl Mongers), near the lavish Qualcomm facility that the meeting was held at. Chris Grau, Bob Kleeman, and about 25 others others were also in the audience with us. The talk started with a discussion of why it was entitled Sex and Violence, and then Damian segued into the history of Perl, starting at around 50 billion years ago with the Big Bang. In several instances, the violence was directed at Java. Some notable quotes: "The way to market Perl 6 is to tell your manager it's a new version of Java and all the dollar signs represent the money they're saving." "Westheimer's Rule for schedule estimation: (G_max x 2)^(u + 1), where you take your most pessimistic estimate, multiply it by 2, and raise it to the power of your unit increased by one unit of granularity. For example, your most pessimistic estimate is 3 weeks, your project will take 6 months (3 weeks * 2 -> 6 weeks -> 6 months)" The bulk of the talk consisted of 7 technical and 7 social lessons, some of which were "have pithy goals," "project management isn't just for drones," "volunteers are voluntary," "optimize for the common case," and "first kill all the theorists." There were also a lot of Perl 6 examples, along with explanations for the syntax and reasons for the design decisions. Also good reasons for why it's taken 7 years was given at different times. Great time was had by all. We're just bummed that it looks like it's gonna be another year before a beta version is available. - David -- "Abstraction, difficult as it is, is the source of practical power." -- Bertrand Russell, The ABC of Relativity From btilly at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 11:16:49 2007 From: btilly at gmail.com (Ben Tilly) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:16:49 -0700 Subject: [Oc-pm] [LA.pm] OT: Fires. Everyone OK? In-Reply-To: <230AE0B6-0115-1000-BB66-1F23C7728C6F-Webmail-10015@mac.com> References: <230AE0B6-0115-1000-BB66-1F23C7728C6F-Webmail-10015@mac.com> Message-ID: On 10/22/07, Elizabeth Cortell wrote: > Please check in. This is where it would be nice to have a google mashup of where everyone lives. People could then overlay that with the map of where the fires are and I wouldn't feel compelled to respond and say that I'm fine in Long Beach. :-) Ben From bibayoff at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 20:06:46 2007 From: bibayoff at gmail.com (Steve M Bibayoff) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:06:46 -0700 Subject: [Oc-pm] Richard Stallman speaking at UC Irvine on Friday Message-ID: <540b90d0710302006h25bacd00v224e08d4a3aa2acc@mail.gmail.com> Hello, Richard Stallman will be speaking at UC Irvine this Friday, Nov 2nd at 10:00am at the CalIT2 Auditorium. Richard Stallman is the Chief Gnu of the Free Software Foundation, the organization responsible for a substantial part of the utility of GNU/Linux system. He is also the intellectual father of the GNU General Public Licence, one of the most disruptive manifestos of the software age. He will speak on: ** The Danger of Software Patents ** "Richard Stallman launched the development of the GNU operating system (see www.gnu.org) in 1984. GNU is free software: everyone has the freedom to copy it and redistribute it, as well as to make changes either large or small. The GNU/Linux system, basically the GNU operating system with Linux added, is used on tens of millions of computers today. Stallman has received the ACM Grace Hopper Award, a MacArthur Foundation fellowship, the Electronic Frontier Foundation's Pioneer award, and the the Takeda Award for Social/Economic Betterment, as well as several honorary doctorates." 10:00am on Friday Nov 2nd at the CalIT2 Auditorium. The CalIT2 building is #325 at Coordinates H-8 on the UCI Campus Map: http://today.uci.edu/pdf/UCI_07_map_campus_core.pdf Parking is $7.00. Directions to UC Irvine can be found here: http://today.uci.edu/pdf/UCI_07_map_loc.pdf Also, if anyone is interested, there may be an ad hoc dinner party w/ Richard Stallman on Sunday evening/night right after BarCampLA ( http://barcampla.org/ ). If interested in attending this dinner, please email me OFFLIST w/, preferable, your cel phone # so I could text message you when I have the details. If you don't want to give me your cel phone number, I'll be happy to send out an email w/ the info. Any questions, please email me, Steve From naterajj at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 12:07:56 2007 From: naterajj at gmail.com (Juan Jose Natera) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:07:56 -0700 Subject: [Oc-pm] Perl Mongers @ SCALE 6x Message-ID: <349627440710311207j552e4507x7d67876145aa0276@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I am sending this email simultaneously to OC.pm, San-Diego.pm and Thousand-Oaks.pm, SCALE 6x is the 6th Southern California Linux Expo ( http://socallinuxexpo.com ), it is to be held Friday, Saturday and Sunday, February 8-10, 2008 at the Westin Los Angeles Airport. Back in February LA.pm had a booth at SCALE for promoting Perl, for next year we thought it would be great to have members not only from LA, but also from all of the local Perl Mongers Groups, namely OC, Thousand Oaks and San Diego. There are logistical issues to address, but early preparations mean we have time to take care of them (the demos at the booth, finding sponsors for the extra exhibitor passes, as well as any banners and other POP material). All we need is one volunteer from your group to be at the booth for a few hours (TBD, depends on the number of volunteers), that person would get a free pass to the convention. Even if nobody in your group can volunteer, I think it doesn't hurt anybody to say the booth is from the SoCal Perl Mongers, unless there are any objections. I am about to send the booth request application in name of the SoCal Perl Mongers to the SCALE organizers, you can review the document at: http://www.nuevearepas.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/PerlMongers-BoothRequest.pdf Best regards, Juan Natera P.S. SCALE's CFP is open until the end of November, please submit your Perl Talk if you have one.