From michael at galton.ucl.ac.uk Tue Nov 1 02:43:14 2005 From: michael at galton.ucl.ac.uk (michael) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:43:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: The Quatermass Experiment In-Reply-To: <20051028130415.GA95167@eborcom.com> References: <20051017173603.GA14445@eborcom.com> <20051026152558.GA38056@eborcom.com> <4361EF9D.6040305@ngo.org.uk> <20051028130415.GA95167@eborcom.com> Message-ID: <20051101104115.F27530@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> OK I've already posted this to London.pm, but some mk.pmers may not subscribe and I'm willing to be none read it all so.... Early this year BBC 4 did a remake of the The Quatermass Experiment. What was even cooler is they did it as live television drama (as was the 1953 original). For bonus points they had David Tennant playing _a_ doctor. They are repeating it tonight. Worth watching. Tuesday 1 November 2005 10.10pm-11.50pm; 2.30am-4.10am http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/cinema/features/quatermass.shtml ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Michael John Lush PhD Tel:44-20-7679-5027 Nomenclature Bioinformatician Fax:44-20-7387-3496 HUGO Gene Nomenclature Committee Email: nome at galton.ucl.ac.uk The Galton Laboratory University College London, UK URL: http://www.gene.ucl.ac.uk/nomenclature/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From tom at eborcom.com Tue Nov 1 10:23:56 2005 From: tom at eborcom.com (Tom Hukins) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:23:56 +0000 Subject: Forthcoming London Perl Events Message-ID: <20051101182356.GA22795@eborcom.com> I thought I should let everyone know about a couple of interesting events taking place in London over the next month. On Saturday 26th November, the London Perl Workshop takes place. This one-day event contains two tracks of talks (Learning Perl and Advanced Perl) and costs nothing to attend thanks to its sponsors. This year's event takes place near Euston, so it's easy to get to from MK: http://london.pm.org/lpw/cfp.html If you're interested, don't forget to sign up: http://london.pm.org/lpw/signup.html The organisers are looking for speakers - particularly those who don't normally speak at Perl events. Those of us who work with the Web should attend the London Web Frameworks Night on Thursday 17th November, which compares frameworks in Perl (Catalyst), Django (Python) and Ruby (bloggers' darling Rails). It takes place at Morgan Stanley, which is a little out of the way in Docklands, but a great venue to listen to talks. The formal announcement for this should appear soon, but in the mean time you can read about it here: http://blog.unixdaemon.net/cgi-bin/blosxom.pl/events/frameworks_night_short.html and sign up for it here: http://london.pm.org/signup/ And of course there's the next Milton Keynes Perl Mongers meeting on Thursday 24th November. See the Web site for details. See you soon, Tom From nik at ngo.org.uk Wed Nov 2 03:21:02 2005 From: nik at ngo.org.uk (Nik Clayton) Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 11:21:02 +0000 Subject: Lunching in MK tomorrow (Thurs) Message-ID: <4368A11E.1060206@ngo.org.uk> Morning all, Anyone up for lunch tomorrow somewhere in MK? N From michael at galton.ucl.ac.uk Wed Nov 2 03:23:23 2005 From: michael at galton.ucl.ac.uk (michael) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 11:23:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Lunching in MK tomorrow (Thurs) In-Reply-To: <4368A11E.1060206@ngo.org.uk> References: <4368A11E.1060206@ngo.org.uk> Message-ID: <20051102112112.W39907@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> I'd be happy to go out for lunch -- Michael On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Nik Clayton wrote: > Morning all, > > Anyone up for lunch tomorrow somewhere in MK? > > N > _______________________________________________ > MiltonKeynes-pm mailing list > MiltonKeynes-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/miltonkeynes-pm > From mkpm-20051014 at djce.org.uk Wed Nov 2 04:16:17 2005 From: mkpm-20051014 at djce.org.uk (Dave Evans) Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:16:17 +0000 Subject: Lunching in MK tomorrow (Thurs) In-Reply-To: <4368A11E.1060206@ngo.org.uk> References: <4368A11E.1060206@ngo.org.uk> Message-ID: <4368AE11.3040608@djce.org.uk> Nik Clayton wrote: > Morning all, > > Anyone up for lunch tomorrow somewhere in MK? Sure. I'd be happy with Wetherspoons, but that's