From cba at groundworkopensource.com Wed May 2 15:13:13 2007 From: cba at groundworkopensource.com (Chris Barton Anderson) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 15:13:13 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] You're Invited: Monitoring SIG, Weds May 9 7PM Message-ID: <1178136800.7510.3.camel@peterX20> (Hi: You're invited to the BayLISA Monitoring SIG, Weds May 9, 7PM. See the meeting announcement below: feel free to post it and/or forward it along to anyone else who might be interested. See you there!) ================================================= May BayLISA Monitoring SIG: Mini- to Mega-Monitoring Between the two presenters at the next Monitoring SIG we'll span the breadth and complexity of monitoring sites: 1) Bob will outline the modest needs of his "two servers at the colo" configuration: he doesn't have any monitoring in place yet, so we'll brainstorm about what he should deploy and how. 2) Charity from Linden Labs will discuss the current challenges and future plans for the three-and-a-half sys admins managing and monitoring the 4000+ servers(!) that sustain Second Life. We'll use these two examples to frame how to approach setting up and maintaining a monitoring setup. Newbies: bring your thorniest (or most basic) monitoring questions and issues. Not-So-Newbies: come prepared to share your experiences re. successful deployment, knowledge of specific tools and techniques, etc. What: BayLISA Monitoring SIG VII: Mini- to Mega-Monitoring Who: Anyone interested in IT monitoring issues and tools (newbies particularly welcome!) When: Wednesday, May 9 2007, 7PM Where: GroundWork Open Source, 139 Townsend St., San Francisco How: 139 Townsend St. is very near AT&T Park. It is two blocks from the CalTrain Depot. Take the MUNI T (or J) trolley to 2nd and King (ballpark stop) or take the 30 or 45 bus (among others) crosstown. Free evening street parking can probably be found because the Giants are playing an afternoon game (vs. Mets, 12:35 start) and it should be over by the time the SIG starts. Cost: Free!! Pizza pizza pizza, drinks drinks drinks, and snacks snacks snacks will be provided by GroundWork. We'll open up the doors at 6:30 or so and start the formal part of the meeting promptly at 7PM. RSVP (not necessary, but helpful): Peter Mui, pmui at groundworkopensource.com, 415 992 4573 ================================================= From george at metaart.org Wed May 2 19:42:58 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 19:42:58 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Useful Modules Message-ID: <200705021942.58858.george@metaart.org> Hi All, A couple of people have expressed interest in what modules people find useful. Do you think "Useful Modules" would be a good theme for a meeting? Would you be likely to come to such a meeting? Would you be likely to talk a little about a module(s) you've found useful? Skoal, George From george at metaart.org Wed May 2 19:54:36 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 19:54:36 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Dot-Org Booth at LinuxWorld? Message-ID: <200705021954.36294.george@metaart.org> Hi All, Do you think it's a good idea for the local Perl Mongers groups to have a dot-org booth at LinuxWorld? Would you be likely to be willing to be one of the people at the booth for several hours? Skoal, George From skolupae at sonic.net Wed May 2 20:52:43 2007 From: skolupae at sonic.net (skolupae at sonic.net) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 20:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] Useful Modules In-Reply-To: <200705021942.58858.george@metaart.org> References: <200705021942.58858.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <13781.207.69.248.187.1178164363.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> Great topic. Especially if everyone brings a short .txt or .html of his/her liked modules. I'd volunteer to collect them into a .html for the Oakland.pm website. I have a few. Like Cwd, Carp, IO::File, Data::Dumper, File::Path. They are a big help for basic file-system crawling and string manipulation. I might be able to find basic CGI.pm usage in my archives from the biotech days. Steve From quinn at fairpath.com Wed May 2 22:44:37 2007 From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 22:44:37 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Useful Modules In-Reply-To: <200705021942.58858.george@metaart.org> References: <200705021942.58858.