From mike at oakleyweb.com Mon Mar 1 11:29:59 2004 From: mike at oakleyweb.com (Michael Wood) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:04 2004 Subject: OC-PM: pizza tomorrow night... Message-ID: <000f01c3ffb2$d2ab7760$d82b14ac@guavasmobile> Greetings, I've got to get the address to the place, but for a heads up I can tell you that there's a pizza joint on the corner of Trabuco and El Toro, here in Lake Forest - I think it's a Lampost Pizza. I'm going to scout it out tonight and I'll dispatch detailed address info with a mapquest map tomorrow. Need to make sure they vend spirits ;) -Michael From mike at oakleyweb.com Tue Mar 2 16:00:34 2004 From: mike at oakleyweb.com (Michael Wood) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:04 2004 Subject: OC-PM: detailed info for tonight - Message-ID: <001501c400a1$ca4a0600$d82b14ac@guavasmobile> When: 7pm Where: Lamppost Pizza What: Social Get-Together Detailed Info: Lamppost Pizza 22421 El Toro Road Lake Forest, CA 92630 (949) 583-7111 Map: http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&countryid=250&addtohistory=&address=22421+El+Toro+Road&city=Lake+Forest&state=CA&zipcode=92630&submit=Get+Map see you there - Michael From dgwilson at sonomasystems.net Wed Mar 3 18:09:37 2004 From: dgwilson at sonomasystems.net (Wilson, Douglas) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:04 2004 Subject: OC-PM: EJB vs. The Old Days Message-ID: <8FFBCE8C59BF814B8258905C9B4D8317100BE6@sonoma-main.sonoma.local> Here is a link to something I was talking about last night. You wonder what any of it has to do with EJB until you get to the end... :-) http://scarydevil.com/~peter/io/java.html As far as perl content, lemme see if I remember...there was some mention of SEC - the Simple Event Correlator (see Mike, I remembered :-) Anyway, I haven't looked at it yet, but I was wondering on what level it was similar/different to POE...though I know not much more about POE than SEC :) I mentioned that we were using Remedy at work (for the last couple of months), and of course there's a perl module for it (ARSperl), but not knowing anything about the internals of Remedy, the learning curve appears rather steep. I was wondering if anyone knew of where to start looking for beginning Remedy developer documentation....TIA. And that's about it...I believe we decided that the location was acceptable, but we'd keep our options open (and we're open to suggestions, in case anyone has one). Cheers, Doug From Brian.Cooke at VerizonWireless.com Wed Mar 3 18:23:11 2004 From: Brian.Cooke at VerizonWireless.com (Brian.Cooke@VerizonWireless.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:04 2004 Subject: OC-PM: EJB vs. The Old Days Message-ID: <622ED88598E6284E95BAEF2AD40A2E7503A2A865@CAIRVEXMB11.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> We have Remedy here, but for that I'm classified as "user" rather than "developer". I'll see if I can dig around for documentation. Also, check out Remedy::ARSTools, which is an OO interface to ARSPerl, and seems to do a pretty good job of simplifying things somewhat. I only use the Query() method (the one method the author says it's best not to use). Haven't used it to create or modify tickets. If you have access to the database back-end (I don't), the GenerateConfig => 1 option in the constructor will generate a nice mapping of the human-readable Remedy fields to their less-readable (unreadable) database fields. You can then query tickets right from there. bc -----Original Message----- From: Wilson, Douglas [mailto:dgwilson@sonomasystems.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:10 PM To: oc-pm@pm.org Subject: OC-PM: EJB vs. The Old Days Here is a link to something I was talking about last night. You wonder what any of it has to do with EJB until you get to the end... :-) http://scarydevil.com/~peter/io/java.html As far as perl content, lemme see if I remember...there was some mention of SEC - the Simple Event Correlator (see Mike, I remembered :-) Anyway, I haven't looked at it yet, but I was wondering on what level it was similar/different to POE...though I know not much more about POE than SEC :) I mentioned that we were using Remedy at work (for the last couple of months), and of course there's a perl module for it (ARSperl), but not knowing anything about the internals of Remedy, the learning curve appears rather steep. I was wondering if anyone knew of where to start looking for beginning Remedy developer documentation....TIA. And that's about it...I believe we decided that the location was acceptable, but we'd keep our options open (and we're open to suggestions, in case anyone has one). Cheers, Doug From bill at daze.net Wed Mar 3 19:24:46 2004 From: bill at daze.net (bill@daze.net) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:04 2004 Subject: OC-PM: EJB vs. The Old Days In-Reply-To: <8FFBCE8C59BF814B8258905C9B4D8317100BE6@sonoma-main.sonoma.local> References: <8FFBCE8C59BF814B8258905C9B4D8317100BE6@sonoma-main.sonoma.local> Message-ID: <20040303171923.M69821@droid.daze.net> Sorry I couldn't make it last night... > I mentioned that we were using Remedy at work (for the last > couple of months), and of course there's a perl module for it So since I wasn't there, I don't have the full context of this and the only thing I know about Remedy is: "Compared to other products such as Remedy, RT is amazing and allows us to focus on helping customers and projects. - Jeremy Hitchcock, Chief Financial Officer, DynDNS.org" (quote from http://www.bestpractical.com/products.html) I thought I would mention RT (Request Tracker). RT is written in Perl with a Mason. We use it for all customer communications and a bunch of other stuff (logging of automatic notices and such). You might want to check it out. It has been designed to be very easy to extend and enhance via overlays. > And that's about it...I believe we decided that the location was > acceptable, but we'd keep our options open (and we're open to > suggestions, in case anyone has one). I like the location. It's only a few blocks from my house. - Bill -- <=> ASK and you shall receive <=> From Brian.Cooke at VerizonWireless.com Thu Mar 4 00:50:30 2004 From: Brian.Cooke at VerizonWireless.com (Brian.Cooke@VerizonWireless.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:04 2004 Subject: OC-PM: EJB vs. The Old Days Message-ID: <622ED88598E6284E95BAEF2AD40A2E7503A2A867@CAIRVEXMB11.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> Funny... Actually, the context was me asking if anyone had used Request Tracker, because I had just started tinkering with it, with the intention of deploying it for project and work request management within our small workgroup. So far I like it a lot. There is a larger customer support group in our company that's pretty steeped in Remedy, and I have to run reports on their ticket data, so I'm stuck with accessing Remedy for some of my reporting. Plus the DBAs won't give us read access to the back-end, which makes it that much worse. At least Remedy::ARSTools makes it manageable, and has kept me from having to figure out the API for myself. bc -----Original Message----- From: bill@daze.net [mailto:bill@daze.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 5:25 PM To: oc-pm@pm.org Subject: Re: OC-PM: EJB vs. The Old Days Sorry I couldn't make it last night... > I mentioned that we were using Remedy at work (for the last > couple of months), and of course there's a perl module for it So since I wasn't there, I don't have the full context of this and the only thing I know about Remedy is: "Compared to other products such as Remedy, RT is amazing and allows us to focus on helping customers and projects. - Jeremy Hitchcock, Chief Financial Officer, DynDNS.org" (quote from http://www.bestpractical.com/products.html) I thought I would mention RT (Request Tracker). RT is written in Perl with a Mason. We use it for all customer communications and a bunch of other stuff (logging of automatic notices and such). You might want to check it out. It has been designed to be very easy to extend and enhance via overlays. > And that's about it...I believe we decided that the location was > acceptable, but we'd keep our options open (and we're open to > suggestions, in case anyone has one). I like the location. It's only a few blocks from my house. - Bill -- <=> ASK and you shall receive <=> From dgwilson at sonomasystems.net Thu Mar 4 11:20:18 2004 From: dgwilson at sonomasystems.net (Wilson, Douglas) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:04 2004 Subject: OC-PM: EJB vs. The Old Days Message-ID: <8FFBCE8C59BF814B8258905C9B4D8317100BE8@sonoma-main.sonoma.local> I'd be happy if I could do away with Remedy and use something else, but it just ain't my decision to make :-) I think it's the old "We've spent too much money on it to change now" argument... Since I'm being forced to use it, I thought I'd just use it as an opportunity to learn something new, though currently I don't even know how to do the most basic things like making queries (programmatically, not through the GUI). I'll get around to installing Remedy::ARSTools, and if I can learn to use that, and look at the source, maybe I can begin to understand it. The author does recommend not using the Query() method and querying the database directly through DBI (as Brian mentioned), which would involve learning the underlying database schema, and I'm wondering if there's some kind of quick reference to that somewhere also.... -----Original Message----- From: Brian.Cooke@VerizonWireless.com [mailto:Brian.Cooke@VerizonWireless.