probably because I work right next door :-) As for where, I'm pretty flexible, as long as it's not McFloorSweepings. -- Dave From nik at ngo.org.uk Wed Nov 2 04:54:43 2005 From: nik at ngo.org.uk (Nik Clayton) Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:54:43 +0000 Subject: Lunching in MK tomorrow (Thurs) In-Reply-To: <4368A11E.1060206@ngo.org.uk> References: <4368A11E.1060206@ngo.org.uk> Message-ID: <4368B713.1030004@ngo.org.uk> Nik Clayton wrote: > Anyone up for lunch tomorrow somewhere in MK? Well, that's me, Dave, Michael, and Tom so far, which sounds like a start. Anyone else? Some sort of oriental buffet perhaps? Tom pointed me at: http://www.mkcuisine.co.uk/Oriental/royallido.html as a suggestion. N From michael at galton.ucl.ac.uk Wed Nov 2 07:47:16 2005 From: michael at galton.ucl.ac.uk (michael) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:47:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Lunching in MK tomorrow (Thurs) In-Reply-To: <4368B713.1030004@ngo.org.uk> References: <4368A11E.1060206@ngo.org.uk> <4368B713.1030004@ngo.org.uk> Message-ID: <20051102154642.X39907@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Nik Clayton wrote: > Nik Clayton wrote: > > Anyone up for lunch tomorrow somewhere in MK? > > Well, that's me, Dave, Michael, and Tom so far, which sounds like a > start. Anyone else? > > Some sort of oriental buffet perhaps? Tom pointed me at: > > http://www.mkcuisine.co.uk/Oriental/royallido.html > > as a suggestion. Sounds good to me, Its a bit more glam than Wetherspoons... -- Michael From rod at norfor.net Wed Nov 2 08:33:59 2005 From: rod at norfor.net (Rod Norfor) Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 16:33:59 +0000 Subject: Lunching in MK tomorrow (Thurs) In-Reply-To: <4368B713.1030004@ngo.org.uk> References: <4368A11E.1060206@ngo.org.uk> <4368B713.1030004@ngo.org.uk> Message-ID: <4368EA77.5060300@norfor.net> Nik Clayton wrote: >Nik Clayton wrote: > > >>Anyone up for lunch tomorrow somewhere in MK? >> >> > >Well, that's me, Dave, Michael, and Tom so far, which sounds like a >start. Anyone else? > > Can't make tommorrow, but would be great to do again in the future. >Some sort of oriental buffet perhaps? Tom pointed me at: > >http://www.mkcuisine.co.uk/Oriental/royallido.html > >as a suggestion. > > >N >_______________________________________________ >MiltonKeynes-pm mailing list >MiltonKeynes-pm at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/miltonkeynes-pm > > > From mkpm-20051014 at djce.org.uk Thu Nov 3 01:32:21 2005 From: mkpm-20051014 at djce.org.uk (Dave Evans) Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:32:21 +0000 Subject: Lunching in MK tomorrow (Thurs) In-Reply-To: <20051102154642.X39907@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> References: <4368A11E.1060206@ngo.org.uk> <4368B713.1030004@ngo.org.uk> <20051102154642.X39907@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4369D925.30309@djce.org.uk> michael wrote: >>http://www.mkcuisine.co.uk/Oriental/royallido.html Sounds good. What time? I'm OK with anything from 12-3. How about 1 o'clock? Seeing as I forgot to wear my thinkgeek t-shirt today, we'll have to recognise each other another way. Here's a piccie of me with somewhat shorter hair than I have now: http://musicbrainz.org/wd/MusicBrainzBio#head-b46af772fa3f5f9929735243254cd7e93cbb2336 From nik at ngo.org.uk Thu Nov 3 01:42:22 2005 From: nik at ngo.org.uk (Nik Clayton) Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:42:22 +0000 Subject: Lunching in MK tomorrow (Thurs) In-Reply-To: <20051102154642.X39907@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> References: <4368A11E.1060206@ngo.org.uk> <4368B713.1030004@ngo.org.uk> <20051102154642.X39907@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4369DB7E.7040403@ngo.org.uk> michael wrote: >>Well, that's me, Dave, Michael, and Tom so far, which sounds like a >>start. Anyone else? >> >>Some sort of oriental buffet perhaps? Tom pointed me at: >> >>http://www.mkcuisine.co.uk/Oriental/royallido.html >> >>as a suggestion. > > Sounds good to me, Its a bit more glam than Wetherspoons... As my partner's just reminded me, the last time we ate there we were quite ill the next day. So, instead of that one, lets go to... Elements, in the Theatre District, http://www.elementseatery.co.uk/. I was there earlier this year, it's another oriental buffet, and if memory serves it was all good. I'll aim to get there for 12.30 -- I'll be the tall geek reading the Template Toolkit book