From alecclews at gmail.com Mon Jan 1 17:28:07 2007 From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:28:07 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? In-Reply-To: <3c2b63c00612172007l38ed69d9yb1f3af476e6b83a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <6FA6124E9378214883CA93A54AED601D05028ADC@EMAIL.win.int.realestate.com.au> <3c2b63c00612172007l38ed69d9yb1f3af476e6b83a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3c2b63c00701011728t43d8303bw42e71ea67048347b@mail.gmail.com> So what is the consensus about meeting for a beer or eight at this venue or any other? Can I suggest Friday 12/Jan? Or do want something mid week? On 18/12/06, Alec Clews wrote: > On 18/12/06, Kirrily Robert wrote: > > > > Does the Goat have food as well? Is there anything to drink other than > beer? Nothing on their website seems to indicate it. > http://www.goatbeer.com.au/ > They got back to me really quick. > > "Red and white wine, champers, good quality vodka, > gin and single malt whisky. Re food yes we have excellent pizzas- 4 > types but can do one off customs too." > > > > -- > Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. > Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C > blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ -- Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ From krobert at realestate.com.au Mon Jan 1 17:30:54 2007 From: krobert at realestate.com.au (Kirrily Robert) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:30:54 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? In-Reply-To: <3c2b63c00701011728t43d8303bw42e71ea67048347b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6FA6124E9378214883CA93A54AED601D051C8BFB@EMAIL.win.int.realestate.com.au> Alec wrote: > So what is the consensus about meeting for a beer or eight at this > venue or any other? > > Can I suggest Friday 12/Jan? Or do want something mid week? I gather that Mountain Goat Brewery is only open Friday evenings. I reckon the 12th sounds like a good date. And hey, it's just about two blocks from my work! K. From jarich at perltraining.com.au Mon Jan 1 18:09:44 2007 From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson) Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 13:09:44 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? In-Reply-To: <6FA6124E9378214883CA93A54AED601D051C8BFB@EMAIL.win.int.realestate.com.au> References: <6FA6124E9378214883CA93A54AED601D051C8BFB@EMAIL.win.int.realestate.com.au> Message-ID: <4599BEE8.8090201@perltraining.com.au> Kirrily Robert wrote: > Alec wrote: >> So what is the consensus about meeting for a beer or eight at this >> venue or any other? >> >> Can I suggest Friday 12/Jan? Or do want something mid week? > > I gather that Mountain Goat Brewery is only open Friday evenings. I > reckon the 12th sounds like a good date. And hey, it's just about two > blocks from my work! I wish I could join you, but instead I'll be flying home from Brisbane. See you in Feb! J From simon at unisolve.com.au Mon Jan 1 20:07:24 2007 From: simon at unisolve.com.au (Simon Taylor) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:07:24 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? In-Reply-To: <3c2b63c00701011728t43d8303bw42e71ea67048347b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6FA6124E9378214883CA93A54AED601D05028ADC@EMAIL.win.int.realestate.com.au> <3c2b63c00612172007l38ed69d9yb1f3af476e6b83a5@mail.gmail.com> <3c2b63c00701011728t43d8303bw42e71ea67048347b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200701021507.25099.simon@unisolve.com.au> On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:28 pm, Alec Clews wrote: > So what is the consensus about meeting for a beer or eight at this > venue or any other? > > Can I suggest Friday 12/Jan? Or do want something mid week? Friday the 12th works for me. - Simon -- Unisolve Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia +61 3 9568 2005 From alecclews at gmail.com Mon Jan 1 21:16:02 2007 From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:16:02 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? In-Reply-To: <200701021507.25099.simon@unisolve.com.au> References: <6FA6124E9378214883CA93A54AED601D05028ADC@EMAIL.win.int.realestate.com.au> <3c2b63c00612172007l38ed69d9yb1f3af476e6b83a5@mail.gmail.com> <3c2b63c00701011728t43d8303bw42e71ea67048347b@mail.gmail.com> <200701021507.25099.simon@unisolve.com.au> Message-ID: <3c2b63c00701012116t16932941ta1415dea911b71ff@mail.gmail.com> Directions to the Goat Brewery The Brewery is located on North St directly opposite Clark St, Richmond. Melway 44-J8 Trams: Service 24 or 109 down Victoria Street Alight outside Centro Victoria Gardens shopping centre and walk down the side of the shopping centre past Fitness First and continue to David St, Appleton St and then Clark St. or Service 48 or 75 down Bridge Road Alight just before Richmond Bridge, walk back and turn right at the hotel into River St and then North St. Pub is open from 17:00-23:00 on Friday's On 02/01/07, Simon Taylor wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:28 pm, Alec Clews wrote: > > So what is the consensus about meeting for a beer or eight