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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sounds like a plan, Tony. I’ll have
a look over EUMM (hope I pass my sanity roll on that one, I can’t afford
to lose any more points).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Gavin, what we discussed at the Perl 20<sup>th</sup>
beano was that we’d do a preliminary recce to see what needed doing and
then divide it up into writing tests, writing docs and running the tests on
different platforms, so I guess it’s worth waiting to see what the
intrepid code explorers report back. There will definitely be something for
everyone to do. Tom is the Perl testing guru round here so we’ll follow
his pointers and hopefully all learn a lot.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The test file for Apache2::AuthCookieDBI is
a non-test, as Tony said, and thus a good candidate for improvement.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The related test for Apache::AuthCookieDBI
is better: <a
href="http://search.cpan.org/src/MATISSE/Apache-AuthCookieDBI-2.1/test.pl">http://search.cpan.org/src/MATISSE/Apache-AuthCookieDBI-2.1/test.pl</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’d normally expect to see tests in
a ‘t’ sub-directory accessible by ‘make test’ from
Makefile.PL, e.g. the suite for DBI <a
href="http://search.cpan.org/src/TIMB/DBI-1.601/">http://search.cpan.org/src/TIMB/DBI-1.601/</a>
which uses Test::Simple. But I’m jumping the gun here </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards, Peter<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> miltonkeynes-pm-bounces+peter=dragonstaff.com@pm.org
[mailto:miltonkeynes-pm-bounces+peter=dragonstaff.com@pm.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gavin Westwood<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 20 December 2007 14:10<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> miltonkeynes-pm@pm.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Coding Together</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 20/12/2007 10:33, Edwardson, Tony wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>As discussed the other night, we
probably want to check out the 4 modules to see :-<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>What
testing already exists<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>What
the testing coverage is like<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>What
needs to be done<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>How
hard it is likely to be<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Tom has volunteered to do this for
Log::Dispatch, I’ll investigate </span></font><font size=2
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Apache2::AuthCookieDBI,
so can I suggest that Olie looks at Perl::Metrics::Simple and Peter looks at
ExtUtils::MakeMaker.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
How about the three of us who are learning? Should we each hook up with
one of yourselves?<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>A quick look at
Apache2::AuthCookieDBI reveals a very complicated test suite as follows :-<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>BEGIN { $| = 1; print
"1..1\n"; }<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>END {print "not ok
1\n" unless $loaded;}<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'># use Apache::AuthCookieDBI;
# commented; can't really run this without Apache<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>$loaded = 1;<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>print "ok 1\n";<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>and that is it !</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
Ok, I don't get the first line, and the second one looks out of place (but a
quick google confirmed what I thought that it would get run at the end of the
procedure), but from what I can see this will always print "ok 1"?<br>
<br>
Gavin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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