From gary.vollink at gmail.com  Tue Dec 12 10:01:20 2006
From: gary.vollink at gmail.com (Gary Vollink)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:01:20 -0600
Subject: [Mpls-pm] Meeting - Nov 13?
Message-ID: <d920f0f10612121001m123b4823t2d23fc53ea4c2e35@mail.gmail.com>

Tomorrow is already the second Wednesday of the month, and normally
the day where this group meets up and drinks coffee.

I'm planning on being there.  Anybody else?

  http://minneapolis.pm.org/  for details.

Later,
Gary Allen

From matt at omega.org  Tue Dec 12 15:42:11 2006
From: matt at omega.org (Matthew Johnson)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:42:11 -0600
Subject: [Mpls-pm] Meeting - Nov 13?
In-Reply-To: <d920f0f10612121001m123b4823t2d23fc53ea4c2e35@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d920f0f10612121001m123b4823t2d23fc53ea4c2e35@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6F9E7326-15F0-4112-A437-0FF2DBB62871@omega.org>


Yes, will be there at Espresso Royale, 7pm, Dec 13.


On Dec 12, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Gary Vollink wrote:

> Tomorrow is already the second Wednesday of the month, and normally
> the day where this group meets up and drinks coffee.
>
> I'm planning on being there.  Anybody else?
>
>   http://minneapolis.pm.org/  for details.
>
> Later,
> Gary Allen
> _______________________________________________
> Mpls-pm mailing list
> Mpls-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm


From arthur at acm.org  Tue Dec 12 17:14:41 2006
From: arthur at acm.org (Arthur Goldstein)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:14:41 -0600
Subject: [Mpls-pm] Meeting - Nov 13?
In-Reply-To: <6F9E7326-15F0-4112-A437-0FF2DBB62871@omega.org>
References: <d920f0f10612121001m123b4823t2d23fc53ea4c2e35@mail.gmail.com>
	<6F9E7326-15F0-4112-A437-0FF2DBB62871@omega.org>
Message-ID: <6692986e0612121714s58fea0f1ncf3f51220787b6a6@mail.gmail.com>

I plan to be there (haven't been before).

On 12/12/06, Matthew Johnson <matt at omega.org> wrote:
>
> Yes, will be there at Espresso Royale, 7pm, Dec 13.
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Gary Vollink wrote:
>
> > Tomorrow is already the second Wednesday of the month, and normally
> > the day where this group meets up and drinks coffee.
> >
> > I'm planning on being there.  Anybody else?
> >
> >   http://minneapolis.pm.org/  for details.
> >
> > Later,
> > Gary Allen
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mpls-pm mailing list
> > Mpls-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mpls-pm mailing list
> Mpls-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm
>

From matt at omega.org  Tue Dec 12 21:20:07 2006
From: matt at omega.org (Matthew Johnson)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:20:07 -0600
Subject: [Mpls-pm] Meeting - Nov 13?
In-Reply-To: <6692986e0612121714s58fea0f1ncf3f51220787b6a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d920f0f10612121001m123b4823t2d23fc53ea4c2e35@mail.gmail.com>
	<6F9E7326-15F0-4112-A437-0FF2DBB62871@omega.org>
	<6692986e0612121714s58fea0f1ncf3f51220787b6a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C3961CE6-53E5-49A1-8FBC-BD18B2BFF3AD@omega.org>

Great! Gary and I will be happy welcome you.  (not sure who else will  
be there)

On Dec 12, 2006, at 7:14 PM, Arthur Goldstein wrote:

> I plan to be there (haven't been before).
>
> On 12/12/06, Matthew Johnson <matt at omega.org> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, will be there at Espresso Royale, 7pm, Dec 13.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Gary Vollink wrote:
>>
>>> Tomorrow is already the second Wednesday of the month, and normally
>>> the day where this group meets up and drinks coffee.
>>>
>>> I'm planning on being there.  Anybody else?
>>>
>>>   http://minneapolis.pm.org/  for details.
>>>
>>> Later,
>>> Gary Allen
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Mpls-pm mailing list
>>> Mpls-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Mpls-pm mailing list
>> Mpls-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Mpls-pm mailing list
> Mpls-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm


From cryptosaint at gmail.com  Wed Dec 13 12:18:49 2006
From: cryptosaint at gmail.com (Ardeshir Sepahsalar)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:18:49 -0600
Subject: [Mpls-pm] first time meeting..
Message-ID: <db4fdcb10612131218q7541a846la5f5d765fbf31153@mail.gmail.com>

I will be there, and it will be my first time.