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <20070503054436.GC39448@fu.funkspiel.org> On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 07:42:58PM -0700, George Woolley wrote: > Hi All, > A couple of people have expressed interest > in what modules people find useful. > > Do you think "Useful Modules" > would be a good theme for a meeting? > Would you be likely to come to such a meeting? > Would you be likely to talk a little about a module(s) > you've found useful? I'm up for speaking. My frequently used modules include log4perl and Getopt::Declare. I'm rather fond of Perl6::Export::Attrs too, for those rare cases where I'm actually exporting (as opposed to coding OO). I'll probably think of more later. PS: Getopt::Declare is a weird one. It's kind of a Damian thought experiment gone horribly wrong, or horribly right, depending on how you look at it... but it's definitely an instructive experiment to do. -- Quinn Weaver, independent contractor | President, San Francisco Perl Mongers http://fairpath.com/quinn/resume/ | http://sf.pm.org/ From quinn at fairpath.com Wed May 2 22:44:43 2007 From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 22:44:43 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Useful Modules In-Reply-To: <13781.207.69.248.187.1178164363.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> References: <200705021942.58858.george@metaart.org> <13781.207.69.248.187.1178164363.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> Message-ID: <20070503054443.GD39448@fu.funkspiel.org> On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 08:52:43PM -0700, skolupae at sonic.net wrote: > Great topic. Especially if everyone brings a short .txt or .html of > his/her liked modules. I'd volunteer to collect them into a .html for > the > Oakland.pm website. > > I have a few. Like Cwd, Carp, IO::File, Data::Dumper, File::Path. They > are a big help for basic file-system crawling and string manipulation. > > I might be able to find basic CGI.pm usage in my archives from the biotech > days. Hmmn, I personally wouldn't teach that to newbies. In my opinion, CGI.pm is one of those technologies whose time has come and gone. New people should be learning a templating language instead, like TT or Mason. It's just so much nicer to have HTML with a few funky tags, rather than a bunch of calls insider a Perl program... particularly if you're working with a graphic designer who's supposed to code the XHTML/CSS. Not a new observation--just restating the conventional wisdom. :) PS: It's interesting that all the modules you named as most useful are now Perl core modules. I guess they made the right decision to include them. -- Quinn Weaver, independent contractor | President, San Francisco Perl Mongers http://fairpath.com/quinn/resume/ | http://sf.pm.org/ From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Thu May 3 07:34:07 2007 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 07:34:07 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Dot-Org Booth at LinuxWorld? In-Reply-To: <200705021954.36294.george@metaart.org> References: <200705021954.36294.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <200705031434.l43EY7rE088763@kzsu.stanford.edu> George Woolley wrote: > Do you think it's a good idea for the local Perl Mongers groups > to have a dot-org booth at LinuxWorld? Yes, a very good idea. The next subject though would be what is the general shtick. I'd suggest CPAN activity stats, upcoming features in 5.10, and so on. > Would you be likely to be willing to be > one of the people at the booth for several hours? Sure. If you can get them to put it right next to the Postgresql guys that'd make it easier to get coverage. From quinn at fairpath.com Thu May 3 09:49:00 2007 From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 09:49:00 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Dot-Org Booth at LinuxWorld? In-Reply-To: <200705031434.l43EY7rE088763@kzsu.stanford.edu> References: <200705021954.36294.george@metaart.org> <200705031434.l43EY7rE088763@kzsu.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <20070503164900.GB46898@fu.funkspiel.org> On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 07:34:07AM -0700, Joe Brenner wrote: > > George Woolley wrote: > > > Do you think it's a good idea for the local Perl Mongers groups > > to have a dot-org booth at LinuxWorld? > > Yes, a very good idea. The next subject though would be what is the > general shtick. I'd suggest CPAN activity stats, upcoming features > in 5.10, and so on. Excellent ideas. I think "my real-world Perl experiences" is another good (and easy) category. E.g. I used Perl to write a GUI network visualizer, I used Perl to (re)write a quantitative trading system, et cetera... I can do Q&A about Catalyst, since MVCs are trendy these days. This is good for the people who ask about Ruby versus Perl. People will probably ask, "What's in Perl 6?" (and also "When will it be out?") I am not up on this topic, and I would appreciate help from someone who is. Finally, I'm afraid we'll have to add "debunking Perl myths". It's true: Perl gets no respect. Every time I tell people I write Perl code, they look at me like I'm wearing