From leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au Wed Aug 2 16:05:52 2006 From: leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au (leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:05:52 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Ever used study() ? And did it help ? Message-ID: Just asking out of curiosity - this function seems to have rolled under the stove - no one remembers where it went, and now its covered in fluff and grease.... Leif Eriksen Research and Development Engineer HPA Direct: +61 3 9217 5545 www.hpa.com.au -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/406 - Release Date: 2/08/2006 ********************************************************************** IMPORTANT The contents of this e-mail and its attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the HPA Postmaster, postmaster at hpa.com.au, then delete the e-mail. 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Yes and not really (at least not to any extent that impacted upon application performance for what I was working at the time, a selective web proxy and cache engine). Regards, Rob Rob Casey Swish Interactive a division of The Swish Group Limited 170 Dorcas Street South Melbourne, Victoria 3205 Australia [P] +61 3 9686 6640 [F] +61 3 9686 6680 [M] +61 401 460 490 [E] rob.casey at swishgroup.com.au ________________________________ From: melbourne-pm-bounces+rob.casey=swishgroup.com.au at pm.org [mailto:melbourne-pm-bounces+rob.casey=swishgroup.com.au at pm.org] On Behalf Of leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au Sent: Thursday, 3 August 2006 9:06 AM To: melbourne-pm at pm.org Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Ever used study() ? And did it help ? Just asking out of curiosity - this function seems to have rolled under the stove - no one remembers where it went, and now its covered in fluff and grease.... 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We will put in an order for and invoice anyone who fills in the form referenced below and responds to our confirmation email. The final price is not yet known but it will be in the $20 - $25 range. When the T's arrive we'll re-bundle them into Perl Monger batches and re-ship them to the appropriate contact person. Anyone who has not paid their invoice by shipment time (whenever that ends up being) can pay a bit extra to have it shipped direct to them from us. You can place an order here ... http://tinyurl.com/gz829 ... feel free to organise joint orders amongst yourselves as long as their is someone who is happy to get an invoice for the whole order. Otherwise have people put in an order individually. Please pass this on to your network. The deadline for orders is the 4th of August, 2006. Cheers -- Adam Clarke www.strategicdata.com.au From scottp at dd.com.au Thu Aug 3 21:03:32 2006 From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:03:32 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] 5 Weeks Contracting at Editure.com Message-ID: <72C36D01-93F2-4741-9A4B-63C55FF45AD7@dd.com.au> Hello Melbourne Perl Mongers. Editure, formerly myinternet, are looking for a perl and/or PHP Developer for a 5 week contract starting as soon as possible. The work will mostly be around modification of some existing code, creation of some perl modules and mod_perl modules for Apache (Authentication and Handlers). If you are interested and have good skills in Perl and reasonable skills in mod_perl please contact Scott Penrose Thanks Scott -- * - * http://www.osdc.com.au - Open Source Developers Conference * - * Scott Penrose VP in charge of Pancakes http://linux.dd.com.au/ scottp at dd.com.au Dismaimer: If you receive this email in error - please eat it immediately to prevent it from falling into the wrong hands. Please do not send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Microsoft is not the answer. It's the question. And the answer is no. From leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au Fri Aug 4 02:27:37 2006 From: leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au (leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:27:37 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] RFC - tidyview-1.01 posted to sourceforge. Message-ID: Having trouble configuring your perltidy options ? Not sure of the effects of one option over another ? Well after much work I am pleased to announce that Tidyview-1.01 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=168694 is available for testing and comment. Tidyview is a graphical previewer, for evaluating the effect of perltidy options on your code. Select the options you think you'd like, press the "Run with these options" button, and see the effect on