From gary.vollink at gmail.com  Wed Dec 13 16:35:21 2006
From: gary.vollink at gmail.com (Gary Vollink)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:35:21 -0600
Subject: [Mpls-pm] Meeting - !!DEC!! 13?
Message-ID: <d920f0f10612131635y784a76c8m9291493e997ce9a4@mail.gmail.com>

Of course, it would have helped some people if my subject line had
been right in the first place...  I'm on my way over now from St.
Paul.

See you!

On 12/12/06, Matthew Johnson <matt at omega.org> wrote:
> Great! Gary and I will be happy welcome you.  (not sure who else will
> be there)
>
> On Dec 12, 2006, at 7:14 PM, Arthur Goldstein wrote:
>
> > I plan to be there (haven't been before).
> >
> > On 12/12/06, Matthew Johnson <matt at omega.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, will be there at Espresso Royale, 7pm, Dec 13.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 12, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Gary Vollink wrote:
> >>
> >>> Tomorrow is already the second Wednesday of the month, and normally
> >>> the day where this group meets up and drinks coffee.
> >>>
> >>> I'm planning on being there.  Anybody else?
> >>>
> >>>   http://minneapolis.pm.org/  for details.
> >>>
> >>> Later,
> >>> Gary Allen
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Mpls-pm mailing list
> >>> Mpls-pm at pm.org
> >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Mpls-pm mailing list
> >> Mpls-pm at pm.org
> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mpls-pm mailing list
> > Mpls-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mpls-pm mailing list
> Mpls-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm
>

From matt at omega.org  Fri Dec 15 09:42:14 2006
From: matt at omega.org (Matthew Johnson)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:42:14 -0600
Subject: [Mpls-pm] Report on  Meeting - Dec 13
References: <6F9E7326-15F0-4112-A437-0FF2DBB62871@omega.org>
Message-ID: <CC267A60-E454-4389-B501-408E293B07D9@omega.org>


Hi Everyone.

I thought the meeting December 13th went well.  We had both Arthur  
and Ardeshir there as first time visitors, plus Gary Allen and  
myself.  Arthur is from MN living in New Jersey and is a former  
employee of IBM and Bell Labs.  Ardeshir has written a web site to  
scan and display historicaly important images for a local library.   
He is currently working a a social networking website.  Gary is still  
doing his same stuff he has been on for the last nine months.

I thought it was nice to have 4 people to get to know people a bit  
better.  With more people it seems like we jump around our topics  
much more (although we did that too).

Looking forward to next month.  What's up next month, Ian?  And where  
is Dave R. at lately?  Is he still around?

Cordially,

  -Matt Johnson





Begin forwarded message:

> From: Matthew Johnson <matt at omega.org>
> Date: December 12, 2006 5:42:11 PM CST
> To: MinneaMongers <mpls-pm at pm.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mpls-pm] Meeting - Nov 13?
> X-Spam-Score: 0.0
> X-Delivered-To: matt at omega.org
>
>
> Yes, will be there at Espresso Royale, 7pm, Dec 13.
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Gary Vollink wrote:
>
>> Tomorrow is already the second Wednesday of the month, and normally
>> the day where this group meets up and drinks coffee.
>>
>> I'm planning on being there.  Anybody else?
>>
>>   http://minneapolis.pm.org/  for details.
>>
>> Later,
>> Gary Allen
>> _______________________________________________
>> Mpls-pm mailing list
>> Mpls-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mpls-pm mailing list
> Mpls-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm


From autarch at urth.org  Fri Dec 15 09:59:44 2006
From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:59:44 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mpls-pm] Report on  Meeting - Dec 13
In-Reply-To: <CC267A60-E454-4389-B501-408E293B07D9@omega.org>
References: <6F9E7326-15F0-4112-A437-0FF2DBB62871@omega.org>
	<CC267A60-E454-4389-B501-408E293B07D9@omega.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612151159020.32418@urth.org>

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Matthew Johnson wrote:

> Looking forward to next month.  What's up next month, Ian?  And where
> is Dave R. at lately?  Is he still around?

