From nick-list at dytara.com Wed Jun 5 15:36:00 2013 From: nick-list at dytara.com (Nicholas Melnick) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 22:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. Message-ID: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> Hello, everyone in Mpls.pm. Any of you left out there? Still writing Perl? We should have coffee/beer some time. I feel like there's no one left out here. - Nick From jayjarvinen at gmail.com Wed Jun 5 15:40:17 2013 From: jayjarvinen at gmail.com (Jay Jarvinen) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 17:40:17 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. In-Reply-To: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> References: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Nicholas Melnick wrote: > Hello, everyone in Mpls.pm. Any of you left out there? Still writing Perl? > > We should have coffee/beer some time. I feel like there's no one left out > here. > Hey Nick, I'm a long time lurker, rare participant. I'd be up for a group of us meeting though. My preference would be the downtown area, but I'm flexible. -Jay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From techflyg at gmail.com Wed Jun 5 15:50:00 2013 From: techflyg at gmail.com (Jonathan Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 17:50:00 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. In-Reply-To: References: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> Message-ID: I would join up too. Never participated, there has never been any conversation here since I joined up, not that I recall anyway. Jon On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Jay Jarvinen wrote: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Nicholas Melnick wrote: > >> Hello, everyone in Mpls.pm. Any of you left out there? Still writing Perl? >> >> We should have coffee/beer some time. I feel like there's no one left out >> here. >> > > Hey Nick, > > I'm a long time lurker, rare participant. I'd be up for a group of us > meeting though. My preference would be the downtown area, but I'm flexible. > > -Jay > > _______________________________________________ > Mpls-pm mailing list > Mpls-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From autarch at urth.org Wed Jun 5 22:38:28 2013 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 00:38:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. In-Reply-To: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> References: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Jun 2013, Nicholas Melnick wrote: > Hello, everyone in Mpls.pm. Any of you left out there? Still writing Perl? Yes and yes. > We should have coffee/beer some time. I feel like there's no one left out here. Well volunteered. -dave /*============================================================ http://VegGuide.org http://blog.urth.org Your guide to all that's veg House Absolute(ly Pointless) ============================================================*/ From autarch at urth.org Wed Jun 5 22:44:55 2013 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 00:44:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Speaking of getting together Message-ID: If someone (like Nick Melnick ;) wanted to organize an actual tech talk, I have a variety of talks I can give, although locals may have seen many of them already. We could also try doing the lightningish talks again. We did this for a while some years back. People would give 5-15 minute talks on something interesting. With 3-5 people this can make for a good hour of content. -dave /*============================================================ http://VegGuide.org http://blog.urth.org Your guide to all that's veg House Absolute(ly Pointless) ============================================================*/ From leonard at umn.edu Thu Jun 6 05:23:56 2013 From: leonard at umn.edu (Leonard Miller) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 07:23:56 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Speaking of getting together In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd try to make it. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Dave Rolsky wrote: > If someone (like Nick Melnick ;) wanted to organize an actual tech talk, I > have a variety of talks I can give, although locals may have seen many of > them already. > > We could also try doing the lightningish talks again. We did this for a > while some years back. People would give 5-15 minute talks on something > interesting. With 3-5 people this can make for a good hour of content. > > > -dave > > /*============================**==============================**== > http://VegGuide.org http://blog.urth.org > Your guide to all that's veg House Absolute(ly Pointless) > ==============================**==============================***/ > ______________________________**_________________ > Mpls-pm mailing list > Mpls-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/**listinfo/mpls-pm > -- Leonard Miller 612-624-4529 Web Developer Housing & Residential Life University of Minnesota -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bryon.wicklund at gmail.com Thu Jun 6 06:17:38 2013 From: bryon.wicklund at gmail.com (Bryon Wicklund) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:17:38 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. In-Reply-To: References: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> Message-ID: I'm in! On Thursday, June 6, 2013, Dave Rolsky wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jun 2013, Nicholas Melnick wrote: > > Hello, everyone in Mpls.pm. Any of you left out there? Still writing Perl? >> > > Yes and yes. > > We should have coffee/beer some time. I feel like there's no one left out >> here. >> > > Well volunteered. > > > -dave > > /*============================**==============================**== > http://VegGuide.org http://blog.urth.org > Your guide to all that's veg House Absolute(ly Pointless) > ==============================**==============================***/ > ______________________________**_________________ > Mpls-pm mailing list > Mpls-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/**listinfo/mpls-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From