a foil hat. -- Quinn Weaver, independent contractor | President, San Francisco Perl Mongers http://fairpath.com/quinn/resume/ | http://sf.pm.org/ From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Thu May 3 12:18:17 2007 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 12:18:17 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Dot-Org Booth at LinuxWorld? In-Reply-To: <20070503164900.GB46898@fu.funkspiel.org> References: <200705021954.36294.george@metaart.org> <200705031434.l43EY7rE088763@kzsu.stanford.edu> <20070503164900.GB46898@fu.funkspiel.org> Message-ID: <200705031918.l43JIH39093464@kzsu.stanford.edu> Quinn Weaver wrote: > Joe Brenner wrote: > > > > George Woolley wrote: > > > > > Do you think it's a good idea for the local Perl Mongers groups > > > to have a dot-org booth at LinuxWorld? > > > > Yes, a very good idea. The next subject though would be what is the > > general shtick. I'd suggest CPAN activity stats, upcoming features > > in 5.10, and so on. > > Excellent ideas. Some time I'd like to try to graph module interdependencies of all of CPAN. I have a suspicion it would take a *lot* of space to display it, though. > I can do Q&A about Catalyst, since MVCs are trendy these days. > This is good for the people who ask about Ruby versus Perl. It's a thought. Lightning talks for the masses. We could have "mod_perl demos": set up some web browsers pointing at Ticket Master, Salon, and Amazon. > People will probably ask, "What's in Perl 6?" (and also "When will > it be out?") I am not up on this topic, and I would appreciate > help from someone who is. Myself, I'm not sure I'd mention it until they ask, though. (Sub-text: perl 5 isn't dead. Perl 6 is something else with an unfortunately similar name.) > Finally, I'm afraid we'll have to add "debunking Perl myths". That's what I was getting at, I was just trying to be positive about it. You answer a question like "but isn't perl dying?" without actually repeating the question. > It's true: Perl gets no respect. Every time I tell people I write > Perl code, they look at me like I'm wearing a foil hat. I've been finding "I just do perl" to be a pretty good defense against people who want me to work on their cousin's software problems. From george at metaart.org Thu May 3 23:09:33 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 23:09:33 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Useful Modules In-Reply-To: <13781.207.69.248.187.1178164363.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> References: <200705021942.58858.george@metaart.org> <13781.207.69.248.187.1178164363.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> Message-ID: <200705032309.33422.george@metaart.org> Hi Steve, Oh good, you like the idea. Ah, you have a number of modules you favor. Sounds promising for a meeting. Skoal, George On Wednesday 02 May 2007 20:52, skolupae at sonic.net wrote: > Great topic. Especially if everyone brings a short .txt or .html of > his/her liked modules. I'd volunteer to collect them into a .html for > the > Oakland.pm website. > > I have a few. Like Cwd, Carp, IO::File, Data::Dumper, File::Path. They > are a big help for basic file-system crawling and string manipulation. > > I might be able to find basic CGI.pm usage in my archives from the biotech > days. > > Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland From george at metaart.org Thu May 3 23:11:33 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 23:11:33 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Useful Modules In-Reply-To: <20070503054436.GC39448@fu.funkspiel.org> References: <200705021942.58858.george@metaart.org> <20070503054436.GC39448@fu.funkspiel.org> Message-ID: <200705032311.33075.george@metaart.org> Hi Quinn, Oh good, you're up for speaking. I'll let you know where and when once I've arranged that. It will likely be on a 2nd Saturday starting at 1pm. I look forward to hearing about some of your useful/favored modules. The weird module you mention in your PS intrigues me. I hope to hear some about that one too. Skoal, George On Wednesday 02 May 2007 22:44, Quinn Weaver wrote: > On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 07:42:58PM -0700, George Woolley wrote: > > Hi All, > > A couple of people have expressed interest > > in what modules people find useful. > > > > Do you think "Useful Modules" > > would be a good theme for a meeting? > > Would you be likely to come to such a meeting? > > Would you be likely to talk a little about a module(s) > > you've found useful? > > I'm up for speaking. My frequently used modules include log4perl > and Getopt::Declare. I'm rather fond of Perl6::Export::Attrs too, > for those rare cases where I'm actually exporting (as opposed to > coding OO). I'll probably think of more later. > > PS: Getopt::Declare is a weird one. It's kind of a Damian thought > experiment gone horribly wrong, or horribly right, depending on how > you look at it... but it's definitely an instructive experiment to do. From george at metaart.org Thu May 3 23:11:48 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 23:11:48 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Useful Modules In-Reply-To: <20070503054443.GD39448@fu.funkspiel.org> References: <200705021942.58858.george@metaart.org> <13781.207.69.248.187.1178164363.