at this > > venue or any other? > > > > Can I suggest Friday 12/Jan? Or do want something mid week? > > Friday the 12th works for me. > > - Simon > -- > Unisolve Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia > +61 3 9568 2005 > > _______________________________________________ > Melbourne-pm mailing list > Melbourne-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm > -- Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ From scottp at dd.com.au Thu Jan 4 02:31:39 2007 From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 21:31:39 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Looking for perl contractors References: <459C7EB4.2080904@everyonecounts.com> Message-ID: Forwarded on behalf of Craig Burton Scott Begin forwarded message: > From: Craig Burton > Date: 4 January 2007 3:12:36 PM > To: osv-list at lists.osv.org.au > Subject: [osv-list][JOB] Looking for perl contractors > Reply-To: osv-list at lists.osv.org.au > > Hi, We are close to negotiating a job which will require Perl > people for 12 weeks to work with us from late Jan. We need people > who are comfortable with XML web services in Perl. We need to > have new web services developed and glued to our existing, large > code base as part of UK gov't interoperability for what we do. > > You need to be physically in or near Melbourne and able to come to > Carlton at least some days as you will need to meet with us a fair > bit in this project. We need you full time if not more. You would > need to be available from the last week of Jan or very soon after. > > Some of the work would be mounting Schematron and SAX services for > existing schemas but most of the work will be working to > understanding what the current system does and bridge the small and > large gaps. It's a hack, I know, and maybe you can help us see a > bit of direction, but for now, we have to get up to speed. > > Your ability to see and solve problems, understand the 80/20 rule > and make prudent use of Perl and CPAN under what may be fairly > pressing timelines would be greatly appreciated. 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From alecclews at gmail.com Sun Jan 7 20:41:54 2007 From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 15:41:54 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? In-Reply-To: <3c2b63c00701012116t16932941ta1415dea911b71ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <6FA6124E9378214883CA93A54AED601D05028ADC@EMAIL.win.int.realestate.com.au> <3c2b63c00612172007l38ed69d9yb1f3af476e6b83a5@mail.gmail.com> <3c2b63c00701011728t43d8303bw42e71ea67048347b@mail.gmail.com> <200701021507.25099.simon@unisolve.com.au> <3c2b63c00701012116t16932941ta1415dea911b71ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3c2b63c00701072041w3f0badeel16421c6fcd53ecbc@mail.gmail.com> So far we have three people indicating they want go to the pub on Friday. Do we have any more interested? On 02/01/07, Alec Clews wrote: > Directions to the Goat Brewery > > The Brewery is located on North St directly opposite Clark St, > Richmond. Melway 44-J8 > > Trams: > > Service 24 or 109 down Victoria Street > Alight outside Centro Victoria Gardens shopping centre and walk down > the side of the shopping centre past Fitness First and continue to > David St, Appleton St and then Clark St. > > or > > Service 48 or 75 down Bridge Road > Alight just before Richmond Bridge, walk back and turn right at the > hotel into River St and then North St. > > Pub is open from 17:00-23:00 on Friday's -- Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ From leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au Sun Jan 7 20:46:02 2007 From: leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au (leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 15:46:02 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? Message-ID: <6462CBB658614845A7702E37988076980175A89E@exhnat2.nsw.hpa> I think I sent my reply direct to skud by mistake - me too!!! Leif -----Original Message----- From: alecclews at gmail.com [mailto:alecclews at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 8 January 2007 3:42 PM To: melbourne-pm at pm.org Subject: Re: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? So far we have three people indicating they want go to the pub on Friday. Do we have any more interested? On 02/01/07, Alec Clews wrote: > Directions to the Goat Brewery > > The Brewery is located on North St directly opposite Clark St, > Richmond. Melway 44-J8 > > Trams: > > Service 24 or 109 down Victoria Street Alight outside Centro Victoria > Gardens shopping centre and walk down the side of the shopping centre > past Fitness First and continue to David St, Appleton St and then > Clark St. > > or > > Service 48 or 75 down Bridge Road > Alight just before Richmond Bridge, walk back and turn right at the > hotel into River St and then North St. > > Pub is open from 17:00-23:00 on Friday's -- Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ _______________________________________________ Melbourne-pm mailing list Melbourne-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 7/01/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 7/01/2007 ********************************************************************** IMPORTANT The contents of this e-mail and its attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the HPA Postmaster, postmaster at hpa.com.au, then delete the e-mail. 