craig at wavefront.net Thu Jun 6 10:15:32 2013 From: craig at wavefront.net (Craig S. Wilson) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:15:32 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Speaking of getting together In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51B0C3B4.3010606@wavefront.net> I am still around and still writing in Perl. I can talk informally about Perl on ARM based SBC's (not raspberry pi), including getting CPAN modules loaded in a limited memory environment, gathering and parsing data from XBEE radios, and USB device interfacing. On 6/6/2013 7:23 AM, Leonard Miller wrote: > I'd try to make it. > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Dave Rolsky > wrote: > > If someone (like Nick Melnick ;) wanted to organize an actual tech talk, I have a variety of talks I can give, > although locals may have seen many of them already. > > We could also try doing the lightningish talks again. We did this for a while some years back. People would give > 5-15 minute talks on something interesting. With 3-5 people this can make for a good hour of content. > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig S. Wilson 612-865-8794 cwilson at 11below.com Using Perl to put horses asses on the Internet since 2012. http://horsesenseshoes.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick-list at dytara.com Thu Jun 6 15:23:31 2013 From: nick-list at dytara.com (Nicholas Melnick) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 22:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Speaking of getting together In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <827661433.3367.1370557411076.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> Dave, The slightly-longer lightning talks sound like a great idea. I'll throw some dates out soon, let's see if we can lift this pm up for a time or two. - Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rolsky" To: Mpls-pm at pm.org Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 12:44:55 AM Subject: [Mpls-pm] Speaking of getting together If someone (like Nick Melnick ;) wanted to organize an actual tech talk, I have a variety of talks I can give, although locals may have seen many of them already. We could also try doing the lightningish talks again. We did this for a while some years back. People would give 5-15 minute talks on something interesting. With 3-5 people this can make for a good hour of content. -dave /*============================================================ http://VegGuide.org http://blog.urth.org Your guide to all that's veg House Absolute(ly Pointless) ============================================================*/ _______________________________________________ Mpls-pm mailing list Mpls-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm From josjr69 at gmail.com Thu Jun 6 15:29:09 2013 From: josjr69 at gmail.com (James Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 17:29:09 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. In-Reply-To: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> References: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> Message-ID: I'm still around, but not working anymore, since I am on disability due to vision loss due to pigmentary glaucoma ... However, I am still using Perl as my primary script language on my cloud servers whenever I need some kind of enhanced functionality ... I can still do it, but it is difficult, slow and unreliable since it is difficult for me to differentiate between similarly shaped characters: '=' looks like '-' ; and '1', '|', ,':', ';', 'l','I' look the same, depending on font type, size, color, weight ... ... I am currently focused on my writing and learning how to navigate the world with decreasing visual capacity, including the use of various technologies as assistive tools for impaired vision ... I do want to stay involved in Perl in some capacity ... I just don't know how all of the pieces of this new existence are all going to fit together ... When I was still looking for work, I recognized that I needed to seriously update my skills in the direction of the so-called "Modern Perl" (Catalyst, Moose, DBIx, etc) so I set up a Virtual Private Server on 1and1.com and bought the perlcatalyst.comdomain with the intent of setting up a free tutorial site for anyone wanting to scale the steep grade of the Perl Catalyst mountain, in addition to giving me a platform for developing my own skills. My eyesight has made the process far too difficult alone ... I do feel that there is still a real need for tools to help people new to "Modern Perl" to develop related skill sets, but (for now at least) it will have to wait until I mitigate some of the difficulties that come with vision loss ... I am currently learning braille and using braille overlays on my keyboard keys. I'm also learning Dragon voice-to-text, NVDA (Non-Visual Display Access, an Open Source screen reader for the visually impaired), in addition to cursive writing transcription ... I'm also using new tablet technologies to facilitate writing, reading and ebook design and publication ... Amazon's Kindle Direct Publishing provides a nice command line tool called 'kindlegen' that works very well with Perl to prepare books for publication ... I think there are many opportunities for Perl to move into assistive technologies and ebook publishing ... Plus, after developing a lot of software in Perl over two decades (1990 to 2010), often clandestinely, without support, I want to at least have a ringside seat as Perl moves into this new era ... I get calls and email inquiries weekly from recruiters looking for Perl developers and it is painful to have to inform them of my status ... Anyway, I would love to see some activity on the list and face-to-face encounters ... the old Perl Geezer ... Jim Smith josjr69 at gmail.com josjr.com On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Nicholas Melnick wrote: > Hello, everyone in Mpls.pm. Any of you left out there? Still writing Perl? > > We should have coffee/beer some time. I feel like there's no one left out > here. > > - Nick > _______________________________________________ > Mpls-pm mailing list > Mpls-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm > -- James Oliver Smith, Jr Writer, Blogger, Ebook Designer, Digital Publisher, Student of Italian josjr69 at gmail.com www.josjr.