or fiddling with a laptop :-). Hope to see you there. N From michael at galton.ucl.ac.uk Thu Nov 3 02:05:34 2005 From: michael at galton.ucl.ac.uk (michael) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:05:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Lunching in MK tomorrow (Thurs) In-Reply-To: <4369DB7E.7040403@ngo.org.uk> References: <4368A11E.1060206@ngo.org.uk> <4368B713.1030004@ngo.org.uk> <20051102154642.X39907@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> <4369DB7E.7040403@ngo.org.uk> Message-ID: <20051103100434.U34311@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Nik Clayton wrote: > As my partner's just reminded me, the last time we ate there we were > quite ill the next day. So, instead of that one, lets go to... > > Elements, in the Theatre District, http://www.elementseatery.co.uk/. I > was there earlier this year, it's another oriental buffet, and if memory > serves it was all good. > > I'll aim to get there for 12.30 -- I'll be the tall geek reading the > Template Toolkit book or fiddling with a laptop :-). > I have no identifying features and therefore will bring an onion -- Michael From tom at eborcom.com Thu Nov 3 07:41:26 2005 From: tom at eborcom.com (Tom Hukins) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:41:26 +0000 Subject: Lunching in MK tomorrow (Thurs) In-Reply-To: <4369DB7E.7040403@ngo.org.uk> References: <4368A11E.1060206@ngo.org.uk> <4368B713.1030004@ngo.org.uk> <20051102154642.X39907@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> <4369DB7E.7040403@ngo.org.uk> Message-ID: <20051103154126.GA70469@eborcom.com> On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 09:42:22AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > Elements, in the Theatre District, http://www.elementseatery.co.uk/. I > was there earlier this year, it's another oriental buffet, and if memory > serves it was all good. Thanks for arranging this, Nik. I enjoyed it. And, Robbie, thanks for paying for all the food. :) Tom From michael at galton.ucl.ac.uk Fri Nov 4 03:02:50 2005 From: michael at galton.ucl.ac.uk (michael) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:02:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Bletchley Park Visit In-Reply-To: <20051103154126.GA70469@eborcom.com> References: <4368A11E.1060206@ngo.org.uk> <4368B713.1030004@ngo.org.uk> <20051102154642.X39907@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> <4369DB7E.7040403@ngo.org.uk> <20051103154126.GA70469@eborcom.com> Message-ID: <20051104105824.Y14614@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> As you may or may not know I've been volenteered myself to organize a Geek tour of Bletchley Park (with invites to other .pm groups). Bletchley Park is closed till April 1st for renovations however they are still running a number of Lectures that some may find interesting November 10, 2005 Some Eminent Code Breakers, Dr Brian Oakley Most people at a BP Evening-lecture-series talk will know about the feats that the outstanding individuals, who Brian will speak about, performed at BP. But what about their origins, and their careers after they left the Park? The talk will speculate about what were the reasons why they were such successful members of the BP team. December 1, 2005 WWII Film Evening, presented by the Projected Picture Trust, Ken Draper Includes: "The First Days" (1939), the earliest notable British wartime documentary; "Heart of Britain" (1941), looking at how we coped in the midst of the War; "The Fire of London" (1945), an account of the great fire raid on London in Dec. 1940; "Dustbin Parade" (1942), animation supporting the war effort; and "Burma Victory" (1945), a full-length Army Film Unit documentary with much authentic footage. January 12, 2006 The Battle for Crete, Tim Pulverman On 20 May 1940, Crete was invaded by Hitler's forces. The Allies had been forewarned by intelligence from Enigma decrypts at Bletchley a fortnight earlier. The course of events that unfolded is a classic example of the use and misuse of Ultra intelligence. February 9, 2006 The Ancient Art of Deception in Warfare, Hugh Davies What has Queen Christina of Sweden got to do with the Normandy invasion? What connects a three legged man with the invasion of Sicily? Why were the ATS girls in Cairo delighted to sing "Oh! Sir Jasper"? A prize for the first all correct answer submitted BEFORE the talk. March 9, 2006 The Interception of the Lorenz Cipher, John Pether A lecture on how the interception of enemy radio