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net> <20070503054443.GD39448@fu.funkspiel.org> Message-ID: <200705032311.48207.george@metaart.org> Hi Quinn: Interesting observations. Thanks. -- George On Wednesday 02 May 2007 22:44, Quinn Weaver wrote: > On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 08:52:43PM -0700, skolupae at sonic.net wrote: > > Great topic. Especially if everyone brings a short .txt or .html of > > his/her liked modules. I'd volunteer to collect them into a .html for > > the > > Oakland.pm website. > > > > I have a few. Like Cwd, Carp, IO::File, Data::Dumper, File::Path. > > They are a big help for basic file-system crawling and string > > manipulation. > > > > I might be able to find basic CGI.pm usage in my archives from the > > biotech days. > > Hmmn, I personally wouldn't teach that to newbies. In my opinion, > CGI.pm is one of those technologies whose time has come and gone. New > people should be learning a templating language instead, like TT or Mason. > > It's just so much nicer to have HTML with a few funky tags, rather > than a bunch of calls insider a Perl program... particularly if you're > working with a graphic designer who's supposed to code the XHTML/CSS. > > Not a new observation--just restating the conventional wisdom. :) > > PS: It's interesting that all the modules you named as most useful are > now Perl core modules. I guess they made the right decision to include > them. From george at metaart.org Fri May 4 21:39:59 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 21:39:59 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Dot-Org Booth at LinuxWorld? In-Reply-To: <200705031434.l43EY7rE088763@kzsu.stanford.edu> References: <200705021954.36294.george@metaart.org> <200705031434.l43EY7rE088763@kzsu.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <200705042139.59466.george@metaart.org> Hi Joe, On Thursday 03 May 2007 07:34, Joe Brenner wrote: > George Woolley wrote: > > Do you think it's a good idea for the local Perl Mongers groups > > to have a dot-org booth at LinuxWorld? > > Yes, a very good idea. I'm glad you like the idea. > The next subject though would be what is the > general shtick. I'd suggest CPAN activity stats, upcoming features > in 5.10, and so on. You raise an important question and give a couple of interesting possible answers. Thanks. > > > Would you be likely to be willing to be > > one of the people at the booth for several hours? > > Sure. Oh good, you are willing to be one of the people at the booth for several hours. Thanks! > > If you can get them to put it right next to the Postgresql guys > that'd make it easier to get coverage. Thanks for the suggestion. Skoal, George From george at metaart.org Sat May 5 19:07:52 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 19:07:52 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Useful Modules Meeting Message-ID: <200705051907.52301.george@metaart.org> Hi All, Several people have expressed an interest in learning more about what modules others find useful. So I've arranged a meeting on that topic: Date: Saturday, September 8 Time: 1-3pm Place: Arden Schaeffer's house in Berkeley George == September Calendar george3 at linux:~> cal 09 2007 ? ?September 2007 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?1 ?2 ?3 ?4 ?5 ?6 ?7 ?8 ?9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 Note: The calendar makes more sense if viewed in a fixed font. From george at metaart.org Tue May 8 18:32:12 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 18:32:12 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Interesting Article: "Ruby and Women" Message-ID: <200705081832.12415.george@metaart.org> Link: http://www.oreillynet.com/ruby/blog/2007/05/ ruby_and_women.html?ref=most_discussed Hi All, This article (a blog entry actually) was mentioned in the O'Reilly Network Newsletter. I found the article and the comments following it engaging. Very few women have attended Oakland Perl Monger's meetings. Three women who have been involved in the group have mentioned to me that they'd feel more comfortable at meetings if more women attended. A long time ago, we did have three women at one monthly meeting (once), but it wasn't a very friendly meeting for reasons I prefer not to go into. As far as I know none of the women ever came to another monthly meeting. 