[Melbourne-pm] apache and perl and

[adrian at ash-blue.org]

John (and other in this thread),

As a long time lurker and sometime contributor on Melb PM, I think that it
is entirely appropriate for a learner to start asking "dumb" questions on
this list (Remember - "There is no such thing as a dumb question"). You'll
find a group of helpful people, and a number of different solutions offered
for any level of problem. You'll also learn quickly

As evidenced by the replies so far, you have at your fingertips several
experts, professional trainers & recruiters, as well as links into a
vibrant Melbourne Open Source development community.

I would highly recommend (if you can do this) to bring your own computer to
the next PM meeting and you will find it easier to solve some of the basic
questions, and get you environment set up properly in a short time.

With any solution in Perl, There Is More Than One Way to Do It. My
preference for an environment (which fits on a USB stick & runs under
Windows) is PortableApps running XAMPP [1]. Assuming your USB ports at work
aren't locked, and you can run an application from a USB stick there, it
means you can take your exact environment quickly between work, home and
places like the PM meeting.

Good luck, Adrian.

[1] http://www.portableapps.com

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:13:29 +1000, Craig Sanders <cas at taz.net.au> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 05:27:25PM +1000, Ben Hare wrote:
>> is it necessary to work on your own pc? cos if not, you really are
>> going about this the hard way. if you don't have an environment at
>> work, how about a cheap web host? you'd have your hello world script
>> up and running in a few seconds most likely with the help of docs
>> telling you exactly how to get your cgis working.
> 
> another similar option would be to get an old PC and install linux on
> it. pretty much any old computer will do, even an ancient pentium with
> 64MB RAM and a network card will do for a lightly load home/experimental
> web server (that spec used to be considered adequate for real web sites
> out on the internet 10+ years ago....but, of course, the newer & faster
> & bigger, the better).
> 
> run ubuntu or debian linux on it (debian's probably easier to have a
> minimal install without graphical desktop, which is what you want for
> a server, especially on ancient hardware). the system doesn't need a
> screen or keyboard or even a CD-ROM except for the initial install - as
> soon as it's running, it doesn't need them any more.
> 
> after the base install you'd need apache, perl, various perl modules,
> and optionally samba (to provide file sharing from the linux server to
> your windows machine).
> 
> then you would either:
> 
> 1. install putty.exe onto your windows box to give you an ssh client so
> you login and get a command-line shell on the linux box from the windows
> machine. then use nano or some other simple editor to edit your perl
> scripts.
> 
> 2. install and configure samba on the linux box so that your apache
> DocumentRoot *AND* your cgi-bin directory appeared as network shares
> on your windows box - you could then edit the files on windows using
> Notepad++ or whatever and just save them directly to those shares.
> 
> 
> it may seem like more work to get this running, but it's probably no
> more work than stuffing around with apache + perl on windows.  Both
> of these things just work "out of the box" on linux because that is
> the environment they were designed for.
> 
> craig
> 
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> craig sanders <cas at taz.net.au>
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