teleprinter (Lorenz cipher) communications was carried out by the Y Service. Also covers the work of the Metropolitan Police and the establishment of Knockholt intercept station. April 13, 2006 The Lorenz Cipher and the Role of Colossus, Frank Carter The successful breaking of the Lorenz cipher was probably BP's finest achievement. It was the result of a combination of innovative mathematics and pioneering electronics. The lecture will provide an outline account of this work, together with an example of how it contributed to the success of the D-Day operations. Information The venue for the lectures is the Drawing Room in The Mansion at Bletchley Park. All lectures start at 7:30 pm. Admission charges are as follows: * Single lecture, including glass of wine or coffee: 6.00 * Season ticket for 6 lectures: 26.00 Friends of Bletchley Park receive a 50% discount. -- Michael From peterdragon at users.sourceforge.net Fri Nov 18 14:35:32 2005 From: peterdragon at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Edwards) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:35:32 -0000 Subject: Intro Message-ID: <016f01c5ec90$64381550$6501a8c0@metis> Hi, my name's Peter and I'm another perlmonger living in MK. Hopefully I'll get to make one of your pub meets :) I've spent the last 5 years writing business systems using perl and web technology. My current interest is in the Catalyst framework and adapting it as the base for a web business system. http://search.cpan.org/~pedwards/ Cheers, Peter peterdragon at users.sourceforge.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/miltonkeynes-pm/attachments/20051118/543e7155/attachment.html From jns at gellyfish.com Fri Nov 18 15:07:22 2005 From: jns at gellyfish.com (Jonathan Stowe) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:07:22 +0000 Subject: Intro In-Reply-To: <016f01c5ec90$64381550$6501a8c0@metis> References: <016f01c5ec90$64381550$6501a8c0@metis> Message-ID: <1132355242.8361.1427.camel@orpheus.its-going-to-be-fabulous.com> On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 22:35, Peter Edwards wrote: > > My current interest is in the Catalyst framework and adapting it as > the base for a web business system. > I'd get your arse down to London.pm if you want to get involved in some real bitching about "web frameworks" /J\ -- This e-mail is sponsored by http://www.integration-house.com/ From tom at eborcom.com Sun Nov 20 10:44:04 2005 From: tom at eborcom.com (Tom Hukins) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:44:04 +0000 Subject: Intro In-Reply-To: <016f01c5ec90$64381550$6501a8c0@metis> References: <016f01c5ec90$64381550$6501a8c0@metis> Message-ID: <20051120184403.GA15620@eborcom.com> On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 10:35:32PM -0000, Peter Edwards wrote: > Hi, my name's Peter and I'm another perlmonger living in MK. Hi, Peter. It's great to hear from you. > Hopefully I'll get to make one of your pub meets :) Perfect timing: the next one takes place this Thursday. > My current interest is in the Catalyst framework and adapting it as > the base for a web business system. One of the talks at next Saturday's London Perl Workshop describes building an award-winning TV listings site with Catalyst, so you might want to come along to that: http://london.pm.org/lpw/ It costs nothing to attend, but you have to register beforehand. It's not far from Euston, either. Tom From michael at galton.ucl.ac.uk Mon Nov 21 04:27:24 2005 From: michael at galton.ucl.ac.uk (michael) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:27:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: London Perl Workshop (Was Re: intro) In-Reply-To: <20051120184403.GA15620@eborcom.com> References: <016f01c5ec90$64381550$6501a8c0@metis> <20051120184403.GA15620@eborcom.com> Message-ID: <20051120185127.R90120@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Tom Hukins wrote: > One of the talks at next Saturday's London Perl Workshop describes > building an award-winning TV listings site with Catalyst, so you might > want to come along to that: > http://london.pm.org/lpw/ Speaking of the LPW who is going and what train are we going on? I had a poke round http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/ The talks start at 10am so a 9:30 arrival at Euston seems reasonable given that, the last train we can get is the 8:51 from CMK station (Virgin) or 8:32 (Silverlink) Personally I'm rather tempted by the Virgin (Mmmmmm plush seats)... -- Michael From I.A.Cameron at