From jleader at alumni.caltech.edu Mon Nov 1 09:48:51 2010 From: jleader at alumni.caltech.edu (Jeremy Leader) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 09:48:51 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Need some advice In-Reply-To: <20101030195219.M38429@acatysmoof.com> References: <20101030195219.M38429@acatysmoof.com> Message-ID: <4CCEEF73.3040701@alumni.caltech.edu> I'm not sure how much recourse you have. It probably depends how much of a paper trail you can show to demonstrate that you're the "real" OpenWebMail project. If you can show that, and show that the project existed prior to his registration of the domain, you might be able to us the "Uniform Dispute Resolution Process" to get the domain away from him. See http://www.icann.org/en/udrp/udrp.htm for the details; basically, you have to show that you had rights to the name before he registered the domain, and that he registered the domain in "bad faith". You might also see if you can find an attorney familiar with domain names, and willing to advise you on a "pro bono" basis. -- Jeremy Leader jleader at alumni.caltech.edu Alex Teslik wrote: > Hi LA.pm, > > I am the lead developer of OpenWebMail (http://openwebmail.acatysmoof.com) > and I need some advice. Our old homepage at openwebmail.org has been taken > hostage by the guy who registered it. He is now link-farming the site and > making quite a bit of money from the pagerank everyone's work has given his > domain (over $2400 this month so far). He will not grant us any access to > change the site and refuses to stop link-farming it. > > I've wanted to bring it up at several of the last meetings, but I've missed > them due to a new baby at home. I'd really appreciate your input as I'm not > sure what to do. We've got a release coming up after two years of hard work > and I'd really prefer not to fork the project. I've tried contacting google to > make them aware of his abuse of the pagerank that was built up by open source > contributors, to no avail. > > Is anyone aware of an open source project's homepage being hijacked like > this in the past? How did they handle it? > > Thanks, > Alex > > P.S.- You can see how much money he's made here: > http://www.openwebmail.org/donation > "support payments" he says :( > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm From elvis at elvisware.com Mon Nov 1 09:55:17 2010 From: elvis at elvisware.com (Ron Stephan) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:55:17 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Fwd: Need some advice References: <4CCEEF73.3040701@alumni.caltech.edu> Message-ID: <70460F3B-5853-4104-A751-19C45E5A13E1@elvisware.com> I had a domain roll out once. (long story with odd vendor deleted here). I was advised at the time (two years ago) that if you have the trademark you will eventually win it back. If you don't you are in a much tougher position. The bad news is your link-farmer does this for a living. He probably knows the true value of your domain better than you do. Somebody up here must know a good attorney to go to on this. Ron "Elvis" Stephan Begin forwarded message: > From: Jeremy Leader > Date: November 1, 2010 9:48:51 AM PDT > To: Alex Teslik > Cc: losangeles-pm at mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Need some advice > > I'm not sure how much recourse you have. It probably depends how much of a paper trail you can show to demonstrate that you're the "real" OpenWebMail project. If you can show that, and show that the project existed prior to his registration of the domain, you might be able to us the "Uniform Dispute Resolution Process" to get the domain away from him. See http://www.icann.org/en/udrp/udrp.htm for the details; basically, you have to show that you had rights to the name before he registered the domain, and that he registered the domain in "bad faith". > > You might also see if you can find an attorney familiar with domain names, and willing to advise you on a "pro bono" basis. > > -- > Jeremy Leader > jleader at alumni.caltech.edu > > Alex Teslik wrote: >> Hi LA.pm, >> I am the lead developer of OpenWebMail (http://openwebmail.acatysmoof.com) >> and I need some advice. Our old homepage at openwebmail.org has been taken >> hostage by the guy who registered it. He is now link-farming the site and >> making quite a bit of money from the pagerank everyone's work has given his >> domain (over $2400 this month so far). He will not grant us any access to >> change the site and refuses to stop link-farming it. >> I've wanted to bring it up at several of the last meetings, but I've missed >> them due to a new baby at home. I'd really appreciate your input as I'm not >> sure what to do. We've got a release coming up after two years of hard work >> and I'd really prefer not to fork the project. I've tried contacting google to >> make them aware of his abuse of the pagerank that was built up by open source >> contributors, to no avail. >> Is anyone aware of an open source project's homepage being hijacked like >> this in the past? How did they handle it? >> Thanks, >> Alex >> P.S.