From george at metaart.org Sun Jun 3 20:04:54 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 20:04:54 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Draft of Review of "Devices of the Soul" Message-ID: <200706032004.54993.george@metaart.org> Link for Review: http://www.metaart.org/opug/reviews/devices.html Hi All, I put a draft of a review of "Devices of the Soul" on our site. See the link above for where it is. I had a serious injury which makes many things take ridiculously long. Hence I'd greatly appreciate one or two people looking over the review and sending me comments about what you think really really needs to change. Skoal, George From cba at groundworkopensource.com Mon Jun 4 16:32:34 2007 From: cba at groundworkopensource.com (Chris Barton Anderson) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:32:34 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] BayLISA Monitoring SIG: Weds June 13, 7PM Message-ID: <1180999955.32028.2.camel@peterX20> (Hi: You're invited to the BayLISA Monitoring SIG, Weds June 13, 7PM. See the meeting announcement pasted below: feel free to post it and/ or forward it along to anyone else who might be interested. Hope to see you there!) ================================================= June 2007 BayLISA Monitoring SIG: Nagios Configuration Made Easy Taylor Dondich, project lead for the popular Nagios administration tool Fruity (http://fruity.sourceforge.net/) will present on using and taming Nagios. (Taylor's also the author of the O'Reilly .pdf "Network Monitoring with Nagios.": (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/ networknagios/)) We'll use Taylor's presentation as a launching point for a free-flowing discussion on successful deployment of Nagios. What: BayLISA Monitoring SIG VIII: Nagios Configuration Made Easy Who: Anyone interested in IT monitoring issues and tools (newbies particularly welcome!) When: Wednesday, June 13 2007, 7PM Where: GroundWork Open Source, 139 Townsend St., San Francisco, http://www.groundworkopensource.com/community/ How: 139 Townsend St. is very near AT&T Park. It is two blocks from the CalTrain Depot. Take the MUNI T (or J) trolley to 2nd and King (ballpark stop) or take the 30 or 45 bus (among others) crosstown. Free evening street parking can probably be found because the Giants are playing an afternoon game that day (vs. Toronto, 12:35 start) and it should be over by the time the SIG starts. Cost: Free!! Hot from the oven pizza, cold from the fridge drinks, and chemically preserved from the factory snacks will be provided by GroundWork. We'll open up the doors at 6:30 or so and start the formal part of the meeting promptly at 7PM. RSVP (not necessary, but helpful): Peter Mui, pmui at groundworkopensource.com, 415 992 4573 ================================================= From george at metaart.org Fri Jun 8 11:02:46 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:02:46 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Fwd: [pm_groups] TPF boot at OSCON Message-ID: <200706081102.46610.george@metaart.org> ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [pm_groups] TPF boot at OSCON Date: Friday 08 June 2007 10:55 From: "David H. Adler" To: PM Group list The Perl Foundation is looking for volunteers to man (or woman) our booth at OSCON. If any of your members are attending OSCON and would like to volunteer, they can send an email to volunteer at perlfoundation.org. Thanks! dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ -- Request pm.org Technical Support via support at pm.org pm_groups mailing list pm_groups at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups ------------------------------------------------------- From quinn at fairpath.com Mon Jun 11 21:30:07 2007 From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:30:07 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] LinuxWorld plans Message-ID: <20070612043007.GA49350@fu.funkspiel.org> So... We're short at least two volunteers from the minimum of five that we need. Oakland.pm (who were originally going to apply for the the booth) have pulled out due to lack of volunteers. Also, their leader, George, recently suffered an injury. And LinuxWorld starts August 6. At this point our best bet is to pool our resources with the SF PostgreSQL Users' Group. Josh Berkus has already made the offer: they have the booth, they like Perl, and they could use some more volunteers. They even have a dinner planned for Tuesday. Who's in for this revised plan? I'll be there. Anyone else? -- Quinn Weaver, independent contractor | President, San Francisco Perl Mongers http://fairpath.com/quinn/resume/ | http://sf.pm.org/ 510-520-5217 From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Mon Jun 11 22:12:48 2007 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:12:48 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] [sf-perl] LinuxWorld plans In-Reply-To: <20070612043007.GA49350@fu.funkspiel.org> References: <20070612043007.GA49350@fu.funkspiel.org> Message-ID: <200706120512.l5C5Cm6j064830@kzsu.stanford.edu> Quinn Weaver wrote: > At this point our best bet is to pool our resources with the SF > PostgreSQL Users' Group. Josh Berkus has already made the offer: they > have the booth, they like Perl, and they could use some more > volunteers. They even have a dinner planned for Tuesday. > > Who's in for this revised plan? I'll be there. Anyone else? Sounds good. From george at metaart.org Tue Jun 12 10:17:38 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:17:38 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] LinuxWorld plans In-Reply-To: <20070612043007.GA49350@fu.funkspiel.org> References: <20070612043007.GA49350@fu.funkspiel.org> Message-ID: <200706121017.38315.george@metaart.org> hi quinn, oh good, you are picking up on the linux booth idea :) that i didn't get to work. :( best wishes on this venture. skoal, george p.s. you are right: i did suffer an injury. i broke my clavicle. :( -------------------------------------------- On Monday 11 June 2007 21:30, Quinn Weaver wrote: > So... > > We're short at least two volunteers from the minimum of five that we > need. Oakland.pm (who were originally going to apply for the the > booth) have pulled out due to lack of volunteers. Also, their leader, > George, recently suffered an injury. And LinuxWorld starts August 6. > > At this point our best bet is to pool our resources with the SF > PostgreSQL Users' Group. Josh Berkus has already made the offer: they > have the booth, they like Perl, and they could use some more > volunteers. They even have a dinner planned for Tuesday. > > Who's in for this revised plan? I'll be there. Anyone else? From quinn at fairpath.com Tue Jun 12 13:56:39 2007 From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:56:39 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] [sf-perl] LinuxWorld plans In-Reply-To: <200706121330.04378.josh@agliodbs.com> References: <20070612043007.GA49350@fu.funkspiel.org> <200706120512.l5C5Cm6j064830@kzsu.stanford.edu> <200706121330.04378.josh@agliodbs.com> Message-ID: <20070612205639.GB58181@fu.funkspiel.org> On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 01:30:04PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > Quinn, Joe, > > > > Who's in for this revised plan? I'll be there. Anyone else? > > > > Sounds good. > > Can I count this as a commitment? Fred and I can do double duty as well. Yes, I'll commit. Also, Matt Lanier has confirmed his interest (expressed earlier). > Anyway, some of us will discuss this at SFPUG tonight. I'll be there. -- Quinn Weaver, independent contractor | President, San Francisco Perl Mongers http://fairpath.com/quinn/resume/ | http://sf.pm.org/ 510-520-5217 From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Wed Jun 13 10:46:31 2007 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:46:31 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] [sf-perl] LinuxWorld plans In-Reply-To: <200706121330.04378.josh@agliodbs.com> References: <20070612043007.GA49350@fu.funkspiel.org> <200706120512.l5C5Cm6j064830@kzsu.stanford.edu> <200706121330.04378.josh@agliodbs.com> Message-ID: <200706131746.l5DHkVUv013111@kzsu.stanford.edu> Josh Berkus wrote: > > > Who's in for this revised plan? I'll be there. Anyone else? > > > > Sounds good. > > Can I count this as a commitment? Fred and I can do double duty as well. Oh sure. And while I'm not sure I qualify as a postgresql expert, I'm definitely enthusiastic about it. From george at metaart.org Fri Jun 15 13:41:19 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:41:19 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Fwd: Senior Software Engineer (Perl Programmer) Message-ID: <200706151341.19413.george@metaart.org> ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Senior Software Engineer (Perl Programmer) Date: Friday 15 June 2007 09:03 ... Name of Sender: David Raffinengo Email address: david at pierpoint.com ... == job Below is a brief description of the position. 