your code right in front of you. Perltidy is a pretty-printer for perl, and has been around since 2001. Tidyview was first born out of a conversation after OSDC 2005, when Perl Best Practices was being discussed, but I started playing with the concept over 5 years ago. I just figured someone had already done it. Tidyview initially displays your code (or itself, if you dont provide a filename argument) tidy'ed with perltidy's defaults. It can read any perltidy config file you'd like to use, and you can save the perltidy config that results from your option choices when your happy. Note that this is a Perl-based application ( and Perl/Tk at that), so if you'd like to play with it before installing, just cd to the 'bin' directory and run the perlenv.bash helper script (assuming your using a platform that bash makes sense on) to manipulate your PERL5LIB path - I dislike "use lib ()" fiddles. Then run tidyview itself. tidyview has dependencies on Log::Log4perl - I'm planning to remove this dependency once the app has some maturity. Tk perltidy - and a recent one at that. After a 3 year hiatus, two new releases have recently appeared. tidyview relies on the new Perl::Tidy API. Note that it should work with most versions of Tk. Really ancient ones may be a problem. I've tried to use only core Tk widgets, but if you want a specialised one, I'm open to suggestions. Please send me any feedback, bugs, comments, suggestions, annoyances. I plan to post the app to CPAN once initial early release problems are addressed. Tidyview follows the typical perl app/module style, so the recipe to start playing is :- tar zxvf tidyview-1.01.tar.gz cd tidyview-1.01 perl Makefile && make test cd bin source perlenv.bash perl tidyview.pl POD is available via "perldoc tidyview.pl" Basic options are --log - really only for debugging --help --man --version Note that there is currently an error in the processing of perltidy config file recommended in Perl Best Practices, and tidyview will complain - or rather, it passes on perltidy's complaint. Delete the -se and -st options from Damian's sample, and all will be well. -st says echo to STDOUT, -se says echo to STDERR, and perltidy complains it cant do both. I make no judgements as to the correctness of the complaint, I'm just telling you what it does. Interestingly the developer of perltidy has been using tidyview's early-alpha releases to debug perltidy itself, and he openned up perltidy's internals with an API, meaning most of tidyview is not hardcoded to emulate perltidy, but asks questions of, and receives answers from perltidy itself. Some people have told me that they suspect that perltidy may change the semantics of the perl code it tidies, but the developer of perltidy assures me this is highly unlikely, and no one has ever complained of tidy'd code being broken in the process of tidying in the 6 years he's been supporting it. However, if there's enough demand, I can introduce support for Perl::Signature, but at this stage I dont see the need. Prove me wrong ! So good luck and good tidy'ing !!! Leif Eriksen Research and Development Engineer HPA Direct: +61 3 9217 5545 www.hpa.com.au -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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I'm sure they'll be excellent. :) If you have a talk topic you'd like to give - for this meeting or for one in the future - please send it through to the list. We're always interested in more talks. If you know someone who might be interested in this meeting's talks. In fact, try to bring someone else along anyway, the more the merrier! Your friends, family and work colleagues are all invited! Attendance is free. Next Meeting ============ The next Perl Monger meeting will be on Wednesday, the 13th September. OSDClub ======= OSDClub will next run on the 11th October, instead of Melbourne Perl Monger's Perl meeting. For talk topics and other information please visit: http://www.osdc.com.au/osdclub/index.html -- ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ | Jacinta Richardson | `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) | Perl Training Australia | (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' | +61 3 9354 6001 | _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' | contact at perltraining.com.au | (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' | www.perltraining.com.au | From blm at woodheap.org Mon Aug 7 02:28:05 2006 From: blm at woodheap.org (blm at woodheap.org) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:28:05 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Talks for the meeting this week Message-ID: <20060807092805.GA25129@woodheap.org> You and all of your