- You can see how much money he's made here: >> http://www.openwebmail.org/donation >> "support payments" he says :( >> _______________________________________________ >> Losangeles-pm mailing list >> Losangeles-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wdr1 at pobox.com Mon Nov 1 09:56:41 2010 From: wdr1 at pobox.com (William Reardon) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:56:41 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Need some advice In-Reply-To: <4CCEEF73.3040701@alumni.caltech.edu> References: <20101030195219.M38429@acatysmoof.com> <4CCEEF73.3040701@alumni.caltech.edu> Message-ID: Side note: I don't think anything on the acatysmoof.com page warning users that the openwebmail.org is not legitimate. You may want to consider doing so & ask people to link to your page instead. (Or possibly change the name of the project all together.) -Bill On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Jeremy Leader wrote: > I'm not sure how much recourse you have. It probably depends how much of a > paper trail you can show to demonstrate that you're the "real" OpenWebMail > project. If you can show that, and show that the project existed prior to > his registration of the domain, you might be able to us the "Uniform Dispute > Resolution Process" to get the domain away from him. See > http://www.icann.org/en/udrp/udrp.htm for the details; basically, you have > to show that you had rights to the name before he registered the domain, and > that he registered the domain in "bad faith". > > You might also see if you can find an attorney familiar with domain names, > and willing to advise you on a "pro bono" basis. > > -- > Jeremy Leader > jleader at alumni.caltech.edu > > > Alex Teslik wrote: > >> Hi LA.pm, >> >> I am the lead developer of OpenWebMail ( >> http://openwebmail.acatysmoof.com) >> and I need some advice. Our old homepage at openwebmail.org has been >> taken >> hostage by the guy who registered it. He is now link-farming the site and >> making quite a bit of money from the pagerank everyone's work has given >> his >> domain (over $2400 this month so far). He will not grant us any access to >> change the site and refuses to stop link-farming it. >> >> I've wanted to bring it up at several of the last meetings, but I've >> missed >> them due to a new baby at home. I'd really appreciate your input as I'm >> not >> sure what to do. We've got a release coming up after two years of hard >> work >> and I'd really prefer not to fork the project. I've tried contacting >> google to >> make them aware of his abuse of the pagerank that was built up by open >> source >> contributors, to no avail. >> >> Is anyone aware of an open source project's homepage being hijacked like >> this in the past? How did they handle it? >> >> Thanks, >> Alex >> >> P.S.- You can see how much money he's made here: >> http://www.openwebmail.org/donation >> "support payments" he says :( >> _______________________________________________ >> Losangeles-pm mailing list >> Losangeles-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm >> > > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrboss1 at aol.com Mon Nov 1 12:19:21 2010 From: wrboss1 at aol.com (wrboss1 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 15:19:21 -0400 Subject: [LA.pm] Need some advice In-Reply-To: <20101030195219.M38429@acatysmoof.com> References: <20101030195219.M38429@acatysmoof.com> Message-ID: <8CD4810D28C3EB1-160C-209B@webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com> Hey, I'm no lawyer but as far as options go you might also consider contacting the Feds or police. ?Representing yourself as someone else for financial gain sounds like fraud to me. ?If this fellow has had no involvement in the project for the past few years (or ever) then clearly he's trading on your good name in order to make money. ?Might try contacting the Post Office Postal Inspectors (using a fraudulent identity to make money) or the FBI. (https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov) Likewise, contacting PayPal to report the website as fraudulent might be another recourse. He might be able to keep the domain name if you aren't successful in a Domain Name Dispute Resolution but he can't represent himself as the real OpenWebMail to make money -- especially using copyright material. The actual project may not be copyrighted because of the GNU license *but* whoever originally created the website has a copyright on it and all content, he can't use that. ?You might also try emailing the "badguy" a cease and desist letter