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Sep. 8 time: 1pm-3pm topic: "Modules People Find Useful" December social meeting: date: Sat. Dec. 8 time: 1pm-3pm theme: Holiday Giveaways From tony at technicon.com Mon May 21 12:38:40 2007 From: tony at technicon.com (Anthony Mirante) Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 12:38:40 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] JOB: Perl consultant needed Message-ID: <278E86C2FF57AE45A3FD6B71E07C45D5131AB7@mail.technicon.com> Hi, We are looking for a Perl consultant experienced with Unicode. Here is the short description of what we are looking for: We have a bunch of Excel spreadsheets that have product catalog information. These documents include a number of wide characters which represent fractions, degrees, etc. We would like to define a set of rules to convert the wide characters to numbers and to strip out certain symbols such as degrees. Please shoot me an email if you are interested. Thanks. Tony Mirante TechniCon e: tony at technicon.com w: www.technicon.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20070521/335fcc82/attachment.html From david at fetter.org Mon May 21 14:19:53 2007 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:19:53 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] PostgreSQL Meeting: Sourceforge Infrastructure Message-ID: <20070521211953.GC28235@fetter.org> Folks, Find out how Sourceforge does it. What: Sourceforge Infrastructure When: Tuesday, May 22 at 7:30PM Who: You, if you like :) Where: Casa Donde 2500B Magnolia Street Oakland CA 94607-2410 +1 415 235 3778 Event Description: Ross Turk of Sourceforge http://sf.net/ will discuss Sourceforge's infrastructure including how PostgreSQL makes the whole thing work. You *will* get lost if you do not print the following URL and bring it with you. http://casadonde.org/ RSVP: ASAP so you can eat Zachary's Pizza. If you have dietary preferences, your reply is a great place to tell me about them. See you tomorrow :) Cheers, David. -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! Consider donating to PostgreSQL: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From george at metaart.org Tue May 22 19:13:49 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 19:13:49 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Usenix Priority Code for Discount Message-ID: <200705221913.49506.george@metaart.org> Hi all, Members of our group are eligible for a $100 discount for Usenix '07. There is a priority code that you can use to get the discount. If anyone is interested in that, let me know and I'll send you the priority code. George From mrussell at ebay.com Wed May 23 09:57:59 2007 From: mrussell at ebay.com (Russell, Meredith) Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:57:59 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Job Opportunity at eBay/Rent.com Message-ID: <4486431D7CBF54499FDB182CC8E869811D829A@RHV-EXM-02.corp.ebay.com> Hi, I wanted to spread the word about a few perl developer opportunities at rent.com in Santa Monica. Please see the details below and send me your resume if you're interested or know of anyone looking for a new opportunity. Thanks! Meredith Rent.com is a 7 year old company that is the leading online apartment rental listing service. We are owned by eBay and headquartered in a beautiful Santa Monica class A office complex. With fewer than 100 employees we are light on bureaucracy and operate nimbly, and benefit from the tremendous resources of eBay. Rent.com's Engineering Team is seeking a talented Senior Software Engineer to join us! We are looking for someone who is interested in making a big impact as part of a small, dynamic team and is looking to have broad responsibilities. Primary Job Responsibilities: We are looking for someone who can use Perl as a serious high level programming language in large, complex, high performance applications. We love Perl and so should you. Required skills: * BS in Computer Science, Engineering, Math or equivalent. * 7+ years of relevant work experience. * Solid knowledge of Perl/mod_perl * Proficient in SQL and schema design * Proficient in Object Oriented design and development * Comfortable in Linux/Unix environment * Web technologies including HTTP/HTML/XML * Experience in version control (CVS/Subversion) * Good communication skills * Able to work effectively alone and as part of a team Desired skills: * HTML::Mason experience * Javascript/Ajax frameworks * Experience with open source software * Experience with other high level languages like Java, C/C++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20070523/712bf5ef/attachment.html From george at metaart.org Wed May 23 21:26:14 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 21:26:14 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Dot-Org Booth at LinuxWorld? Message-ID: <200705232126.14140.george@metaart.org> Hi