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From craig at wavefront.net Thu Jun 6 15:51:58 2013 From: craig at wavefront.net (Craig S. Wilson) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 17:51:58 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. In-Reply-To: References: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> Message-ID: <51B1128E.9050807@wavefront.net> On 6/6/2013 5:29 PM, James Smith wrote: > I do want to stay involved in Perl in some capacity ... I just don't know how all of the pieces of this new existence > are all going to fit together ... When I was still looking for work, I recognized that I needed to seriously update my > skills in the direction of the so-called "Modern Perl" (Catalyst, Moose, DBIx, etc) so I set up a Virtual Private > Server on 1and1.com and bought the perlcatalyst.com domain with the > intent of setting up a free tutorial site for anyone wanting to scale the steep grade of the Perl Catalyst mountain. I have tried to get going with Catalyst a couple of times but haven't been able to devote the time for a sustained effort. I would love to be able to use Catalyst and Perl to fend of the push for Ruby on Rails. So, any tutorials along those lines would be greatly appreciated. I detest RoR. -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig S. Wilson 612-865-8794 cwilson at 11below.com Yahoo! : below11_craig AIM: below11craig MSN: swrider at mnica.net Skype: swrider Google: below11craig at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick-list at dytara.com Fri Jun 7 08:48:54 2013 From: nick-list at dytara.com (Nicholas Melnick) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 15:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. In-Reply-To: <51B1128E.9050807@wavefront.net> References: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> <51B1128E.9050807@wavefront.net> Message-ID: <387851519.2449.1370620134337.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> I'd be happy to schedule a quick ramp up session on Catalyst, for those interested. I'm not a professional trainer by any stretch of the imagination, but I've been using it for fun and professionally for quite a few years now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig S. Wilson" To: "James Smith" Cc: "Nicholas Melnick" , "Mpls Perl Mongers" Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:51:58 PM Subject: Re: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. On 6/6/2013 5:29 PM, James Smith wrote: > I do want to stay involved in Perl in some capacity ... I just don't know how all of the pieces of this new existence > are all going to fit together ... When I was still looking for work, I recognized that I needed to seriously update my > skills in the direction of the so-called "Modern Perl" (Catalyst, Moose, DBIx, etc) so I set up a Virtual Private > Server on 1and1.com and bought the perlcatalyst.com domain with the > intent of setting up a free tutorial site for anyone wanting to scale the steep grade of the Perl Catalyst mountain. I have tried to get going with Catalyst a couple of times but haven't been able to devote the time for a sustained effort. I would love to be able to use Catalyst and Perl to fend of the push for Ruby on Rails. So, any tutorials along those lines would be greatly appreciated. I detest RoR. -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig S. Wilson 612-865-8794 cwilson at 11below.com Yahoo! : below11_craig AIM: below11craig MSN: swrider at mnica.net Skype: swrider Google: below11craig at gmail.com From matt at omega.org Fri Jun 7 09:07:21 2013 From: matt at omega.org (Matthew Johnson) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 11:07:21 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. In-Reply-To: <387851519.2449.1370620134337.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> References: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> <51B1128E.9050807@wavefront.net> <387851519.2449.1370620134337.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> Message-ID: <5717954b-6ee4-41e7-8a31-4daccf526668@email.android.com> lets do it! venue and date & time proposals are next! I have Saturday mornings free at the moment. Nicholas Melnick wrote: >I'd be happy to schedule a quick ramp up session on Catalyst, for those >interested. I'm not a professional trainer by any stretch of the >imagination, but I've been using it for fun and professionally for >quite a few years now. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Craig S. Wilson" >To: "James Smith" >Cc: "Nicholas Melnick" , "Mpls Perl Mongers" > >Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:51:58 PM >Subject: Re: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. > >On 6/6/2013 5:29 PM, James Smith wrote: >> I do want to stay involved in Perl in some capacity ... I just don't >know how all of the pieces of this new existence >> are all going to fit together ... When I was still looking for work, >I recognized that I needed to seriously update my >> skills in the direction of the so-called "Modern Perl" (Catalyst, >Moose, DBIx, etc) so I set up a Virtual Private >> Server on 1and1.com and bought the >perlcatalyst.com domain with the >> intent of setting up a free tutorial site for anyone wanting to scale >the steep grade of the Perl Catalyst mountain. > >I have tried to get going with Catalyst a couple of times but haven't >been able to devote the time for a sustained >effort. I would love to be able to use Catalyst and Perl to fend of >the push for Ruby on Rails. > >So, any tutorials along those lines would be greatly appreciated. > >I detest RoR. -- Sent from my Android phone. Please excuse any typographical errors. From autarch at urth.org Fri Jun 7 09:12:39 2013 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 11:12:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. In-Reply-To: <387851519.2449.1370620134337.