for violating copyright (on the website) and if he refuses, email the server provider a copyright cease and desist letter demanding a takedown of the site. A Trademark on OpenWebMail would probably make everything way easier -- so if you have that, happy days. You should also consider (as suggested by another) posting 'what's happened' on your legitimate website so it's clear what's happened since I have no idea how long the Domain Name Dispute Resolution process takes. I'm not familiar with the full details of your situation so these are just ideas and may not work at all -- I agree that a good lawyer would be really helpful but stealing someone's website is so egregious that you should be able to find someone who can help. ? Good luck. Will -----Original Message----- From: Alex Teslik <alex at acatysmoof.com> To: losangeles-pm at mail.pm.org Sent: Sat, Oct 30, 2010 1:05 pm Subject: [LA.pm] Need some advice Hi LA.pm, I am the lead developer of OpenWebMail (http://openwebmail.acatysmoof.com) and I need some advice. Our old homepage at openwebmail.org has been taken hostage by the guy who registered it. He is now link-farming the site and making quite a bit of money from the pagerank everyone's work has given his domain (over $2400 this month so far). He will not grant us any access to change the site and refuses to stop link-farming it. I've wanted to bring it up at several of the last meetings, but I've missed them due to a new baby at home. I'd really appreciate your input as I'm not sure what to do. We've got a release coming up after two years of hard work and I'd really prefer not to fork the project. I've tried contacting google to make them aware of his abuse of the pagerank that was built up by open source contributors, to no avail. Is anyone aware of an open source project's homepage being hijacked like this in the past? How did they handle it? Thanks, Alex P.S.- You can see how much money he's made here: http://www.openwebmail.org/donation "support payments" he says :( _______________________________________________ Losangeles-pm mailing list Losangeles-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Pete at PeterBenjamin.com Mon Nov 1 13:17:28 2010 From: Pete at PeterBenjamin.com (Peter Benjamin) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 13:17:28 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Need some advice In-Reply-To: <8CD4810D28C3EB1-160C-209B@webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com> References: <20101030195219.M38429@acatysmoof.com> <8CD4810D28C3EB1-160C-209B@webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1288642648.1810.9.camel@aEmail> The ICANN process is slow and now costs money up front. See for yourself, as things change there. Do read it though. I advise suing in US Court, and in 2-3 weeks it will yours ... again. Easy as that. There are many court case decisions that reflect this outcome. If helps to have payment check stubs to the guy 'before' the name was registered by him, and written instructions you gave him. A paper trail helps TONS. Showing prior art and his involvement after that art... BIG. This type of registration happens all the time, and they all lose in USA Court, now a days. As long as you have represented the facts correctly in your one post. File this week, and you'll have it soonest, depending on trial date. He will request the date changed, do not allow this. He just wants to make more money. If the judge seems to be waivering, then insist all incoming money he gets go into a 3rd party deposit, that bars him from withdrawing the money, until the case is settled. And attach all previous earnings as well. Get nasty. Up the stakes. Present prior court decisions, ask for a de facto decision asap. No delays, without penalizing the guy. A small claims court might be fastest. Both parties can not have a lawyer, but you can be well coached. Also, there is reverse hijacking your name back to you, by filing a trademark NOW. Then sue for the name. google 'rev hijack' etc. Let us know how it works out. BTW, lousy Subject field value - contains no context words, too generic. Such is against all mailing list netiquette. Good luck. -p From c.groner at gmail.com Mon Nov 1 13:19:45 2010 From: c.groner at gmail.com (Carl Groner) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:19:45 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Need some advice In-Reply-To: <20101030195219.M38429@acatysmoof.com> References: <20101030195219.M38429@acatysmoof.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Alex Teslik wrote: > Hi LA.pm, > > ? I am the lead developer of OpenWebMail (http://openwebmail.acatysmoof.com) > and I need some advice. Our old homepage at openwebmail.org has been taken > hostage by the guy who registered it. He is now link-farming the site and > making quite a bit of money from the pagerank everyone's work has given his > domain (over $2400 this month so far). He will not grant us any access to > change the site and refuses to stop link-farming it. > > ? I've wanted to bring it up at several of the last meetings, but I've missed > them due to a new baby at home. I'd really appreciate your input as I'm not > sure what to do. We've got a release coming up after two years of hard work > and I'd really prefer not to fork the project. I've tried contacting google to > make them aware of his abuse of the pagerank that was built up by open source > contributors, to no avail. > > ? Is anyone aware of an open source project's homepage being hijacked like > this in the past? How did they handle it? > > Thanks, > Alex > > P.S.- You can see how much money he's made here: > http://www.openwebmail.org/donation > "support payments" he says :( You may want to consider contacting the Software Freedom Law Center for advice: http://www.softwarefreedom.org/ I personally have no experience working with them, but according to their website they provide "direct services to nonprofit FLOSS developers without charge". I'm not a lawyer and wont pretend to know anything about how these things are handled, but I'd imagine it'd be a simple case given the following statement quoted from the projects BSD license: # * Neither the name of The OpenWebMail Project nor the # names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote products # derived from this software without specific prior written permission. Good luck! Carl. From granny+lapm at gmail.com Wed Nov 3 12:58:54 2010 From: granny+lapm at gmail.com (Andrew Grangaard) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 12:58:54 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] November Meeting of LA.pm, Nov 17 at MediaTemple Message-ID: <4CD1BEFE.2000207@gmail.com> Hi Mongers! This month Media Temple has stepped up to host and provide a speaker, Josh Barratt. You've voted for Josh to speak on AnyEvent[0]. I'm looking forward to it, I hope you are too. See you in two weeks! Specific directions will be added to the la.pm.org website[1]. Big thanks for Oversee for hosting last month and to Merlyn for taking care of all of the arrangements. I saw a lot of new, downtown faces at the meeting and enjoyed the post-meeting social hour at a local bar. Does anyone have a recap/write-up of the 3 presentations? --Andrew Los Angeles[1] Perl Mongers[2] The Perl Users Group of the Los Angeles Metropolitan Area ____________________________ LA.pm's November Meeting What: Los Angeles Perl Mongers Meeting When: 7-9pm Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 (Third Wednesday) Where: Media Temple, 8520 National, Culver City, CA 90232. [3] Theme: Perl! RSVP: Responses always appreciated. fbook: facebook event 172484056096663 [4] Presentations: 1. You: TBD 2. Josh Barratt: AnyEvent -- Perl Asynchronous Programming [0] Abstract: Event driven programming has been a powerful paradigm for years, but it's emerging as an increasingly important way to work. Making events easy is part of what has made node.js so exciting, and is possible in Python with Eventlet and Ruby with EventMachine. Perl's answer to this is very mature and flexible: AnyEvent [0]. As well as an introduction to the module, how to use it, and some of the other modules in the "family", we'll cover some before/after examples of synchronous code made asynchronous. About our speakers: Josh Barratt is awesome and an engaging presenter. About your host: * Andrew Grangaard is a Senior Software Engineer and long time Perl Monk(ey). See you at 7 on Wednesday the 17th! --Andrew References 0. http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?AnyEvent 1. http://la.pm.org/ 2. http://www.pm.org/ 3. http://mediatemple.net/company/contact.php 4. http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=172484056096663 From Pete at PeterBenjamin.com Wed Nov 3 17:48:36 2010 From: Pete at PeterBenjamin.com (Peter Benjamin) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:48:36 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Need some advice In-Reply-To: <8CD4810D28C3EB1-160C-209B@webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com> References: <20101030195219.M38429@acatysmoof.com> <8CD4810D28C3EB1-160C-209B@webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1288831716.1797.613.camel@aEmail> I got to thinking, I've gotten one ISP who sells you domain names, and registers them in his firm's name, to change the DNS to point to my web hosting DNS server IPs, then changed the contact info so renewal notices go to the web site owner, and then worked him to change the name of the registrar to the rightful owner. It was a six month event, long and drawn out. The owner even knew the CEO's brother. Point is, as the person is a name