friends, family and other interested people are invited to our meeting next week. Date: Wednesday 9th August Time: 6:30pm Location: (Usual place) Level 8, 14 Blackwood Street, North Melbourne We have two talks scheduled for this meeting: Tidyview: An Update =================== Speaker: Leif Eriksen Tidyview is a small GUI application, useful for evaluating the combined effect of the plethora of options provided by the perl prettt-printer, perltidy. Tidyview is also an open source project hosted on sourceforge, and will soon to have package released on CPAN, after a brief alpha-cycle. Leif will give us a demo of the current version and share some of his experiences launching it as an open source project Perl for System Administration ============================== Speaker: Paul Fenwick Perl has a long history in system administration, and even the most basic Perl install comes with a powerful and flexible set of useful tools. In this talk Paul will discuss a number of Perl modules which make System Administration much easier! If you have a talk topic you'd like to give - for this meeting or for one in the future - please send it through to the list. We're always interested in more talks. It could be a good opurtunity to practise for the talks you have submitted for the OSDC Conference. If you know someone who might be interested in this meeting's talks, bring them along. In fact, try to bring someone else along anyway, the more the merrier! Your friends, family and work colleagues are all invited! Attendance is free. Next Meeting ============ The next Perl Monger meeting will be on Wednesday, the 13th September. All the best, Ben Marsh Treasurer Melbourne Perl Mongers From debbiep-list-melbpm at futzle.com Wed Aug 9 18:16:09 2006 From: debbiep-list-melbpm at futzle.com (Deborah Pickett) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:16:09 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Seeking PHP-Fusion consultant Message-ID: <2206.192.67.248.92.1155172569.squirrel@www.futzle.com> Hi all, Forgive the heresy in using the P-word on a P-word list, but you might know someone... My comapny has an intranet powered by PHP-Fusion, and our HR person is frustruated with its interface, and/or is having permission problems. As you can see, the problem isn't well specified, but our HR person isn't at all technical, so this is all I know. Is there anyone out there familiar with PHP-Fusion who is happy to travel to Kilsyth to do a half day of paid training? Please reply directly to deborah_pickett at moldflow.com. From geoff.crompton at strategicdata.com.au Wed Aug 9 23:39:24 2006 From: geoff.crompton at strategicdata.com.au (Geoff Crompton) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:39:24 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] problems passing arguments to s{}{} Message-ID: <44DAD49C.5010508@strategicdata.com.au> Hi All, I am having a problem using a parameter to a function as part of a s/// operation. Consider the following code that demonstates the problem I'm having: use strict; use warnings; replace_string('source $HOME/homeconfig/muttrc', q{$HOME}); sub replace_string { my ($sourced_string, $homedir_shortcut ) = @_; $sourced_string =~ s{$homedir_shortcut}{$ENV{HOME}}; print "sourced_string is now $sourced_string\n"; #do some processing $sourced_string =~ s{$ENV{HOME}}{$homedir_shortcut}; print "sourced_string is now $sourced_string\n"; } The output I get is: $ perl perltest sourced_string is now source $HOME/homeconfig/muttrc sourced_string is now source $HOME/homeconfig/muttrc The output I would like is: $ perl perltest sourced_string is now source /home/geoffc/homeconfig/muttrc sourced_string is now source $HOME/homeconfig/muttrc The problem is that passing '$HOME' in to the regular expression means it tries to match something on the end of the incoming string in the first s{}{}, which fails. If I try and pass in '\$HOME' like: replace_string('source $HOME/homeconfig/muttrc', q{\$HOME}); Then I get the output: $ perl perltest sourced_string is now source /home/geoffc/homeconfig/muttrc sourced_string is now source \$HOME/homeconfig/muttrc And I can't just keep a copy of sourced_string to reinstate, because the actual program I'm trying to write uses the two s{}{} operators in different ways, and it's not actually the same sourced_string. Am I going to have to resort to some contortions with index(), substr() and the like? Or should I preprocess $homedir_shortcut in replace_string() to escape any inadvertent regular expression markup (and is their a perlmod to do that)? -- Geoff Crompton Debian System Administrator Strategic Data +61 3 9340 9000 From jarich at perltraining.com.au Thu Aug 10 00:10:35 2006 