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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hey. No worries, I’m leaning towards
the latter, but I’m thinking back to that tiff that broke out last week
about Java v Perl and the general consensus that some people learn things
differently to others, so it’s really a moot point and all about the individual
learning the code and not about the technical capabilities of the language.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Of course, this is the Perl board, so I’m
going to say its Perl. Don’t tell the guys at PHPMelb.org ;)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Patrick Donelan [mailto:pat@patspam.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 23 September 2008
11:46 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Nathan Bentley<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Melbourne-pm] more
computer programming stuff</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Nathan,<br>
<br>
I'm not either, and sorry if my tone sounded aggressive. <br>
<br>
I just don't see how PHP is fundamentally Flash friendly or un-friendly. If you
mean it's more Flash friendly because there are more 3rd-party libraries like
the AMF one available now, then shouldn't you be recommending Perl instead
because of the existance of the CPAN?<br>
<br>
If on the other hand you mean PHP is more Flash friendly because PHP has a less
steep learning curve and an abundance of entry-level learning resources, then
that's fine. I just think there's quite a distinction there.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Nathan Bentley <<a
href="mailto:nathanb@finite.com.au">nathanb@finite.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Hey.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>I'm not saying its better or worse, its just more Flash
friendly than it used to be. Given the ease of access to resources for PHP it
might be a good option for someone in Johns position to look at.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> melbourne-pm-bounces+nathanb=<a
href="http://finite.com.au" target="_blank">finite.com.au</a>@<a
href="http://pm.org" target="_blank">pm.org</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:melbourne-pm-bounces%2Bnathanb" target="_blank">melbourne-pm-bounces+nathanb</a>=<a
href="http://finite.com.au" target="_blank">finite.com.au</a>@<a
href="http://pm.org" target="_blank">pm.org</a>] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Patrick Donelan<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 23 September 2008
11:32 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Melbourne Perlmongers<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Melbourne-pm] more computer
programming stuff<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi
Nathan,<br>
<br>
I don't really see how those examples highlight any advantage of PHP over any
other server-side langage.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'><a
href="http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/flashmx_php.html"
target="_blank">http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/flashmx_php.html</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>In this
example Flash is just sending http requests and PHP processes them like any
other server-side language would.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Arial;color:navy'><a
href="http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/flashmx_php.html"
target="_blank"></a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'><a href="http://www.amfphp.org/" target="_blank">http://www.amfphp.org/</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>In this
example Flash serialises data into Action Message Format (AMF) and sends them
over http. PHP then processes the requests like any other server-side language
would, and serialises/deserialises AMF like any other server-side language
would (for example, a Perl script could use <a
href="http://search.cpan.org/%7Etypester/Data-AMF-0.02004/lib/Data/AMF.pm"
target="_blank">Data::AMF</a>).<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Regards</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;
font-weight:bold'>Nathan Bentley<br>
</span></font></b><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>CONSULTANT - <b><span style='font-weight:
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font-family:Arial;color:navy'>LVL 6, 411 COLLINS ST, MELBOURNE, VIC 3000<br>
TEL 03 9617 3900 FAX 03 9617 3999 <b><span
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
melbourne-pm-bounces+nathanb=<a href="http://finite.com.au" target="_blank">finite.com.au</a>@<a
href="http://pm.org" target="_blank">pm.org</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:melbourne-pm-bounces%2Bnathanb" target="_blank">melbourne-pm-bounces+nathanb</a>=<a
href="http://finite.com.au" target="_blank">finite.com.au</a>@<a
href="http://pm.org" target="_blank">pm.org</a>] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Patrick Donelan<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 23 September 2008
10:23 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Melbourne Perlmongers</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Melbourne-pm] more
computer programming stuff</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>PHP plays
with the creative languages more and more<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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What exactly do you mean by that?<br>
<br>
Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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