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Ben,<BR>
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If you wish to borrow a laptop for your presentation, I'm sure we can accommodate. Let me know.<BR>
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Of course, as you already know, the laptops here are preconfigured with Windows XP :p<BR>
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On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 12:00 -0700, losangeles-pm-request@pm.org wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Today's Topics:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> 1. Re: Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com (Ben Tilly)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> 2. Re: Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com (David Fetter)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> 3. Re: [lapm] Re: Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com (Eric Hammond)</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:48:42 -0700</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: "Ben Tilly" <<A HREF="mailto:btilly@gmail.com">btilly@gmail.com</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: "David Fetter" <<A HREF="mailto:david@fetter.org">david@fetter.org</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Cc: Los Angeles Perl Mongers <<A HREF="mailto:losangeles-pm@pm.org">losangeles-pm@pm.org</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message-ID:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> <<A HREF="mailto:acc274b30710291048g1c3747aase3bd00a27acb5459@mail.gmail.com">acc274b30710291048g1c3747aase3bd00a27acb5459@mail.gmail.com</A>></FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">On 10/29/07, David Fetter <<A HREF="mailto:david@fetter.org">david@fetter.org</A>> wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 08:03:26AM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > On 10/28/07, Quinn Weaver <<A HREF="mailto:quinn@fairpath.com">quinn@fairpath.com</A>> wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">[...]</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Ah. That presumes 3 things not at present true.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > 1. I have somewhere to put said slides.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > 2. I have slides to put.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > 3. I have the ability to give the presentation.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Having never given one of these before, I have no computer to give</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > the presentation with (I assume Rent can provide one), no</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > slide-preparing software (I'm hoping someone will suggest one),</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> OpenOffice has decent presentation software, and if you have a Mac</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> available, Keynote is fantastic, even though it's neither Free nor</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> free. Anybody got thumbs up/down on koffice's offering?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I'm not interested in spending $79 on iWork for one presentation. And</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">yes, I know that I could use the 30 day free trial, but I still don't</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">want to do it. It just feels dishonest.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">OpenOffice is possible. But I just tried it. I tried to create a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">simple page and add a table. (A complex 4x4 table will be key to my</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">presentation.) After 10 minutes of messing around, I realize that it</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">will drive me crazy. I'm sure that if I had to give a lot of</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">presentations I'd learn the software and find it very useful. But for</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">one time, it would literally be easier to produce it myself in HTML.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I think I'd prefer something I can develop in a text format.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > and no internet home appropriate for putting the presentation on</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > (I'm hoping someone will volunteer one, I know multiple people on</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > this list with space).</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Is there space on <A HREF="http://losangeles.pm.org">http://losangeles.pm.org</A> ?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Not for me to say, though I'd happily use it if offered.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > I am, in short, singularly ill-prepared and hopeful of assistance.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > :-)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> "Ill-prepared" is what happens when you show up for the talk without</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> having prepared. What you're doing now is called "preparing well." :)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Let me amend that. I am *currently* unprepared. I am attempting to</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">change this state of affairs. :-)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Assuming all of those change, I'm hoping to prepare slides on my</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > wife's computer, put them up at the donated home, and give a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > presentation on the borrowed computer off of that location. And</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > I'll gladly let everyone know where the presentation is afterwards.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Cheers, Ben</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> I don't think I'll be able to get down from Oakland for this one.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Break a leg, as they say in show biz. :)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Thanks. I hope I won't.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Cheers,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Ben</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message: 2</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:00:30 -0700</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: David Fetter <<A HREF="mailto:david@fetter.org">david@fetter.org</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: Ben Tilly <<A HREF="mailto:btilly@gmail.com">btilly@gmail.com</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Cc: Los Angeles Perl Mongers <<A HREF="mailto:losangeles-pm@pm.org">losangeles-pm@pm.org</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message-ID: <<A HREF="mailto:20071029180030.GJ14638@fetter.org">20071029180030.GJ14638@fetter.org</A>></FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 10:48:42AM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> On 10/29/07, David Fetter <<A HREF="mailto:david@fetter.org">david@fetter.org</A>> wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> ></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > OpenOffice has decent presentation software, and if you have a Mac</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > available, Keynote is fantastic, even though it's neither Free nor</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > free. Anybody got thumbs up/down on koffice's offering?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> I'm not interested in spending $79 on iWork for one presentation.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> And yes, I know that I could use the 30 day free trial, but I still</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> don't want to do it. It just feels dishonest.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">It's well worth the price if you plan to do presentations in the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">future.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> OpenOffice is possible. But I just tried it. I tried to create a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> simple page and add a table. (A complex 4x4 table will be key to my</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> presentation.) After 10 minutes of messing around, I realize that it</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> will drive me crazy. I'm sure that if I had to give a lot of</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> presentations I'd learn the software and find it very useful.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">This is part of what makes Keynote worth the price. Constructing a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">slide deck is dead easy, and the help system is really helpful. The</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">killer feature from my point of view is the "presenter display,"</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">which, as far as I know, is unique to Keynote.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> But for one time, it would literally be easier to produce it myself</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> in HTML.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">In that case, try S5.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Cheers,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">David.</FONT>
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Alain Avakian
Manager, Software Development
Rent.com, an eBay company
310.449.6462
<A HREF="mailto:alain@rent.com">alain@rent.com</A>
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