From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:10:35 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] problems passing arguments to s{}{} In-Reply-To: <44DAD49C.5010508@strategicdata.com.au> References: <44DAD49C.5010508@strategicdata.com.au> Message-ID: <44DADBEB.1000607@perltraining.com.au> Geoff Crompton wrote: > sub replace_string { > my ($sourced_string, $homedir_shortcut ) = @_; > > $sourced_string =~ s{$homedir_shortcut}{$ENV{HOME}}; Should be: s{\Q$homedir_shortcut\E}{$ENV{HOME}}; \Q starts quoting meta characters (such as $ -- end of string) and \E ends quoting. Interpolation happens first, so that it ends up being: s{\Q$HOME\E}{$ENV{HOME}}; and does the right thing. > $sourced_string =~ s{$ENV{HOME}}{$homedir_shortcut}; s{\Q$ENV{HOME}\E}{...}; With thanks to Paul for spotting the bug in my test example which mislead me as well. :) J -- ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ | Jacinta Richardson | `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) | Perl Training Australia | (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' | +61 3 9354 6001 | _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' | contact at perltraining.com.au | (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' | www.perltraining.com.au | From jarich at perltraining.com.au Thu Aug 10 23:22:47 2006 From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:22:47 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] A big thankyou to Ben Marsh Message-ID: <44DC2237.2050708@perltraining.com.au> I just wanted to say a big thankyou to Ben Marsh for doing such a good job of organising the last Melbourne PM meeting. I have been extremely busy as of late and hadn't prepared anything. When I asked on the committee list for someone else to do it, Ben got on it straight away. With thanks to him we had two great talks (thankyou Leif and Paul) and a very successful meeting. Ben, I note that you weren't able to join us on Wednesday, so remind me to buy you a beer next month! J -- ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ | Jacinta Richardson | `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) | Perl Training Australia | (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' | +61 3 9354 6001 | _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' | contact at perltraining.com.au | (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' | www.perltraining.com.au | From scottp at dd.com.au Fri Aug 11 17:42:47 2006 From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 10:42:47 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] A big thankyou to Ben Marsh In-Reply-To: <44DC2237.2050708@perltraining.com.au> References: <44DC2237.2050708@perltraining.com.au> Message-ID: I also want to pass on my thanks. This years committee has been excellent, picking up and sharing work very well. Thanks Scooter On 11/08/2006, at 16:22, Jacinta Richardson wrote: > > I just wanted to say a big thankyou to Ben Marsh for doing such a > good job of > organising the last Melbourne PM meeting. I have been extremely > busy as of late > and hadn't prepared anything. When I asked on the committee list > for someone > else to do it, Ben got on it straight away. With thanks to him we > had two great > talks (thankyou Leif and Paul) and a very successful meeting. > > Ben, I note that you weren't able to join us on Wednesday, so > remind me to buy > you a beer next month! > > J > > -- > ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ | Jacinta Richardson | > `6_ 6 ) `-. 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From david.talamelli at oracle.com Tue Aug 15 18:24:59 2006 From: david.talamelli at oracle.com (David Talamelli) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:24:59 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Positions with Oracle: VIC/NSW Message-ID: <20060816112459933.00000001084@dtalamel-au> Good morning, I am a Senior Recruiter for Oracle Corporation. We are currently recruiting for Java Architects in both of our NSW and VIC offices. The roles are working in our Consulting Services so you will spend a large portion of time on client site involved in various implementations/project work. I have Position Descriptions and more information that I can provide if anyone is interested. Alternatively if you know anyone who might be looking for work please feel free to pass my contact details on or have them contact me. I hope that this information helps but again please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or need to discuss further. Regards; David Talamelli Senior Recruiter Oracle Corporation Australia Pty Limited Level 7, 324 St Kilda Road MELBOURNE VIC 3004 Tel - +61 3 8616 3364 Mob - +61 402 681 632 Web - iRecruitment.oracle.com Oracle Recruiting: "Continuously selected by our clients as the exclusive vendor of pre-eminent talent" The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. No internal Oracle email, except that clearly intended for public distribution (e.g. Oracle Press Releases) should be sent to any party outside of Oracle. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/melbourne-pm/attachments/20060816/7d9fe1cd/attachment.html From goonmail at netspace.net.au Tue Aug 15 18:42:10 2006 From: goonmail at netspace.net.au (goonmail at netspace.net.au) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:42:10 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Positions with Oracle: VIC/NSW Message-ID: <1155692530.44e277f265797@webmail.netspace.net.au> > I am a Senior Recruiter for Oracle Corporation. > We are currently recruiting for Java Architects So why post it to a perl list? ------------------------------------------------------------ This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au From david.talamelli at oracle.com Tue Aug 15 19:20:13 2006 From: david.talamelli at oracle.com (David Talamelli) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:20:13 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] FW: Positions with Oracle: VIC/NSW Message-ID: <20060816122013618.00000001084@dtalamel-au> To follow up on some initial enquiries, I am mindful that my previous email is a bit off topic for the Perl Users Group - however with some of these roles Perl experience on top of other skill sets may be suitable for these roles. The last thing I want to do is send spam mail to the group - but I did want to make yourselves aware of the opportunities here at Oracle - if not for these positions at least to provide a contact for you if you do want to see what we are doing here. Apologies for any inconvenience. Regards; David Talamelli -----Original Message----- From: David Talamelli [mailto:david.talamelli at oracle.com] Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:25 AM To: melbourne-pm at pm.org Subject: Positions with Oracle: VIC/NSW Good morning, I am a Senior Recruiter for Oracle Corporation. We are currently recruiting for Java Architects in both of our NSW and VIC offices. The roles are working in our Consulting Services so you will spend a large portion of time on client site involved in various implementations/project work. I have Position Descriptions and more information that I can provide if anyone is interested. Alternatively if you know anyone who might be looking for work please feel free to pass my contact details on or have them contact me. I hope that this information helps but again please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or need to discuss further. Regards; David Talamelli Senior Recruiter Oracle Corporation Australia Pty Limited Level 7, 324 St Kilda Road MELBOURNE VIC 3004 Tel - +61 3 8616 3364 Mob - +61 402 681 632 Web - iRecruitment.oracle.com Oracle Recruiting: "Continuously selected by our clients as the exclusive vendor of pre-eminent talent" The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. No internal Oracle email, except that clearly intended for public distribution (e.g. Oracle Press Releases) should be sent to any party outside of Oracle. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/melbourne-pm/attachments/20060816/d016e437/attachment.html From alecclews at gmail.com Wed Aug 16 00:37:49 2006 From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:37:49 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Damian's Typing Utility Message-ID: <3c2b63c00608160037u5d93d4fr2cbcb478f4ba0c57@mail.gmail.com> G'Day, Does anyone know the name of the module (I believe developed by Damian Conway) that automates coding when giving presentations? (i.e. It inserts text into a 'file') Thanks -- Alec Clews Melbourne, Australia. Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C From pjf at perltraining.com.au Wed Aug 16 00:46:35 2006 From: pjf at perltraining.com.au (Paul Fenwick) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:46:35 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Damian's Typing Utility In-Reply-To: <3c2b63c00608160037u5d93d4fr2cbcb478f4ba0c57@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c2b63c00608160037u5d93d4fr2cbcb478f4ba0c57@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44E2CD5B.30007@perltraining.com.au> G'day Alec / Melb.PM, Alec Clews wrote: > Does anyone know the name of the module (I believe developed by Damian > Conway) that automates coding when giving presentations? (i.e. It > inserts text into a 'file') The module is IO::Prompt. I don't believe that the autotyping