Wasn't I there last month?

On Wednesday I had a meeting for my animal rights group right before the 
MPM time, so the timing didn't work out.


-dave

/*===================================================
VegGuide.Org                        www.BookIRead.com
Your guide to all that's veg.       My book blog
===================================================*/

From ian at indecorous.com  Fri Dec 15 10:12:13 2006
From: ian at indecorous.com (Ian Malpass)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:12:13 -0600
Subject: [Mpls-pm] Report on  Meeting - Dec 13
In-Reply-To: <CC267A60-E454-4389-B501-408E293B07D9@omega.org>
References: <6F9E7326-15F0-4112-A437-0FF2DBB62871@omega.org>
	<CC267A60-E454-4389-B501-408E293B07D9@omega.org>
Message-ID: <4582E57D.9020100@indecorous.com>

Matthew Johnson wrote:

> Looking forward to next month.  What's up next month, Ian?

Technical meeting! No, really! With talks and everything!

I have a couple of talks lined up and will be badgering those speakers 
soon. If you've promised me a talk and I don't badger you shortly, do 
give me a yell, won't you?

There are never enough speakers, so if you've got something to say, do 
let me know. Doesn't have to be much - any topics welcome :)

Ian


From matt at omega.org  Fri Dec 15 10:21:37 2006
From: matt at omega.org (Matthew Johnson)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:21:37 -0600
Subject: [Mpls-pm] Report on  Meeting - Dec 13
In-Reply-To: <4582E57D.9020100@indecorous.com>
References: <6F9E7326-15F0-4112-A437-0FF2DBB62871@omega.org>
	<CC267A60-E454-4389-B501-408E293B07D9@omega.org>
	<4582E57D.9020100@indecorous.com>
Message-ID: <9DF82853-D3A2-47BA-9A27-A3DBF514381C@omega.org>

Your reply reminds me of that thinkgeek shirt about shell scripts 
[1].  Maybe this is for a future meeting, but couldn't we write a  
auto-badger script? (In perl of course.)  Maybe we would need a  
robotics component as well for real-world badgering.

  -Matt :)


[1] http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/374d/

On Dec 15, 2006, at 12:12 PM, Ian Malpass wrote:

> Matthew Johnson wrote:
>
>> Looking forward to next month.  What's up next month, Ian?
>
> Technical meeting! No, really! With talks and everything!
>
> I have a couple of talks lined up and will be badgering those speakers
> soon. If you've promised me a talk and I don't badger you shortly, do
> give me a yell, won't you?
>
> There are never enough speakers, so if you've got something to say, do
> let me know. Doesn't have to be much - any topics welcome :)
>
> Ian
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mpls-pm mailing list
> Mpls-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm


From ian at indecorous.com  Fri Dec 15 12:39:00 2006
From: ian at indecorous.com (Ian Malpass)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:39:00 -0600
Subject: [Mpls-pm] Report on  Meeting - Dec 13
In-Reply-To: <9DF82853-D3A2-47BA-9A27-A3DBF514381C@omega.org>
References: <6F9E7326-15F0-4112-A437-0FF2DBB62871@omega.org>
	<CC267A60-E454-4389-B501-408E293B07D9@omega.org>
	<4582E57D.9020100@indecorous.com>
	<9DF82853-D3A2-47BA-9A27-A3DBF514381C@omega.org>
Message-ID: <458307E4.60106@indecorous.com>

Matthew Johnson wrote:
> Your reply reminds me of that thinkgeek shirt about shell scripts[1].  
> Maybe this is for a future meeting, but couldn't we write a auto-badger 
> script? (In perl of course.)

Well, cron and Mail::Mailer (or whatever your email-sending module of 
choice is) would do it. Really, all it needs to do is send a mail on the 
second Tuesday of each month apologising for not having organised a 
technical meeting and promising one for the next month.