banker, they know they will lose the name if it goes to court, and they are used to saber rattling. Yet, one might try several avenues first. Talking with him. Until they give in. Ask for something they say no, and then ask for what you really wanted, a small change, like contact info, and go down the slippery slope from there. It's slow. What I've seen get settled on his normal web hosting monthly fee, with set up waived, unlimited bandwidth (or 300 gig/month), unlimited disk storage, 50 email accounts (though I would not trust him and would have the MX records point elsewhere - Google?). He wants money, either some upfront, or monthly fee. What he does not know is, once for several years you have established content, authored by you, not him, that you can then yank the domain name away from him. I've seen this court many times. It hardly ever gets in front of a judge, being settled out of court, after the guy realizes he's going to be paying lawyers fees way in excess of any purchase price. That reminds me of another way... what state is his business in? What state does he live in? And what states are you able to file court case in? Make him travel to get to court. He cave before the first trial date. Likely the day before. Just because he does not want to pay the air fare, or book a lawyer to appear for him, away from his home. This works. The guy is likely breaking the TOS and AUP of his upstream supplier. Writing up a legal complaint and sending it to the upstream that violations of TOS/AUP are occurring, quoting the sentences involved, including choice quotes from emails the guy has sent, and copies of paychecks to him, for services rendered, showing ownership of the domain name is YOURS, not his, thus the terms of the TOS/AUP are clearly violated, will result in the upstream ISP launching an investigation, meaning the VP phones the guy, confirms details, tells him what must now happen, in what time frame, otherwise, the guy will suffer penalties spelled out in the TOS/AUP, like all balance of funds paid are lost with all services truncated, and the credit card number and his name and his firm's blacklisted. Resulting in loss of revenue while the guy transfers everything to a new upstream, to a new registrar, several days down time, worth hundreds of dollars in lost revenue, plus a huge effort over a week's time, and the lost of that time in money... equals the size of the payment you might buy the name from him for means a bean counter will turn over the name rather than suffer the upstream penalties for violations of the TOS/AUP. Does this work? Yes, I've done it. Do not email me child porn. I seem to get quite upset and research all one's domain names and have them all canceled, along with email accounts and web host assets, etc. Do not violation copyright and host material from people I know. Oh, that last one, if at the domain name is copyright infringement material, or violations of the GLP, or whatever, that is, he is making money, then the upstream ISP investigation will reveal and confirm this, and the site comes down, and he loses the domain name - if you can get the registrar involved, to give it to you, with a court order. I've seen that happen. Let me know what route you take, as I collect methods. -P From szabgab at gmail.com Thu Nov 4 22:12:49 2010 From: szabgab at gmail.com (Gabor Szabo) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 07:12:49 +0200 Subject: [LA.pm] Fwd: SCALE Announcement: One month left in SCALE 9x Call for Pape In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: SCALE Team Date: Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 3:47 AM Subject: SCALE Announcement: One month left in SCALE 9x Call for Pape To: szabgab at gmail.com [MEDIA: Press contact information appears at the end of this announcement.] Sharpen those No. 2 pencils: One month remaining in the SCALE 9x Call for Papers LOS ANGELES (Nov. 4, 2010) ? In an effort to continue our efforts to promote and educate the public on Free/Open Source Software projects, the Southern California Linux Expo SCALE 9x invites you to share your work with the rest of the FOSS community by submitting a talk for the first-of-the-year Linux expo. ?As the first major Linux event of the year, SCALE 9x gives speakers an opportunity to set the tone for what?s ahead in the coming year,? said Shyam Kapadia, the chair of the SCALE 9x Speakers Committee. ?For developers and those who advocate FOSS, it can serve as a springboard for further success as the year progresses.? The deadline for the SCALE 9x Call for Papers is a little over a month away, on Dec. 13, with notification of acceptance being sent to speakers by Dec. 27. Considering the rapid rise in the adoption of open source in the last few years, SCALE 9x encourages proposals directed toward open source success stories, open