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> References: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> <51B1128E.9050807@wavefront.net> <387851519.2449.1370620134337.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Jun 2013, Nicholas Melnick wrote: > I'd be happy to schedule a quick ramp up session on Catalyst, for those interested. I'm not a professional trainer by any stretch of the imagination, but I've been using it for fun and professionally for quite a few years now. I could do a short talk on Web::Machine, which is a technology that works really well for web services. Catalyst is great for full fledged webapps, but not as great for RESTful services. -dave /*============================================================ http://VegGuide.org http://blog.urth.org Your guide to all that's veg House Absolute(ly Pointless) ============================================================*/ From matt at omega.org Sat Jun 15 13:29:15 2013 From: matt at omega.org (Matt Johnson) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 15:29:15 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. In-Reply-To: References: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> <51B1128E.9050807@wavefront.net> <387851519.2449.1370620134337.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> <5717954b-6ee4-41e7-8a31-4daccf526668@email.android.com> Message-ID: Sorry, I'm in process of making a survey to ask everyone I'll finish it. -Matt On Jun 15, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Ben Kaufman wrote: > We're any times decided on? I'd love to attend (can't offer anything in the way of talks, though) > > > -------- Original Message -------- > From: Matthew Johnson > Sent: Fri Jun 07 11:07:21 CDT 2013 > To: Nicholas Melnick , craig at wavefront.net > Cc: Mpls Perl Mongers > Subject: Re: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. > > lets do it! venue and date & time proposals are next! I have Saturday mornings free at the moment. > > Nicholas Melnick wrote: > >> I'd be happy to schedule a quick ramp up session on Catalyst, for those >> interested. I'm not a professional trainer by any stretch of the >> imagination, but I've been using it for fun and professionally for >> quite a few years now. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Craig S. Wilson" >> To: "James Smith" >> Cc: "Nicholas Melnick" , "Mpls Perl Mongers" >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:51:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. >> >> On 6/6/2013 5:29 PM, James Smith wrote: >>> I do want to stay involved in Perl in some capacity ... I just don't >> know how all of the pieces of this new existence >>> are all going to fit together ... When I was still looking for work, >> I recognized that I needed to seriously update my >>> skills in the direction of the so-called "Modern Perl" (Catalyst, >> Moose, DBIx, etc) so I set up a Virtual Private >>> Server on 1and1.com and bought the >> perlcatalyst.com domain with the >>> intent of setting up a free tutorial site for anyone wanting to scale >> the steep grade of the Perl Catalyst mountain. >> >> I have tried to get going with Catalyst a couple of times but haven't >> been able to devote the time for a sustained >> effort. I would love to be able to use Catalyst and Perl to fend of >> the push for Ruby on Rails. >> >> So, any tutorials along those lines would be greatly appreciated. >> >> I detest RoR. > > -- > Sent from my Android phone. Please excuse any typographical errors. > _______________________________________________ > Mpls-pm mailing list > Mpls-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm > > -- > Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From pm at whosgonna.com Sat Jun 15 13:34:25 2013 From: pm at whosgonna.com (Ben Kaufman) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 15:34:25 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. In-Reply-To: <5717954b-6ee4-41e7-8a31-4daccf526668@email.android.com> References: <1560906442.6584.1370471760597.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> <51B1128E.9050807@wavefront.net> <387851519.2449.1370620134337.JavaMail.root@dytara.com> <5717954b-6ee4-41e7-8a31-4daccf526668@email.android.com> Message-ID: Was a date set? -------- Original Message -------- From: Matthew Johnson Sent: Fri Jun 07 11:07:21 CDT 2013 To: Nicholas Melnick , craig at wavefront.net Cc: Mpls Perl Mongers Subject: Re: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. lets do it! venue and date & time proposals are next! I have Saturday mornings free at the moment. Nicholas Melnick wrote: >I'd be happy to schedule a quick ramp up session on Catalyst, for those >interested. I'm not a professional trainer by any stretch of the >imagination, but I've been using it for fun and professionally for >quite a few years now. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Craig S. Wilson" >To: "James Smith" >Cc: "Nicholas Melnick" , "Mpls Perl Mongers" > >Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:51:58 PM >Subject: Re: [Mpls-pm] Hi, everyone. > >On 6/6/2013 5:29 PM, James Smith wrote: >> I do want to stay involved in Perl in some capacity ... I just don't >know how all of the pieces of this new existence >> are all going to fit together ... When I was still looking for work, >I recognized that I needed to seriously update my >> skills in the direction of the so-called "Modern Perl" (Catalyst, >Moose, DBIx, etc) so I set up a Virtual Private >> Server on 1and1.com and bought the >perlcatalyst.com domain with the >> intent of setting up a free tutorial site for anyone wanting to scale >the steep grade of the Perl Catalyst mountain. > >I have tried to get going with Catalyst a couple of times but haven't >been able to devote the time for a sustained >effort. I would love to be able to use Catalyst and Perl to fend of >the push for Ruby on Rails. > >So, any tutorials along those lines would be greatly appreciated. > >I detest RoR. -- Sent from my Android phone. Please excuse any typographical errors. _______________________________________________ Mpls-pm mailing list Mpls-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm - Ben Kaufman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: