[Melbourne-pm] Agile Perl

Alec Clews alecclews at gmail.com
Fri Jun 15 16:16:13 PDT 2007


G'Day

I posted a very brief summary about Agile Perl from the Wed meeting on
my blog 

(http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/2007/06/14/agile-in-the-perl-world/) 

and got a very cheeky reply from a Microsofty friend of mine.

"I wonder whether they would have said the same if you asked about
multisyllabic variable names?" 

Anyone want to fire back a shot?


On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 15:28 +1000, leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au wrote:
> I practice TDD all the time, am doing a huge refactoring effort right
> now using those principles (though I am still developing my own
> best-practice on that front) and I've done pair programming once, on a
> very successful  project -  it is still in use for a major (several $M
> client) with precisely one bug attributable to our development.
> Unfortunately I wont be there tonight, but if you want to meet
> sometime to talk, or talk via phone/skype/irc/whatever then let me
> know.
>  
> To my mind TDD is a slower (by about 20-30%), but far more accurate,
> way to develop - the slower develpment till you've finished coding is
> more than made up for in saved time during integration and acceptance
> testing - by orders of magnitude in my opinion. My experience is the
> code works exactly the way the spec told you to write it almost
> immediately, and your then left with fixing errors in what the spec
> told you to do. Which you can charge for, most probably at obscene
> rates....
>  
> L
> 
>         
>         ______________________________________________________________
>         From: alecclews at gmail.com [mailto:alecclews at gmail.com] 
>         Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2007 3:04 PM
>         To: melbourne-pm at pm.org
>         Subject: Re: [Melbourne-pm] Melbourne Perl Mongers AGM
>         *tonight*
>         
>         
>         
>         On the subject of talks.
>         
>         Does anyone have experience of applying Agile style practices
>         to Perl programming? e.g. Test Driven Development,
>         Re-factoring, Pair programming. I'd be interested in hearing
>         any insights or thoughts. Perhaps a BOF or round table
>         format? 
>         
>         On 13/06/07, Jacinta Richardson <jarich at perltraining.com.au>
>         wrote: 
>                 Just a quick addition.  If you are not yet a member
>                 and would like to be, you
>                 can join at the start of the AGM.  I believe
>                 membership is $10 (once-only).
>                 Paul will have membership forms available.
>                 
>                 You need to be a member in order to accept a
>                 nomination for a position on the 
>                 committee or to vote.  Scott will be able to tell us
>                 who has been elected
>                 unopposed to the various positions - based on
>                 nominations from last week - at
>                 the start of the meeting.
>                 
>                 All the best,
>                 
>                         Jacinta 
>                 
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