source expansion into different markets and fields, as well as novel applications. Expanding on the success of the previous years, SCALE 9x will have five speaker tracks, including two specialized tracks, (the beginners' track and the developers' track) and a new system administration track catered toward the growing population of attendees interested in using open source alternatives for system administration tasks. The remaining two speaker tracks fall under a general category that will accommodate talks across a wide spectrum of interests and skill levels. Some topics of interest include, but are not limited to: -- Kernel Internals and Enhancements -- Unix variants:Tools and Appliances -- Open Source for Embedded Platforms -- Open Source development tools for Mobile Devices -- Open Source for Cloud Computing -- Open Source for Unified Communications -- In-depth Programming/Scripting with Open Source Languages (Examples include Perl, Ruby, PHP, Python, etc.) -- Desktop Operating Systems Linux/Unix/Windows Inter-operability -- Shell Programming -- Open Source Productivity Applications Tools for Multimedia and Gaming -- Tools for Profiling and Performance Tuning -- Open Source Animation Tools -- Open Source Database Platforms -- Open Source Licensing -- Government Policies with Open Source -- Open Source Promotion and Adoption: Current State -- Open Source Success Stories -- Open Source Audio/Video Manipulation tools For more information on the SCALE 9x Call for Papers and how to submit them, visit: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale9x/blog/scale-9x-call-papers MEDIA: For further press information, contact Larry Cafiero by e-mail at press at socallinuxexpo.org or by calling him at 831-335-7303. From granny+lapm at gmail.com Wed Nov 17 11:54:07 2010 From: granny+lapm at gmail.com (Andrew Grangaard) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:54:07 -0800 Subject: [LA.pm] LA.pm Meetup Tonight at Media Temple Message-ID: <4CE432DF.5020204@gmail.com> Presentations: 1. Josh Barratt: /AnyEvent -- Perl Asynchronous Programming/ Abstract: Event driven programming has been a powerful paradigm for years, but it's emerging as an increasingly important way to work. Making events easy is part of what has made node.js so exciting, and is possible in Python with Eventlet and Ruby with EventMachine. Perl's answer to this is very mature and flexible: AnyEvent. As well as an introduction to the module, how to use it, and some of the other modules in the "family", we'll cover some before/after examples of synchronous code made asynchronous. 2. 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URL: From jordan247 at gmail.com Wed Nov 17 14:51:48 2010 From: jordan247 at gmail.com (Jordan Schwartz) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:51:48 -0800 Subject: [LA.pm] LA.pm Meetup Tonight at Media Temple In-Reply-To: <4CE432DF.5020204@gmail.com> References: <4CE432DF.5020204@gmail.com> Message-ID: Regarding finding and parking @ mediatemple.... As you are driving on National when you see the funky six story tower that is our campus. Although the Media Temple Lobby with lighted logo is facing National Blvd. the parking can be entered around the corner on Hayden at 3528-42 Hayden go in through the gate and find a visitor or media temple spot, The gate goes up around 7PM and we can validate if needed. You can also park at the metered spots on Hayden as well. Assuming you park in the lot there is a well hidden unlit double door between 2 one story buildings on the east side of the lot. That lead to a hallway that if you jog left will lead to an exit that empties on National. Two your right is a building that looks like it has an upside down wedding cake built into the corner, that is the BeeHive, and you should see the media temple logo in the reception area where someone will guide you the rest of the way to the meeing.. If you park in the lot it may be easier to walk out the gate, make a right on hayden and a right on national and the BeeHive will be on your right. See you there, Jordan 2010/11/17 Andrew Grangaard > > Presentations: > > 1. Josh Barratt: *AnyEvent -- Perl Asynchronous Programming* > Abstract: > Event driven programming has been a powerful paradigm for years, but > it's emerging as an increasingly important way to work. Making events easy > is part of what has made node.js so exciting, and is possible in Python with > Eventlet and Ruby with EventMachine. Perl's answer to this is very mature > and flexible: AnyEvent. As well as an introduction to the module, how to use > it, and some of the other modules in the "family", we'll cover some > before/after examples of synchronous code made asynchronous. > 2. Gabe Costello: *Epistemology & Perl Oracles* > Abstract: > Most of us are familiar with the output of Perl's native test oracle > every time we install a module from CPAN, ok, not ok. When testing, did you > ever think that you might need to know more than that to isolate faults? > This discussion covers the Test Anything Protocol (TAP), capturing system > events & using Perl to lean more what you know & what you don't know about > the application you are testing. > > About our speakers: Josh Barratt is CTO of MediaTemple. > > Gabe Costello is a Software Quality Assurance Engineer at MediaTemple. > > > Details: > What: Los Angeles Perl Mongers Meeting When: 7-9pm Date: Wednesday, > November 17, 2010 Where: Media Temple, 8520 National, Culver City, CA > 90232. Theme: Perl! 