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Regards, Leigh Leigh Sharpe Network Systems Engineer Pacific Wireless Ph +61 3 9584 8966 Mob 0408 009 502 email lsharpe at pacificwireless.com.au web www.pacificwireless.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Alec Clews [mailto:alecclews at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:42 PM To: Melbourne Perlmongers Subject: Re: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? So far we have three people indicating they want go to the pub on Friday. Do we have any more interested? On 02/01/07, Alec Clews wrote: > Directions to the Goat Brewery > > The Brewery is located on North St directly opposite Clark St, > Richmond. Melway 44-J8 > > Trams: > > Service 24 or 109 down Victoria Street > Alight outside Centro Victoria Gardens shopping centre and walk down > the side of the shopping centre past Fitness First and continue to > David St, Appleton St and then Clark St. > > or > > Service 48 or 75 down Bridge Road > Alight just before Richmond Bridge, walk back and turn right at the > hotel into River St and then North St. > > Pub is open from 17:00-23:00 on Friday's -- Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ _______________________________________________ Melbourne-pm mailing list Melbourne-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm From scottp at dd.com.au Sun Jan 7 21:03:24 2007 From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:03:24 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? In-Reply-To: <6462CBB658614845A7702E37988076980175A89E@exhnat2.nsw.hpa> References: <6462CBB658614845A7702E37988076980175A89E@exhnat2.nsw.hpa> Message-ID: <8DD749C4-6060-4026-B745-EC9F388AD045@dd.com.au> 2007 brain not in gear yet - it is this Friday right ? I will be there. Scooter On 08/01/2007, at 3:46 PM, leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au wrote: > I think I sent my reply direct to skud by mistake - me too!!! > > Leif > > -----Original Message----- > From: alecclews at gmail.com [mailto:alecclews at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, 8 January 2007 3:42 PM > To: melbourne-pm at pm.org > Subject: Re: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? > > So far we have three people indicating they want go to the pub on > Friday. Do we have any more interested? > > On 02/01/07, Alec Clews wrote: >> Directions to the Goat Brewery >> >> The Brewery is located on North St directly opposite Clark St, >> Richmond. Melway 44-J8 >> >> Trams: >> >> Service 24 or 109 down Victoria Street Alight outside Centro Victoria >> Gardens shopping centre and walk down the side of the shopping centre >> past Fitness First and continue to David St, Appleton St and then >> Clark St. >> >> or >> >> Service 48 or 75 down Bridge Road >> Alight just before Richmond Bridge, walk back and turn right at the >> hotel into River St and then North St. >> >> Pub is open from 17:00-23:00 on Friday's > -- > Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. > Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C > blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Melbourne-pm mailing list > Melbourne-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: > 7/01/2007 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: > 7/01/2007 > > ********************************************************************** > IMPORTANT > The contents of this e-mail and its attachments are confidential > and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. 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From krobert at realestate.com.au Sun Jan 7 21:11:05 2007 From: krobert at realestate.com.au (Kirrily Robert) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:11:05 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? In-Reply-To: <3c2b63c00701072041w3f0badeel16421c6fcd53ecbc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6FA6124E9378214883CA93A54AED601D0525D36F@EMAIL.win.int.realestate.com.au> Alec wrote: > So far we have three people indicating they want go to the pub on > Friday. Do we have any more interested? At what hour are we planning to meet? K. From Kathryn.M.Grant at nab.com.au Sun Jan 7 21:12:38 2007 From: Kathryn.M.Grant at nab.com.au (Kathryn.M.Grant at nab.com.au) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:12:38 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: me too :) "Leigh Sharpe" To Sent by: alecclews , melbourne-pm-boun melbourne-pm ces+kathryn_m_gra cc nt=national.com.a u at pm.org Subject Re: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? 08/01/2007 04:03 PM I'm in. Regards, Leigh Leigh Sharpe Network Systems Engineer Pacific Wireless Ph +61 3 9584 8966 Mob 0408 009 502 email lsharpe at pacificwireless.com.au web www.pacificwireless.