[oak perl] Requests for Advise: Perl CGI or PHP?

Eugene eugene at metaart.org
Fri Dec 2 14:15:22 PST 2005


Hi Zed,
Thanks for even more input.

I see your point.
However, I wonder if this isn't overkill
for a simple personal site.

Eugene

On Friday 02 December 2005 10:51, Zed Lopez wrote:
> If you're working in Perl, check out Template Toolkit or
> HTML::Template (the latter is probably a better idea if you're without
> mod_perl -- TT is pretty hefty.)
>
> That way you're neither putting (Perl) code in HTML or HTML in code.
>
> Most web programmers (including me) will tell you that you're doomed
> if you don't use a model-view-controller framework in which you
> separate the presentation code (view), the navigation &
> user/permissions/session management code (controller), and the
> application logic (model). Using a template system enforces the
> separation of view from everything else to a large degree -- it
> becomes more difficult to intermix things in a bad way, so it acts as
> an implicit reminder not to.
>
> It's not that you can't have a good separation with Perl mixed with
> HTML (Mason is one popular Perl web programming framework that does
> just this), but it makes it easy to violate the separation without
> even necessarily noticing you do so.
>
> And it's not that I favor systems that hamstring you in an effort to
> enforce good coding practices (I can rant at length at how tedious and
> annoying I find Python, where that was a major design consideration),
> it's that I haven't felt hamstrung in good template systems -- they do
> a lot for you.
>
> Of course, I've been out of web programming in Perl for over a year
> and there could be some latest, greatest thing I've never heard of.
> I'd be sure to do some research and to check out CGI::Prototype,
> Maypole and Catalyst, for starters if I were to embark on some more.
> (These are more controllers than template engines, or they were last I
> looked.)
>
> Perlmonks.org is a good place to search for info on this (or related
> matters) -- you get a lot of commentary on things from people who've
> been in the trenches.




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