[Mpls-pm] Food for Thought, on Perl in the Minneapolis marketplace..

[Gypsy Rogers]

How is this for "anecdotal data", the last 3 recruiters I talked to as an
employer said they had no-one in their database with Perl on their resume.

When I was using recruiters to find contract work I was NEVER called for
perl, it was always dot-net, Java, and Php.

Also, just about every fresh grad I've talked to in the last few years has
had zero exposure to perl through school, if they have any exposure it was
because they picked it up on their own or had a sys-admin job.

So, again, as an employer, my problem is that when I want an entry level
programmer I can't use perl. 

That being said, I fully admit to not using jobs.perl because I get spammed
with $80k employees where I want a $25k to $35k employee and can get one
with other languages to do the same jobs.





On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:43:28 -0500 (CDT), Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> wrote :

> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Nicholas Melnick wrote:
> 
> > I don't have hard data, just purely anecdotal from browsing Craigslist and 
> > Monster for the area. The number of jobs mentioning Perl doesn't seem to be 
> > significantly lower, but Perl as the primary language? Nearly nil around 
> > here. A lot of sysadmin and build engineer positions, very little on 
> > 'development'.
> 
> I'm not sure that really says anything other than that jobs with Perl 
> aren't found on Craiglist and Monster.
> 
> I've been involved in hiring at several places I've worked in the past. 
> When I've had my way, we've never posted the job on Monster. That's pretty 
> bottom of the barrel, and doesn't get good candidates. My feeling towards 
> Craiglist is the same, at least for programming positions.
> 
> That doesn't prove anything other than my personal biases, but I wouldn't 
> be surprised if companies using Perl tend to find candidates other ways, 
> including the Perl jobs site or other job sites that attract a better 
> crowd (stack overflow, O'Reilly, 37 signals).
> 
> I think Monster and Craiglist are mostly used by big companies with big, 
> clueless HR departments, and/or recruiters. They're great for bringing in 
> lots of warm bodies, but they don't attract _good_ developers.
> 
> Also, the job market as a whole for developers has been way done for quite 
> some time. Maybe companies using Perl have been particularly hard hit. 
> Considering that one of Perl's biggest niches is the financial industry, 
> this wouldn't be surprising.
> 
> 
> -dave
> 
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