From george at metaart.org  Mon Dec  1 16:28:56 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] December Meeting: Theme
Message-ID: <200312011428.56689.george@metaart.org>

In the spirit of the Christmas season
the theme of our December meeting is.
(Funny I am endeavoring to be.)
The theme is giving and giveaways.

I'm planning to bring various goodies to give away 
including:
* swag from O'Reilly
* some books
* some current computer periodicals
* and more
Thanks to Marsee and O'Reilly for much of this.
At my request, Marsee sent the swag specifically
for this meeting.

If you have something that is excess
that someone in the group might like,
it would be timely and very kool
if you brought it along.
(Hey, it happened last month.)

George


From george at metaart.org  Mon Dec  1 16:30:37 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] December Meeting: Lightning Talks
Message-ID: <200312011430.37068.george@metaart.org>

The theme of the December meeting
is decidely non-technical,
still it would be kool
to have a few Perl related lightning talks.

Given that a lightning talk can be
as short as you want
(and is by agreement no longer than 5 minutes),
perhaps a couple of you will volunteer.

Otherwise, I'll play Alice's Restaurant
as background music all evening long
-- oops, wrong context (wrong millenium too).
Let me try that again,
otherwise you may get to hear
more about some topic I bring up
than you ever wanted to hear.

Anyway, keep the possibility in mind.
Hey, it could be a lightning gripe
or a lightning plea for help.

George

P.S. Hm, perhaps you're not sure
what a lightning talk is,
or perhaps you just want more info about them.
For some of my thoughts see
http://www.metaart.org/maca/perl/lightning/lightning_what.html

If you have thoughts or links to share
re lightning talks,
go for it.



From george at metaart.org  Mon Dec  1 20:15:04 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Ideas for Meetings Next Year!?
Message-ID: <200312011815.04492.george@metaart.org>

OK, earlier I asked for suggestions for next year's meetings.
Here's what I have so far


<list>
re Regexes:
regexes
regex talk + regex therapy session (by Tony Stubblebine)
rules in Perl 6

re Perl Design Principles and Culture:
Language Design Principles
Postmodernism

re Perl (but not included above):
Arrays
Hashes
using Perl for CGI
Perl & XML (possible mini course by AcademyX)
What I Like and Don't Like about Perl

re Other:
Jobs
Giveaways (in December)
</list>


Hm, that would be enough topics for all 12 meetings.
If you have preferences for something different,
speak up,
especially if you are prepared to do something
toward making your suggestion(s) happen.

George

P.S. If I left something off the list,
please remind me.

P.P.S. If you are prepared to help make any of the above happen,
let me know.


From george at metaart.org  Mon Dec  1 22:03:15 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Pearl Harbor Road!?
Message-ID: <200312012003.15797.george@metaart.org>

According to the December meeting announcement 
on the Oakland.pm website,
Robert lives on Pearl Harbor Road.
> where: Robert Kuropkat's place 
> 2845 Pearl Harbor Road, Alameda 

Using reasoning
similar to that used in User Friendly
(see    http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010831   ),
could I conclude
that Robert lives on a street named after a scripting language.

George


From george at metaart.org  Tue Dec  2 18:36:24 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] December Oakland.pm Meeting: Tue. Dec. 9
Message-ID: <200312021636.24093.george@metaart.org>

......................................................
Snip from Oakland.pm website
at   http://oakland.pm.org/
......................................................
Next meeting
when: Tue. Dec. 9 at 7:30-9:30pm. 
   (We meet 2nd Tuesdays.)
where: Robert Kuropkat's place 
   2845 Pearl Harbor Road, Alameda 
directions: See first cut at directions 
theme: Giveaways
what: 
   introductions
   lightning talks
   giveaways
   ...
who: open to anyone interested.
how much: no fee for our meetings.


From george at metaart.org  Thu Dec  4 21:48:26 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Fwd: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, December 4
Message-ID: <200312041948.26783.george@metaart.org>

----------  Forwarded Message  ----------

Subject: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, December 4
Date: Thursday 04 December 2003 6:11 pm
From: Marsee Henon <marsee@oreilly.com>
To: george@metaart.org

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-Free Exhibit Hall Guest Pass for Macworld Conference & Expo,
San Francisco, CA--January 6-9
-iPod as Digital Photographer's Best Friend
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***Animal ASCII Art--Do You Have Some?
If you are an artist with you keyboard, please let me know. I am looking
for ASCII versions of our famous O'Reilly animals. Please send an email
to marsee@oreilly.com with your original rendition.

