From george at metaart.org Tue Apr 1 15:22:45 2003 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:30 2004 Subject: [oak perl] News? Message-ID: <200304011322.45406.george@metaart.org> Anyone hear anything from Lirpa Sloof, etc.? From blyman at iii.com Tue Apr 1 15:27:57 2003 From: blyman at iii.com (Belden Lyman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:30 2004 Subject: [oak perl] News? References: <200304011322.45406.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <3E8A045D.90909@iii.com> George Woolley wrote: > Anyone hear anything from Lirpa Sloof, etc.? gro.napc.www://ptth (: nedleB From egroeg at metaart.org Tue Apr 1 17:08:57 2003 From: egroeg at metaart.org (yellooW egroeG) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:30 2004 Subject: [oak perl] News? In-Reply-To: <3E8A045D.90909@iii.com> References: <200304011322.45406.george@metaart.org> <3E8A045D.90909@iii.com> Message-ID: <200304011508.57857.egroeg@metaart.org> .nedleB ,uoy knahT egroeG On Tuesday 01 April 2003 1:27 pm, Belden Lyman wrote: > George Woolley wrote: > > Anyone hear anything from Lirpa Sloof, etc.? > > gro.napc.www://ptth > > (: > > nedleB From george at metaart.org Tue Apr 1 18:03:17 2003 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:30 2004 Subject: [oak perl] UG discount for the O'Reilly Emerging Technology Conference Message-ID: <200304011603.17437.george@metaart.org> I just got email from Marsee Henon of O'Reilly which included a new User Group Discount Code, ET03SUG, that is good for 40% the 2003 O'Reilly Emerging Technology Conference. egroeG To register: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/et2003/create/ord_et03 For more info on the O'Reilly Emerging Technology Conference: http://conferences.oreilly.com/etcon/ From george at metaart.org Tue Apr 1 23:31:33 2003 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:30 2004 Subject: [oak perl] Next Meeting: Tue. April 8, 2003 Message-ID: <200304012131.33803.george@metaart.org> Note that our meeting comes really early this month. It's a week from today. Cut & Paste from Our Website http://oakland.pm.org ------------------------------------- Come to our sixth meeting: * time: Tue. April 8, 2003 7:30pm-9:30pm. (We meet each 2nd Tue.) * place: Arden Schaeffer's place 413 61st Street, Oakland CA directions * agenda: * introductions * lightning talks * talk by David Fetter "A Few Ways To Do It: Some Perl Techniques" * ... * who: open to anyone interested. * cost: no fee for our meetings. From george at metaart.org Wed Apr 2 13:08:03 2003 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:30 2004 Subject: [oak perl] Fwd: sv.pm.org: Yahoo Perl Job announcement Message-ID: <200304021108.03688.george@metaart.org> ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: sv.pm.org: Yahoo Perl Job announcement Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:55:37 -0800 From: james@ActionMessage.com To: georgepw@metaart.org Fellow Perl Mongers: One of our members has been kind enough to forward a Perl job announcement. "Yahoo!'s Engineering Infrastructure group is looking for a motivated Perl hacker interested in developer support tools. Help build the next generation of package configuration, release management, bug-tracking and build tools used by Yahoo! developers worldwide. A BS/MS in Computer Science or equivalent and 4+ years experience with Perl and Unix is required. Experience with CVS, Makefiles, SQL, and PHP a plus. " http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000624.html Please reply to the email address in the posting. James. -- Powered by ActionMessage http://www.ActionMessage.com/index.html?cp=PERL-YJOB2 ------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20030402/6852b89f/attachment.htm From david at fetter.org Thu Apr 3 02:20:33 2003 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:30 2004 Subject: [oak perl] Next Meeting: Tue. April 8, 2003 In-Reply-To: <200304012131.33803.george@metaart.org> References: <200304012131.33803.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <20030403082033.GH18584@fetter.org> On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:31:33PM -0800, George Woolley wrote: > Note that our meeting comes really early this month. > It's a week from today. > > Cut & Paste from Our Website http://oakland.pm.org > ------------------------------------- > > Come to our sixth meeting: > > * time: Tue. April 8, 2003 7:30pm-9:30pm. > (We meet each 2nd Tue.) > * place: Arden Schaeffer's place > 413 61st Street, Oakland CA directions > * agenda: > * introductions > * lightning talks > * talk by David Fetter > "A Few Ways To Do It: Some Perl Techniques" In the spirit of "there's more than one way to do it," please bring * a few of your own techniques if you feel like sharing them, * a hand to raise often (if you don't have one, substitutes will do :) as my style is more along the lines of "the guide on the side" than "the sage on the stage." Cheers, D -- David Fetter david@fetter.org http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 510 893 6100 cell: +1 415 235 3778 From george at metaart.org Sat Apr 5 14:06:08 2003 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:30 2004 Subject: [oak perl] Newsletter of 2003-04-04 Message-ID: <200304051206.08739.george@metaart.org> The O'Reilly UG newsletter of 2003-04-04 is on our site at http://oakland.pm.org/oreilly/2003/newsletter_20030404.txt should you wish to read it. From george at metaart.org Mon Apr 7 13:09:28 2003 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:30 2004 Subject: [oak perl] Reviews Message-ID: <200304071109.28635.george@metaart.org> Reviews on Our Site ------------------------- There are now ten reviews on the Oakland.pm site: 7 book reviews, 1 article review and 2 product reviews. The books reviewed are related to: open source (3), blogging, http, google and gimp. The list of reviews is at http://oakland.pm.org/reviews/reviews.html. Reviews Invited ------------------- Reviews are invited on subjects in some way related to Perl. We currently have reviews on books, products and an article; but there are other possibilities, eg, a course. There is not a required layout for reviews. Review Copies ------------------ If you would like to review an O'Reilly book, I may be able to get you a copy. From david at wheeler.net Tue Apr 8 22:40:45 2003 From: david at wheeler.net (David Wheeler) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:30 2004 Subject: [oak perl] MySQL Conference Message-ID: <0BA07EFF-6A3D-11D7-BB32-0003931A964A@wheeler.net> Hi Everyone, Apologies for cross-posting, but I thought this would interest everyone. The First MySQL conference starts on Thursday in San Jose, and I know someone who is looking for a volunteer to man the "Perl Table" for a day in exchange for a pass to the three-day conference. http://www.mysql.com/events/uc2003/ If you're interested, drop me a line by noon tomorrow and I'll forward your email address on. Regards, David -- David Wheeler AIM: dwTheory david@kineticode.com ICQ: 15726394 Yahoo!: dew7e Jabber: Theory@jabber.org Kineticode. Setting knowledge in motion.[sm] From george at metaart.org Wed Apr 9 01:27:28 2003 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:30 2004 Subject: [oak perl] MySQL Conference In-Reply-To: <0BA07EFF-6A3D-11D7-BB32-0003931A964A@wheeler.net> References: <0BA07EFF-6A3D-11D7-BB32-0003931A964A@wheeler.net> Message-ID: <200304082327.28978.george@metaart.org> David, Thanks for posting this. No apology necessary as far as I'm concerned. George On Tuesday 08 April 2003 8:40 pm, David Wheeler wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Apologies for cross-posting, but I thought this would interest > everyone. The First MySQL conference starts on Thursday in San Jose, > and I know someone who is looking for a volunteer to man the "Perl > Table" for a day in exchange for a pass to the three-day conference. > > http://www.mysql.com/events/uc2003/ > > If you're interested, drop me a line by noon tomorrow and I'll forward > your email address on. > > Regards, > > David From george at metaart.org Wed Apr 9 16:47:40 2003 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:30 2004 Subject: [oak perl] April Meeting: Thanks Message-ID: <200304091447.40453.george@metaart.org> David, Thanks for creating the context for "A Few Ways To Do It: Some Perl Techniques". And thanks for being "the guide on the side". I thought the meeting went well. George From extasia at extasia.org Wed Apr 16 15:15:54 2003 From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:31 2004 Subject: [oak perl] SIG-BEER-WEST this Saturday 4/19 in San Francisco Message-ID: <20030416131554.A17322@gerasimov.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 SIG-beer-west Saturday, April 19, 2003 at 6:00pm San Francisco, CA Beer. Mental stimulation. This event: * Saturday, 04/19/2003, 6:00pm, at the Toronado, San Francisco Coming events (third Saturdays): * Saturday, 05/17/2003, 6:00pm * Saturday, 06/21/2003, 6:00pm * Saturday, 07/19/2003, 6:00pm * Saturday, 08/16/2003, 6:00pm San Francisco's next social event for computer sysadmins and their friends, sig-beer-west, will take place on Saturday, April 19, 2003 at the [1]Toronado in San Francisco, CA. The Toronado has an impressive selection of [2]draught and [3]bottled beer. Festivities will start at 6:00pm and continue until we've all left. The Toronado has an excellent selection of beer, but no food. It is perfectly okay to score food from neighboring establishments and bring it back to the Toronado to eat. Also, after we are all full with beer we may roam off to a nearby restaurant. [1] http://www.toronado.com/ [2] http://www.toronado.com/draft.htm [3] http://www.toronado.com/bottles.htm Everyone is welcome at this event. We mean it! Please feel free to forward this information and to invite friends, co-workers, and others who might enjoy lifting a glass with interesting folks from all over the place. (O.K., you do have to be of legal drinking age to attend.) For directions to the Toronado, please use the [4]excellent directions at their website. When you show up at the Toronado, you should look for some kind of home made sig-beer-west sign. We will try to make it obvious who we are. :-) [4] http://www.toronado.com/map.htm NOTE: Check the tables in the back room for us if you don't see us at the tables by the bar. The back room is back and to the left. Can't come this month? Mark your calendar for next month. sig-beer-west is always on the third Saturday of the month. Any Comments, Questions, or Suggestions of Things to Do Later on That Evening ... email [5]Fiid or [6]David. [5] fiid .at. fiid .dot. net [6] extasia .at. extasia .dot. org There is now a sig-beer-west mailing list. To subscribe, send an email with "subscribe" in the body to . sig-beer-west FAQ 1. Q: Your announcement says "computer sysadmins and their friends". How do I know if I'm a friend of a computer sysadmin? I don't even know what one is. A: You're a friend of a computer sysadmin if you can find the sig-beer-west sign at this month's sig-beer-west event. 2. Q: I'm not really a beer person. In fact I'm interested in hanging out, but not in drinking. Would I be welcome? A: Absolutely! The point is to hang out with fun, interesting folks. Please do join us. 3. Q: Is parking difficult around the Toronado, like maybe I should factor this into my travel time? A: Yes. ______________________________________________________________________ sig-beer-west was started in February 2002 when a couple Washington, D.C. based systems administrators who moved to the San Francisco Bay area wanted to continue a [7]dc-sage tradition, sig-beer, which is described in dc-sage web space as: SIG-beer, as in "Special Interest Group - Beer" ala ACM, or as in "send the BEER signal to that process". The original SIG-beer gathering takes place in Washington DC, usually on the first Saturday night of the month. [7] http://www.dc-sage.org/ ______________________________________________________________________ Last modified: $Date: 2003/03/28 05:49:49 $ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+nbk3Ph0M9c/OpdARAhSKAKCGakLQYuloMP9Yx7S/NummOtX+aACghmUP EUjg25cEWR6KwvY2I4iSf+Q= =aTrB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From george at metaart.org Fri Apr 18 14:45:21 2003 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:31 2004 Subject: [oak perl] Newsletter of 2003-04-18 Message-ID: <200304181245.21623.george@metaart.org> The O'Reilly UG newsletter of 2003-04-18 is on our site at http://oakland.pm.org/oreilly/2003/newsletter_20030418.txt should you wish to read it. From george