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URL: From tommystanton at gmail.com Wed Nov 17 16:25:26 2010 From: tommystanton at gmail.com (Tommy Stanton) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:25:26 -0800 Subject: [LA.pm] LA.pm Meetup Tonight at Media Temple In-Reply-To: References: <4CE432DF.5020204@gmail.com> Message-ID: To add to Jordan's directions (although I've never been to Media Temple either ;), here is a Google map link (from Santa Monica) with a street view of the entrance to the parking structure: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=santa+monica,+ca&daddr=3528-42+Hayden+Avenue,+Culver+City,+CA&geocode=FX4YBwIdyffv-CkZAJHCzqTCgDGr9SP_tQoXtA%3BFX0zBwIdaabx-Cn9oWcqm7nCgDEvC-3qZs8YHA&hl=en&mra=ls&sll=34.025401,-118.381248&sspn=0.005806,0.009645&ie=UTF8&ll=34.025668,-118.381172&spn=0.002605,0.009645&z=17&layer=c&cbll=34.02567,-118.381168&panoid=Cfuz_EZKZfy87ViZPSpK-A&cbp=11,111.17,,0,6.1 Any recommendation on a less busy route from Santa Monica than the 10 freeway? Take Venice Blvd perhaps? Here is what the Media Temple building looks like from National St: http://s2.mt-cdn.net/_images/screenshots/contact_hq__4c28f70.jpg Looking forward to the meeting! -Tommy 2010/11/17 Jordan Schwartz > > Regarding finding and parking @ mediatemple.... > > As you are driving on National when you see the funky six story tower that is our campus. > > Although the Media Temple Lobby with lighted logo is facing National Blvd. the > parking can be entered around the corner on Hayden at 3528-42 Hayden go in through > the gate and find a visitor or media temple spot,?? The gate goes up around 7PM > and we can validate if needed. > > You can also park at the metered spots on Hayden as well. > > Assuming you park in the lot there is a well hidden unlit double door between 2 one story buildings on the east side of the lot.? That lead to a hallway that if you jog left will lead to an exit that empties on National. > Two your right is a building that looks like it has an upside down wedding cake built into the corner, that is the BeeHive, and you should see the media temple logo in the reception area where someone will > guide you the rest of the way to the meeing.. > > If you park in the lot it may be easier to walk out the gate, make a right on hayden and a right on national and the BeeHive will be on your right. > > See you there, > > Jordan > > 2010/11/17 Andrew Grangaard >> >> Presentations: >> >> Josh Barratt: AnyEvent -- Perl Asynchronous Programming >> Abstract: >> Event driven programming has been a powerful paradigm for years, but it's emerging as an increasingly important way to work. Making events easy is part of what has made node.js so exciting, and is possible in Python with Eventlet and Ruby with EventMachine. Perl's answer to this is very mature and flexible: AnyEvent. As well as an introduction to the module, how to use it, and some of the other modules in the "family", we'll cover some before/after examples of synchronous code made asynchronous. >> Gabe Costello: Epistemology & Perl Oracles >> Abstract: >> Most of us are familiar with the output of Perl's native test oracle every time we install a module from CPAN, ok, not ok. When testing, did you ever think that you might need to know more than that to isolate faults? This discussion covers the Test Anything Protocol (TAP), capturing system events & using Perl to lean more what you know & what you don't know about the application you are testing. >> >> About our speakers: >> >> Josh Barratt is CTO of MediaTemple. >> >> Gabe Costello is a Software Quality Assurance Engineer at MediaTemple. >> >> Details: >> >> What: Los Angeles Perl Mongers Meeting >> When: 7-9pm >> Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 >> Where: Media Temple, 8520 National, Culver City, CA 90232. >> Theme: Perl! >> RSVP: Responses always appreciated. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Losangeles-pm mailing list >> Losangeles-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > > > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm From josh at mediatemple.net Thu Nov 18 09:56:50 2010 From: josh at mediatemple.net (Joshua Barratt) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:56:50 -0800 Subject: [LA.pm] LA.pm Meetup Tonight at Media Temple In-Reply-To: <4CE432DF.5020204@gmail.com> References: <4CE432DF.5020204@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks to everyone for coming last night, that was a very awesome turnout! A few notes from my talk last night: The slides are available in PDF here: https://github.com/jbarratt/presentations/raw/master/AnyEvent/AnyEvent_Introduction.pdf You can get the source to the slides: https://github.com/jbarratt/presentations/tree/master/AnyEvent/AnyEvent/ which are powered by ShowOff: https://github.com/schacon/showoff The full (runnable) example code is in the directory beside it: https://github.com/jbarratt/presentations/tree/master/AnyEvent/examples/ Let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks again to those of you who joined us! Josh 2010/11/17 Andrew Grangaard > > Presentations: > > 1. Josh Barratt: *AnyEvent -- Perl Asynchronous Programming* > Abstract: > Event driven programming has been a powerful paradigm for years, but > it's emerging as an increasingly important way to work. Making events easy > is part of what has made node.js so exciting, and is possible in Python with > Eventlet and Ruby with EventMachine. 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URL: From granny+lapm at gmail.com Sun Nov 21 20:27:12 2010 From: granny+lapm at gmail.com (Andrew Grangaard) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 20:27:12 -0800 Subject: [LA.pm] LA.pm @ SCaLE -- deadline Dec 13 Message-ID: Hi Mongers! The Southern California Linux Expo is almost upon us. The deadline for proposals is Dec 13. Who would like to help us maintain a perl presence amongst the wider open source community? Tommy, David Williams and myself volunteered (during the past LA.pm) to "do something or man a booth." Who wants to join us? Any ideas what we should put in our proposal to SCaLE? Gabor, any thoughts? --Andrew From szabgab at gmail.com Mon Nov 22 00:06:07 2010 From: szabgab at gmail.com (Gabor Szabo) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:06:07 +0200 Subject: [LA.pm] LA.pm @ SCaLE -- deadline Dec 13 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi, On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Andrew Grangaard wrote: > Hi Mongers! > > The Southern California Linux Expo is almost upon us. ?The deadline > for proposals is Dec 13. > > Who would like to help us maintain a perl presence amongst the wider > open source community? ?Tommy, David Williams and myself volunteered > (during the past LA.pm) to "do something or man a booth." ?Who wants > to join us? ?Any ideas what we should put in our proposal to SCaLE? Andrew, thanks for moving this forward. > > Gabor, any thoughts? too much :) I think it would be great to submit a few talks - the CFP and the submission form is here https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale9x/ There is also a possibility to invite a few Perl speakers from a distance. The objective of the Perl Ecosystem Group ( http://perl-ecosystem.org/ ) is to help the Perl presence at such events. So we will try to finance the trip for 1-2 speakers. In order to make it easier to decide who to invite, please send me private e-mail with names of people you'd like to see there. Regarding the Perl or LA.pm booth at SCALE, I think someone needs to volunteer to be the main contact person. I have not found the "call for stand" or anything similar on their web site. so the contact person will need to ask the organizers what do they need. At other events we usually say that we would like to have a booth where we can represent Perl and a number of Perl based projects. Then we list some projects such as Catalyst, Dancer, WebGUI, Bricolage, Moose, Rakudo etc. Depending on who we think will be able to be present. We have plenty of resources collected on the TPF wiki https://www.socialtext.net/perl5/index.cgi?events and there is a separate page where we can collect information about SCALE: https://www.socialtext.net/perl5/index.cgi?events_2011_scale9x So will be the main coordinator? regards Gabor http://szabgab.com/ From granny+lapm at gmail.com Mon Nov 29 07:30:12 2010 From: granny+lapm at gmail.com (Andrew Grangaard) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 07:30:12 -0800 Subject: [LA.pm] O'Reilly User Group: la.pm membership and deals. Fwd: UG News: *Free to Choose* Deal/Day - Save 60% on ALL Ebooks & Videos! Message-ID: <4CF3C704.4070401@gmail.com> Hello Mongers, I recently signed up la.pm into the O'Reilly User Group program [1]. I thought it might come in handy for the discount to O'reilly conferences and tutorials, we also get a group discount on books (40% on print, 50% on ebooks) via code "DSUG"[2]. 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