All, So far the only responses I've gotten to my two questions, re this, of early this month (See May 2 email included below) have been from people who I believe are primarily SanFrancisco.pm members. For the moment, I'm thinking the group just doesn't wish to participate in this endeavor. You are welcome to communicate with me in the next few days to shift my point of view. Skoal, George ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Dot-Org Booth at LinuxWorld? Date: Wednesday 02 May 2007 19:54 From: George Woolley To: Oakland Perl Mongers Hi All, Do you think it's a good idea for the local Perl Mongers groups to have a dot-org booth at LinuxWorld? Would you be likely to be willing to be one of the people at the booth for several hours? Skoal, George ------------------------------------------------------- From george at metaart.org Thu May 24 11:58:35 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 11:58:35 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Interesting Perl 6 Article Message-ID: <200705241158.35948.george@metaart.org> Link: http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2007/05/10/everyday-perl-6.html Hi All, The link is to a Perl 6 article that looks good to me. I especially like the many side by comparisons of Perl 5 and Perl 6 syntax. A simple example follows (which likely teaches you nothing new about Perl 6): # Perl 6 # Perl 5 my $third = @array[2]; my $third = $array[2]; my $beta = %hash{'beta'}; my $beta = $hash{'beta'}; (The example is best viewed in a fixed font.) However, I'm skeptical of the first sentence in the article: "Perl 6 will soon be here." The author apparently thinks "Christmas 2007", however he also says he could be wrong. Personally, I'd be happy with Christmas 2010 or anytime before that. If someone wishes to review this article, that would be cool. :) Unfortunately I have nothing concrete to offer for doing that :( George From david at fetter.org Sun May 27 12:04:05 2007 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 12:04:05 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Useful Modules Meeting In-Reply-To: <200705051907.52301.george@metaart.org> References: <200705051907.52301.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <20070527190405.GA19247@fetter.org> On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 07:07:52PM -0700, George Woolley wrote: > Hi All, > Several people have expressed an interest > in learning more about what modules others find useful. > So I've arranged a meeting on that topic: > Date: Saturday, September 8 > Time: 1-3pm > Place: Arden Schaeffer's house in Berkeley Folks, Arden's house is unlikely to be available, as he has passed on. Rest in peace. As usual, Casa Donde is available for Oakland Perl Mongers meetings, subject to my being in town. At this time, I have no plans to be out of town that day. Cheers, David. > George > > == September Calendar > george3 at linux:~> cal 09 2007 > ? ?September 2007 > Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?1 > ?2 ?3 ?4 ?5 ?6 ?7 ?8 > ?9 10 11 12 13 14 15 > 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 > 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 > 30 > > Note: The calendar makes more sense > if viewed in a fixed font. > > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! Consider donating to PostgreSQL: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From george at metaart.org Sun May 27 14:41:03 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 14:41:03 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Useful Modules Meeting In-Reply-To: <20070527190405.GA19247@fetter.org> References: <200705051907.52301.george@metaart.org> <20070527190405.GA19247@fetter.org> Message-ID: <200705271441.03936.george@metaart.org> Hi All, As far as I can tell from talking to him (since David's post), Arden is very much alive. The plan remains to have the meeting at Arden's house. Skoal, George Hi David, Thanks for being concerned about the whereabouts of the meeting. Do you have some reason for thinking Arden has passed on. I ask because I talked to him on the phone after receiving your post. He seemed somewhat amused at the news that he had passed on. Skoal, George On Sunday 27 May 2007 12:04, David Fetter wrote: > On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 07:07:52PM -0700, George Woolley wrote: > > Hi All, > > Several people have expressed an interest > > in learning more about what modules others find useful. > > So I've arranged a meeting on that topic: > > Date: Saturday, September 8 > > Time: 1-3pm > > Place: Arden Schaeffer's house in Berkeley > > Folks, > > Arden's house is unlikely to be available, as he has passed on. > Rest in peace. > > As usual, Casa Donde is available for Oakland > Perl Mongers meetings, subject to my being in town. At this time, I > have no plans to be out of town that day. > > Cheers, > David. > > > George > > > > == September Calendar > > george3 at linux:~> cal 09 2007 > > ? ?September 2007 > > Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?1 > > ?2 ?3 ?4 ?5 ?6 ?7 ?8 > > ?9 10 11 12 13 14 15 > > 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 > > 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 > > 30 > > > > Note: The calendar makes more sense > > if viewed in a fixed font. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Oakland mailing list > > Oakland at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland From david at fetter.org Sun May 27 14:41:43 2007 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 14:41:43 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Useful Modules Meeting In-Reply-To: <200705271441.03936.george@metaart.org> References: <200705051907.52301.george@metaart.org> <20070527190405.GA19247@fetter.org> <200705271441.03936.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <20070527214143.GE19247@fetter.org> On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 02:41:03PM -0700, George Woolley wrote: > Hi All, > As far as I can tell from talking to him (since David's post), > Arden is very much alive. > The plan remains to have the meeting at Arden's house. > Skoal, > George > > Hi David, > Thanks for being concerned > about the whereabouts of the meeting. > > Do you have some reason for thinking Arden has passed on. > I ask because I talked to him on the phone > after receiving your post. > He seemed somewhat amused > at the news that he had passed on. Oops. Well, color me idiotic. I trusted a source nearby :P Sorry, Arden. Cheers, D > > Skoal, > George > > On Sunday 27 May 2007 12:04, David Fetter wrote: > > On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 07:07:52PM -0700, George Woolley wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > Several people have expressed an interest > > > in learning more about what modules others find useful. > > > So I've arranged a meeting on that topic: > > > Date: Saturday, September 8 > > > Time: 1-3pm > > > Place: Arden Schaeffer's house in Berkeley > > > > Folks, > > > > Arden's house is unlikely to be available, as he has passed on. > > Rest in peace. > > > > As usual, Casa Donde is available for Oakland > > Perl Mongers meetings, subject to my being in town. At this time, I > > have no plans to be out of town that day. > > > > Cheers, > > David. > > > > > George > > > > > > == September Calendar > > > george3 at linux:~> cal 09 2007 > > > ? ?September 2007 > > > Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa > > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?1 > > > ?2 ?3 ?4 ?5 ?6 ?7 ?8 > > > ?9 10 11 12 13 14 15 > > > 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 > > > 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 > > > 30 > > > > > > Note: The calendar makes more sense > > > if viewed in a fixed font. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Oakland mailing list > > > Oakland at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland > > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! Consider donating to PostgreSQL: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From extasia at extasia.org Sun May 27 15:18:23 2007 From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 15:18:23 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Useful Modules Meeting In-Reply-To: <200705271441.03936.george@metaart.org> References: <200705051907.52301.george@metaart.org> <20070527190405.GA19247@fetter.org> <200705271441.03936.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <4c714a9c0705271518r683828c1k2039562b8ce36215@mail.gmail.com> No doubt this is a publicity stunt by Arden's rock group to sell records. On 5/27/07, George Woolley wrote: > As far as I can tell from talking to him (since David's post), > Arden is very much alive. > The plan remains to have the meeting at Arden's house. -- Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. From george at metaart.org Sun May 27 19:02:21 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:02:21 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Useful Modules Meeting In-Reply-To: <4c714a9c0705271518r683828c1k2039562b8ce36215@mail.gmail.com> References: <200705051907.52301.george@metaart.org> <200705271441.03936.george@metaart.org> <4c714a9c0705271518r683828c1k2039562b8ce36215@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200705271902.21056.george@metaart.org> No doubt. On Sunday 27 May 2007 15:18, David Alban wrote: > No doubt this is a publicity stunt by Arden's rock group to sell records. > > On 5/27/07, George Woolley wrote: > > As far as I can tell from talking to him (since David's post), > > Arden is very much alive. > > The plan remains to have the meeting at Arden's house.