Right. This seems suitable lightning talk: someone needs to volunteer to 
demonstrate the use of the Mail::Mailer (or Email::Send or whatever) 
module, with a case study of a script that can be cron'd monthly to send 
an apologetic email. Or MIME::Lite if you fancy. Or all three. Or more.

> Maybe we would need a robotics component as well for real-world badgering.

I for one welcome our robotic badger overlords.

Ian

From twists at gmail.com  Fri Dec 15 12:42:15 2006
From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:42:15 -0800
Subject: [Mpls-pm] Report on Meeting - Dec 13
In-Reply-To: <458307E4.60106@indecorous.com>
References: <6F9E7326-15F0-4112-A437-0FF2DBB62871@omega.org>
	<CC267A60-E454-4389-B501-408E293B07D9@omega.org>
	<4582E57D.9020100@indecorous.com>
	<9DF82853-D3A2-47BA-9A27-A3DBF514381C@omega.org>
	<458307E4.60106@indecorous.com>
Message-ID: <dc5c751d0612151242g8d75ad3pa615ae9e40d8001b@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/15/06, Ian Malpass <ian at indecorous.com> wrote:
> Matthew Johnson wrote:
> > Your reply reminds me of that thinkgeek shirt about shell scripts[1].
> > Maybe this is for a future meeting, but couldn't we write a auto-badger
> > script? (In perl of course.)
>
> Well, cron and Mail::Mailer (or whatever your email-sending module of
> choice is) would do it. Really, all it needs to do is send a mail on the
> second Tuesday of each month apologising for not having organised a
> technical meeting and promising one for the next month.
>
> Right. This seems suitable lightning talk: someone needs to volunteer to
> demonstrate the use of the Mail::Mailer (or Email::Send or whatever)
> module, with a case study of a script that can be cron'd monthly to send
> an apologetic email. Or MIME::Lite if you fancy. Or all three. Or more.
>
> > Maybe we would need a robotics component as well for real-world badgering.
>
> I for one welcome our robotic badger overlords.

Give it Algorithm::MarkovChain and the stuff people have previously
sent in about promises and apologies and then you've got some
automated email content.

Josh

From craig at wavefront.net  Fri Dec 15 14:39:10 2006
From: craig at wavefront.net (Craig S. Wilson)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:39:10 -0600
Subject: [Mpls-pm] Report on  Meeting - Dec 13
In-Reply-To: <458307E4.60106@indecorous.com>
References: <6F9E7326-15F0-4112-A437-0FF2DBB62871@omega.org>	<CC267A60-E454-4389-B501-408E293B07D9@omega.org>	<4582E57D.9020100@indecorous.com>	<9DF82853-D3A2-47BA-9A27-A3DBF514381C@omega.org>
	<458307E4.60106@indecorous.com>
Message-ID: <4583240E.50502@wavefront.net>


Sorry I missed the last meeting, especially since I have recharged my 'Working for People Named Gary Rants' (tm) (c) (sm).

Ian Malpass wrote:
> Matthew Johnson wrote:

> Right. This seems suitable lightning talk: someone needs to volunteer to 
> demonstrate the use of the Mail::Mailer (or Email::Send or whatever) 
> module, with a case study of a script that can be cron'd monthly to send 
> an apologetic email. Or MIME::Lite if you fancy. Or all three. Or more.

I actually purchased licenses to Calcium, which is a web based calendar system written in Perl, with lots of fancy 
colors and doo-dads and it includes multiple e-mail notifications.  I will set up a calendar for Perl-Mongers and give 
you Administrative control, if you wish.


>> Maybe we would need a robotics component as well for real-world badgering.
> 
> I for one welcome our robotic badger overlords.

Would these robotic badger overlords come streaming across the border from Wisconsin in Packer Jerseys and wearing 
cheese hats?

I think in Minnesota, we should opt for the robotic Gopher overlords, although I don't remember gopher having any mail 
sending or scheduling capability.

-- 

---------------------------------------
Craig S. Wilson     craig at wavefront.net


From admin at lctn.org  Tue Dec 19 08:41:36 2006
From: admin at lctn.org (admin at lctn.org)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:41:36 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mpls-pm] perl module problem
Message-ID: <41556.64.8.148.29.1166546496.squirrel@lctn.org>

Not being a perl pro I submitted this question to the mailscanner news
group, but no one has posted an answer to the problem. Googling around
didn't help either. I am hoping someone on this list knows what I should
be looking for.

Thanks in advance.

Raymond.


<original post>
I am setting up an extra mailscanner server on a box that has some
existing apps on it. Perl is located at the following location:



/data/wre/prereqs/perl/bin/perl


I am getting the following error when starting mailscanner:


Could not use Custom Function code
MailScanner::CustomConfig::InitSQLWhitelist, it could not be "eval"ed.
Make sure the module is correct with perl -wc

"which perl" shows the proper path.

I am guessing I need to edit a file or two????
</original post>

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From trammell at el-swifto.com  Tue Dec 19 10:14:30 2006
From: trammell at el-swifto.com (John J. Trammell)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:14:30 -0600
Subject: [Mpls-pm] perl module problem
In-Reply-To: <41556.64.8.148.29.1166546496.squirrel@lctn.org>
References: <41556.64.8.148.29.1166546496.squirrel@lctn.org>
Message-ID: <20061219181430.GA6081@mail.el-swifto.com>

On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 10:41:36AM -0600, admin at lctn.org wrote:
> Not being a perl pro I submitted this question to the mailscanner news
> group, but no one has posted an answer to the problem. Googling around
> didn't help either. I am hoping someone on this list knows what I
> should be looking for.

That's odd, when I Google for "MailScanner InitSQLWhitelist" I get two
hits.

-- 
If your CL50 character with 1200 HP and 3,000,000 gold still has time
to run around (at speed +30) and kill all the townsfolk whenever he
recalls - now that's commitment.               -- wpeterson1, on RGRA

From admin at lctn.org  Tue Dec 19 11:52:01 2006
From: admin at lctn.org (admin at lctn.org)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:52:01 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mpls-pm] perl module problem
In-Reply-To: <20061219181430.GA6081@mail.el-swifto.com>
References: <41556.64.8.148.29.1166546496.squirrel@lctn.org>
	<20061219181430.GA6081@mail.el-swifto.com>
Message-ID: <55159.64.8.148.29.1166557921.squirrel@lctn.org>


> That's odd, when I Google for "MailScanner InitSQLWhitelist" I get two
> hits.

Thanks. I used MailScanner::CustomConfig::InitSQLWhitelist, and got zilch.

The problem is related to the SQLBlackWhiteList. I will see if someone can
help me on the mailwatch list.


Thanks again.




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From ian at indecorous.com  Tue Dec 19 11:09:51 2006
From: ian at indecorous.com (Ian Malpass)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:09:51 -0600
Subject: [Mpls-pm] perl module problem
In-Reply-To: <41556.64.8.148.29.1166546496.squirrel@lctn.org>
References: <41556.64.8.148.29.1166546496.squirrel@lctn.org>
Message-ID: <458838FF.4080401@indecorous.com>

admin at lctn.org wrote:
> I am setting up an extra mailscanner server on a box that has some
> existing apps on it. Perl is located at the following location:
> 
> /data/wre/prereqs/perl/bin/perl
> 
> I am getting the following error when starting mailscanner:
> 
> Could not use Custom Function code
> MailScanner::CustomConfig::InitSQLWhitelist, it could not be "eval"ed.
> Make sure the module is correct with perl -wc
> 
> "which perl" shows the proper path.
> 
> I am guessing I need to edit a file or two????

My guess is either that the module got mangled during installation, or 
it's not where Mailscanner thinks it is.

Did you try doing perl -wc as it suggested? You'd need to find where the 
file describing MailScanner::CustomConfig::InitSQLWhitelist is 
(MailScanner/CustomConfig/InitSQLWhitelist.pm somewhere in your 
installation, at a guess) and then

     perl -wc [filename]

It'll do a syntax check for you and make sure all's OK.

I think it's more likely that the file just isn't where Mailscanner 
thinks it should be. Not having using Mailscanner, I can't proffer you 
any advice for how to remedy that problem.

Ian