at metaart.org Fri Apr 25 22:29:25 2003 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:31 2004 Subject: [oak perl] Newsletter of 2003-04-25 Message-ID: <200304252029.25675.george@metaart.org> The O'Reilly UG newsletter of 2003-04-25 is on our site at http://oakland.pm.org/oreilly/2003/newsletter_20030425.txt should you wish to read it. From cpm at bitbucket.com Wed Apr 30 17:23:24 2003 From: cpm at bitbucket.com (Craig McLaughlin) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:31 2004 Subject: [oak perl] New Member Message-ID: <1051741406.5359.247.camel@sith.bitbucket.com> Greetings -- I'm obeying the direction on the web page to introduce myself. It's rare for me to obey directions without question, so enjoy it. :) Name: Craig McLaughlin Occupation: Currently Engaged But Unpaid Serial Entrepreneur Perlishness: Moderate Location: Dublin Current Status: Slouching In My Chair Obviously, not the type of thing to put on the website, should it ever come to the point where Those In Charge feel they wish to be publicly associated with me... I suppose I can come up with that later. Anyway, I've been using perl since... '94? '95? Something like that. I've written many, many, little scriptlets, and a few really big projects in perl (did my last company in perl, for example). Interests include digital video, distributed systems, privacy & security, and perl (obviously). Things I seem to know a lot about in perl: date processing. Weird, huh? Things I'd like to know a whole lot more about in perl (but have been too lazy to research up 'til now): PERL COMPILING!, extending perl. :) Current Projects in Perl: working on a distributed content-addressable network with nntp, http, and smtp front-ends. No particular reason, it's just something to do... Okay, I'll shut up now. :) Cheers, --Craig PS: Tried, but failed to get onto the PBML because dnsrbl.net seems to thing my 7-year-old statically IP'd DSL line is a DUN. From blyman at iii.com Wed Apr 30 18:02:16 2003 From: blyman at iii.com (Belden Lyman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:31 2004 Subject: [oak perl] New Member References: <1051741406.5359.247.camel@sith.bitbucket.com> Message-ID: <3EB055F8.30204@iii.com> Craig McLaughlin wrote: > Greetings -- Hi Craig, nice ta meetcha. (Hi Oakland, I *am* still alive.) > > Current Projects in Perl: working on a distributed content-addressable > network with nntp, http, and smtp front-ends. No particular reason, > it's just something to do... Sounds like fun! I've seen London.pm talk about this a few times, e.g. http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20030324/017917.html > > PS: Tried, but failed to get onto the PBML because dnsrbl.net seems to > thing my 7-year-old statically IP'd DSL line is a DUN. > I'd bet that Mike'll take this as a request to join and will add you... Belden From cajun at cajuninc.com Wed Apr 30 18:34:28 2003 From: cajun at cajuninc.com (M.Lewis) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:31 2004 Subject: [oak perl] New Member In-Reply-To: <3EB055F8.30204@iii.com> References: <1051741406.5359.247.camel@sith.bitbucket.com> <3EB055F8.30204@iii.com> Message-ID: <200304301634.28736.cajun@cajuninc.com> Yeah I did see the 'request'. Unfortunately there's not much I can do. If I manually add Craig, he will get the postings to PBML, but won't be able to post himself. My server is intentionally very strict on where it accepts mail from. Craig, if you want to contact me off the list and give me your IP, I'll see if I can come up with a work around for you. M On Wednesday 30 April 2003 16:02, Belden Lyman wrote: > Craig McLaughlin wrote: > > Greetings -- > > Hi Craig, nice ta meetcha. (Hi Oakland, I *am* still alive.) > > > Current Projects in Perl: working on a distributed content-addressable > > network with nntp, http, and smtp front-ends. No particular reason, > > it's just something to do... > > Sounds like fun! I've seen London.pm talk about this a few times, e.g. > http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20030324/017917.html > > > PS: Tried, but failed to get onto the PBML because dnsrbl.net seems to > > thing my 7-year-old statically IP'd DSL line is a DUN. > > I'd bet that Mike'll