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Alec Clews [mailto:alecclews at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:42 PM To: Melbourne Perlmongers Subject: Re: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? So far we have three people indicating they want go to the pub on Friday. Do we have any more interested? On 02/01/07, Alec Clews wrote: > Directions to the Goat Brewery > > The Brewery is located on North St directly opposite Clark St, > Richmond. Melway 44-J8 > > Trams: > > Service 24 or 109 down Victoria Street > Alight outside Centro Victoria Gardens shopping centre and walk down > the side of the shopping centre past Fitness First and continue to > David St, Appleton St and then Clark St. > > or > > Service 48 or 75 down Bridge Road > Alight just before Richmond Bridge, walk back and turn right at the > hotel into River St and then North St. > > Pub is open from 17:00-23:00 on Friday's -- Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ _______________________________________________ Melbourne-pm mailing list Melbourne-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm _______________________________________________ Melbourne-pm mailing list Melbourne-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm National Australia Bank Ltd - ABN 12 004 044 937 This email may contain confidential information. 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From alecclews at gmail.com Sun Jan 7 21:57:38 2007 From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:57:38 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3c2b63c00701072157n67e7d68ar9aae3b7eda9bd0ab@mail.gmail.com> In answer to the various questions 1) Yes it's this Friday 2) The pub opens at 5 and I hope to be there before 6. I'm a thirsty bunny so I'm not usually late to the pub :-). I'll ask for a table for 7-10 people -- not sure if they book tables but I'll try under the name of Melbourne Perl Mongers. On 08/01/07, Kathryn.M.Grant at nab.com.au wrote: > > me too :) > > > > > "Leigh Sharpe" > ireless.com.au> To > Sent by: alecclews , > melbourne-pm-boun melbourne-pm > ces+kathryn_m_gra cc > nt=national.com.a > u at pm.org Subject > Re: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? > > 08/01/2007 04:03 > PM > > > > > > > > I'm in. > > > Regards, > Leigh > > Leigh Sharpe > Network Systems Engineer > Pacific Wireless > Ph +61 3 9584 8966 > Mob 0408 009 502 > email lsharpe at pacificwireless.com.au > web www.pacificwireless.com.au > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alec Clews [mailto:alecclews at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:42 PM > To: Melbourne Perlmongers > Subject: Re: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? > > So far we have three people indicating they want go to the pub on > Friday. Do we have any more interested? > > On 02/01/07, Alec Clews wrote: > > Directions to the Goat Brewery > > > > The Brewery is located on North St directly opposite Clark St, > > Richmond. 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National Australia Bank Ltd does not represent that this email is free of errors, viruses or interference. > _______________________________________________ > Melbourne-pm mailing list > Melbourne-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm > -- Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ From alfie at hackfu.org Mon Jan 8 02:27:28 2007 From: alfie at hackfu.org (Alfie John) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:27:28 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? In-Reply-To: <3c2b63c00701072157n67e7d68ar9aae3b7eda9bd0ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c2b63c00701072157n67e7d68ar9aae3b7eda9bd0ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3C6F1A49-DDF9-4818-A91E-A9DEC8263B29@hackfu.org> Count 3, possibly 4 from the Monash crew :) Alfie On 08/01/2007, at 4:57 PM, Alec Clews wrote: > In answer to the various questions > > 1) Yes it's this Friday > 2) The pub opens at 5 and I hope to be there before 6. I'm a thirsty > bunny so I'm not usually late to the pub :-). > > I'll ask for a table for 7-10 people -- not sure if they book tables > but I'll try under the name of Melbourne Perl Mongers. > > > > On 08/01/07, Kathryn.M.Grant at nab.com.au > wrote: >> >> me too :) >> >> >> >> >> "Leigh Sharpe" >> > >> ireless.com.au> To >> Sent by: alecclews >> , >> melbourne-pm-boun melbourne-pm > pm at pm.org> >> ces >> +kathryn_m_gra cc >> nt=national.com.a >> u at pm.org >> Subject >> Re: [Melbourne-pm] Next >> meeting? >> >> 08/01/2007 04:03 >> PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm in. >> >> >> Regards, >> Leigh >> >> Leigh Sharpe >> Network Systems Engineer >> Pacific Wireless >> Ph +61 3 9584 8966 >> Mob 0408 009 502 >> email lsharpe at pacificwireless.com.au >> web www.pacificwireless.com.au >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alec Clews [mailto:alecclews at gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:42 PM >> To: Melbourne Perlmongers >> Subject: Re: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? >> >> So far we have three people indicating they want go to the pub on >> Friday. Do we have any more interested? >> >> On 02/01/07, Alec Clews wrote: >>> Directions to the Goat Brewery >>> >>> The Brewery is located on North St directly opposite Clark St, >>> Richmond. Melway 