Until next time--

Marsee

-------------------------------------------------------


From george at metaart.org  Thu Dec  4 22:17:21 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Macworld Conference & Expo Outing?
Message-ID: <200312042017.21588.george@metaart.org>

The latest newsletter provides a priority code
for a free exhibit hall guest pass.

I'd enjoy meeting up with several other people there.
Anyone else want to do that?

george


Snip from Newsletter
.................................

...
---------------------
Mac
---------------------
***Free Exhibit Hall Guest Pass for Macworld Conference & Expo,
San Francisco, CA--January 6-9
Register online by December 8 with Priority code PC0211
http://www.macworldexpo.com
...


From george at metaart.org  Fri Dec  5 04:03:44 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] ASCII O'Reilly Animal Art?
In-Reply-To: <20031112223615.GA20769@bloodrose.nog.net>
References: <20031112223615.GA20769@bloodrose.nog.net>
Message-ID: <200312050203.44308.george@metaart.org>

Tony,
Does Marsee's call for ASCII O'Reilly animal art
interest you at all?
George 

----------  Forwarded Message  ----------

Subject: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, December 4
Date: Thursday 04 December 2003 6:11 pm
From: Marsee Henon <marsee@oreilly.com>
To: george@metaart.org
...
> ***Animal ASCII Art--Do You Have Some?
> If you are an artist with you keyboard, please let me know. I am looking
> for ASCII versions of our famous O'Reilly animals. Please send an email
> to marsee@oreilly.com with your original rendition.


On Wednesday 12 November 2003 2:36 pm, Tony Monroe wrote:
>  ______________________________________
> / I threatened to show you cowsay.  So \
> \ here it is.                          /
>  --------------------------------------
>         \   ^__^
>          \  (oo)\_______
>             (__)\       )\/\
>
>                 ||----w |
>
...


From tony at nog.net  Fri Dec  5 11:14:42 2003
From: tony at nog.net (Tony Monroe)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Re: ASCII O'Reilly Animal Art?
In-Reply-To: <200312050203.44308.george@metaart.org>
References: <20031112223615.GA20769@bloodrose.nog.net>
	<200312050203.44308.george@metaart.org>
Message-ID: <20031205171442.GA77722@bloodrose.nog.net>

Meditate ye upon the words of George Woolley:
>
> Does Marsee's call for ASCII O'Reilly animal art
> interest you at all?

As long as I don't have to draw it. :-)

-- tony
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From george at metaart.org  Sat Dec  6 02:05:15 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Macworld Conference & Expo Outing?
In-Reply-To: <200312042017.21588.george@metaart.org>
References: <200312042017.21588.george@metaart.org>
Message-ID: <200312052255.40328.george@metaart.org>

OK, there are now three people who want to do this.
Anyone else?     <<<-----

Based on the inputs I've gotten,
here's the tentative plan:
* meet at the Conference
? ? ?date: Wednesday, January 7, 2004
? ? ?time: 2pm
? ? ?place: O'Reilly booth (#2143)
* while we're at the O'Reilly booth, 
? ? ?it would be fun to meet David Pogue
? ? who I gather will be there
* follow whoever has a good idea to wherever

On Thursday 04 December 2003 8:17 pm, George Woolley wrote:
> The latest newsletter provides a priority code
> for a free exhibit hall guest pass.
>
> I'd enjoy meeting up with several other people there.
> Anyone else want to do that?
>
> george
>
>
> Snip from Newsletter
> .................................
>
> ...
> ---------------------
> Mac
> ---------------------
> ***Free Exhibit Hall Guest Pass for Macworld Conference & Expo,
> San Francisco, CA--January 6-9
> Register online by December 8 with Priority code PC0211
> http://www.macworldexpo.com
> ...
>
> _______________________________________________
> Oakland mailing list
> Oakland@mail.pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland


From joshnjillwait at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  6 16:07:10 2003
From: joshnjillwait at yahoo.com (Joshua Wait)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Macworld Conference & Expo Outing?
In-Reply-To: <200312051800.hB5I0HK14317@mail.pm.org>
Message-ID: <20031206220710.66315.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com>

So far, I'm planning on going to MacWorld Expo on only
Tuesday. I may go on Wednesday as well, but I will
have to wait and see how my work schedule looks like.
I will most likely be collecting information for my
clients.

--JOSHUA

P.S. Wouldn't be easy to cheat on the ASCII art
submission? There are several free plug-ins for
creating ASCII art from an image or even video clip.

__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing.
http://photos.yahoo.com/

From george at metaart.org  Sat Dec  6 17:42:52 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Macworld Conference & Expo Outing?
In-Reply-To: <20031206220710.66315.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20031206220710.66315.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200312061542.52959.george@metaart.org>

Josh,
Oh well. 
I'm hoping it turns out
it's convenient for you to come on Wednesday too.
George

All,
Based on the newsletter,
> ***Free Exhibit Hall Guest Pass for Macworld Conference & Expo,
> San Francisco, CA--January 6-9
> Register online by December 8 with Priority code PC0211
> http://www.macworldexpo.com
it sounds like you should register by Monday,
if you want to use the priority code given there.
George

On Saturday 06 December 2003 2:07 pm, Joshua Wait wrote:
> So far, I'm planning on going to MacWorld Expo on only
> Tuesday. I may go on Wednesday as well, but I will
> have to wait and see how my work schedule looks like.
> I will most likely be collecting information for my
> clients.
>
> --JOSHUA
...


From george at metaart.org  Sat Dec  6 17:48:06 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] ASCII Art Forgeries
In-Reply-To: <20031206220710.66315.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20031206220710.66315.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200312061548.06800.george@metaart.org>

Joshua,

I hadn't thought of cheating on the ASCII art.
I don't know what Marsee's intent was,
so I don't know how much of a problem that is.
Hm, Marsee does say "your original rendition".

I enjoy the idea of ASCII art forgeries.
I'm imagining a museum of ASCII art forgeries.
Curator: 
"And over here we have an excellent forgery of an early Tony Monroe.
Only an expert would know it's a forgery.
The giveaway is the overuse of consonants."

George

P.S. 
If any of you have done ASCII art forgeries of O'Reilly animals
and feel like it,
I'd suggest sending them off to Marsee with a note.


On Saturday 06 December 2003 2:07 pm, Joshua Wait wrote:
...
> P.S. Wouldn't be easy to cheat on the ASCII art
> submission? There are several free plug-ins for
> creating ASCII art from an image or even video clip.



From george at metaart.org  Sun Dec  7 19:23:28 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Lightning Talk on Silly Villains
Message-ID: <200312071723.28321.george@metaart.org>

OK, Tuesday, I'll give a lightning talk 
regarding the current test version of Silly Villains
and what makes it tick.
You can see the test version in action at
   http://www.metaart.org/firefly/

(Request: 
Please run the cgi involved 
from one of the pages on firefly.
Well, unless you wish to encounter an error page.)

If you wish to,
you can get to a bit of info 
about the mechanisms underlying Silly Villains
(also) from   http://www.metaart.org/firefly/
The general approach has not changed.
However the language for expressing 
the grammar for Silly Villains
is now much richer.

George

  


From blyman at iii.com  Mon Dec  8 10:55:27 2003
From: blyman at iii.com (Belden Lyman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] ASCII Art Forgeries
In-Reply-To: <200312061548.06800.george@metaart.org>
References: <20031206220710.66315.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com>
	<200312061548.06800.george@metaart.org>
Message-ID: <3FD4ACFF.5060106@iii.com>


Of course, everyone knows that the true ASCII art masters
tended to re-use their canvases. If you look closely at
the obfuscated Perl camel (surely you've seen the shirt from
think geek) you can see a revolving earth ASCIImation.

Belden (who never figured out that revolving globe nonsense)

George Woolley wrote:

> Joshua,
> 
> I hadn't thought of cheating on the ASCII art.
> I don't know what Marsee's intent was,
> so I don't know how much of a problem that is.
> Hm, Marsee does say "your original rendition".
> 
> I enjoy the idea of ASCII art forgeries.
> I'm imagining a museum of ASCII art forgeries.
> Curator: 
> "And over here we have an excellent forgery of an early Tony Monroe.
> Only an expert would know it's a forgery.
> The giveaway is the overuse of consonants."
> 
> George
> 
> P.S. 
> If any of you have done ASCII art forgeries of O'Reilly animals
> and feel like it,
> I'd suggest sending them off to Marsee with a note.
> 
> 
> On Saturday 06 December 2003 2:07 pm, Joshua Wait wrote:
> ...
> 
>>P.S. Wouldn't be easy to cheat on the ASCII art
>>submission? There are several free plug-ins for
>>creating ASCII art from an image or even video clip.
> 
> 
> 


From robert-kuropkat at comcast.net  Mon Dec  8 12:35:34 2003
From: robert-kuropkat at comcast.net (robert-kuropkat@comcast.net)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Lightning Talk on Silly Villains
Message-ID: <120820031835.770.6ab7@comcast.net>


All,

This will be the first meeting at my place and I am afraid I won't have what I consider and "adequete" computer for the meeting.  I'm working on a debian box (installing it over the internet was pretty cool) but I am not yet finished.  I can have an OS/2 box (stop giggling) that can access the Internet but I won't have a linux box ready.  If someone wants to bring a computer with them then that would be grand.  If you bring an s-video cable with you we can plug it into the tv as well...

Robert Kuropkat
> OK, Tuesday, I'll give a lightning talk 
> regarding the current test version of Silly Villains
> and what makes it tick.
> You can see the test version in action at
>    http://www.metaart.org/firefly/
> 
> (Request: 
> Please run the cgi involved 
> from one of the pages on firefly.
> Well, unless you wish to encounter an error page.)
> 
> If you wish to,
> you can get to a bit of info 
> about the mechanisms underlying Silly Villains
> (also) from   http://www.metaart.org/firefly/
> The general approach has not changed.
> However the language for expressing 
> the grammar for Silly Villains
> is now much richer.
> 
> George
> 
>   
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Oakland mailing list
> Oakland@mail.pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland

From george at metaart.org  Mon Dec  8 22:28:45 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Review of "The Best of The Joy of Tech"
Message-ID: <200312082028.45336.george@metaart.org>

There's a review of the
"The Best of The Joy of Tech"
on the Oakland.pm site
at   http://oakland.pm.org/reviews/joy.html



From george at metaart.org  Mon Dec  8 22:59:05 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] December Oakland.pm Meeting: Tue. Dec. 9
Message-ID: <200312082059.05441.george@metaart.org>

I'm hoping to see a number of you 
at the meeting tomorrow (=Tuesday).

Note the location. 
Not Arden's, not Josh's, but rather Robert's.
See the Oakland.pm website for a cut at directions.

......................................................
Snip from Oakland.pm website
at   http://oakland.pm.org/
......................................................
Next meeting
when: Tue. Dec. 9 at 7:30-9:30pm.
   (We meet 2nd Tuesdays.)
where: Robert Kuropkat's place
   2845 Pearl Harbor Road, Alameda
directions: See first cut at directions
theme: Giveaways
what:
   introductions
   lightning talks
   giveaways
   ...
who: open to anyone interested.
how much: no fee for our meetings.




From tony at nog.net  Tue Dec  9 18:35:03 2003
From: tony at nog.net (Tony Monroe)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] December Oakland.pm Meeting: Tue. Dec. 9
In-Reply-To: <200312021636.24093.george@metaart.org>
References: <200312021636.24093.george@metaart.org>
Message-ID: <20031210003503.GD4098@bloodrose.nog.net>

Due to work demands, I don't think I'll be able to make it this
evening.  Sorry for the late notice...

-- tony
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From george at metaart.org  Tue Dec  9 20:04:24 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] December Oakland.pm Meeting: Tue. Dec. 9
In-Reply-To: <20031210003503.GD4098@bloodrose.nog.net>
References: <200312021636.24093.george@metaart.org>
	<20031210003503.GD4098@bloodrose.nog.net>
Message-ID: <200312091804.24877.george@metaart.org>

Tony,
I understand.
Thanks for letting me know.