take this as a request to join and will add you... > > Belden > > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland -- IBM: I Blame Mathematics 16:30:01 up 28 days, 14:39, 4 users, load average: 0.09, 0.47, 0.43 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org From cajun at cajuninc.com Wed Apr 30 18:38:28 2003 From: cajun at cajuninc.com (M.Lewis) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:31 2004 Subject: [oak perl] New Member In-Reply-To: <3EB055F8.30204@iii.com> References: <1051741406.5359.247.camel@sith.bitbucket.com> <3EB055F8.30204@iii.com> Message-ID: <200304301638.28670.cajun@cajuninc.com> Also, Craig, it would be helpful if you would forward to me off the list, the response you get when you try to access PBML. M On Wednesday 30 April 2003 16:02, Belden Lyman wrote: > > > PS: Tried, but failed to get onto the PBML because dnsrbl.net seems to > > thing my 7-year-old statically IP'd DSL line is a DUN. > > I'd bet that Mike'll take this as a request to join and will add you... > > Belden > > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland -- IBM: Indigestion Bothers Me 16:35:00 up 28 days, 14:44, 4 users, load average: 0.27, 0.26, 0.34 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org From cpm at bitbucket.com Wed Apr 30 19:10:54 2003 From: cpm at bitbucket.com (Craig McLaughlin) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:31 2004 Subject: [oak perl] New Member In-Reply-To: <3EB055F8.30204@iii.com> References: <1051741406.5359.247.camel@sith.bitbucket.com> <3EB055F8.30204@iii.com> Message-ID: <1051747854.22381.274.camel@sith.bitbucket.com> On Wed, 2003-04-30 at 16:02, Belden Lyman wrote: > Craig McLaughlin wrote: > > Greetings -- > > Hi Craig, nice ta meetcha. (Hi Oakland, I *am* still alive.) Same back atcha (although I guess for me it would be an announcement that I'm alive, as I'd be surprised if any of you knew it before...). > > Current Projects in Perl: working on a distributed content-addressable > > network with nntp, http, and smtp front-ends. No particular reason, > > it's just something to do... > > Sounds like fun! I've seen London.pm talk about this a few times, e.g. > http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20030324/017917.html Hm. Interesting, but a slightly different bird. For a brief explanation of the type of CAN I'm talking about, see: www.acm.org/sigs/sigcomm/sigcomm2001/p13-ratnasamy.pdf NOTE: pdf file > > PS: Tried, but failed to get onto the PBML because dnsrbl.net seems to > > thing my 7-year-old statically IP'd DSL line is a DUN. > > > > I'd bet that Mike'll take this as a request to join and will add you... If he did, that'd be neat, but I don't think I'd be able to post, only read. :) It's not Mike's problem, really... it's the RBL he uses that has the issue. (although I note the email I sent him off list seems to have gone through... vewy intewesting). --Curious Craig From cajun at cajuninc.com Wed Apr 30 19:17:45 2003 From: cajun at cajuninc.com (M.Lewis) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:31 2004 Subject: [oak perl] New Member In-Reply-To: <1051747854.22381.274.camel@sith.bitbucket.com> References: <1051741406.5359.247.camel@sith.bitbucket.com> <3EB055F8.30204@iii.com> <1051747854.22381.274.camel@sith.bitbucket.com> Message-ID: <200304301717.45205.cajun@cajuninc.com> For the curious, Craig and I noticed at about the same time if he couldn't access PBML, he likely wouldn't be able to mail me off the list either. Strangely enough, he was able to mail me off the list.... Go figure. M On Wednesday 30 April 2003 17:10, Craig McLaughlin wrote: > > > PS: Tried, but failed to get onto the PBML because dnsrbl.net seems to > > > thing my 7-year-old statically IP'd DSL line is a DUN. > > > > I'd bet that Mike'll take this as a request to join and will add you... > > If he did, that'd be neat, but I don't think I'd be able to post, only > read. :) It's not Mike's problem, really... it's the RBL he uses that > has the issue. (although I note the email I sent him off list seems to > have gone through... vewy intewesting). > > --Curious Craig > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland -- Meets quality standards: Compiles without errors. 