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:51 PM To: oc-pm@pm.org Subject: RE: OC-PM: EJB vs. The Old Days Funny... Actually, the context was me asking if anyone had used Request Tracker, because I had just started tinkering with it, with the intention of deploying it for project and work request management within our small workgroup. So far I like it a lot. There is a larger customer support group in our company that's pretty steeped in Remedy, and I have to run reports on their ticket data, so I'm stuck with accessing Remedy for some of my reporting. Plus the DBAs won't give us read access to the back-end, which makes it that much worse. At least Remedy::ARSTools makes it manageable, and has kept me from having to figure out the API for myself. bc -----Original Message----- From: bill@daze.net [mailto:bill@daze.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 5:25 PM To: oc-pm@pm.org Subject: Re: OC-PM: EJB vs. The Old Days Sorry I couldn't make it last night... > I mentioned that we were using Remedy at work (for the last > couple of months), and of course there's a perl module for it So since I wasn't there, I don't have the full context of this and the only thing I know about Remedy is: "Compared to other products such as Remedy, RT is amazing and allows us to focus on helping customers and projects. - Jeremy Hitchcock, Chief Financial Officer, DynDNS.org" (quote from http://www.bestpractical.com/products.html) I thought I would mention RT (Request Tracker). RT is written in Perl with a Mason. We use it for all customer communications and a bunch of other stuff (logging of automatic notices and such). You might want to check it out. It has been designed to be very easy to extend and enhance via overlays. > And that's about it...I believe we decided that the location was > acceptable, but we'd keep our options open (and we're open to > suggestions, in case anyone has one). I like the location. It's only a few blocks from my house. - Bill -- <=> ASK and you shall receive <=> From dgwilson at sonomasystems.net Mon Mar 8 12:32:14 2004 From: dgwilson at sonomasystems.net (Wilson, Douglas) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:04 2004 Subject: OC-PM: LA.pm talk tonight Message-ID: <8FFBCE8C59BF814B8258905C9B4D8317100BF7@sonoma-main.sonoma.local> Geoffrey Young is giving a talk on mod_perl 2.0 tomorrow night (Tuesday the 9th). Details at http://la.pm.org/ I'm driving up, if anyone wants a ride, email me and we'll try to meet. It starts at 7, I plan on leaving as close to 5 as possible, and I plan on staying for dinner afterward, so we'll be out kinda late for a weeknight :-) -Doug From dgwilson at sonomasystems.net Mon Mar 8 13:07:07 2004 From: dgwilson at sonomasystems.net (Wilson, Douglas) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:04 2004 Subject: OC-PM: LA.pm talk (oops, tomorrow) tonight Message-ID: <8FFBCE8C59BF814B8258905C9B4D8317100BFA@sonoma-main.sonoma.local> Did I say tonight? I meant tomorrow night.. (Ignore that previous title :-) And by 'as close to 5 as possible' below, I mean 'by 5:30 at the latest' :) -----Original Message----- From: Wilson, Douglas [mailto:dgwilson@sonomasystems.net] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:32 AM To: oc-pm@pm.org Subject: OC-PM: LA.pm talk tonight Geoffrey Young is giving a talk on mod_perl 2.0 tomorrow night (Tuesday the 9th). Details at http://la.pm.org/ I'm driving up, if anyone wants a ride, email me and we'll try to meet. It starts at 7, I plan on leaving as close to 5 as possible, and I plan on staying for dinner afterward, so we'll be out kinda late for a weeknight :-) -Doug From dgwilson at sonomasystems.net Tue Mar 9 14:12:43 2004 From: dgwilson at sonomasystems.net (Wilson, Douglas) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:04 2004 Subject: OC-PM: Mod_perl 2.0 talk tonight (really, it's tonight) Message-ID: <8FFBCE8C59BF814B8258905C9B4D8317100C04@sonoma-main.sonoma.local> Again, details at: http://la.pm.org I'll be leaving shortly after 5pm...I have extra room if anyone's in or around Irvine. Email me if you'd like a ride. From skamkar at LucidX.com Thu Mar 11 03:39:18 2004 From: skamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:04 2004 Subject: OC-PM: LA.pm talk tonight In-Reply-To: <8FFBCE8C59BF814B8258905C9B4D8317100BF7@sonoma-main.sonoma. local> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20040311013859.0264b1e8@mail.lucidx.com> Hope some of you made it -- it was great :) At 10:32 AM 3/8/2004 -0800, Wilson, Douglas wrote: >Geoffrey Young is giving a talk on mod_perl 2.0 tomorrow >night (Tuesday the 9th). Details at http://la.pm.org/ > >I'm driving up, if anyone wants a ride, email me and >we'll try to meet. It starts at 7, I plan on leaving as >close to 5 as possible, and I plan on staying for dinner >afterward, so we'll be out kinda late for a weeknight :-) > >-Doug