We won't be expecting you this evening.
George

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 4:35 pm, Tony Monroe wrote:
> Due to work demands, I don't think I'll be able to make it this
> evening.  Sorry for the late notice...
>
> -- tony


From george at metaart.org  Thu Dec 11 22:34:41 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Re: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, December 4
In-Reply-To: <LYRIS-2759179-15604-2003.12.04-18.11.15--george#metaart.org@newsletter.oreilly.com>
References: <LYRIS-2759179-15604-2003.12.04-18.11.15--george#metaart.org@newsletter.oreilly.com>
Message-ID: <200312112034.41702.george@metaart.org>

Marsee,
OK, here's my crude attempt at ASCII art.
(See below my "signature".)
It's supposed to be a llama.
George

P.S. Please be sure to use Courier
     or some other fixed width font.
     Otherwise, it looks even weirder.

All,
Anyone else?
George



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On Thursday 04 December 2003 6:11 pm, you wrote:
...
> ================================================================
> O'Reilly News for User Group Members
> December 4, 2003
> ================================================================
...
> ---------------------
> Fun
> ---------------------
> ***Animal ASCII Art--Do You Have Some?
> If you are an artist with you keyboard, please let me know. I am looking
> for ASCII versions of our famous O'Reilly animals. Please send an email
> to marsee@oreilly.com with your original rendition.
...


From joshnjillwait at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 12 14:36:07 2003
From: joshnjillwait at yahoo.com (Joshua Wait)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Good List Serve Software?
In-Reply-To: <200312021800.hB2I0SG16247@mail.pm.org>
Message-ID: <20031212203607.2107.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com>

I have a friend who wants to run his own list serve on
his in house server for a non-profit community service
program. He will probably want to have a couple of
different lists, so he wants to run it himself.  

Does anyone know of good list serve software or have
any preferences for a particular product?

I pointed him in the direction of majordomo, but I
know so little about it that I couldn't tell him much.

--JOSHUA

__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing.
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From david at fetter.org  Fri Dec 12 14:43:06 2003
From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Good List Serve Software?
In-Reply-To: <20031212203607.2107.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <200312021800.hB2I0SG16247@mail.pm.org>
	<20031212203607.2107.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20031212204306.GX1859@fetter.org>

On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 12:36:07PM -0800, Joshua Wait wrote:
> I have a friend who wants to run his own list serve on
> his in house server for a non-profit community service
> program. He will probably want to have a couple of
> different lists, so he wants to run it himself.  
> 
> Does anyone know of good list serve software or have
> any preferences for a particular product?
> 
> I pointed him in the direction of majordomo, but I
> know so little about it that I couldn't tell him much.

A NUMBER ONE (pardon me for shouting): point him *away* from
majordomo.  It sux0r in every imaginable way.

You might check out ezmlm <http://cr.yp.to/ezmlm.html>

Cheers,
D
-- 
David Fetter david@fetter.org http://fetter.org/
phone: +1 510 893 6100    cell: +1 415 235 3778

From blyman at iii.com  Fri Dec 12 14:59:54 2003
From: blyman at iii.com (Belden Lyman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Good List Serve Software?
In-Reply-To: <20031212203607.2107.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20031212203607.2107.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3FDA2C4A.40303@iii.com>



Joshua Wait wrote:

> I have a friend who wants to run his own list serve on
> his in house server for a non-profit community service
> program. He will probably want to have a couple of
> different lists, so he wants to run it himself.  
> 
> Does anyone know of good list serve software or have
> any preferences for a particular product?
> 
> I pointed him in the direction of majordomo, but I
> know so little about it that I couldn't tell him much.
> 

What is Oakland.pm.org managed by? Postman, I think?

It's plenty clicky from the admin side, if I remember right.
George, can you comment on oakland.pm.org?

Belden


From cajun at cajuninc.com  Fri Dec 12 15:01:04 2003
From: cajun at cajuninc.com (M. Lewis)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Good List Serve Software?
In-Reply-To: <20031212203607.2107.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20031212203607.2107.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200312121301.04611.cajun@cajuninc.com>

Another good option is Mailman (http://www.list.org). That is the s/w that is 
running this list as well as PBML.