17:15:00 up 28 days, 15:24, 4 users, load average: 1.56, 1.09, 0.62 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org From robert-kuropkat at attbi.com Wed Apr 30 23:42:34 2003 From: robert-kuropkat at attbi.com (Robert Kuropkat) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:31 2004 Subject: [oak perl] New Member - Yet Another... In-Reply-To: <1051741406.5359.247.camel@sith.bitbucket.com> Message-ID: <200305010431.h414Vf927232@mail.pm.org> Following the fine example of Craig from Dublin, allow me to introduce MYSELF :-) Name: Robert Kuropkat Occupation: Programmer (no, really) Perlishness: Moderate (but I'm really impressed with myself) Location: Alameda Current Status: Hiding in the computer room while my wife watches "The Bachelor." I started using PERL about '96 when my then boss said "Do this next project in PERL" Ever since, I've taken quite a fancy to it. Beats the hell out of sed and awk. My personal belief is it may well be possible to save the world, just by using PERL. Interests are both too many to list, and too many to do. I really need to cut back on my hobbies. Which is of course why I joined yet another group. Areas of PERL I am most interested in; OO PERL and PERL/Tk. Which, amusingly enough don't seem to mix very good. Reason for searching out PERL Mongers: the people I work with do NOT write good PERL and don't seem interested in doing so. I need some place to write and be inspired by GOOD, ney GREAT PERL code! I am currently planning to attend the next meeting. What should I do/bring/expect? For the marketing team :-) I came across this group via the web and http://www.perl.org 's list of user groups. Actually, I went to the SF PERL Mongers first and caught a link from thier site, but that's just because I expected to see SF listed at perl.org and was surprised to find one in Oakland. perl.org would make things much easier if they listed groups by state... Robert Kuropkat From cajun at cajuninc.com Wed Apr 30 23:46:50 2003 From: cajun at cajuninc.com (M.Lewis) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:33:31 2004 Subject: [oak perl] New Member - Yet Another... In-Reply-To: <200305010431.h414Vf927232@mail.pm.org> References: <200305010431.h414Vf927232@mail.pm.org> Message-ID: <200304302146.50402.cajun@cajuninc.com> Welcome Robert ! Wow, two new members in the same day ! That's likely a record. Mike On Wednesday 30 April 2003 21:42, Robert Kuropkat wrote: > Following the fine example of Craig from Dublin, allow me to introduce > MYSELF :-) > > Name: Robert Kuropkat > Occupation: Programmer (no, really) > Perlishness: Moderate (but I'm really impressed with myself) > Location: Alameda > Current Status: Hiding in the computer room while my wife watches "The > Bachelor." > > I started using PERL about '96 when my then boss said "Do this next project > in PERL" Ever since, I've taken quite a fancy to it. Beats the hell out > of sed and awk. My personal belief is it may well be possible to save the > world, just by using PERL. > > Interests are both too many to list, and too many to do. I really need to > cut back on my hobbies. Which is of course why I joined yet another group. > > Areas of PERL I am most interested in; OO PERL and PERL/Tk. Which, > amusingly enough don't seem to mix very good. > > Reason for searching out PERL Mongers: the people I work with do NOT write > good PERL and don't seem interested in doing so. I need some place to > write and be inspired by GOOD, ney GREAT PERL code! > > I am currently planning to attend the next meeting. What should I > do/bring/expect? > > For the marketing team :-) I came across this group via the web and > http://www.perl.org 's list of user groups. Actually, I went to the SF > PERL Mongers first and caught a link from thier site, but that's just > because I expected to see SF listed at perl.org and was surprised to find > one in Oakland. perl.org would make things much easier if they listed > groups by state... > > Robert Kuropkat > > > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland -- Managing programmers is like herding cats. 21:45:00 up 28 days, 19:54, 4 users, load average: 0.31, 0.68, 0.79 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org