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Below my "signature" is more info on the book including the URL of the O'Reilly online Catalog Entry for the book. The Catalog Entry provides such info as: * link to table of contents * link to index * link to sample chapter * description of book * reviews Thanks to everyone who suggested a book or picked up a book. It was gratifying to receive so many suggestions and I'm happy that I've given away 5 of the 6 books so far, including one book I didn't request. Skoal, George == More Info on the Book Title: Perl Best Practices Author: Damian Conway Edition: First Publication Month: July 2005 ISBN 10: 0-596-00173-8 ISBN 13: 9780596001735 Pages: 542 Catalog Entry URL: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlbp/ From judyrussoniello at yahoo.com Wed Jun 20 09:49:17 2007 From: judyrussoniello at yahoo.com (Judy Russoniello) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] 6 Book Giveaways [i still have 1 to give away.] In-Reply-To: <200706191757.58128.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <837205.41130.qm@web51806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> hi george, why don't you give it to oaklandrecycleables..........only a suggestion. bye judy --- George Woolley wrote: > Hi All, > I still have the following book to give away: > * Perl Best Practices > > Let me know if you want this book. > The deal is you need to be willing to pick the book > up > at my place in Oakland at an agreed upon time. > Otherwise, there are no strings attached -- > except the book is not intended for resale. > If more than one person wants this book, > I'll figure out what to do when that happens. > > Below my "signature" is more info on the book > including the URL of the O'Reilly online Catalog > Entry > for the book. > The Catalog Entry provides such info as: > * link to table of contents > * link to index > * link to sample chapter > * description of book > * reviews > > Thanks to everyone who suggested a book or picked up > a book. > It was gratifying to receive so many suggestions > and I'm happy that I've given away 5 of the 6 books > so far, > including one book I didn't request. > > Skoal, > George > > == More Info on the Book > > Title: Perl Best Practices > Author: Damian Conway > Edition: First > Publication Month: July 2005 > ISBN 10: 0-596-00173-8 > ISBN 13: 9780596001735 > Pages: 542 > Catalog Entry URL: > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlbp/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 From extasia at extasia.org Wed Jun 20 11:50:14 2007 From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:50:14 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] 6 Book Giveaways [i still have 1 to give away.] In-Reply-To: <837205.41130.qm@web51806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <200706191757.58128.george@metaart.org> <837205.41130.qm@web51806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4c714a9c0706201150x640a111dw59540579099929ee@mail.gmail.com> Hmmm... IMHO it *needs* to end up in the hands of a perl programmer. It may be the best perl book I've ever bought (well, besides _programming_perl_). It describes lots of techniques that would make the world much better! On 6/20/07, Judy Russoniello wrote: > hi george, why don't you give it to > oaklandrecycleables..........only a suggestion. > bye judy > --- George Woolley wrote: > > > Hi All, > > I still have the following book to give away: > > * Perl Best Practices -- Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. From george at metaart.org Wed Jun 20 12:13:52 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:13:52 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] 6 Book Giveaways [i still have 1 to give away.] In-Reply-To: <837205.41130.qm@web51806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <837205.41130.qm@web51806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200706201213.52877.george@metaart.org> hi judy, thanks for the suggestion. i think i want to see if i can give this book to a known perl progrmmer as suggested by david alban's email (however, there will be other books in the future). i'm not familiar with oaklandrecycleables; could you say a little more or provide a link? peace, george -------------------------------------- On Wednesday 20 June 2007 09:49, Judy Russoniello wrote: > hi george, why don't you give it to > oaklandrecycleables..........only a suggestion. > bye judy > > --- George Woolley wrote: > > Hi All, > > I still have the following book to give away: > > * Perl Best Practices > > > > Let me know if you want this book. > > The deal is you need to be willing to pick the book > > up > > at my place in Oakland at an agreed upon time. > > Otherwise, there are no strings attached -- > > except the book is not intended for resale. > > If more than one person wants this book, > > I'll figure out