Mike

On Friday 12 December 2003 12:36, Joshua Wait wrote:
> I have a friend who wants to run his own list serve on
> his in house server for a non-profit community service
> program. He will probably want to have a couple of
> different lists, so he wants to run it himself.
>
> Does anyone know of good list serve software or have
> any preferences for a particular product?
>
> I pointed him in the direction of majordomo, but I
> know so little about it that I couldn't tell him much.
>
> --JOSHUA
>
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing.
> http://photos.yahoo.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Oakland mailing list
> Oakland@mail.pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland

-- 
  
  Any given program will expand to fill available memory.
 13:00:01  up 21 days, 11:29,  7 users,  load average: 0.57, 0.88, 0.78


From blyman at iii.com  Fri Dec 12 15:18:20 2003
From: blyman at iii.com (Belden Lyman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Good List Serve Software?
In-Reply-To: <200312121301.04611.cajun@cajuninc.com>
References: <20031212203607.2107.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com>
	<200312121301.04611.cajun@cajuninc.com>
Message-ID: <3FDA309C.4000908@iii.com>



M. Lewis wrote:

> Another good option is Mailman (http://www.list.org). That is the s/w that is 
> running this list as well as PBML.
> 

Ahh, that's what I meant. Postman, mailman...ho-hum.




From george at metaart.org  Fri Dec 12 15:51:23 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Good List Serve Software?
In-Reply-To: <3FDA2C4A.40303@iii.com>
References: <20031212203607.2107.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com>
	<3FDA2C4A.40303@iii.com>
Message-ID: <200312121351.23258.george@metaart.org>

On Friday 12 December 2003 12:59 pm, Belden Lyman wrote:
> Joshua Wait wrote:
> > I have a friend who wants to run his own list serve on
> > his in house server for a non-profit community service
> > program. He will probably want to have a couple of
> > different lists, so he wants to run it himself.
> >
> > Does anyone know of good list serve software or have
> > any preferences for a particular product?
> >
> > I pointed him in the direction of majordomo, but I
> > know so little about it that I couldn't tell him much.
>
> What is Oakland.pm.org managed by? Postman, I think?
>
> It's plenty clicky from the admin side, if I remember right.
> George, can you comment on oakland.pm.org?
>
> Belden

Belden, 
You are correct.
I've found Mailman a pleasure to use for this list.
Easy to set up and easy to maintain.

Here's a snip from the Perl Mongers FAQ
for running a successful Perl Monger's group.
   ------------------------------------------------
   Q: You use mailman on a Perl web site? 
   Are you a secret Python programmer?
   A: mailman is better than majordomo. Deal with it.
   -----------------------------------------------

I don't know anything about the system administration side.
But Mike does and I see he has posted on this thread.
George


From george at metaart.org  Fri Dec 12 16:29:26 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Good List Serve Software? > PBML
In-Reply-To: <200312121301.04611.cajun@cajuninc.com>
References: <20031212203607.2107.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com>
	<200312121301.04611.cajun@cajuninc.com>
Message-ID: <200312121429.26622.george@metaart.org>

I'm thinking some of the newer Oakland.pm subscribers,
including Joshua,
may not know what PBML is.

PBML stands for Perl Basics Mailing List.
There's a FAQ for it at
   http://oakland.pm.org/mailinglists/pbml_faq.html
It's not been very active recently,
but it's, IMO, a good place to ask basic questions re Perl.

On Friday 12 December 2003 1:01 pm, M. Lewis wrote:
> Another good option is Mailman (http://www.list.org). That is the s/w that
> is running this list as well as PBML.
>
> Mike
...



From david at kineticode.com  Fri Dec 12 16:03:50 2003
From: david at kineticode.com (David Wheeler)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Good List Serve Software?
In-Reply-To: <200312121351.23258.george@metaart.org>
References: <20031212203607.2107.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com>
	<3FDA2C4A.40303@iii.com> <200312121351.23258.george@metaart.org>
Message-ID: <1181C63B-2CEF-11D8-81B2-000A95972D84@kineticode.com>

On Dec 12, 2003, at 1:51 PM, George Woolley wrote:

> Here's a snip from the Perl Mongers FAQ
> for running a successful Perl Monger's group.
>    ------------------------------------------------
>    Q: You use mailman on a Perl web site?
>    Are you a secret Python programmer?
>    A: mailman is better than majordomo. Deal with it.
>    -----------------------------------------------

You might want to check out Siesta, if you want a Perl mail list 
manager. It's still in development, but since the London Perl Mongers 
are doing the development, rest assured that it will be a first-rate 
product.