feature is mentioned in the documentation itself, but it is in some of the examples. In particular, take a look at: http://search.cpan.org/src/DCONWAY/IO-Prompt-v0.99.4/examples/data.pl Cheerio, Paul -- Paul Fenwick | http://perltraining.com.au/ Director of Training | Ph: +61 3 9354 6001 Perl Training Australia | Fax: +61 3 9354 2681 From damian at conway.org Wed Aug 16 00:49:58 2006 From: damian at conway.org (Damian Conway) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:49:58 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Damian's Typing Utility In-Reply-To: <3c2b63c00608160037u5d93d4fr2cbcb478f4ba0c57@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c2b63c00608160037u5d93d4fr2cbcb478f4ba0c57@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44E2CE26.2030109@conway.org> Alec Clews asked: > Does anyone know the name of the module (I believe developed by Damian > Conway) that automates coding when giving presentations? (i.e. It > inserts text into a 'file') The module is IO::Prompt, but it only works within Perl programs. That is, it automates typing input into a Perl program, not text into a file. Dmaian From andrew.stuart at flatraterecruitment.com.au Sun Aug 20 22:41:48 2006 From: andrew.stuart at flatraterecruitment.com.au (Andrew Stuart) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:41:48 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Question from a recruiter References: <20060619094429.GA7970@taz.net.au> <44976CB7.1090502@perltraining.com.au> Message-ID: <023f01c6c4e4$7e896940$6800000a@swishgroup.local> Hello, Is it okay for me to post a job ad here? It's a bit unusual in that we are looking for a Python programmer but because there's not so many of them we are inviting Perl programmers to apply who might like to be working with Python. Thanks Andrew Stuart Managing Director Flat Rate Recruitment Head Office: 68 -72 York St South Melbourne, Victoria 3205 Phone: 1300 55 91 92 Phone 03 9696 1616 Fax: +61 3 9686 6680 Mobile: 0417 034 241 Email: andrew.stuart at FlatRateRecruitment.com.au Web: http://www.FlatRateRecruitment.com.au From lists at holsman.net Sun Aug 20 22:47:51 2006 From: lists at holsman.net (Ian Holsman) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:47:51 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Question from a recruiter In-Reply-To: <023f01c6c4e4$7e896940$6800000a@swishgroup.local> References: <20060619094429.GA7970@taz.net.au> <44976CB7.1090502@perltraining.com.au> <023f01c6c4e4$7e896940$6800000a@swishgroup.local> Message-ID: <8C0696F6-D585-4033-8478-53A6D231E9ED@holsman.net> Hi Andrew. if the job is django related you might want to try gypsyjobs.com there is also a python job board on http://www.python.org/community/ jobs/ which most people are on. regards Ian. On 21/08/2006, at 3:41 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote: > Hello, > > Is it okay for me to post a job ad here? > > It's a bit unusual in that we are looking for a Python programmer but > because there's not so many of them we are inviting Perl > programmers to > apply who might like to be working with Python. > > Thanks > > Andrew Stuart > > Managing Director > Flat Rate Recruitment > Head Office: > 68 -72 York St > South Melbourne, Victoria 3205 > Phone: 1300 55 91 92 > Phone 03 9696 1616 > Fax: +61 3 9686 6680 > Mobile: 0417 034 241 > Email: andrew.stuart at FlatRateRecruitment.com.au > Web: http://www.FlatRateRecruitment.com.au > > _______________________________________________ > Melbourne-pm mailing list > Melbourne-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm -- Ian Holsman Ian at Holsman.net join http://gypsyjobs.com the marketplace for django developers From gcross at fastmail.fm Sun Aug 20 22:58:04 2006 From: gcross at fastmail.fm (Graeme Cross) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:58:04 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Question from a recruiter In-Reply-To: <023f01c6c4e4$7e896940$6800000a@swishgroup.local> References: <20060619094429.GA7970@taz.net.au> <44976CB7.1090502@perltraining.com.au> <023f01c6c4e4$7e896940$6800000a@swishgroup.local> Message-ID: <1156139884.20956.269013400@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:41:48 +1000, "Andrew Stuart" said: > > Is it okay for me to post a job ad here? > > It's a bit unusual in that we are looking for a Python programmer but > because there's not so many of them we are inviting Perl programmers to > apply who might like to be working with Python. > > Thanks > Andrew Stuart Perhaps try a post to the Melbourne Python mailing list first? http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug - Graeme -- Graeme Cross E-mail: gcross at fastmail.net From andrew.stuart