<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Yeah, I would like to read your two cents.<div><br></div><div>Harry</div><div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Sep 22, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Mike Bourdon wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Being a contingency recruiter here in the greater LA area for 26 years, I may have some insight to this. Some of you know me personally. If I receive enough of a positive response, I would be happy to give my 2 cents.<div><br></div><div>Mike Bourdon <br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 9/22/10, Todd Cranston-Cuebas <i><<a href="mailto:geekhunter@gmail.com">geekhunter@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Todd Cranston-Cuebas <<a href="mailto:geekhunter@gmail.com">geekhunter@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [LA.pm] jobs available, going unfulfilled<br>To: "Jordan Schwartz" <<a href="mailto:jordan247@gmail.com">jordan247@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: "Los Angeles Perl Mongers" <<a href="mailto:Losangeles-pm@pm.org">Losangeles-pm@pm.org</a>><br>Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 1:08 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1912454984"><br clear="all">Jordan notes that the demand is clearly not limited to perl and I
agree.
There is a huge push for hiring that is occurring and you're seeing
that at the user groups, job postings, recruiter-sponsored events, etc. The question is... are these jobs being filled?<br>
<br><br><div class="yiv1912454984gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Jordan Schwartz <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jordan247@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="x-msg://68/mc/compose?to=jordan247@gmail.com">jordan247@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv1912454984gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="yiv1912454984im">> Now, I'm really curious. Why is this?<br>
<br>
</div>The demand is for more than just perl slots. i have seen<br>
recruiters at the LA Java UG, and at a PHP meetups for months.<br>
<br>
Also the demand is for more then just programmer / developer types,<br>
the UNIX User Association of Socal jobs list , <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://uuasc.org/">uuasc.org</a>, has been<br>
seeing a steady flow of Sysadmin postions, and recruiters at the meetings.<br>
<br>
Additionally the well attended SoCal Devops meetups are a driven<br>
by recruiting.<br>
<br>
I think its that business need to have an internet presence if they have any<br>
chance of being successfull and L.A. is fairly diverse with Aerospace,<br>
entertainment,<br>
Misc. Tech, etc.<br>
<br>
There may have been some pent up demand after the financial services /<br>
home loan meltdown<br>
a few year back that put me on the market and there is enough new<br>
business and upgrades to<br>
keep the demand for skilled labor where it should be.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Jordan<br>
</font><div class="yiv1912454984im"><br>
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Randal L. Schwartz<br>
<<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:merlyn@stonehenge.com" target="_blank" href="x-msg://68/mc/compose?to=merlyn@stonehenge.com">merlyn@stonehenge.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="yiv1912454984h5">> Twice in the last two days, two different organizations in the greater<br>
> LA area approached me to help them find folks to fill mid-level Perl<br>
> hacking slots (varying between IT and webdev). They both said "it's<br>
> getting *very* hard to find people."<br>
><br>
> Now, I'm really curious. Why is this?<br>
><br>
> Is it a supply problem, or a demand problem, or both?<br>
><br>
> As in, are there fewer Perl programmers here but the same demand?<br>
><br>
> Or the same (or more) Perl programmers here, but even more demand?<br>
><br>
> Or something else entirely?<br>
><br>
> By the way... I'm not trying to make a buck out of this. I'm just<br>
> trying to help people who ask me to help, and I'm also genuinely curious<br>
> about the state of hiring in the Perl community, particulary in LA since<br>
> I'm also working here for a while.<br>
><br>
> (I'll also be sending this message to the other local PM groups, so if<br>
> you see it multiple times, I'm sorry.)<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
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