open.ac.uk Mon Nov 21 06:36:43 2005 From: I.A.Cameron at open.ac.uk (Ian Cameron) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:36:43 +0000 Subject: London Perl Workshop (Was Re: intro) In-Reply-To: <20051120185127.R90120@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> References: <016f01c5ec90$64381550$6501a8c0@metis> <20051120184403.GA15620@eborcom.com> <20051120185127.R90120@ash.gene.ucl.ac.uk> Message-ID: <200511211437.OAA27233@damson.open.ac.uk> michael said: > Personally I'm rather tempted by the Virgin (Mmmmmm plush seats)... And a mains socket for the laptop :-) -- Cheers, Ian. From tom at eborcom.com Tue Nov 22 04:46:28 2005 From: tom at eborcom.com (Tom Hukins) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:46:28 +0000 Subject: Meeting: Thursday 24th November Message-ID: <20051122124628.GA63457@eborcom.com> November has almost finished, so it's time for another Milton Keynes Perl Mongers meeting on Thursday evening. We're meeting at the same place as last time: The Wetherspoon's on Midsummer Boulevard (not the one in the snow dome or anywhere else): http://maps.google.com/maps?q=wetherspoons%2C+milton+keynes&btnG=Search&sll=37.062500%2C-95.677068&sspn=64.704725%2C105.292969&f=q&hl=en&cid=52041471,-760468,10141597545315531158&li=lmd&z=3 The pub is in Central Milton Keynes: several bus routes run past it and it's very close to Milton Keynes railway station. I'll be there from 7.30 in the evening, but feel free to show up earlier or later. If you're worried about finding us, ask for my mobile number off-list. Last time we ended up talking about various things related and unrelated to Perl. I imagine it'll be much the same this time. I look forward to seeing as many of you as possible, but if you can't make it, say hello on Saturday at the London Perl Workshop (but don't forget to sign up first): http://london.pm.org/lpw/ Tom From I.A.Cameron at open.ac.uk Tue Nov 29 08:37:14 2005 From: I.A.Cameron at open.ac.uk (Ian Cameron) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:37:14 +0000 Subject: RAD tools for GUI's Message-ID: Hi, At the last meeting there was some discussion regarding RAD tools for creating screens. I couldn't think of the name of what it was that I had played with before, but knew it could be used with Perl and various other languages. It's Glade that I was trying to think of. I forget now whether that discussion was web based rather than application based... http://glade.gnome.org/ It's an interface builder for GTK and Gnome. I played with it and thought it was pretty good, but I couldn't think of anything practical to with it at the time! Anyone else tried it? Just thought it might be of interest. -- Cheers, Ian. From jns at gellyfish.com Wed Nov 30 02:20:51 2005 From: jns at gellyfish.com (Jonathan Stowe) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:20:51 +0000 Subject: RAD tools for GUI's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1133346051.2885.7.camel@orpheus.its-going-to-be-fabulous.com> On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 16:37, Ian Cameron wrote: > Hi, > > At the last meeting there was some discussion regarding RAD tools for creating > screens. I couldn't think of the name of what it was that I had played with > before, but knew it could be used with Perl and various other languages. It's > Glade that I was trying to think of. I forget now whether that discussion was > web based rather than application based... > > http://glade.gnome.org/ > > It's an interface builder for GTK and Gnome. > > I played with it and thought it was pretty good, but I couldn't think of > anything practical to with it at the time! > > Anyone else tried it? Just thought it might be of interest. Yeah, it's rather good. The nice thing is being able to use the interface definition files in any of the supported languages. I can't think of any widely used applications in Perl that use it though. /J\ -- This e-mail is sponsored by http://www.integration-house.com/ From peter at dragonstaff.co.uk Wed Nov 30 09:20:04 2005 From: peter at dragonstaff.co.uk (Peter Edwards) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:20:04 -0000 Subject: RAD tools for GUI's Message-ID: <008b01c5f5d2$4f4052c0$6501a8c0@metis> Thanks Ian, I'll give it a try and see, at first look it may be a goer. I was after something to layout a screen of containers, drag and drop database fields into them, set some display properties then store the definition in XML for rendering into HTML at run time. Cheers, Peter