From jhborwic at unity.ncsu.edu Wed Oct 17 08:06:20 2001 From: jhborwic at unity.ncsu.edu (John Borwick) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:03:28 2004 Subject: APM: Hello, everybody! (NCSU.pm in process of being revived) Message-ID: Hey, everybody. NCSU.pm is starting up again. Sorry I've been so late in doing anything. Thanks especially to Dave Lawrence and Tom Roche for applying intense pressure/shame/guilt. For those interested, there will be an organizational meeting tonight at 6:30 PM in Withers 402A. Our new mailing list is 'ncsu-pm@pm.org' . To configure your stuff, try . We've got http://ncsu.pm.org . The Perl Mongers are running everything for us this year instead of my at-home server, which should begin to provide a sort of continuity. Yours, John Borwick From jhborwic at unity.ncsu.edu Fri Oct 19 11:42:01 2001 From: jhborwic at unity.ncsu.edu (John Borwick) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:03:28 2004 Subject: APM: NCSU.pm plans (what happened on 17 Oct) Message-ID: Hey, everybody. We will have a meeting sometime the week of October 31, just not on Halloween itself. We'll talk about Perl Mongers and a little bit about the basics and not-so-basics of CPAN, like how to download modules using CPAN and what to do to become a CPAN author. This meeting will be widely advertised as an introductory meeting for new members, but we're trying to cater to everybody. There will be meetings on November 14th and November 28th, each at 7 PM. We're going to have a more "official" lecture-style meeting on HTML::Mason on the 14th. The 28th will be less formal, but we'll still have a short talk about the differences between Perl versions 5.005, 5.6, 5.6.1, and 6 (insofar as the Apocalypse is known). Are you interested in being an officer? You're just responsible for making sure that meetings are run. Here are some of the potentially available offices: * President * Vice-President * Treasurer * Secretary Let me know if you're interested. We'll also be giving titles to people who speak and who have spoken, so you can call yourself "Lecturer" at least. Thanks to Dave Lawrence for being our webmaster! If you're interested in code development, Brian Ferris is working on the intial stages of a development team/project pairing where we get a list of Perl projects around campus and match them up with our group so that people can maintain/hone their Perl skillz. Yours, John Borwick NCSU.pm President From Tom_Roche at ncsu.edu Thu Oct 25 22:34:49 2001 From: Tom_Roche at ncsu.edu (Tom Roche) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:03:28 2004 Subject: APM: meeting confusion Message-ID: <3BD8D9D9.31BF2552@ncsu.edu> http://ncsu.pm.org/index.html > The Perl Mongers introductory meeting will be in 214 Withers at 7 PM > Tuesday October 31. invalid date http://ncsu.pm.org/upcoming.html > October 30, 7 PM (Withers 214): Introduction to NCSU.pm, CPAN > downloading & authoring So one should assume the next meeting is actually T _30_ Oct? TIA, Tom_Roche@ncsu.edu From jhborwic at unity.ncsu.edu Thu Oct 25 23:03:25 2001 From: jhborwic at unity.ncsu.edu (John Borwick) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:03:28 2004 Subject: APM: meeting confusion In-Reply-To: <3BD8D9D9.31BF2552@ncsu.edu> Message-ID: Thanks much, it's Oct 30. Website changed. John B. On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Tom Roche wrote: > http://ncsu.pm.org/index.html > > The Perl Mongers introductory meeting will be in 214 Withers at 7 PM > > Tuesday October 31. > > invalid date > > http://ncsu.pm.org/upcoming.html > > October 30, 7 PM (Withers 214): Introduction to NCSU.pm, CPAN > > downloading & authoring > > So one should assume the next meeting is actually T _30_ Oct? > > TIA, Tom_Roche@ncsu.edu > From jhborwic at unity.ncsu.edu Mon Oct 29 15:50:26 2001 From: jhborwic at unity.ncsu.edu (John Borwick) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:03:28 2004 Subject: APM: Meeting tomorrow, Tuesday 30 Oct Message-ID: Hey, just wanted to remind everyone about the Perl Mongers meeting tomorrow, Tuesday 30 October, at 7 PM in Withers 214. Tell your friends. Thanks to Dave Lawrence for keeping up our web page! http://ncsu.pm.org Yours, John Borwick From Tom_Roche at ncsu.edu Tue Oct 30 19:59:15 2001 From: Tom_Roche at ncsu.edu (Tom Roche) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:03:28 2004 Subject: APM: win32 perl stuff Message-ID: <3BDF5AF3.6A0319C5@ncsu.edu> OK, just a warning, followed by a core dump: These days you can do just about as much perl-wise on windows as on anything else. That being said, your life will be easier on something unixy, since that's what most folks run, and that's what a lot of code expects to be run on. That said: perlscript: I know nothing, but I'd look through http://www.apache-asp.org/ GNU win32 perl: My guru for this stuff is Randy Kobes @ U Winnipeg. He hosts theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca, which has a lotta stuff at ftp://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/pub/other/ esp for webserving. He also does ActivePerl: see http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/ppmpackages/ He also takes email. (I have personally found him very helpful.) GNU tools for win32: There's a zillion GNU tools out there, and eventually you _will_ need/want one. There's two ways to get them: Minimalist GNU For Windows (aka MinGW) http://www.mingw.org/ or CygWin http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/ The hand-waving explanation: cygwin tries to make windows look exactly like a unix (guess which one :-), which is hard, and can be difficult for unix novices, but it allows you to run virtually any tool. MinGW just tries to make tools run within windows, which can be easier, but not all tools can be made to do that. (A real explanation discusses cygwin.dll and msvcrt.dll.) If you can, I'd install cygwin: when you make it work you have a lot more options, and the heightened unixosity will improve your perl experience. If you can't cygwin (e.g. on environments like Unity), or if you just want a few tools right away and you don't wanna with cygwin, consider mingw. There's a lotta mingw-built toolsets out there; my current favorite site is http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ Just download/extract UnxUtils.zip to a directory in your path, and you're in bidness--_if_ they've got your tool. (But IIRC they have everything you'd need to -MCPAN.) HTH, Tom_Roche@ncsu.edu From Tom_Roche at ncsu.edu Wed Oct 31 20:55:09 2001 From: Tom_Roche at ncsu.edu (Tom Roche) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:03:28 2004 Subject: APM: web services Message-ID: <3BE0B98D.249592F3@ncsu.edu> I went to a web-services briefing at IBM today. Fun stuff! Unfortunately almost all Java :-( One thing I heard mentioned was that Visual Studio .NET supports ActivePerl, which is http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/ > ActiveState's quality-assured binary build of Perl, available for > Linux, Solaris, and Windows. and is free. I'm normally a GNU partisan, but, if you need an IDE for web services, or if you just happen to own VS.NET, you might prefer ActiveState to "normal" GNU Perl. Also, there's a good reference on Perl tools for XML at http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/perl-xml-toolkit/index.html FWIW, Tom_Roche@ncsu.edu