<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">You could also consider Eclipse with the perl EPIC plugin.<div><br><div><div>On 21/08/2008, at 7:32 PM, John Thornton wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="blue"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">Right, I feel that I might not be far off success. I used notepad++ and managed to get the file recognised as a .cgi file just as the files for cgi are that worked.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">I named it new433.cgi because I already had another hello.cgi file.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">ThenI got this which I have not seen before:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><h1 style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 24pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-weight: bold; "><b><font size="6" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 24pt; ">Server error!<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h1><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Error message:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>couldn't create child process: 720003: new433.cgi<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">If you think this is a server error, please contact the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:admin@localhost" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">webmaster</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><h2 style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-weight: bold; "><b><font size="5" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 18pt; ">Error 500<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h2><address style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: italic; "><i><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><a href="http://localhost/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">localhost</a><br>08/21/08 19:22:04<br>Apache/2.2.9 (Win32) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.2.9 OpenSSL/0.9.8h mod_autoindex_color PHP/5.2.6<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></address><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">Hmm, the only child process that I have met is in graphics where you try to get graphics making graphics a bit like a math iteration.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">I really don't think that I am far off getting this working for appearing in the browser. I mean, a lot of things have gone right now. The cgi file is in the right directory and recognised as a cgi file.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">Interestingly, when I tested new433.cgi in the command windows box I got a bit of a funny CGI message rather than success.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">But where to go from here? I dont know. None of this stops me from continuing with the other VTC lessons on perl; but I am just limited for the moment in seeing the fruit of my learning in the browser.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">It's interesting anyway. Thanks for help again and that notepad ++ that is a cool editor.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">John<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ian Macdonald [<a href="mailto:ickphum@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:ickphum@gmail.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, 21 August 2008 6:16 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>John Thornton<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Cc:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jacinta Richardson;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:melbourne-pm@pm.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">melbourne-pm@pm.org</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Melbourne-pm] interesting apache outcome</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Without delving into the murky waters of editor preferences, an immediate win would be to use notepad++ instead, which is available here<a href="http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/download.php" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/download.php</a>.<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 6:09 PM, John Thornton <<a href="mailto:jdthornton@ozemail.com.au" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">jdthornton@ozemail.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div link="blue" vlink="blue"><div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">Yes, I was using notepad as my editor to make my files!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">Notepad is in general a good editor to use. For instance it worked in making .pl files that tested correctly for hello world in my command line.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">But I will follow your tip as notepad may have its limitations here.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">Hard to think of what else to use. I do have PSpad installed if I wanted to use something a bit fancier.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">John</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></font></div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ian Macdonald [mailto:<a href="mailto:ickphum@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">ickphum@gmail.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, 21 August 2008 5:54 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>John Thornton<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Cc:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jacinta Richardson;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:melbourne-pm@pm.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">melbourne-pm@pm.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Melbourne-pm] interesting apache outcome<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div></div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 5:49 PM, John Thornton <<a href="mailto:jdthornton@ozemail.com.au" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">jdthornton@ozemail.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Hmm..<br><br> I did as you suggested and got:<br><br> Object not found!<br><br>The requested URL was not found on this server. If you entered the URL<br>manually please check your spelling and try again.<br><br>If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster.<br>Error 404<br>localhost<br>08/21/08 17:44:37<br>Apache/2.2.9 (Win32) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.2.9 OpenSSL/0.9.8h mod_autoindex_color<br>PHP/5.2.6<br><br>***************<br>So I don't know. It seems to me that there is one difference between the<br>files that have succeeded as CGI browser formats in the explore CGI box:<br><br>the successful ones are listed as CGI files whereas the ones I tried such as<br>hello.cgi are still listed as text documents.<br><br>Thanks anyway<br>Any more suggestions and I will try them out.<br><font color="#888888"><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136); "><br>John</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div></div><div><div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><br>That sounds interesting; what editor are you using to create the files? It sounds like it might be Notepad or something else that likes to silently add .txt to all file names.<br><br>In the explorer window, go to the Tools menu and choose Folder Options. Now select the View tab and find "Hide extensions for known file types" and make sure this is not ticked. Click Apply, Ok, refresh the window and see if some of the files now display as name.cgi.txt. If so, remove the ".txt" part and try again.<br><br><br clear="all"><br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Ian Macdonald<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><br><br clear="all"><br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Ian Macdonald<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Melbourne-pm mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Melbourne-pm@pm.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Melbourne-pm@pm.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm</a></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>