what to do when that happens. > > > > Below my "signature" is more info on the book > > including the URL of the O'Reilly online Catalog > > Entry > > for the book. > > The Catalog Entry provides such info as: > > * link to table of contents > > * link to index > > * link to sample chapter > > * description of book > > * reviews > > > > Thanks to everyone who suggested a book or picked up > > a book. > > It was gratifying to receive so many suggestions > > and I'm happy that I've given away 5 of the 6 books > > so far, > > including one book I didn't request. > > > > Skoal, > > George > > > > == More Info on the Book > > > > Title: Perl Best Practices > > Author: Damian Conway > > Edition: First > > Publication Month: July 2005 > > ISBN 10: 0-596-00173-8 > > ISBN 13: 9780596001735 > > Pages: 542 > > Catalog Entry URL: > > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlbp/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Oakland mailing list > > Oakland at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >_________ Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! > Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland From george at metaart.org Wed Jun 20 12:24:23 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:24:23 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] 6 Book Giveaways [i still have 1 to give away.] In-Reply-To: <4c714a9c0706201150x640a111dw59540579099929ee@mail.gmail.com> References: <200706191757.58128.george@metaart.org> <837205.41130.qm@web51806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4c714a9c0706201150x640a111dw59540579099929ee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200706201224.23798.george@metaart.org> hi david, thanks for the very clear opinion. i think i'll see if i can find a perl programmer to give the book to as you suggest. i've requested more info on oaklandrecycleables for the future though. skoal, george On Wednesday 20 June 2007 11:50, David Alban wrote: > Hmmm... IMHO it *needs* to end up in the hands of a perl programmer. > It may be the best perl book I've ever bought (well, besides > _programming_perl_). It describes lots of techniques that would make > the world much better! > > On 6/20/07, Judy Russoniello wrote: > > hi george, why don't you give it to > > oaklandrecycleables..........only a suggestion. > > bye judy > > > > --- George Woolley wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > I still have the following book to give away: > > > * Perl Best Practices From judyrussoniello at yahoo.com Wed Jun 20 13:04:57 2007 From: judyrussoniello at yahoo.com (Judy Russoniello) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] 6 Book Giveaways [i still have 1 to give away.] In-Reply-To: <200706201213.52877.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <500676.24899.qm@web51802.mail.re2.yahoo.com> greetings, can't believe that one lives in Oakland and does not know about oaklandrecycleables......well they have a wevsite just stick the 3 w's in front and there you go off to lobivion paz --- George Woolley wrote: > hi judy, > > thanks for the suggestion. > i think i want to see if i can give this book to a > known perl progrmmer > as suggested by david alban's email > (however, there will be other books in the future). > > i'm not familiar with oaklandrecycleables; > could you say a little more or provide a link? > > peace, > george > > -------------------------------------- > On Wednesday 20 June 2007 09:49, Judy Russoniello > wrote: > > hi george, why don't you give it to > > oaklandrecycleables..........only a suggestion. > > bye judy > > > > --- George Woolley wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > I still have the following book to give away: > > > * Perl Best Practices > > > > > > Let me know if you want this book. > > > The deal is you need to be willing to pick the > book > > > up > > > at my place in Oakland at an agreed upon time. > > > Otherwise, there are no strings attached -- > > > except the book is not intended for resale. > > > If more than one person wants this book, > > > I'll figure out what to do when that happens. > > > > > > Below my "signature" is more info on the book > > > including the URL of the O'Reilly online Catalog > > > Entry > > > for the book. > > > The Catalog Entry provides such info as: > > > * link to table of contents > > > * link to index > > > * link to sample chapter > > > * description of book > > > * reviews > > > > > > Thanks to everyone who suggested a book or > picked up > > > a book. > > > It was gratifying to receive so many suggestions > > > and I'm happy that I've given away 5 of the 6 > books > > > so far, > > > including one book I didn't request. > > > > > > Skoal, > > > George > > > > > > == More Info on the Book > > > > > > Title: Perl Best Practices > > > Author: Damian Conway > > > Edition: First > > > Publication Month: July 2005 > > > ISBN 10: 0-596-00173-8 > > > ISBN 13: 9780596001735 > > > Pages: 542 > > > Catalog Entry URL: > > > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlbp/ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Oakland mailing list > > > Oakland at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > >_________ Be a PS3 game guru. > > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and > previews at Yahoo! > > Games. > http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 > > _______________________________________________ > > Oakland mailing list > > Oakland at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland > > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 From judyrussoniello at yahoo.com Wed Jun 20 13:17:39 2007 From: judyrussoniello at yahoo.com (Judy Russoniello) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] 6 Book Giveaways [i still have 1 to give away.] In-Reply-To: <200706201213.52877.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <863128.47963.qm@web51806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> greetings george, sorry for the misinformation it is www.oaklandfreecycle it is a very helpful site for anyone who wants to offer or request their goods..............paz judy --- George Woolley wrote: > hi judy, > > thanks for the suggestion. > i think i want to see if i can give this book to a > known perl progrmmer > as suggested by david alban's email > (however, there will be other books in the future). > > i'm not familiar with oaklandrecycleables; > could you say a little more or provide a link? > > peace, > george > > -------------------------------------- > On Wednesday 20 June 2007 09:49, Judy Russoniello > wrote: > > hi george, why don't you give it to > > oaklandrecycleables..........only a suggestion. > > bye judy > > > > --- George Woolley wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > I still have the following book to give away: > > > * Perl Best Practices > > > > > > Let me know if you want this book. > > > The deal is you need to be willing to pick the > book > > > up > > > at my place in Oakland at an agreed upon time. > > > Otherwise, there are no strings attached -- > > > except the book is not intended for resale. > > > If more than one person wants this book, > > > I'll figure out what to do when that happens. > > > > > > Below my "signature" is more info on the book > > > including the URL of the O'Reilly online Catalog > > > Entry > > > for the book. > > > The Catalog Entry provides such info as: > > > * link to table of contents > > > * link to index > > > * link to sample chapter > > > * description of book > > > * reviews > > > > > > Thanks to everyone who suggested a book or > picked up > > > a book. > > > It was gratifying to receive so many suggestions > > > and I'm happy that I've given away 5 of the 6 > books > > > so far, > > > including one book I didn't request. > > > > > > Skoal, > > > George > > > > > > == More Info on the Book > > > > > > Title: Perl Best Practices > > > Author: Damian Conway > > > Edition: First > > > Publication Month: July 2005 > > > ISBN 10: 0-596-00173-8 > > > ISBN 13: 9780596001735 > > > Pages: 542 > > > Catalog Entry URL: > > > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlbp/ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Oakland mailing list > > > Oakland at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > >_________ Be a PS3 game guru. > > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and > previews at Yahoo! > > Games. > http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 > > _______________________________________________ > > Oakland mailing list > > Oakland at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland > > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 From mtheo at amural.com Wed Jun 20 13:40:24 2007 From: mtheo at amural.com (Mark Theodoropoulos) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:40:24 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] 6 Book Giveaways [i still have 1 to give away.] In-Reply-To: <4c714a9c0706201150x640a111dw59540579099929ee@mail.gmail.com> References: <200706191757.58128.george@metaart.org> <837205.41130.qm@web51806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4c714a9c0706201150x640a111dw59540579099929ee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <467990B8.3020202@amural.com> Thus