44-J8 >>> >>> Trams: >>> >>> Service 24 or 109 down Victoria Street >>> Alight outside Centro Victoria Gardens shopping centre and walk down >>> the side of the shopping centre past Fitness First and continue to >>> David St, Appleton St and then Clark St. >>> >>> or >>> >>> Service 48 or 75 down Bridge Road >>> Alight just before Richmond Bridge, walk back and turn right at the >>> hotel into River St and then North St. >>> >>> Pub is open from 17:00-23:00 on Friday's >> -- >> Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. >> Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C >> blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Melbourne-pm mailing list >> Melbourne-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Melbourne-pm mailing list >> Melbourne-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm >> >> >> >> National Australia Bank Ltd - ABN 12 004 044 937 >> This email may contain confidential information. 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National Australia Bank Ltd >> does not represent that this email is free of errors, viruses or >> interference. >> _______________________________________________ >> Melbourne-pm mailing list >> Melbourne-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm >> > > > -- > Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. > Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C > blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Melbourne-pm mailing list > Melbourne-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm From alecclews at gmail.com Mon Jan 8 14:49:00 2007 From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:49:00 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? In-Reply-To: <3c2b63c00701072157n67e7d68ar9aae3b7eda9bd0ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c2b63c00701072157n67e7d68ar9aae3b7eda9bd0ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3c2b63c00701081449w613398cfm17b80f0ecba0e36b@mail.gmail.com> It seems that they do not reserve tables. So whoever gets there first needs to try and grab a big table (I think we are currently standing at 12) On 08/01/07, Alec Clews wrote: > In answer to the various questions > > 1) Yes it's this Friday > 2) The pub opens at 5 and I hope to be there before 6. I'm a thirsty > bunny so I'm not usually late to the pub :-). > > I'll ask for a table for 7-10 people -- not sure if they book tables > but I'll try under the name of Melbourne Perl Mongers. > > > > On 08/01/07, Kathryn.M.Grant at nab.com.au wrote: > > > > me too :) > > > > > > > > > > "Leigh Sharpe" > > > ireless.com.au> To > > Sent by: alecclews , > > melbourne-pm-boun melbourne-pm > > ces+kathryn_m_gra cc > > nt=national.com.a > > u at pm.org Subject > > Re: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? > > > > 08/01/2007 04:03 > > PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm in. > > > > > > Regards, > > Leigh > > > > Leigh Sharpe > > Network Systems Engineer > > Pacific Wireless > > Ph +61 3 9584 8966 > > Mob 0408 009 502 > > email lsharpe at pacificwireless.com.au > > web www.pacificwireless.com.au > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alec Clews [mailto:alecclews at gmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:42 PM > > To: Melbourne Perlmongers > > Subject: Re: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting? > > > > So far we have three people indicating they want go to the pub on > > Friday. Do we have any more interested? > > > > On 02/01/07, Alec Clews wrote: > > > Directions to the Goat Brewery > > > > > > The Brewery is located on North St directly opposite Clark St, > > > Richmond. Melway 44-J8 > > > > > > Trams: > > > > > > Service 24 or 109 down Victoria Street > > > Alight outside Centro Victoria Gardens shopping centre and walk down > > > the side of the shopping centre past Fitness First and continue to > > > David St, Appleton St and then Clark St. > > > > > > or > > > > > > Service 48 or 75 down Bridge Road > > > Alight just before Richmond Bridge, walk back and turn right at the > > > hotel into River St and then North St. > > > > > > Pub is open from 17:00-23:00 on Friday's > > -- > > Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. > > Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C > > blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Melbourne-pm mailing list > > Melbourne-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Melbourne-pm mailing list > > Melbourne-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm > > > > > > > > National Australia Bank Ltd - ABN 12 004 044 937 > > This email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify us at postmaster at nab.com.au or by replying to the sender, and then destroy all copies of this email. Except where this email indicates otherwise, views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not of National Australia Bank Ltd. Advice in this email does not take account of your objectives, financial situation, or needs. It is important for you to consider these matters and, if the e-mail refers to a product(s), you should read the relevant Product Disclosure Statement(s)/other disclosure document(s) before