at flatraterecruitment.com.au Wed Aug 23 18:24:07 2006 From: andrew.stuart at flatraterecruitment.com.au (Andrew Stuart) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:24:07 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] OT: Melbourne job: Senior PHP Developer - "the best place to do PHP in Australia" References: <20060619094429.GA7970@taz.net.au> <44976CB7.1090502@perltraining.com.au> <023f01c6c4e4$7e896940$6800000a@swishgroup.local> <8C0696F6-D585-4033-8478-53A6D231E9ED@holsman.net> Message-ID: <027601c6c71b$fec5fb30$6800000a@swishgroup.local> Melbourne job: Senior PHP Developer - "the best place to do PHP in Australia" Perl, C/C++ or OO language experience is desirable for this role but the role itself is coding in PHP - we want someone who is primarily a PHP developer but has experience across a range of programming languages. I recently heard someone describe this company as "the best place to do PHP in Australia". We think it is, but why? A large team of passionate like-minded smart software engineers, a highly successful, well-funded company, a technically driven environment, a relaxed yet hard working Internet-company environment, exciting and challenging work, interesting problems to solve, open source technologies and exciting new systems to develop. * Challenging back-end development - designing and building a sophisticated API in OO PHP * Exciting Internet company in the Web analytics and search field * St Kilda Rd location * Linux environment This is not "yet another PHP job building small websites". This is a chance to work at a leading global Internet search and web analytics company. This company is one of Australia's greatest Internet success stories. If you want real-world programming challenges then this may be the job for you. We're looking for someone who thinks logically and is passionate about PHP development. We're looking for someone who does this work because they love it. Core Activities: * Develop advanced OO PHP software * Apply your superior problem solving skills to come up with innovative solutions * Implement optimised SQL queries from PHP * Liaise with developers Essential Skills: * Strong Object Oriented PHP Programming experience * Strong SQL database experience * Team player Desired Skills: * Knowledge of Perl, Linux and UNIX shell scripting This is an exciting, growing company that is already successful and becoming more so every day. You'll need a sense of humour but you won't need a suit - this is a suit-free software development environment. We welcome telephone enquiries to (03) 9696 1616 If this sounds like you then send your resume to info at flatraterecruitment.com.au Please note this is a salaried full time role. From scottp at dd.com.au Sat Aug 26 04:51:00 2006 From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:51:00 +1000 Subject: [Melbourne-pm] User Groups: Apress Summer Newsletter Is Here! References: Message-ID: <9529B08E-21A3-4766-BDF2-BD96750D2946@dd.com.au> Thought this was worth passing on, especially the free books you can download. Scott > Apress User Group Newsletter > Issue 6; Summer, 2006 > > ****PLEASE FORWARD OR POST THIS > NEWSLETTER FOR ALL GROUP MEMBERS**** > > ****FEEL FREE TO EDIT THIS LETTER SO THAT IT FITS IN WITH YOUR USER > GROUP FOCUS**** > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Sections: > > 1. Let's Catch Up > 2. Free eBooks to Download > 3. The Latest betaBooks > 4. It's Not Too Late to Join the Apress Affiliate Program > 5. The Latest Apress Books--Hot Off the Press > 6. Forthcoming Books--Fall Releases > 7. Upcoming Tradeshows > > *************************************** > > 1. Let's Catch Up > > A. Apress Catalog > > As we approach fall, you're probably getting back down to business > after summer vacations. Get your skills in shape with the newest > Apress books. Apress is just about to publish its second glamorous > 81/2" by 11" catalog, featuring titles through December 2006. If > you're in the US and you'd like a copy, please send an e-mail to > me, Janet, at janet at apress.com with your group name and shipping > address. Please enter "Catalog Request" in the subject line. > > If you're outside of the US, you may access the PDF version of the > Apress Printed Catalog on the Apress Trade Site, http:// > www.apress.com/tradesite. The current version of the catalog is > called "Summer/Fall 2006." (You only need to quickly register to > access any of the Trade Site's downloads. You'll be prompted for e- > mail address and the name of the bookstore you're affiliated with. > Enter "n/a" in the latter text box, since it doesn't apply to user > group members). > > B. 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