David Alban: > Hmmm... IMHO it *needs* to end up in the hands of a perl programmer. > It may be the best perl book I've ever bought (well, besides > _programming_perl_). It describes lots of techniques that would make > the world much better! I would like to offer an urgent second to this. My hope would be that it's gone unclaimed because everyone reading this list already has a copy; but if you're without one, grab it. There are some great Perl books out there, but _Perl best practices_ should definitely be your Perl book #2 right after the Camel (or #3 after whatever you used to learn Perl and the Camel). The only complaints I've encountered about it have come from those who for some reason ignore Damian's exceptionally clear explanation of how he hopes the book will be used. Two thumbs up. Plus eight fingers, ten toes, and any other available uppable appendage. mtheo -- producer / classics without walls the anti-warhorse zone / www.amural.com kusf 90.3fm / san francisco From george at metaart.org Tue Jun 26 12:42:50 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:42:50 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Perl 6 Release? Message-ID: <200706261242.50260.george@metaart.org> Link: http://www.gardenofblog.com/2007/yapcna-2007/ "... I can?t do his [Larry Wall's] whole keynote justice here, other than to pass on that he announced Perl 6 would be released this Christmas." -- Marcus Del Greco in a blog entry hi all, has anyone else read anything like this? -- george From mattj at 3am-software.com Tue Jun 26 20:27:08 2007 From: mattj at 3am-software.com (Matt Johnson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:27:08 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Perl 6 Release? In-Reply-To: <200706261242.50260.george@metaart.org> References: <200706261242.50260.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <5F2294C5-91EC-44A4-BE78-B2AE0E60FB8D@3am-software.com> Hi George, they have been saying for a log time that perl 6 would be released by Christmas. Last I heard it was between lunch and Christmas. They have never said what year. Christmas _this_ year? I will believe it when I see it. -- Matt Johnson On Jun 26, 2007, at 12:42 PM, George Woolley wrote: > Link: http://www.gardenofblog.com/2007/yapcna-2007/ > "... I can?t do his [Larry Wall's] whole keynote justice here, > other than to pass on that he announced > Perl 6 would be released this Christmas." > -- Marcus Del Greco in a blog entry > > hi all, > has anyone else read anything like this? > -- george > > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland From george at metaart.org Tue Jun 26 21:16:11 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:16:11 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Perl 6 Release? In-Reply-To: <5F2294C5-91EC-44A4-BE78-B2AE0E60FB8D@3am-software.com> References: <200706261242.50260.george@metaart.org> <5F2294C5-91EC-44A4-BE78-B2AE0E60FB8D@3am-software.com> Message-ID: <200706262116.11766.george@metaart.org> hi matt, thanks for responding. On Tuesday 26 June 2007 20:27, Matt Johnson wrote: > Hi George, they have been saying for a log time that perl 6 would be > released by Christmas. somehow i missed the earlier instances of "by christmas". :( < > Last I heard it was between lunch and > Christmas. They have never said what year. well, that's not very helpful of them. > > Christmas _this_ year? I will believe it when I see it. my thought back near when all this started was: if they get if they get it (perl 6) done by end of year 2010, i'll be happy. now, i'm not at all sure they'll make that. oh, well. > > -- Matt Johnson skoal, george ------------------------------------- > > On Jun 26, 2007, at 12:42 PM, George Woolley wrote: > > Link: http://www.gardenofblog.com/2007/yapcna-2007/ > > "... I can?t do his [Larry Wall's] whole keynote justice here, > > other than to pass on that he announced > > Perl 6 would be released this Christmas." > > -- Marcus Del Greco in a blog entry > > > > hi all, > > has anyone else read anything like this? > > -- george > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Oakland mailing list > > Oakland at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland > > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland From george at metaart.org Thu Jun 28 18:21:29 2007 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:21:29 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Apress User Group Newsletter -- June 2007 Message-ID: <200706281549.20180.george@metaart.org> hi all, you can check out the june apress ug newsletter (if you wish) at http://apress.com/newsletter/67/ skoal, george