making any decisions. If you do not want email marketing from us in future, forward this email with "unsubscribe" in the subject line to Unsubscriptions at nab.com.au in order to stop marketing emails from this sender. National Australia Bank Ltd does not represent that this email is free of errors, viruses or interference. > > _______________________________________________ > > Melbourne-pm mailing list > > Melbourne-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm > > > > > -- > Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. > Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C > blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ > -- Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ From tconnors+pmmelb at astro.swin.edu.au Mon Jan 8 17:24:39 2007 From: tconnors+pmmelb at astro.swin.edu.au (Tim Connors) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:24:39 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Melbourne-pm] scope and gotos Message-ID: I know gotos are bad, mmmkay (actual, Djikstra was going on about unconditional gotos, not error handling gotos), but is this the desired behaviour of goto jumping out of the scope of something that has been declared, falling back into it, and the old value remaining? ### #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; print "init\n"; init: my @test; push @test, int(@test); print "test=@test\n"; goto init; ### init test=0 test=0 1 test=0 1 2 ... Sure, I *can* go and reinitialise all these arrays, but I thought a declaration ought to be good enough. -- Tim Connors http://site.aao.gov.au/twc From simon at unisolve.com.au Mon Jan 8 17:51:45 2007 From: simon at unisolve.com.au (Simon Taylor) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:51:45 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] scope and gotos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200701091251.45539.simon@unisolve.com.au> G'day Tim, > I know gotos are bad, mmmkay (actual, Djikstra was going on about > unconditional gotos, not error handling gotos), but is this the desired > behaviour of goto jumping out of the scope of something that has been > declared, falling back into it, and the old value remaining? As far as I can see, there is only "file scope" in your example. In other words the @test array has the scope of the whole file. The goto statement and the init: label it is branching to are all within the same scope. Of course, you could *create* a brace-enclosed scope like this to achieve the effect you want: ------------- #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; print "init\n"; { init: my @test; push @test, int(@test); print "test=@test\n"; ; } goto init; ------------- But no one will talk to you at parties if you do that! ;-) Regards, Simon > > ### > #!/usr/bin/perl > > use strict; > use warnings; > > print "init\n"; > > init: > > my @test; > > push @test, int(@test); > > print "test=@test\n"; > goto init; > > ### > > init > test=0 > test=0 1 > test=0 1 2 > ... > > Sure, I *can* go and reinitialise all these arrays, but I thought a > declaration ought to be good enough. -- Unisolve Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia +61 3 9568 2005 From alecclews at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 16:59:05 2007 From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:59:05 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Melbourne Perl Mongers Meeting 12/Jan Message-ID: <3c2b63c00701111659v5d01331dicdbb96e53154b2fd@mail.gmail.com> Just a reminder about tonight's Perl Mongers meeting: It's from 6'ish until we move on for food (or stay and have pizzas) at the Goat Brewery. Could whoever arrives first please cast about for a large table. We have at least ten people so far who have indicated they are coming, so the good news is that you will not be forced to listen to me all night waxing lyrical about the wonderful ale. As well as the excellent cask conditioned beer they describe their offerings as follows: "Red and white wine, champers, good quality vodka, gin and single malt whisky. Re food we have excellent pizzas- 4 types but can do one off customs too." Directions: The Brewery is located on North St directly opposite Clark St, Richmond. Melway 44-J8 Trams: Service 24 or 109 down Victoria Street Alight outside Centro Victoria Gardens shopping centre and walk down the side of the shopping centre past Fitness First and continue to David St, Appleton St and then Clark St. or Service 48 or 75 down Bridge Road Alight just before Richmond Bridge, walk back and turn right at the hotel into River St and then North St. If you get lost my mobile number is 0425-770-886. -- Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ From alfiejohn at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 20:16:14 2007 From: alfiejohn at gmail.com (Alfie John) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:16:14 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Melbourne Perl Mongers Meeting 12/Jan In-Reply-To: <3c2b63c00701111659v5d01331dicdbb96e53154b2fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c2b63c00701111659v5d01331dicdbb96e53154b2fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi again, Sorry, I've had to pull out tonight. And since I am the Monash taxi and due to other issues so to have the other Monash people :( See you all next month! Alfie On 1/12/07, Alec Clews wrote: > Just a reminder about tonight's Perl Mongers meeting: > > It's from 6'ish until we move on for food (or stay and have pizzas) at > the Goat Brewery. Could whoever arrives first please cast about for a > large table. > > We have at least ten people so far who have indicated they are coming, > so the good news is that you will not be forced to listen to me all > night waxing lyrical about the wonderful ale. > > As well as the excellent cask conditioned beer they describe their > offerings as follows: > > "Red and white wine, champers, good quality vodka, gin and single > malt whisky. Re food we have excellent pizzas- 4 types but can do > one off customs too." > > Directions: > > The Brewery is located on North St directly opposite Clark St, > Richmond. Melway 44-J8 > > Trams: > > Service 24 or 109 down Victoria Street Alight outside Centro Victoria > Gardens shopping centre and walk down the side of the shopping centre > past Fitness First and continue to David St, Appleton St and then > Clark St. > > or > > Service 48 or 75 down Bridge Road > Alight just before Richmond Bridge, walk back and turn right at the > hotel into River St and then North St. > > > If you get lost my mobile number is 0425-770-886. > > -- > Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. > Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C > blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Melbourne-pm mailing list > Melbourne-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm > From ts at meme.com.au Thu Jan 11 21:12:40 2007 From: ts at meme.com.au (Tony Smith) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:12:40 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Melbourne Perl Mongers Meeting 12/Jan In-Reply-To: References: <3c2b63c00701111659v5d01331dicdbb96e53154b2fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <91B344F7-A838-4E58-99B7-39247349840B@meme.com.au> Having finally decided to turn up instead of going back to the beach, I hope gaining one from Melbourne will compensate for losing all from Monash. On 12/01/2007, at 3:16 PM, Alfie John wrote: > Sorry, I've had to pull out tonight. And since I am the Monash taxi > and due to other issues so to have the other Monash people :( Tony Smith 0405 499 718 TransForum Developer http://www.transforum.net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/melbourne-pm/attachments/20070112/1371fa35/attachment.html From tconnors+pmmelb at astro.swin.edu.au Sun Jan 14 08:29:46 2007 From: tconnors+pmmelb at astro.swin.edu.au (Tim Connors) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 03:29:46 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Term::ReadLine && ctrl-C Message-ID: This post partly for the sake of goggles, since many searches along the lines of '"ctrl c" "term readline"', 'deferred signals gnu term readline' etc return a whole bunch of people over time that have asked similar questions to me, and never obtained an answer. Nevertheless, comments? Anyone done this an easier, more correct, way? man perlipc tells me that since Perl 5.7.3, signals in perl use a deferred signal scheme, whereby perl will set a flag telling itself that a signal has occurred, and if raise the real handler as soon as it is safe to do so. In the case of IO, the system call is not returned to, but other system calls are restarted. However, Term::ReadLine(::Gnu) is restarting whatever system calls it is using. If I press Ctrl C, or send a SIGINT etc, then my handler doesn't get called until I press enter at the readline prompt. This sucks. Here's my solution (might not compile, because I've removed a bit of irrelevant crap, but should be easy enough to fix). #these are the handlers for our signals when readline not being called foreach my $signal (qw (INT TERM HUP)) { $SIG{$signal} = \&graceful_exit; } #read_line sets it's own special handlers, because it is "special". sub read_line { my $default=$_[0]; sub unsafe_signals { my $signal=$_[0]; debug "signal called at unsafe time\n"; debug "signal=$signal\n"; $term->free_line_state; #just give readline a chance to cleanup #after itself $term->cleanup_after_signal; graceful_exit($signal); } # See # http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.8.4/pod/perlipc.html#Deferred-Signals-(Safe-Signals) # Term::ReadLine::Gnu restarts whatever system call it is using, # such that once we ctrl C, we don't get back to Perl until the user # presses enter, finally whereupon we get our signal handler called. # We use sigaction instead to use the old perl unsafe signal # handling, but only in this read routine. Sure, sigaction poses # race conditions, but you'd typically expect ctrl-C when at a # prompt when it is quiescent; ie printf and malloc etc aren't # currently being called my $sigset = POSIX::SigSet->new(); my $sigaction = POSIX::SigAction->new( \&unsafe_signals, $sigset, 0); my $old_int_action=POSIX::SigAction->new; #set up our unsafe signal handler POSIX::sigaction(&POSIX::SIGINT, $sigaction, $old_action); #save