[Melbourne-pm] Dancing around the event horizon

Kahlil Hodgson kahlil.hodgson at dealmax.com.au
Wed Jun 10 00:30:24 PDT 2015


Ah now at least 2 people will be at the Savoy tonight

Sent from my magical talking hand box
On 10/06/2015 5:16 pm, "Kahlil Hodgson" <kahlil.hodgson at dealmax.com.au>
wrote:

> Hmm doesn't look like there is much interest.  I suppose I'll skip it too.
>
>
> Kahlil (Kal) Hodgson                       GPG: C9A02289
> Head of Technology                         (m) +61 (0) 4 2573 0382
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>
> Suite 1416
> 401 Docklands Drive
> Docklands VIC 3008 Australia
>
> "All parts should go together without forcing.  You must remember that
> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.  Therefore,
> if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason.  By all
> means, do not use a hammer."  -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>
> On 10 June 2015 at 16:31, John Kaye <jkaye29 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Kal and Tim for trying to get PM going tonight.
>> But I won't be coming in to Perl Mongers, sorry.
>>
>> I am at home in Glen Waverley and I don't feel like coming in on a cold
>> night for a small turnout.
>>
>> Maybe next month.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>>
>> John Kaye
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Kahlil Hodgson <
>> kahlil.hodgson at dealmax.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Might be a bit cold outside at the Mitre and space inside is limited on
>>> Wednesdays. Another option might be the Savoy Tavern on the corner of
>>> Spencer and Bourke Streets.  Thoughts? Opinions?
>>>
>>>
>>> Kahlil (Kal) Hodgson                       GPG: C9A02289
>>> Head of Technology                         (m) +61 (0) 4 2573 0382
>>> DealMax Pty Ltd                            GitHub: @tartansandal
>>>
>>> Suite 1416
>>> 401 Docklands Drive
>>> Docklands VIC 3008 Australia
>>>
>>> "All parts should go together without forcing.  You must remember that
>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.  Therefore,
>>> if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason.  By all
>>> means, do not use a hammer."  -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>
>>> On 10 June 2015 at 11:29, Tim Connors <tim.w.connors at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep.  Where we go?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, Kahlil Hodgson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I'm keen if anyone else is.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Kahlil (Kal) Hodgson                       GPG: C9A02289
>>>> > Head of Technology                         (m) +61 (0) 4 2573 0382
>>>> > DealMax Pty Ltd                            GitHub: @tartansandal
>>>> >
>>>> > Suite 1416
>>>> > 401 Docklands Drive
>>>> > Docklands VIC 3008 Australia
>>>> >
>>>> > "All parts should go together without forcing.  You must remember that
>>>> > the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.  Therefore,
>>>> > if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason.  By all
>>>> > means, do not use a hammer."  -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>> >
>>>> > On 9 June 2015 at 17:41, John Kaye <jkaye29 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hi all,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Has a decision been made about a Perl Mongers meeting for tomorrow
>>>> > > (Wednesday) night?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > If it is going ahead, will it be at the Mitre Tavern or will
>>>> FastMail be
>>>> > > hosting the evening?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I am able to come this month and will attend if we have a meeting.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Cheers,
>>>> > > John Kaye.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Kahlil Hodgson <
>>>> > > kahlil.hodgson at dealmax.com.au> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On 5 June 2015 at 20:58, Peter Lawrence <pml540114 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> However, every single one of these faces those same political
>>>> problems
>>>> > >>> of acceptance, and many don't have fully optimised implementations
>>>> > >>> either.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> ​I remember a colleague raving about Forth about 8 years ago, but
>>>> I never
>>>> > >> had a chance to look into it.  There are so many interesting
>>>> languages to
>>>> > >> choose from these days. I managed to find an hour or two to play
>>>> with
>>>> > >> clojure on the weekend and had a great time. I just wish I could
>>>> justify
>>>> > >> exploring all these options during my working hours.  Perhaps
>>>> ironic that I
>>>> > >> may have the freedom to do just that once we get the funding
>>>> that's forcing
>>>> > >> us to use Python.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> The major realization for me is that my ability to make technical
>>>> > >> decisions is governed, not by my ability to make sound arguments,
>>>> but by
>>>> > >> whatever social and political power I can muster.  If I head up the
>>>> > >> technology for a successful company, I gain a lot of power to make
>>>> > >> decisions.  Even if the success of the company has nothing to do
>>>> with
>>>> > >> technology. Even if the company succeeded despite relying on
>>>> inferior
>>>> > >> technology.  Once I'm there, business people are less likely do
>>>> dismiss my
>>>> > >> arguments just be cause they conflict with sentiments alluded to
>>>> by the
>>>> > >> Financial Review or touted by their favourite "tame geek".
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> ​
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tim Connors
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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