The Siesta developers use it for their own mail lists, so it's usable 
now.

   http://siesta.unixbeard.net/

Regards,

David

-- 
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From george at metaart.org  Mon Dec 15 14:12:29 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] MacWorld Outing
Message-ID: <200312151212.29578.george@metaart.org>

OK, there are now four people 
who say they'll be there
plus several others who are maybes.
Anyone else? ? ? <<<-----

Here's the tentative plan:
* meet at the Conference
? ? ?date: Wednesday, January 7, 2004
? ? ?time: 2pm
     conference location: Moscone Center
     street address: 747 Howard St., San Francisco
? ? ?specific meeting place: O'Reilly booth (#2143)
* while we're at the O'Reilly booth, 
? ? ?it would be fun to meet David Pogue
? ? who I gather will be there
* follow whoever has a good idea to wherever
At any point, you are free to go off on your own.

url for conference:   http://www.macworldexpo.com


From george at metaart.org  Mon Dec 15 14:16:46 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Meeting Places
Message-ID: <200312151216.46970.george@metaart.org>

Thanks to those of you who communicated your concerns
re where we would be meeting
now that Arden's place is not available to us.

In November we met at Joshua's in Berkeley 
and a few days ago we met at Robert's in Alameda.

The plan for now is
* to have regular meetings at Joshua's
which is easily accessible by both car and public transportation
* to have special meetings needing more space at Robert's.
Both Joshua and Robert are agreeable,
and, I believe, 
this plan takes into account the input I've gotten.

Thanks to both Joshua and Robert, and their wives,
for making their places available to us.
Also thanks to them for tolerating
the somewhat lengthy decision making process 
we just went through.

George "ears first"




From jseidel at edpci.com  Mon Dec 15 16:08:28 2003
From: jseidel at edpci.com (Jon Seidel, CMC)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Twiki sites...
Message-ID: <00c101c3c35c$73d2d3b0$6200000a@edpci.com>

Folks... (and particularly Robert), here are some twiki sites that I
recently found that look much better than the basic twiki format.  There's
yet one more site I found (and can't find again) that was really slick...
I'll pass it along when it shows up again.
http://openguides.org/ (uses the CGI::Wiki module)

http://wiki.escomposlinux.org/Escomposlinux/WebHome

http://www.crosswire.org/ucgi-bin/twiki/view/TWiki/TWikiSite

http://www.lathi.net/twiki-bin/view/TWiki/WebHome

http://www.annandaleroad.org/cgi-bin/view/TWiki/WebHome

http://agora.cubik.org/wiki/view/TWiki/WebHome

http://www.gruene-hilfe.de/GrueneHilfeWiki/view/TWiki/TWikiLogos

http://www.albertaburn.com/wiki/index.php?thing=Text%20Formatting%20Rules

Hope this is of interest... I'm very interested in twiki sites, so if anyone
has seen a really slick one, please let me know.

Thanks...jon

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From george at metaart.org  Mon Dec 15 17:38:49 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Twiki sites...
In-Reply-To: <00c101c3c35c$73d2d3b0$6200000a@edpci.com>
References: <00c101c3c35c$73d2d3b0$6200000a@edpci.com>
Message-ID: <200312151538.49732.george@metaart.org>

Jon,
Thanks for the links.
After the meeting last week,
I was hoping you'd drop some of these links on us.
George

On Monday 15 December 2003 2:08 pm, Jon Seidel, CMC wrote:
> Folks... (and particularly Robert), here are some twiki sites that I
> recently found that look much better than the basic twiki format.  There's
> yet one more site I found (and can't find again) that was really slick...
> I'll pass it along when it shows up again.
> http://openguides.org/ (uses the CGI::Wiki module)
>
> http://wiki.escomposlinux.org/Escomposlinux/WebHome
>
> http://www.crosswire.org/ucgi-bin/twiki/view/TWiki/TWikiSite
>
> http://www.lathi.net/twiki-bin/view/TWiki/WebHome
>
> http://www.annandaleroad.org/cgi-bin/view/TWiki/WebHome
>
> http://agora.cubik.org/wiki/view/TWiki/WebHome
>
> http://www.gruene-hilfe.de/GrueneHilfeWiki/view/TWiki/TWikiLogos
>
> http://www.albertaburn.com/wiki/index.php?thing=Text%20Formatting%20Rules
>
> Hope this is of interest... I'm very interested in twiki sites, so if
> anyone has seen a really slick one, please let me know.
>
> Thanks...jon



From george at metaart.org  Mon Dec 15 18:32:32 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Tony Stubblebine Talk in March
Message-ID: <200312151632.32928.george@metaart.org>

Tony Stubblebine
author of the "Regular Expression Pocket Reference"  
has committed to give us a talk 
at our March meeting (i.e. March 9th).

I'll  provide more info when I have it.

There's a review of his Regex Pocket Reference
on our site at   http://oakland.pm.org/reviews/regexppr.html

George


From extasia at extasia.org  Mon Dec 15 20:25:45 2003
From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] SIG-BEER-WEST this Saturday 8/16 in San Francisco
Message-ID: <20031215182545.A26290@gerasimov.net>

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*****
*****  Please note that there will be no
*****  sig-beer-west event in December 2003.
*****

We will resume sig-beer-west in January. Mark Saturday, January 17th
on your calendar and watch <http://extasia.org/sig-beer-west/> for
details.

Happy Holidays!  See you in January!

For any who are curious about what sig-beer-west is, please see
last month's announcement:

  http://extasia.org/sig-beer-west/200311.html

_______________________________________________________________________

sig-beer-west
Beer.   Mental stimulation.


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From extasia at extasia.org  Mon Dec 15 20:38:10 2003
From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] CORRECTION: No SIG-BEER-WEST event this month
Message-ID: <20031215183810.A27245@gerasimov.net>

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*sigh*  Please excuse the incorrect subject in the previous email!

_______________________________________________________________________

*****
*****  Please note that there will be no
*****  sig-beer-west event in December 2003.
*****

We will resume sig-beer-west in January. Mark Saturday, January 17th
on your calendar and watch <http://extasia.org/sig-beer-west/> for
details.

Happy Holidays!  See you in January!

For any who are curious about what sig-beer-west is, please see
last month's announcement:

  http://extasia.org/sig-beer-west/200311.html

_______________________________________________________________________

sig-beer-west
Beer.   Mental stimulation.


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From george at metaart.org  Wed Dec 24 00:32:26 2003
From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Merry Christmas
Message-ID: <200312232232.26532.george@metaart.org>

My modest Christmas offering is this link
to a Cat's View of a Christmas tree:
   http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/index.html
And if you're into cat's perhaps you'll like this too:   
   http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/285.html

Or perhaps more appropriate to a pm is:
   http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010831

Or if you are really more interested in Linux
perhaps you'll like this:
   http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/240.html

Anyway, Merry Christmas!

George


From arden at lmi.net  Fri Dec 26 13:24:26 2003
From: arden at lmi.net (Arden Schaeffer)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] Arden's New Year's Day party from 3 p.m.
Message-ID: <1E93D2A6-37D9-11D8-9D27-0003934696D8@lmi.net>

You're invited to a New Year's Day party at my house on January 1 of 
2003 beginning at 3 p.m.
Those who arrive earlier will be enslaved and put to hard labor.
~Arden


From arden at lmi.net  Wed Dec 31 04:59:07 2003
From: arden at lmi.net (Arden Schaeffer)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:33:36 2004
Subject: [oak perl] 2004.01.01. Thursday 3 p.m.
Message-ID: <5B057FD8-3B80-11D8-8DC7-0003934696D8@lmi.net>

As i said in my previous message:
You're invited to a New Year's Day party at my house on January 1 of 
2003 beginning at 3 p.m.
Those who arrive earlier will be enslaved and put to hard labor.

But i forgot to mention the following:

Bring your own bottle, but
don't bring food.
Antoinette will provide finger-food.

For directions, visit
http://users.lmi.net/arden/en.dir.html
or
http://users.lmi.net/arden/en/dir.html
One or both of the above should work.

~Arden