the default one POSIX::sigaction(&POSIX::SIGHUP, $sigaction); POSIX::sigaction(&POSIX::SIGTERM, $sigaction); my $res = $term->readline("iter2> ", ''); #restore the real signal handler POSIX::sigaction(&POSIX::SIGINT, $old_action); POSIX::sigaction(&POSIX::SIGHUP, $old_action); POSIX::sigaction(&POSIX::SIGTERM, $old_action); if (defined $res) { $res =~ s/^\s+|\s+$//g; # lop off whitespace $term->AddHistory($res); } return $res; } -- Tim Connors http://site.aao.gov.au/twc From andrew.stuart at flatraterecruitment.com.au Sun Jan 21 21:54:17 2007 From: andrew.stuart at flatraterecruitment.com.au (Andrew Stuart) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:54:17 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Melbourne job - Perl developer - replicated MySQL advantageous Message-ID: <05ae01c73de9$c12a07e0$6c00000a@dudemacbookpro> Perl developer with strong MySQL for replication * ADSL 2+ home broadband included (assuming it is available in your area) * Perl, MySQL, Linux * Small, highly successful company This is a great job working in a small and highly successful company where there is a passion for open source technologies. This company has developed a mission critical online service and is being used by an ever growing client base. The core product runs on a global network of Linux servers handling RFC822 message processing. It's a great company to work at if you like being on a successful team of smart people in a fun environment. The key requirements for this role is outstanding Perl coding skills and excellent knowledge of SQL. MySQL is in use here although experience with any of the major database servers is valued (Oracle, DB2, Postgres, MS-SQL). Strong MySQL will be viewed favorably for this role as the project will involve design and implementation of a service based around a set of replicated MySQL servers. We're looking for people with a passion for technology - perhaps someone from the Linux hacker culture (hacker as in 'serious coder', not 'cracker'). You'll need to be very comfortable working in a Linux environment. 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Anyone with a flickr account can also add tags, comments, and make other edits. Any photo with a title of "???" or a tag of "unknown" means I've been unable to put a face. If you do recognise anyone, please add a comment to the photo to let me know. Cheerio, Paul -- Paul Fenwick | http://perltraining.com.au/ Director of Training | Ph: +61 3 9354 6001 Perl Training Australia | Fax: +61 3 9354 2681 From jarich at perltraining.com.au Tue Jan 23 20:50:06 2007 From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:50:06 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Programming Perl course in Melbourne: 13th - 16th February Message-ID: <45B6E57E.8060902@perltraining.com.au> Perl Training Australia will be running its very popular introductory course, Programming Perl, in Melbourne on the 13th - 16th February 2007 You can book places on this course at: http://perltraining.com.au/bookings/Melbourne.html Mention Melbourne Perl Mongers when making your booking to get a 5% discount. Book 3 or more places for an additional 5% discount giving a total of 10% off. Looking forward to seeing you all on the 14th Feb. J From rick at measham.id.au Sun Jan 28 20:35:24 2007 From: rick at measham.id.au (Rick Measham) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:35:24 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Best (online) source of O'Reilly books in .AU? Message-ID: <45BD798C.1070501@measham.id.au> What's the best place (online preferabbly, otherwise Brisbane!) to buy O'Reilly books in Australia? Cheers! Rick Measham From ddick at aapt.net.au Mon Jan 29 02:50:42 2007 From: ddick at aapt.net.au (David Dick) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:50:42 +1100 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] a fix for the back-button causes re-submit problem Message-ID: <45BDD182.7030408@aapt.net.au> quick note. have been having issues for a while with how best to solve the issue of the users adding a new object to the database via a web front end and then for some reason, deciding to hit the back button and accidentally add the object a second time. i've recently read about using a 303 to redirect from the POST add url to a GET /object?id=newid type url. So the request/response cycle goes like; client clicks the 'save new object button and sends a POST /script/name HTTP/1.1 after validation, new_id gets created on the server, so the server redirects the user to access the newly created object via a GET Status: 303 See Other Location: /script/name?Id=newid the client "forgets" about the POST step, replaces it in the history list with the redirect and issues GET /script/name?Id=newid which if the user clicks the backbutton from where-ever to where-ever it should have no effect, unless the user deliberately clicks the save button again. i seem to be having a lot of success with this "trick" with a test application, but was wondering if anyone else is doing this and if there is anything that could cause dramas, such as MSIE version X that refuses to co-operate, etc. Uru -Dave